OT Religion (was RE: Terrorism)

2001-09-12 Thread Josh R
, 11 Sep 2001 13:30:15 -0700 From: Brian Fox [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Terrorism Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you look throughout history you will see that more atrocities have been perpetrated in the name of God than for any other reason. Who coined this statement? It's been

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2001-09-11 Thread Scott Van Vliet
God rest their souls. - SVV -Original Message- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Terrorism Our thoughts and our prayers are with the victims and the rescue workers in this tragedy. Also for our armed forces who

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2001-09-11 Thread admin
Amen - Original Message - From: Scott Van Vliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: RE: Terrorism God rest their souls. - SVV -Original Message- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday

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2001-09-11 Thread Lee Fuller
God help the maniac cowards that are the cause of this. All I would say to them at this point is.. Good luck. - Lee -Original Message- From: Scott Van Vliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism God

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2001-09-11 Thread Mahmut Basaran
Amen we all believe in same god. - Original Message - From: admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 7:48 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism Amen - Original Message - From: Scott Van Vliet [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED

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2001-09-11 Thread John Paitel
- From: Scott Van Vliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism God rest their souls. - SVV -Original Message- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:48 AM

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2001-09-11 Thread Kevin Langevin
-Original Message- From: Scott Van Vliet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 9:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism God rest their souls. - SVV -Original Message- From: Matt Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
. [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: John Paitel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 10:56:10 -0700 Subject: RE: Terrorism Anyone seen the reports that the Palestinians are dancing

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2001-09-11 Thread Noel Flatters
Anyone seen the reports that the Palestinians are dancing in the streets and passing out candy? What purpose do comments like this serve? the Palestinians Nice generalization of a group of people. I work in an office with palestinian co-workers and I can assure you that they are shocked

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2001-09-11 Thread Koo Pai Lao
Palestinians dancing in the streets? Yes, very sick. but remember, to them, we are terrorists too =) From: Kevin Langevin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Terrorism Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:07:20 -0400 Yup...disgusting. The US

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2001-09-11 Thread Sicular, Alexander
this forum politically charged. -alex -Original Message- From: John Paitel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism Anyone seen the reports that the Palestinians are dancing in the streets and passing out candy? John

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:07:20 -0400 Subject: RE: Terrorism Yup...disgusting. The US has some seriously negative sentiment towards it abroad. I was at a client's office earlier, two employees of which are military. One of them was on the phone with a woman whose husband

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2001-09-11 Thread Koo Pai Lao
come on, anyone with a brain and have been following news in the middle east knows who we are talking about. picky picky From: Noel Flatters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Terrorism Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:10:55 -0400 Anyone seen

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2001-09-11 Thread John Paitel
What purpose do comments like this serve? the Palestinians Nice generalization of a group of people. I work in an office with palestinian co-workers and I can assure you that they are shocked and dismayed about this tragedy. Hey, sorry if you take offense. The direct quotes from CNN, MSNBC

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2001-09-11 Thread Neil Clark
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2001-09-11 Thread Steve Aylor
: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:10 AM Subject: RE: Terrorism Anyone seen the reports that the Palestinians are dancing in the streets and passing out candy? What purpose do comments like this serve? the Palestinians Nice generalization of a group of people. I work in an office

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2001-09-11 Thread corrigan
I suppose you're not fanning anything? - Original Message - From: Noel Flatters [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:10 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism Anyone seen the reports that the Palestinians are dancing in the streets and passing out

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2001-09-11 Thread Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
. -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:18 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism If the Pittsburgh area plane was intended for the white house they picked a good place to put it down... FEMA is one site and was there quick

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2001-09-11 Thread Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
No, you said it right. Some people need to realize what is happeneing in the world and think before they comment (not you John). -Original Message- From: John Paitel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism What purpose do

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2001-09-11 Thread Ken Wilson
Certainly someone or a larger group of people were not actively doing their jobs. I'm certainly comforted to know someone here on the CF-Talk list knows how to stop a kamikaze terrorist with a death wish in control of an airliner. Have you passed your advice along to the Feds yet? :) Ken

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2001-09-11 Thread savan . thongvanh
i feel, as we all do, about todays happenings and wanted to keep quite but have to ask..., what is that supposed to mean? Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/11/2001 01:24:18 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Terrorism I think God

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2001-09-11 Thread Noel Flatters
:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism What purpose do comments like this serve? the Palestinians Nice generalization of a group of people. I work in an office with palestinian co-workers and I can assure you that they are shocked and dismayed about this tragedy. Hey, sorry if you

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2001-09-11 Thread Michael Dinowitz
This was a terrible tragedy and we should not lose site of that. We should not be jumping the gun to blame anyone. The poster was simply saying what a group of people were doing. He could have easily have posted a different news report. Please do not attack each other over this. Whoever is

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2001-09-11 Thread Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
WTG...Bravo...I concur -Original Message- From: Steve Aylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Terrorism Oh I see NOEL ... Our country ... AMERICA gets its ass blown to shit today . 1,000's of lives are wasted and you

