Re: [CentOS] Stupid C7 firewall question

2018-10-25 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 24, 2018, at 8:06 PM, Joel Freeman wrote: > > Is there any reason to use Firewalld over IPTables? Lots: https://firewalld.org/ > I'm incredibly new to Linux administration Given that, which would you rather type: $ sudo firewall-cmd --add-service=ftp or whatever that does under

Re: [CentOS] No searchable archives for this mailing list?

2018-10-19 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 19, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > I can't seem to find a way to search the archives of this list Here’s one: https://www.mail-archive.com/centos@centos.org/ Alternately, use the “site:” feature of your search engine to restrict it to the web archives of this list:

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 17, 2018, at 6:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > I’d rather spend time advocating for and taking advantage of systemd’s > features than complaining about its weaknesses. > > (Automatic service restarts saved me a lot of work just a few weeks ago!) Today’s software project i

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-19 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 19, 2018, at 5:07 AM, Simon Matter wrote: > > - the upgrade path from EL6 to EL7 is completely broken. Under what conditions would you actually use it? As we can see from the repeated attempts to get a reliable in-place upgrade process working, the community doesn’t seem to have much

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 18, 2018, at 7:35 PM, Warren Young wrote: > > It is certainly not a lot of work Typo: remove “not”. Running your own Linux distro is a *lot* of work. Just ask our benefactors here! Also, I should clarify that I’m not calling for action for my own benefit. I’m a happy CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-18 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 18, 2018, at 6:52 PM, Japheth Cleaver wrote: > > Conoboy, on the other hand, takes great pains during the speech to describe a > much more fluid and complex interaction between CentOS and its upstream, and > puts forth CentOS as a mechanism (perhaps the best mechanism) for the winder >

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-18 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 18, 2018, at 9:41 AM, mark wrote: > On 10/17/18 7:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: >>> Benno Rice is right: Lennart Poettering gets stuff done. > > Because he's funded. There are plenty of people with jobs that don’t get stuff done. > I strongly suspect that a lot of that

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-17 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 17, 2018, at 3:28 PM, Mark Rousell wrote: > > On 17/10/2018 20:03, Warren Young wrote: >> On Oct 17, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Mark Rousell >> wrote: >>> launchd is not being forced on them as systemd is in practice >> Try doing without launchd on macOS. >

Re: [CentOS] What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?

2018-10-17 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 17, 2018, at 10:03 AM, Mark Rousell wrote: > > launchd is not being forced on them as systemd is in practice Try doing without launchd on macOS. If you think that’s irrelevant, count the number of MacBooks at the next FreeBSD conference you attend. For an init system to gain

Re: [CentOS] mount points @install time

2018-10-09 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 9, 2018, at 6:42 AM, lejeczek via CentOS wrote: > > is there a way to add custom mount points at installation point? Yes: tell the installer that you want to do manual partitioning. Then you can create whatever partitioning scheme you like. > And if there is would you say /usr

Re: [CentOS] "WARNING: fdisk GPT support is currently new"

2018-10-07 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 7, 2018, at 4:49 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > * use traditional fdisk with DOS-MBR style partitioning on systems that > supported it Unless you only need 4 or fewer partitions and are using 2TB or smaller disks, I can’t see any good reason to use MBR on desktop, laptop, or server

Re: [CentOS] "WARNING: fdisk GPT support is currently new"

2018-10-07 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 7, 2018, at 4:09 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > How "experimental" > (e. g. prone to blow up in my face) is fdisk really? So far, I've only > used it for MBR-style partitioning. I have no idea. In fact, before your post, I had no idea fdisk even had GPT awareness. I’m replying because

Re: [CentOS] Seagate - experience/opinion on vendor?

