Dysfunctionality in government

2003-09-23 Thread Sanford Levinson
First, some shameless self-promotion: Levinson: Why I Did Not Sign the Constitution http://writ.news.findlaw.com/commentary/20030923_levinson.html This provoked the following from Prof. Tung Yin of the University of Iowa Law School: You note one of the structural deficiencies of the

Re: Dysfunctionality in government

2003-09-23 Thread Gregg Miller
I think I agree with you, but as far as my own signing is concerned, I would probably have been required to have a co-signer. I believe your comment that the recall process is "lunatic" is expecially trenchant today, in that I note that Darrel Issa, the person who bankrolled the signatrure

Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Michael Curtis
It strikes me as odd that, in popular culture at least, we have a pantheon of constitutional heroes--George Washington, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton, etc. These are the framers who (for strong political reasons) gave us a constitution that protected the slave trade until 1808, that provided

Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Randy Barnett
Michael's new article is of great interest, and I highly recommend it--even without any disparagement of Washington, Madison Hamilton as producing a Constitution that did not abolish slavery. (For all their accomplishments, Bingham and Howard did not abolish legal discrimination against women,

James Madison Chair in Constitutional Law

2003-09-23 Thread Hunter Clark
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Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Wildenthal
It has long been common knowledge among modern U.S. historians that the American memory and understanding of the Civil War and Reconstruction was basically taken over and distorted for many years by Southern and white-supremacist sympathizers. See, eg, David Blight's recent books on Race, Memory,

Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Judith Baer
It has long been common knowledge among modern U.S. historians that the American memory and understanding of the Civil War and Reconstruction was basically taken over and distorted for many years by Southern and white-supremacist sympathizers. As late as 1977, Raoul Berger (GOVERNMENT BY

Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Wildenthal
It is perhaps unfair to say that Berger swallowed it whole. It's true he did not seem greatly enlightened or informed by the insights of the post-Dunning revisionists, and I think his views on incorporation and the meaning of the 14th amendment were often doggedly obtuse. But despite occasional

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Gregg Miller
So, it's probably just me, but it seems as if the 9th Circuit produced a particularly facile analysis of the balancing of the interests in the en banc opinion. Could it be they are daring the Supremes to reverse them? -Original Message- From: Scarberry, Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Gregg Miller
Perhaps fascile wasn't the most appropriate word (I know I misspelled it - that was a typing error). Perhaps disingenuous is more what I am thinking. I have a hard time believing these judges would let economic interests prevail over the right to vote, or that the burden of having to vote again

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Wildenthal
I have resisted commenting on the California recall litigation, but this is really too much. I cannot let pass the assertion that the need for finality and closure in electoral processes somehow should shield the recall from legal challenges. I'm not sure what it looks like from Harvard Yard,

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Eastman, John
What the heck is the rush? Bryan asks. The California Constitution specifies that recall elections take place within 60-80 days after certification. You may not like the constitutional provision, any more than you like the requirement that Presidential elections be held on the first Tuesday in

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Wildenthal
In response to John's first point, I would cite the Supremacy Clause. I agree we should play by the rules, and the federal constitutional rules (as construed in Bush v Gore, a decision I recall John favored) trump the state constitutional rules (which actually don't invariably dictate that a

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Gregg Miller
I am having a terrible time typing today. I apologize for the improper use of it's in my last post. -Original Message- From: Gregg Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:15 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CA9 takes case in banc I don't mean to pick

Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Michael Zimmer
To follow this thread, the focus of so much inquiry on the intent of the original Framers obscures the fact that whatever their understanding was of the original document, the document today is textually much different. So originalist thinking helps block thinking about what the text today means.

Re: CA9 takes case in banc

2003-09-23 Thread Michael Zimmer
Here is my read: Whether we agreed with the result in Bush v. Gore or not, almost all of us were surprised the Court took the cases in the first instance. Most of us, in our hearts even if it was not only justified but necessary, nevertheless thought that the Court in making the decision to stop

Re: John Bingham the Story of American Liberty

2003-09-23 Thread Bryan Wildenthal
Indeed yes on both counts. The Kennedy essay Mark refers to is (I think) Reconstruction and the Politics of Scholarship, 98 Yale LJ 521 (1989). (I have boxes in arm's reach on my floor with what I suspect may be almost every significant law review article touching on the incorporation issue ever