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2001-09-11 Thread Neil Clark
Stop this now, please. dont let it get out of hand contemplate exactly what has happened. People have opinions, and unfortunately we have to accept them no matter what. ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these

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2001-09-11 Thread Clint Tredway
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Terrorism I think God was one of the main reasons why things like this happen ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
/NCCIM [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 13:41:50 -0500 Subject: RE: Terrorism I would hope the US would shoot down a plane if it had terrorists on board. No offense, but those people would be dead anyways. I'm not going to voice my political views, but I do believe that to sacrifice 100

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2001-09-11 Thread Steve Aylor
right ... and I just voiced mine! Fed Up, Steve Aylor - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:01 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism Stop this now, please. dont let it get out of hand contemplate exactly

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Noel Flatters [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:49:23 -0400 Subject: RE: Terrorism For sure, and I know that's what you meant. It just that I look around at some of my co-workers and see

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2001-09-11 Thread corrigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:01 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism Stop this now, please. dont let it get out of hand contemplate exactly what has happened. People have opinions, and unfortunately we have to accept them no matter what

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
and things] -Original Message- From: Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:10:59 -0400 Subject: RE: Terrorism What alot of people on other lists that I belong are saying is that our belief in God and our faith in an unseeable bieng is ludicrus and is whats causing all

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
in these times is lacking. [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 14:46:45 -0400 Subject: RE: Terrorism Certainly someone or a larger group

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2001-09-11 Thread Wjreichard
My heart go out to any of those in this community ... or everyone who have loved ones involved in this tragedy. Let's take a short moment of silence in honor of the victims of this horrific event. Bill In a message dated 9/11/01 3:31:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

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2001-09-11 Thread Jocelyn Isidro
Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 12:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism I believe the larger ongoing conflicts are religion based. so to close with god and religion references is a bad omen of sorts... is it this god or mine and what do you know about god

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2001-09-11 Thread Rey Bango
Nnnn, individual interpretation of God's word is one of the main reasons why things like this happen. Rey... - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:24 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism I think God was one

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2001-09-11 Thread Freddy
feel, as we all do, about todays happenings and wanted to keep quite but have to ask..., what is that supposed to mean? Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 09/11/2001 01:24:18 PM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Terrorism I think God

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2001-09-11 Thread Angel Stewart
And what is 'god's word but a written interpretation in the first place? Did 'God' write all that himself? Or did Men just like you and I write it all down, and Interpreted what they were seeing and hearing? -Gel -Original Message- From: Rey Bango [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

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2001-09-11 Thread John Paitel
My heart go out to any of those in this community ... or everyone who have loved ones involved in this tragedy. Let's take a short moment of silence in honor of the victims of this horrific event. Amen. Big kudos and thanks to all the emergency workers who have perished in rescuing other

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2001-09-11 Thread Jeffry Houser
At 04:02 PM 09/11/2001 -0400, you wrote: Nnnn, individual interpretation of God's word is one of the main reasons why things like this happen. Or what is perceived as God's word, rather. -- Jeffry Houser | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: Reboog711 | ICQ: 5246969 | Fax / Phone:

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2001-09-11 Thread Jason Green
that being sadii don't think God would tell you to kill peoplei believe it's one of his comandments From: Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Terrorism Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:11:19 -0500 And what is 'god's word

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2001-09-11 Thread John Paitel
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: RE: Terrorism I think God was one of the main reasons why things like this happen ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ

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2001-09-11 Thread Freedom
. The innocent are suffering because of misguided logic. Justice, in this instance today, should be swift and sure! Freedom - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism Yes in part

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2001-09-11 Thread Brian Fox
If you look throughout history you will see that more atrocities have been perpetrated in the name of God than for any other reason. Who coined this statement? It's been used, almost verbatim, so many times that it has to have some source. I'm really baffled by it. Did someone count up

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2001-09-11 Thread Nick McClure
- Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism Yes in part Brian I agree. The question though the military/intelligence/feds need to answer in such situations is what

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2001-09-11 Thread Paris Lundis
on those planes didn't. People on planes are sitting ducks. [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Freedom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:30:41 -0400 Subject: Re: Terrorism Truly think

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2001-09-11 Thread Angel Stewart
*snicker* HAHAHAHAAHHA! Carry a gun onboard an airplane to 'protect' it..HAHAHAH Oh that is soo ludicrous. You think the terrorists used guns to hijack the plane huh? Why? Because you've seen it on movies so many times before? hahahaha! What do you need to do to 'Hijack' a plane? Get to the

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2001-09-11 Thread Mahmut Basaran
PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism Agreed. One point that I heard on a radio streamcast is that there is a large segment of the Middle Eastern (And other) populations that refer to America as the Great Satan. To these people, the fact that you live in the US

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2001-09-11 Thread William J Wheatley
- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 3:46 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism My heart go out to any of those in this community ... or everyone who have loved ones involved in this tragedy. Let's take a short moment of silence

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2001-09-11 Thread John Paitel
Truly think about this. If even a few people on those planes could have been carrying a gun, none of this would have happened today. Yes, something would happen sometime, but not this today! The wrong thinking has directed the politically correct policies of this country for too long. The