2018-09-27 Thread Warren Young
On Sep 27, 2018, at 3:40 AM, lejeczek via CentOS wrote: > > And when they do release new software(which firmware is) then, they must have > a very good reason(which sometimes they do not say, but often than not they > do say) to do that. You’re assuming that their good reason is *your* good

Re: [CentOS] OT: Linux recommendations for old Pentium PC

2018-09-03 Thread Warren Young
On Sep 3, 2018, at 2:30 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > ...Pentium M processor...tiny fan...assumed power consumption would be low. You could well be right, but I’m a fan of taking measurements over guessing. :) If you were in the US, I’d recommend either of these from personal testing:

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-09-01 Thread Warren Young
On Sep 1, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: > >> Am 01.09.2018 um 12:51 schrieb Pete Biggs : >> >> That was until LetsEncrypt comes along - it has the backing of some big >> names and *IS* an effective business model for small and private >> customers. > > What *is* the business model

Re: [CentOS] Certificates

2018-08-31 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 31, 2018, at 4:42 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > [Let’s Encrypt] is designed for getting web servers quickly into TLS Yes. > ...and then to a more stable provider. [citation wanted] > If your content is short information, your contacts will never notice that > you go to a new cert

Re: [CentOS] OT: Linux recommendations for old Pentium PC

2018-08-31 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 31, 2018, at 8:29 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote: > > I've got a very small footprint rack server with a 4TB drive in that I wish > to > be a Bacula storeage device. However, it's got an old board / processor in > it. You’re giving two very mixed signals here. “Old Pentium,” as someone

Re: [CentOS] OpenLDAP support in future versions of CentOS

2018-08-28 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 28, 2018, at 9:51 AM, Alicia Smith wrote: > > Red Hat and Suse announced they are no longer supporting OpenLDAP in future > releases. > https://www.ostechnix.com/redhat-and-suse-announced-to- > withdraw-support-for-openldap/ I only see a link to the SuSE announcement from that article.

Re: [CentOS] selinux question

2018-08-21 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 21, 2018, at 4:34 PM, Nataraj wrote: > > On 08/21/2018 02:20 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> On Aug 21, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Nataraj wrote: >>> I have a web application which uses sudo to invoke python scripts as the >>> user under which the application runs (NO r

Re: [CentOS] selinux question

2018-08-21 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 21, 2018, at 1:27 PM, Nataraj wrote: > > I have a web application which uses sudo to invoke python scripts as the > user under which the application runs (NO root access). Why is the web app not running with that user’s permissions in the first place? If your answer is that it needs

Re: [CentOS] rsync versioning problem

2018-08-03 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 3, 2018, at 10:17 AM, Warren Young wrote: > > It’s possible this behavior changed since I last looked at it. It looks like the rsync version shipping with CentOS 7 will actually complain if multiple target directory levels are missing. With only ~/tmp existing on the target m

Re: [CentOS] rsync versioning problem

2018-08-03 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 3, 2018, at 9:59 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > >> You haven’t needed "-e ssh” since rsync 2.6.0, which made it the default. >> It was released in 2004. > > How do I specify -p and -l that I cut out of my example? Add it to ~/.ssh/config: Host nevia.htt-consult.com Port

Re: [CentOS] rsync versioning problem

2018-08-03 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 3, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I seem to have an rsync versioning problem. Have you ruled out the other causes of that error? For instance: https://askubuntu.com/a/716911 > And researching this it comes down to a versioning issue. That seems rather unlikely for

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory How do you know that? Give a specific symptom. > Running "free -h" gives me this: > totalusedfree shared buff/cache > available > Mem:

Re: [CentOS] two 2-node clusters or one 4-node cluster?

2018-07-07 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 7, 2018, at 7:54 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > > I have yet to dig sufficiently deep in Warren considerations, but I will do > it, I promise! Very interesting arguments Until then, I offer this tl;dr: A 4-member cluster has distinct advantages over a 2x2 cluster of the same machines

Re: [CentOS] two 2-node clusters or one 4-node cluster?

