Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-02-01 Thread Fischlin Andreas
On 29/Jan/2010, at 13:05 , Daniele Avitabile wrote: One of the things that I hate the most about the iPad is that Apple's strategy seems to divert developer's enthusiasm and resources towards iPhone OS and far away from proper operating systems (Mac OS X). Underneath it is OS X, don't

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-29 Thread Daniele Avitabile
One of the things that I hate the most about the iPad is that Apple's strategy seems to divert developer's enthusiasm and resources towards iPhone OS and far away from proper operating systems (Mac OS X). And here we are... I have seen already this happening with other applications. Intaglio,

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-29 Thread Jason Davies
On 29 Jan 2010, at 12:05, Daniele Avitabile wrote: One of the things that I hate the most about the iPad is that Apple's strategy seems to divert developer's enthusiasm and resources towards iPhone OS and far away from proper operating systems (Mac OS X). on the other hand, it's making

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread Simon Spiegel
On 28.01.2010, at 04:48, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:09 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down margin notes by hand rather than

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread Christiaan Hofman
On Jan 28, 2010, at 9:53, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 28.01.2010, at 04:48, Adam R. Maxwell wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:09 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread Simon Spiegel
On 28.01.2010, at 11:34, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 9:53, Simon Spiegel wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down margin notes by hand rather

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread Christiaan Hofman
On Jan 28, 2010, at 11:43, Simon Spiegel wrote: On 28.01.2010, at 11:34, Christiaan Hofman wrote: On Jan 28, 2010, at 9:53, Simon Spiegel wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread M. Tamer Özsu
As much as I like and heavily use bibdesk, for me the critical application to have on the iPad is a pdf manager that allows handwriting annotation of pdf files -- something like the PDF Annotator on windows tablets (http://ograhl.com/en/pdfannotator/). If there is the integration with bibtex,

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread Simon Spiegel
On 28.01.2010, at 12:25, Christiaan Hofman wrote: I think it's clear that what one wants (and should want) is something very different from BibDesk or Skim. BibDesk is citation manager, to help with organizing bibtex, while this is about reading, annotating, and organizing PDFs. So it's

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread Jason Davies
On 28 Jan 2010, at 12:07, Simon Spiegel wrote: I'm not saying that a complete duplication is needed or even sensible for the iPad, but I certainly can of think of scenarios where it would make sense to edit your bibliographic data on your iPad. presumably one can work with the raw text

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-28 Thread JiHO
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 12:25, Christiaan Hofman cmhof...@gmail.com wrote: I am pretty sure that a combo of citation management, PDF management, PDF viewing, and PDF annotating is really not possible on a device like iPad (and certainly not iPhone). We came to the conclusion that this was not

[Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread James Owen
I just wanted to open discussion on how to use the new iPad as a paper browser/displayer. I can imagine sitting on a couch reading and annotating papers with annotations included into the linked file c.f. Skim notes, or showing papers to other people, perhaps displaying them on a big screen,

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Jonas Zimmermann
On 28 Jan 2010, at 01:11, James Owen wrote: I just wanted to open discussion on how to use the new iPad as a paper browser/displayer. I can imagine sitting on a couch reading and annotating papers with annotations included into the linked file c.f. Skim notes, or showing papers to other

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread David Nicholls
Beat me to it! The iPad would be a splendid base for (an integrated?) Bibdesk and Skim. There's a iPhone app called GoodReader, which manages PDFs quite nicely, and that will work on the iPad, but you can't annotate and the indexing is non-existent. But you can see the files. DN James Owen

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread M. Tamer Özsu
This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down margin notes by hand rather than typing on a window. Then the integration of this pdf previewer/annotator and bibdesk would be great. Some

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:09 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down margin notes by hand rather than typing on a window. Then the integration of this pdf

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread James Owen
On Thursday, January 28, 2010, at 04:48AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 7:09 PM, M. Tamer Özsu wrote: This is an interesting discussion. For me the most critical requirement is to have an annotation application that uses ink. I need to be able to jot down

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Adam R. Maxwell
On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:09 PM, James Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 28, 2010, at 04:48AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: My guess is that the iPad would basically require a new application; BibDesk is heavily oriented and optimized for usage on a laptop or desktop system.

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread James Owen
BTW, if BibDesk had its own PDF viewer, would it be possible to make use of the hyperlinks for citations which are present in many PDFs? If one of these links is clicked, I think it opens a journal webpage, but could it be made to search for that hyperlink within the BibDesk library

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Alex Montgomery-Amo
I think that it would be more like Skim than BibDesk, or rather that BibDesk would be like iTunes to a Skim-on-iPad, synchronizing (perhaps a subset of) PDFs to the iPad, with reading (but maybe not writing) of metadata, but with full annotation and highlighting capabilities. The advantage here

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Niels Kobschaetzki
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:32 AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 27, 2010, at 9:09 PM, James Owen wrote: On Thursday, January 28, 2010, at 04:48AM, Adam R. Maxwell amaxw...@mac.com wrote: My guess is that the iPad would basically require a new application; BibDesk is

Re: [Bibdesk-users] BibDesk for iPad?

2010-01-27 Thread Alan Schmitt
On Thu, Jan 28, 2010 at 6:55 AM, Alex Montgomery-Amo a...@me.com wrote: We did a Kindle DX trial at my institution; you could see the potential for something that had real power like the iPad, but it wasn't quite there. The killer app (as far as education goes) for the iPad would be a full