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2001-09-11 Thread Freedom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 4:48 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism *snicker* HAHAHAHAAHHA! Carry a gun onboard an airplane to 'protect' it..HAHAHAH Oh that is soo ludicrous. You think the terrorists used guns to hijack the plane huh? Why

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2001-09-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Paris Lundis wrote: I agree 1000% ... An armed public is a good thing. Responsible civilians with firearms and trainging to use them with needed will twart most incidents and have been proven to reduce the likelihood of crime... I wouldn't directly call suicidal terrorists 'responsible

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2001-09-11 Thread Nick McClure
today or my brother just crossing the street. I'm so sad :( - Original Message - From: John Paitel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:22 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism Agreed. One point that I heard on a radio streamcast

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2001-09-11 Thread Freedom
! If the terrorists know that other passengers will be armed, they don't even try what happened today! Freedom - Original Message - From: John Paitel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:10 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism Truly think about this. If even

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2001-09-11 Thread Costas Piliotis
Right. Like people don't get mugged. Stores don't get robbed. Wow. The NRA has really brainwashed you. -Original Message- From: Freedom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:34 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Terrorism While I have my own opinions on weapons

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2001-09-11 Thread Howie Hamlin
OMG - you sound like Archie Bunker... - Original Message - From: Freedom [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:33 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism While I have my own opinions on weapons, what should and should not be allowed, etc

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2001-09-11 Thread Lee Fuller
for this issue. Please folks, take it somewhere else? Thanks... Lee -Original Message- From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 2:40 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Terrorism Right. Like people don't get mugged. Stores don't get

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2001-09-11 Thread Angel Stewart
Oh really? Is that your considered discussion on the matter 'freedom' ? hee hee hee. *smirk* I've attached the REST of what I said here as well :) But just in case you can't understand the points made, I'll summarise: 1) It would be too dangerous to allow the average citizen to carry a gun

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2001-09-11 Thread Gary P. McNeel, Jr.
-Original Message- From: Steve Aylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:32 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Terrorism Oh I see NOEL ... Our country ... AMERICA gets its ass blown to shit today . 1,000's of lives are wasted and you wanna get hung up on political

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2001-09-11 Thread Scott Van Vliet
Maybe we could be constructive about this situation. I have encouraged all of my peers, friends and family to contribute to those who were injured by donating blood at their local Red Cross centers (for those of us in the US). I think it's time to get back to CF on this list, but if you have

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2001-09-11 Thread John Paitel
While I have my own opinions on weapons, what should and should not be allowed, etc., an aircraft in the air is no place for Joe Public to have a weapon. One terrorist gunman vs. 10-12 passengers with guns. What happens? Not good. Terrorist(s) get shot, a few passengers get shot, plane

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2001-09-11 Thread Freddy
Hm do religions that worship a different god not count? Take a count most wars have religious as well as polical motivations. Did I ever say be an athiest all I said was that more atrocities are committed in the name of God. Though wars do kill people and the results can be

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2001-09-11 Thread Freddy
, 2001 3:23 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism Yes in part Brian I agree. The question though the military/intelligence/feds need to answer in such situations is what are the targets, what is in the proximity... what is the likelihood of a destructive landing... can negotiations occur

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2001-09-11 Thread Michael Wilson
It shames me that during such tragic moment in history... that amidst all the suffering and loss that untold thousands of people are facing, this discussion has collapsed to this point. Have we, in fact, come to this state in our evolution? Have we completely abandoned our compassion... our

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2001-09-11 Thread Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Terrorism Hm do religions that worship a different god not count? Take a count most wars have religious as well as polical motivations. Did I ever say be an athiest all I said was that more atrocities

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2001-09-11 Thread Bruce Holm
this horrific crime. Bruce - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: RE: Terrorism I think God was one of the main reasons why things like this happen

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2001-09-11 Thread Mahmut Basaran
I'm from Turkey, I will be happy If I can do something from here. Just let me know, - Original Message - From: Yager, Brian T Contractor/NCCIM [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 1:13 AM Subject: RE: Terrorism Alright people...We have

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2001-09-11 Thread Bruce Holm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:42 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism What? not that I am a big gun control guy here. But if people were allowed to take guns on planes then this would happen everyday. At 04:30 PM 9/11/2001 -0400, Freedom wrote

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2001-09-11 Thread Bruce Holm
it wasn't an option...no more WTC and thousands dead! - Original Message - From: Angel Stewart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:48 PM Subject: RE: Terrorism *snicker* HAHAHAHAAHHA! Carry a gun onboard an airplane to 'protect

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2001-09-11 Thread Alexis Maldonado
. - Original Message - From: Bruce Holm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Terrorism I disagree. Put yourself in the shoes of a criminal looking for a house to break in and rob. Before you are two neighborhoods...one who has few

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2001-09-11 Thread Kevin Miller
in the existence of Satan and is responsible for filling people's hearts with anger and hatred enough to commit this horrific crime. Bruce - Original Message - From: Neil Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: RE: Terrorism I think