2018-07-06 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 5, 2018, at 1:07 PM, Alexander Dalloz wrote: > > classical cluster setups are so 2000s. Outdated by modern infrastructure > concepts you see implemented in Kubernetes, OpenShift or cloud solutions in > general. It's commonly summarized in the phrase "pets versus cattle". You > don't

Re: [CentOS] two 2-node clusters or one 4-node cluster?

2018-07-06 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:10 AM, Digimer wrote: > > There is no effective benefit to 3+ nodes That depends on your requirements and definition of terms. For one very useful (and thus popular) definition of “success” in distributed computing, you need at least four nodes, and that only allows you

Re: [CentOS] git public web frontends

2018-06-07 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 6, 2018, at 4:06 AM, Alice Wonder wrote: > > I'm not anti-microsoft but I'm worried they will make changes that I don't > like (e.g. requiring ms account, changing billing, etc.) so I figured better > take control now. What had you using GitHub in the first place, then? Is it just the

Re: [CentOS] [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS Linux 7 (1804) on x86_64 aarch64 i386 ppc64 ppc64le

2018-05-10 Thread Warren Young
On May 10, 2018, at 1:33 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: > > I am pleased to announce the general availability of CentOS Linux 7 > (1804) for across all architectures. I’ve checked about a dozen of the mirrors, and see no *.torrent files yet. Any idea how long they’ll take to

Re: [CentOS] Samba HOWTO wiki bug: chcon samba_share_t

2018-05-05 Thread Warren Young
On May 5, 2018, at 12:04 AM, Gordon Messmer <gordon.mess...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 05/04/2018 04:05 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> On May 4, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Louis Lagendijk <lo...@fazant.net> wrote: >>> The comment is correct: chcon will not survive a relabel. Yo

Re: [CentOS] Samba HOWTO wiki bug: chcon samba_share_t

2018-05-04 Thread Warren Young
On May 4, 2018, at 6:35 PM, Earl A Ramirez wrote: > > You can check the labels using seinfo -t, below is what I had for samba I’m away from work now, so I can’t check it at the moment, but if that explained the problem, wouldn’t my chcon command also have failed?

Re: [CentOS] Samba HOWTO wiki bug: chcon samba_share_t

2018-05-04 Thread Warren Young
On May 4, 2018, at 5:13 PM, Gordon Messmer <gordon.mess...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On 05/04/2018 12:03 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> …there is a command down in section 2 that gives an error here on CentOS 7: >> >> $ sudo semanage fcontext –at samba_share_t /pat

Re: [CentOS] Samba HOWTO wiki bug: chcon samba_share_t

2018-05-04 Thread Warren Young
On May 4, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: > > The comment is correct: chcon will not survive a relabel. You need to > update the database first (semanage fcontext) and then let a relabel > apply the new context. Alright, then why do I get that error when I give the

Re: [CentOS] Samba HOWTO wiki bug: chcon samba_share_t

2018-05-04 Thread Warren Young
On May 4, 2018, at 3:03 PM, Akemi Yagi <amy...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 12:03 PM, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote: >> >>$ sudo chcon -R -t samba_share_t /path/to/share > > Updated the page as suggested. Thanks.

[CentOS] Samba HOWTO wiki bug: chcon samba_share_t

2018-05-04 Thread Warren Young
In this wiki article: https://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/SetUpSamba …there is a command down in section 2 that gives an error here on CentOS 7: $ sudo semanage fcontext –at samba_share_t /path/to/share …noise noise noise… semanage: error: unrecognized arguments: samba_share_t

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 1708 won't boot after grub2 update

2018-02-20 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 19, 2018, at 5:00 AM, Sorin Srbu wrote: > > This is the third fresh install of CentOS 7 1708 the last two months that > won't boot after a regular "yum update" just after the fresh install has > finished. Define “won’t boot”. Does it stop: 1. Before the GRUB2

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 1708 won't boot after grub2 update

