Re: [RFC] Dealing with World-writable Files in the Archive of CPAN Distributions

2008-09-22 Thread David Golden
[Copying Andreas, Jos, Schwern and the Module::Build list] Well, I'm not sure that escalating to Securiteam at this point was necessary given the low overall risk of the threat, but let's set that aside and find some agreement on closing the hole. Here are my thoughts on some of the

Re: Documenting CPAN::Shell-install etc

2009-01-27 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 4:07 PM, brian d foy brian.d@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing a lot of work with the CPAN.pm programmer's interface for a client, and I'm spending a lot of time in the source figuring out what the rules are. As I go through this, I intend to expand the documentation for

Re: CPAN.pm locking hangs in an NFS-mounted directory

2009-02-17 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 5:14 PM, brian d foy brian.d@gmail.com wrote: Utlimately, I wouldn't mind a feature to disable locking, like no_really_i_know_what_im_doing_so_dont_lock_kthxbye. - % perl5.10.0 -MCPAN -e 'install( Test::Output )' Monkeypatch it? % perl5.10.0 -MCPAN -e

Re: META.json: duty now for the future

2009-05-17 Thread David Golden
On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, Ricardo SIGNES perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote:  * update PAUSE to prefer META.json to META.yml if available  * update CPAN.pm to look at (MY)?META.json  * update CPANPLUS.pm to do the same  * update the build tools to generate (MY)?META.json by default  

CMSP 13. Add a post_depends set

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
13. Add a post_depends set Proposal: Permit specifying of packages that should be installed to provide part of a packages functionality, but should be installed/built *after* the package is installed. (kentnl) Comments: * Being able to specify package that should be installed after the current

CMSP 15. Add development_requires

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
15. Add development_requires Proposal: The development_requires field should specify all prerequisites only needed during development. For example this could include templating or other preprocessing modules needed to generate the final source. (Slaven Rezic) Comments: * This would be just

CMSP 16. Binary Package Dependencies

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
16. Binary Package Dependencies Proposal: Add a binary dependency keyword to be optionally resolved by the shell. eg. binary_requires: - linux-debian: libgif4-dev: 4.1.6 - linux-ubuntu: libgif4-dev: 4.1.6 - linux-redhat: giflib-devel: 4.1.6 - freebsd-ports:

CMSP 28. Short description

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
28. Short description Proposal: Field for short description that can be used in search (with higher priority than long description), when generating README, OS packages or submitting dist to Ohloh, Freshmeat and similar sites. 'abstract' currently is module-specific (for ex. for Shipwright: Best

CMSP 29. Language

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
29. Language Proposal: Perl 6 is coming. Some code in Perl 6 is already being uploaded to the CPAN. A new language field is an important part of the structure we need to allow Perl 6 to reuse the existing CPAN rather than to try to reinvent the whole thing. My recommendation would be that this

CMSP 31. Version changes

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
31. Version changes Proposal: Description of changes in that versions and tags for changes. Useful for submission to Freshmeat and for quick review of changes. --Chorny 18:51, 30 September 2009 (BST)

Re: CMSP 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:11 AM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:42:35] 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON Strongly agree. * I would like one violation of the JSON spec: allow Javascript-style   comments. My one beef

Re: CMSP 06. Data structures, not YAML

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:44 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 06. Data structures, not YAML Proposal: The META spec should be defined in terms of (Perl) data structures, and not in terms of YAML. (Slaven Rezic) Comments: * This does not mean that I want to replace YAML by a Perl

Re: CMSP 07. Enhance granularity of prerequisites

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:16 AM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:45:22] 07. Enhance granularity of prerequisites Agreed.  Also suggest (08. Extensibly Group Prereqs) as related and useful. Agree on both points.

Re: CMSP 08. Extensibly Group Prereqs

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:46 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 08. Extensibly Group Prereqs Proposal: Rather than have 'config_requires' and 'install_requires' and 'signature_requires' and 'build_recommends', have a two-level system.  This requires a small bit of reworking now

Re: CMSP 10. Add a free-text prerequisite field

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Steffen Mueller nj88ud...@sneakemail.com wrote: Putting human-readable stuff in a file intended primarily for machine-readability seems of minimal use to me. I'm in two minds about this. Such a free form field may be useful if you consider that human-readable

Re: CMSP 11. OS/arch/platform-specific requirements

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:47 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 11. OS/arch/platform-specific requirements Proposal: I would like to see a way to specify OS-specific requirements. One option might be to use Devel::CheckOS, which already seems to have a comprehensive list of supported

Re: CMSP 12. Allow Sequences (Arrays) for Prereqs

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:47 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 12. Allow Sequences (Arrays) for Prereqs Proposal: Right now, to the best of my knowledge, the only benefit of a the magic Bundle:: namespace is that its prerequisites can be declared in optimal installation order

Re: CMSP 13. Add a post_depends set

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:48 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 13. Add a post_depends set Proposal: Permit specifying of packages that should be installed to provide part of a packages functionality, but should be installed/built *after* the package is installed. (kentnl) Strongly

Re: CMSP 12. Allow Sequences (Arrays) for Prereqs

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * Ruslan Zakirov ruslan.zaki...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T15:28:29] On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:47 PM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 12. Allow Sequences (Arrays) for Prereqs [snip] order by using

