RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Shawn Grover
Almost everything! This happens to all programmers for a couple of reasons. First, we quite often have our hands tied on some of the methods we would like to use (i.e. a client tells you that you CANT use stored procedures, even though everything you (and other programmers) know about the

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread mynews
I can't imagine that anybody is happy with everything they have ever coded and if they are they must not be progressing and learning. I think the question is have you ever gone back and modified something for an old client without charging him out of embarassmanet? :) I have BJ = = =

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread todd
Heck yeah. I look at old code and ask myself what I was smoking when I wrote it all the time. I think we all do. The importance is realizing that ... you did it and you accept that it's wrong and you learn from it. grain_o_salt And... figure out how to market from your mistakes. ;) Make a

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Jim Vosika
I have always heard that no matter what, there will be 2 programmers that look at and edit your code; the programmer you were when you wrote the code and the programmer you are now. With every project you will probably get a little better, even with a couple years experience under your belt...

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Charlie
huh, the code i wrote last week.i could now write better...everyday i'm involved in CF-Talk, my code gets better amd my career is better for it. - Original Message - From: Phoeun Pha [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:30 PM Subject:

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG
Well uh... yes, I think I could safely say that you represent the experience of most all of us. Since there is a short time span between learning a little cf and then doing something useful it's a safe bet that most CF folks write a lot of bad code in the beginning... unless they were

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Massimo, Tiziana e Federica
Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you now know could have been coded better? The day I will stop having that kind of feeling I will start worrying :-) Massimo __ Signup for the Fusion

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Matt Robertson
Yes. Everything ;D You learn something new every day. That post by Bryan Love a few days back on record locking got me thinking, and with a couple of minor additions became a pretty cool lo-overhead locking tool. Never had one of those in CF before. Happy Friday,

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Cravens, Billy
you wrote your code. That's what separates the code monkeys from the architects. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Almost everything

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Phoeun Pha
ahahaha!! very well put about the upgrade! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Heck yeah. I look at old code and ask myself what I was smoking when I wrote

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread todd
I think a good part of a lot of businesses is modifying, upgrading or rewriting other people's code. One man's best attempt/success is another man's frustration. :) ~Todd On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Mark A. Kruger - CFG wrote: Well uh... yes, I think I could safely say that you represent the

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Phoeun Pha
should have done before you wrote your code. That's what separates the code monkeys from the architects. --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 1:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Almost

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Polaski
There are a bunch of apps that I would write differently, too. If there weren't any, *then* there would be a *big* problem. It's important that you keep learning and applying what you learn to how you do your job. That's one of the reasons programming is considered a profession and not a craft

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Alex
Yes, everything. Everyone looks back at their code and finds where you can improve. But you have deadlines to meet which pay your bills. This is real world code not academic code. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Phoeun Pha wrote: Hey guys, I'm 2 years in the CF game, and so far I've built a timesheet

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Shawn Grover
-Original Message- From: Jeffrey Polaski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built There are a bunch of apps that I would write differently, too. If there weren't any, *then* there would be a *big* problem. It's

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Tony_Petruzzi
: Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 3:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Yes, everything. Everyone looks back at their code and finds where you can improve. But you have deadlines to meet which pay your bills. This is real world code not academic code

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Ewok
] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you now know could have been coded better? The day I will stop having that kind of feeling I will start worrying

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
Is that like The Tao of Pooh ;o) -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built This thread reminds me of The Tao of Programming... for those of you who have been around long

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Bruce, Rodney S HQISEC/SIGNAL
try this http://www.gnomehome.demon.nl/uddf/pages/zzztao.htm for the Tao of Programming -Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built This thread reminds me of The Tao

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Phoeun Pha
that day, then display it. And it did this for every DAY that was displayed!! (about 100 in all) -Original Message- From: Ewok [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Im with Charlie 100% on this one. I can

RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Jeffrey Polaski
-Original Message- From: Shawn Grover [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 12:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Coldfusion Apps You've Built This thread reminds me of The Tao of Programming... for those of you who have been around long enough to have seen it.. grins

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Sharon Diorio
] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 2:13 PM Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Was there anything that you guys have built for past clients that you now know could have been coded better? The day I will stop having that kind of feeling I will start worrying

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Bud
On 6/14/02, Phoeun Pha penned: Hey guys, I'm 2 years in the CF game, and so far I've built a timesheet program, and events administration, countless shopping carts, pharmacy prescription app. But looking back at my code, it was verry bddd! Like I could think of a hundred places to do

Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built

2002-06-14 Thread Jon Hall
3:03 PM Subject: Re: Coldfusion Apps You've Built Yes, everything. Everyone looks back at their code and finds where you can improve. But you have deadlines to meet which pay your bills. This is real world code not academic code. On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Phoeun Pha wrote: Hey guys, I'm 2