2018-02-20 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 19, 2018, at 6:36 PM, Steven Tardy wrote: > > BTW, anyone have a good method for finding driver for a given > disk(/dev/sdX)? Use this script: https://stackoverflow.com/a/42382011 ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Percentage of CentOS coded in each language

2018-02-15 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 15, 2018, at 2:14 PM, Blake Hudson wrote: > > Anyone have any suggestions for determining this info? Unpack all of the sources somewhere, then run SLOCCount on the tree: https://www.dwheeler.com/sloccount/ ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] lshw in centos 7 withdrawn

2018-01-15 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 15, 2018, at 9:10 AM, david wrote: > > - SATA3 is faster than USB3 (I think) Almost always, yes. > But sometimes one has no choice. Only if you have no PCI slots, and hence can’t put a better interface into the system. > The Mac pro may look cute in its black

Re: [CentOS] lshw in centos 7 withdrawn

2018-01-15 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 15, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote: > > Whenever I have a machine with an unkillable userspace program, I run dtrace Sorry, got my OS wires crossed: I mean dmesg. Though dtrace could help, too, if you’ve managed to build that for CentOS; I hear it

Re: [CentOS] lshw in centos 7 withdrawn

2018-01-15 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 12, 2018, at 3:18 PM, david wrote: > > Or is it related to the annoying spin-down and spin-up delay of external USB > disks. More likely, crap hardware, which is awfully hard to avoid in USB-land. Just the other day, I traced a machine that failed to reboot to an

Re: [CentOS] CVE-2017-5715, CVE-2017-5753 and CVE-2017-5754

2018-01-04 Thread Warren Young
On Jan 4, 2018, at 12:18 PM, Walter H. wrote: > > will there be updates for these CVEs for CentOS 6? Red Hat hasn’t released them all yet. Quoting Christopher Robinson in the thread for this here: https://access.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2018:0007 "We will be

Re: [CentOS] Accessing crashed disk

2017-12-14 Thread Warren Young
On Dec 13, 2017, at 5:15 PM, J Martin Rushton wrote: > > # dd if=/dev/sdc of=/home/dd-copy-of-sdc Better, use ddrescue: https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/ dd will do unfortunate things like quit early on I/O errors, even if later blocks would read just

Re: [CentOS] Gulliver

2017-10-31 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > > If this is an application that you've developed in-house, you should be using > htonl() to convert your 32-bit values to network byte order …or its superset, XDR [1] …or use a text format (XML, JSON, YAML, SQL,

Re: [CentOS] [OT] Bash help

2017-10-27 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 26, 2017, at 10:37 AM, Gordon Messmer <gordon.mess...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:47 AM, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote: >> >> CentOS 5 is definitely out, as that ships Bash 3, which lacks this feature. > > Nonsense.

Re: [CentOS] [OT] Bash help

2017-10-25 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > An associative array was the first thing I thought of, then realized BASH > doesn't do those. But it does: in Bash 4, only. If you mean you must still use Bash 3 in places, then yeah, you’ve got a problem… one

Re: [CentOS] [OT] Bash help

2017-10-25 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 25, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: > > Although "not my question", thanks, I learned a lot about array processing > from your example. Yeah, it’s amazing how many obscure corners of the Bash language must be tapped to solve such a simple problem. I

Re: [CentOS] [OT] Bash help

2017-10-25 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 25, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > I have a file with two columns 'email' and 'total' like this: > > m...@example.com 20 > m...@example.com 40 > y...@domain.com 100 > y...@domain.com 30 > > I need to get the total number of messages for each email

Re: [CentOS] Apache 2.2 EOL - what is Red Hat's story for RHEL6?

