Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-15 Thread Nicholas Larsen
Did anyone suggest adding any known ligand? If your protein happens to bind some compound/peptide/DNA/RNA/whatever, including that other partner could dramatically change it's solution properties and be an easy fix for your handling/formulation issues. Good luck! On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 6:33 AM,

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-15 Thread Kevin Jin
Hi Chris, In your Ni-NTA buffer, the total [Na+] could be greater than 530mM after titration. Likely, your protein likes higher concentration salt for surface charge stabilization. Adding Glycerol may further modify the charge distribution and make the protein happy in the solution. For further

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-14 Thread Chun Luo
HEPES pH 7.5, 10% glycerol) works. It should work well with crystallization. Cheers, Chun From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Chris Fage Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 3:33 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-14 Thread Zhang, Yuzhu
To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice Dear All, Thank you for the many suggestions. After sending my first message to the BB, I tried exchanging the sample into buffer containing 5 mM EDTA and also into buffer at pH 9.0 (using BICINE). Neither

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-14 Thread Chris Fage
Dear All, Thank you for the many suggestions. After sending my first message to the BB, I tried exchanging the sample into buffer containing 5 mM EDTA and also into buffer at pH 9.0 (using BICINE). Neither of these appear to have helped the instability--precipitation still occurred within ~1 min

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-14 Thread Vicky Tsirkone
Dear all, I will give my advice once again and hopefully you will discuss on it the next 2 days :P Chris might be worth trying a 2ndary or 3ary structure prediction tool to ensure that you do not have f.i. flexible ends. Disordered regions may lead to this kind of issues, as well. Personally I

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-14 Thread Mark J van Raaij
I'd try varying the pH independent of the theoretical pI, sometimes the real pI is very different. (I've worked on a protein with theoretical pI 9.2, real pI determined by iso-electric focussing 7.8). I'd also try limited proteolysis on the milky sample and see if you can solubilise it while a

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-14 Thread Debanu Das
Hi, I was in Sung-Hou Kim's group when this work below was performed and published and I also tried it out on many occasions. Elegant piece of work and certainly worth trying. Aside from the suggestions of trying different pH and related optimum solubility screening and if higher salt and

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein rapidly precipitates when off ice

2017-07-13 Thread Briggs, David C
Hi Chris, What is the theoretical pI of your protein? If it is around pH 7.5, you might try gel filtering your protein into a different buffer/pH combination. Try changing by at least 1 pH unit in either direction. If the pI isn't a problem, then you might try try solubility screening as