2017-09-12 Thread Warren Young
On Sep 12, 2017, at 1:29 PM, Alan McKay wrote: > > I have been googling for a few weeks now and not finding anything. > Apache 2.2 is EOL at the end of this year. > > Has Red Hat announced a plan yet on what they are doing in RHEL6? > > I am assuming they will up-version

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 11, 2017, at 1:07 PM, Robert Nichols wrote: >> Yeah he'd want to do an fsck -f and see if repairs are madestem. > > fsck checks filesystem metadata, not the content of files. Chris might have been thinking of fsck -c or -k, which do various sorts of

Re: [CentOS] Btrfs going forward, was: Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 11, 2017, at 12:39 PM, hw <h...@gc-24.de> wrote: > > Warren Young wrote: > >> [...] >>>> What do they suggest as a replacement? >> >> Stratis: https://stratis-storage.github.io/StratisSoftwareDesign.pdf > > Can I use that now? As I

Re: [CentOS] Btrfs going forward, was: Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:52 AM, hw wrote: > > Software RAID with mdadm is a bad idea because > it comes with quite some performance loss. That sounds like outdated information, from the time before CPUs were fast enough to do parity RAID calculations with insignificant overhead.

Re: [CentOS] Btrfs going forward, was: Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-11 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 11, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 5:41 AM, hw wrote: >> That´s one thing I´ve been wondering about: When using btrfs RAID, do you >> need to somehow monitor the disks to see if one has failed? > > Yes. > >

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:17 PM, John R Pierce <pie...@hogranch.com> wrote: > > On 8/10/2017 1:12 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> You want those pages to get swapped out quickly so that the precious RAM can >> be used more productively; by the buffer cache, if nothing else.

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2017, at 10:46 AM, mad.scientist.at.la...@tutanota.com wrote: > > is that because the drive is compressing the information? No. I believe by “probabilistic representation” the parent poster simply means that in any given data cell, you don’t have a hard “1” or “0”, you have some

Re: [CentOS] Errors on an SSD drive

2017-08-10 Thread Warren Young
On Aug 10, 2017, at 2:07 AM, John Hodrien wrote: > > For a well configured desktop that rarely needs to swap, I struggle to see the > load on the SSD as being significant, and yet obviously the performance of an > SSD would make it ideal for swap. I agree. It’s a bad

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-08-01 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 31, 2017, at 4:27 PM, Leroy Tennison wrote: > > some commands (or command options) are only supported on later releases, the > man pages don't say this. You only run into that problem when trying to use man pages from one system but then run commands on a very

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:28 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote: > > if you have found Debian commands, you're doing better than me. What are > they? I’m not aware of a generic Debian-to-CentOS command translation dictionary. You’ll have to be specific about the commands you’re

Re: [CentOS] claiming unsused space back

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 31, 2017, at 7:50 AM, Fred Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 08:28:49AM -0500, Leroy Tennison wrote: >> dd to totally fill the partition > > I may be blind, but I don't seehow that technique can "reclaim" any space. In addition to the OP’s qemu

Re: [CentOS] Fedora bugs and EOL [was Re: CentOS users: please try and provide feedback on Fedora] Boltron

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 28, 2017, at 11:56 AM, hw wrote: > > Matthew Miller wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 06:13:42PM +0200, hw wrote: >>> What?s the point of doing this with Fedora? It?s not like bugs >>> were fixed before Fedora is EOL and all reports are forgotten. >> >> Many bugs are

Re: [CentOS] Using GIMP on Centos-7, problem

2017-07-31 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 30, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Fred Smith wrote: > > I find the installation instructions (for the binary tarball) are > minimal Your link to the binary tarball is also minimal, to the point of being nonexistent. :) > and whatever I do, it doesn't seem to appear

Re: [CentOS] Physically moving a mail server vs. cached DNS

2017-07-03 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 1, 2017, at 3:00 AM, Pete Biggs wrote: > >> In your experience, what's the "longest" a DNS cache is configured to >> keep outdated information? A day? A week? A month? Longer? >> > That is controlled by the TTL (time to live) entry. …which is often under your control

Re: [CentOS] Markdown editor for CentOS 7?

2017-06-16 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 16, 2017, at 3:27 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > For the time being, I'm using my good old Vim editor for writing it. I > turned off syntax highlighting, since this produces random results with > Markdown. I write Markdown in Vim on CentOS 7 with the stock Markdown

Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-09 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 9, 2017, at 10:08 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Jun 2017, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: > >> Maybe we need another mailing list, like alt.religion.editors*, we could >> have alt.religion.systemd >> >> mark >> >> * vi, not emacs!

Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-07 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 7, 2017, at 2:24 PM, Always Learning wrote: > > What is the advantage of patches over a virgin version that can be > subsequently patched ? Doing the change as a patch to the upstream RPM means that, most of the time, you can just apply your patch again whenever the

Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-07 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 7, 2017, at 1:02 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > every RPM that interacts with systemd will need to be 'fixed' to do it the > old way, with init.d scripts. repositories like postgres, EPEL, etc won't > work, either, as their C7 packaged daemons are all configured to

Re: [CentOS] C7, systemd, say what?!

2017-06-07 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 7, 2017, at 9:31 AM, Mark Haney wrote: > > On 06/07/2017 11:24 AM, James Hogarth wrote: >> >> Mark stop with the flame baiting please. >> >> This is nothing systemd specific - and keep in mind /var/tmp is a >> persistent temp area unlike /tmp which as it's tmpfs

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-05 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 3, 2017, at 4:13 AM, hw wrote: > > I´m using CGI as a simple > means for the users to use the programs...There are less than 10 users. If we’re talking less than one full page hit per second, then it doesn’t much matter what technology you use. You won’t be able to tell

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-06-02 Thread Warren Young
On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:05 AM, hw <h...@gc-24.de> wrote: > > Warren Young wrote: >> >> There are various options. We use mod_fcgid + Plack here. > I need to look into that when I have time. I wonder if it wouldn’t have been faster to just backport the app to

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 1:58 PM, hw wrote: > > It seems that lighttpd uses the perl version that is assigned in > the configuration This is one of the advantages of Plack vs mod_perl, by the way: decoupling the Perl version from the web server version. > while ignoring the

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 9:38 AM, hw <h...@gc-24.de> wrote: > > Warren Young schrieb: >> On May 24, 2017, at 7:05 AM, hw <h...@gc-24.de> wrote: >>> apache uses mod_perl >> >> mod_perl was dropped from Apache in 2.4, and Red Hat followed suit w

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 9:37 AM, Tate Belden wrote: > > The time transmitted from WWV is not Mountain Time. I should have split the paragraph, because I didn’t mean to imply that that was the case. My point in mentioning the transmission location is to show that it’s probably a

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Chris Adams <li...@cmadams.net> wrote: > > Once upon a time, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> said: >> a. It’s transmitting from a fixed location in a time zone you probably >> aren’t in — US Mountain — being the least populous of the

Re: [CentOS] System Time Source

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Chris Olson wrote: > > One of our STEM interns recently observed that there are > inexpensive clocks that sync via radio to standard time > services. There are two major types: 1. WWVB and its equivalents in other countries:

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 7:05 AM, hw wrote: > apache uses mod_perl mod_perl was dropped from Apache in 2.4, and Red Hat followed suit with RHEL 7. > But there is a package 'rh-perl524-mod_perl’. That must be someone’s backport. As someone who migrated a mod_perl based app off of

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-24 Thread Warren Young
On May 24, 2017, at 6:02 AM, hw <h...@gc-24.de> wrote: > > Warren Young schrieb: >> >> CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped Perl 5.8.8 from first >> release to last > > Living in the past seldwhen is a good idea. I don’t propose to teach you

Re: [CentOS] more recent perl version?

2017-05-23 Thread Warren Young
On May 23, 2017, at 10:44 AM, hw wrote: > > are there packages replacing the ancient perl version in > Centos 7 with a more recent one, like 5.24? Since when is Perl 5.16 “ancient?” It’s only 4 years old. CentOS 5 just left supported status, which shipped Perl 5.8.8 from

Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 selinux

2017-05-09 Thread Warren Young
On May 9, 2017, at 12:14 PM, Larry Martell wrote: > > If I make a change to /etc/sysconfig/selinux do I have to restart anything > for the change to take effect? Isn’t the correct answer “yes” for every single file under that directory? If it were otherwise, you’d have

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll - So Long, and Thanks for All the fish.

2017-04-24 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 24, 2017, at 7:53 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > James' point isn't the hardware cost, it's the people cost for retraining. Unless you’ve hired monkeys so that you must train them to do their tasks by rote, that is a soft cost, not a hard cost. If you’ve hired competent IT

Re: [CentOS] Need a bit of 'archeocomputing' help on CentOS 7.

2017-04-24 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 21, 2017, at 10:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > 1.) Run Red Hat Linux 5.2 (or similar vintage) on KVM on CentOS 7; For what it’s worth, I couldn’t get it working under a modern flavor of VMware, either. I find that telling because VMware tends to have the best driver

Re: [CentOS] What besides Postfix should not start until system time set?

2017-04-20 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:39 PM, Robert Moskowitz <r...@htt-consult.com> wrote: > > On 04/20/2017 05:16 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Robert Moskowitz <r...@htt-consult.com> wrote: >>> So I have learned that Postfix should delay until Chron

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll - So Long, and Thanks for All the fish.

2017-04-20 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 20, 2017, at 7:33 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > When a vendor ... fundamentally changes the way the administration > of an operating system is presented I’ve gotten the sense from this other part of the thread that the answer to my question, “What are you moving

Re: [CentOS] What besides Postfix should not start until system time set?

2017-04-20 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 20, 2017, at 3:00 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > So I have learned that Postfix should delay until Chronyd has moved the > system time from 0 to current. I think it’s more the case that CentOS is written with the assumption that you’re running it on a host with a

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll - So Long, and Thanks for All the fish.

2017-04-20 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 19, 2017, at 2:22 PM, Chris Murphy <li...@colorremedies.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 5:21 AM, James B. Byrne <byrn...@harte-lyne.ca> wrote: >> >> On Mon, April 17, 2017 17:13, Warren Young wrote: >> >>> Also, I’ll remind the l

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll - So Long, and Thanks for All the fish.

2017-04-17 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 15, 2017, at 12:19 AM, Anthony K wrote: > > Also, there's a lot of people moving to FreeBSD - but it appears that the > grass isn't greener there either as they are now trialling OpenRC. You appear to have misunderstood my post. First, TrueOS is not FreeBSD.

Re: [CentOS] OT: systemd Poll

2017-04-11 Thread Warren Young
On Apr 11, 2017, at 11:28 AM, Scott Robbins wrote: > > (though they're talking of trying OpenRC) Not just talking. TrueOS, neé PC-BSD, now runs on OpenRC. So let me tell you about how my recent TrueOS server upgrade broke virtually all of my services on the TrueOS

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-6.8 fsck report Maximal Count

2017-03-10 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 10, 2017, at 9:28 AM, Valeri Galtsev <galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > > On Fri, March 10, 2017 9:52 am, Warren Young wrote: >> On Mar 10, 2017, at 6:32 AM, James B. Byrne <byrn...@harte-lyne.ca> wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, March 9, 2017

Re: [CentOS] CentOS-6.8 fsck report Maximal Count

2017-03-10 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 10, 2017, at 6:32 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: > > On Thu, March 9, 2017 09:46, John Hodrien wrote: >> >> fsck's not good at finding disk errors, it finds filesystem errors. > > If not fsck then what? badblocks(8). ___

Re: [CentOS] Solved Re: imaging a drive with dd

2017-03-03 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 3, 2017, at 10:49 AM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On 03/02/2017 11:57 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> The following worked: >> >> # dd if=/dev/sdb of=cubietruck.img bs=512 count=6268927 >> >> 6268927+0 records in >> 6268927+0 records out >> 3209690624 bytes (3.2 GB, 3.0 GiB)

Re: [CentOS] imaging a drive with dd

2017-03-02 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 2, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz <r...@htt-consult.com> wrote: > > On 03/02/2017 08:53 PM, Warren Young wrote: >> Why reinvent the wheel? > > This is Centos7-armv7. Not all the tools are there. btrfs and LVM2 appear to be built: https://armv7.dev.c

Re: [CentOS] imaging a drive with dd

2017-03-02 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 2, 2017, at 6:53 PM, Warren Young <war...@etr-usa.com> wrote: > > Why reinvent the wheel? Oh, I forgot to say, LVM2, ZFS, and btrfs snapshots don’t image the *entire* drive including slack space. They set a copy-on-write point which is near-instantaneous, so that

Re: [CentOS] imaging a drive with dd

2017-03-02 Thread Warren Young
On Mar 2, 2017, at 6:36 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > > I want to image the drive at various 'checkpoints' so I can go back and redo > from a particular point… > what dd params work? > > dd if=/dev/sdb of=os.img bs=1M count=3210 That looks plausible. (I haven’t verified

Re: [CentOS] Checksums for git repo content?

2017-02-23 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 23, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Alice Wonder wrote: > > I think the issue is that you not only have to create a trojan file that > matches the same hash, but you have to create a trojan file that matches the > same hash and doesn't break compiling. No, that’s the easy bit.

Re: [CentOS] Checksums for git repo content?

2017-02-23 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 23, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: > > On 02/09/2017 03:12 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> The patch files are in git as text files, right? Why would you need >> checksums of those? That is the purpose of git, right? >> > Not to stir up a hornets' nest, but how does

Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-09 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 9, 2017, at 2:39 PM, Leonard den Ottolander <leon...@den.ottolander.nl> wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 14:22 -0700, Warren Young wrote: >> There are two serious problems with this argument: >> >> 1. Give me a scenario where this attacker can execute *only

Re: [CentOS] Serious attack vector on pkcheck ignored by Red Hat

2017-02-09 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 9, 2017, at 2:03 PM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 13:40 -0800, Gordon Messmer wrote: >> Escalation *requires* attacking a program in a security context other >> than your own. > > Not necessarily. Suppose the adversary is aware of a

Re: [CentOS] Checksums for git repo content?

2017-02-09 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 9, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Leonard den Ottolander wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-02-09 at 14:12 -0600, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> The patch files are in git as text files, right? Why would you need >> checksums of those? That is the purpose of git, right? > > Checksums are

Re: [CentOS] bash on ubuntu (centos) on windows

2016-12-08 Thread Warren Young
On Dec 8, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Peter wrote: > > Ubuntu on Windows is *not* Linux. No, but it does implement the kernel syscall interface and an ELF loader. Therefore, there is no reason, in principle, why you could not build a CentOS userland on top of the Windows

Re: [CentOS] Off-Topic: Travel Router and Firewall

2016-11-23 Thread Warren Young
On Nov 23, 2016, at 3:40 PM, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 11/23/2016 2:24 PM, Leon Fauster wrote: >> DIY based onhttp://www.pcengines.ch/ hardware ... > > ...tis not suitable for USB power (5V, up to 2.5 amp) I think you mean 2.5 *watts* not amps. USB 2.0 and below are

Re: [CentOS] Announcement: new yum repos

2016-10-21 Thread Warren Young
On Oct 21, 2016, at 1:49 PM, Richard Grainger wrote: > > ergel (Extra Ruby Gems for Enterprise Linux) You should call it RIGEL: Ruby Imported Gems for Enterprise Linux. Much space. So geek. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rigel > epmel (Extra Perl Modules for

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