Re: CMSP 23. Have a development version flag

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Steffen Mueller nj88ud...@sneakemail.com wrote: David Golden wrote: 23. Have a development version flag * Con: Development version'ness would not be determinable post-installation  AdamKennedy Correction to my earlier reply: If we have the META info

Re: CMSP 15. Add development_requires

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Steffen Mueller nj88ud...@sneakemail.com wrote: David Golden wrote: 15. Add development_requires The development_requires field should specify all prerequisites only needed during development. For example this could include templating or other preprocessing

Re: CMSP 17. Better formalization of license field

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 17. Better formalization of license field Proposal: Replace the list of strings for the license field with something extensible and unambiguous. (RicardoSignes) I would prefer to remove the license field entirely

Re: CMSP 18. Make dynamic_config mandatory

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 3:19 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com [2009-10-09T14:18:42] WTF is dynamic_config? If dynamic_config is set in your META.yml:  true means you must run Makefile.PL or Build.PL and rely only on its output  

Re: CMSP 19. Make repository resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:51 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 19. Make repository resource a hash  resources:     repository:        web: http://github.com/2shortplanks/test-time-hires        url: git://github.com/2shortplanks/test-time-hires.git        format: git        type

Re: CMSP 20. Make bugtracker resource a hash

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 8:34 AM, Hans Dieter Pearcey h...@pobox.com wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 07:51:29 -0400 2009: 20. Make bugtracker resource a hash Proposal: The bugtracker resource shoudl be made into a hash that defines different types of resources, e.g.

Re: CMSP 21. Formalize optional_features

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:51 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 21. Formalize optional_features Proposal: Optional features: is supported in META.yml, but it requires a lot of manual intervention and trickery to make it work. And it is very poorly documented. (Tux) I'm for doing

Re: CMSP 22. Clarify author field

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:52 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 22. Clarify author field Proposal: I would like to see some clarification of what an author is, especially since the numbers of distros +1 on clarification. I don't have a strong feel for what to do about. Simplest

Re: CMSP 25. Controlling test suite runs

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:53 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 25. Controlling test suite runs Proposal: The META spec should add flags to indicate that distribution's tests may be shuffled or run in parallel. (SlavenRezic) -1 I don't think this belongs in META. Module::Build

Re: CMSP 26. Specify a DLSIP resource

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:53 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 26. Specify a DLSIP resource Proposal: DLSIP codes should be specified in META.* as a resource. -1 -- David

Re: CMSP 29. Language

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:52 AM, Steffen Mueller nj88ud...@sneakemail.com wrote: David Golden wrote: 29. Language Proposal: Perl 6 is coming. Some code in Perl 6 is already being uploaded to the CPAN.  A new language field is an important part of the structure we need to allow Perl 6

Re: CMSP 31. Version changes

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:55 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 31. Version changes Proposal: Description of changes in that versions and tags for changes. Useful for submission to Freshmeat and for quick review of changes. --Chorny 18:51, 30 September 2009 (BST) -1 for moving all

Re: CMSP 32. Steal from other package meta specs

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 32. Steal from other package meta specs Proposal: Hunt down the spec authors and some heavy package users, ask what in the spec/package meta files works for them and what doesn't, then steal the best features. -- Daxim

Re: CMSP 13. Add a post_depends set

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey h...@pobox.com wrote: Excerpts from David Golden's message of Fri Oct 09 12:09:09 -0400 2009: On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:48 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: Permit specifying of packages that should be installed to provide part

Re: CMSP 09. Clarify intent of 'recommends' and add 'suggests'

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 1:19 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: On Oct 9, 2009, at 4:46 AM, David Golden wrote: * 'recommends' or 'suggests' they both imply (to me) they list optional  dependencies. Perhaps we could have both, where 'suggests' implies the  toolchain should ask

Re: CMSP 22. Clarify author field

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 4:55 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: I'd rather just have one datum: in case of emergency, contact whom?  Heck, this can be a mailing list.  Oh, wait, we have a field for that!  And we have a field for bug tracker and home page. So, a resource

Re: CMSP 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable

2009-10-09 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:56 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 33. Install Meta files and make them queryable Proposal: Using something like .packlist or File::ShareDir, the Meta file should be installed along with the distribution and Meta tools should allow easy querying of meta

Re: CMSP 19. Make repository resource a hash

2009-10-10 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:51:06] 19. Make repository resource a hash Branch available: http://github.com/rjbs/cpan-meta-spec/commits/19-repository-hash Seems to me that url and type

Re: CMSP 02. Formally switch to YAML Tiny

2009-10-10 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:42:06] 02. Formally switch to YAML Tiny Branch available: http://github.com/rjbs/cpan-meta-spec/commits/02-yamltiny If we only make this change and not JSON

Re: CMSP 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON

2009-10-10 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 10:46 PM, Ricardo Signes perl.cpanw...@rjbs.manxome.org wrote: * David Golden xda...@gmail.com [2009-10-09T07:42:35] 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON Branch available: http://github.com/rjbs/cpan-meta-spec/commits/03-json +1 (I guess I just needed to keep

Re: CMSP 17. Better formalization of license field

2009-10-10 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:50 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 17. Better formalization of license field Proposal: Replace the list of strings for the license field with something extensible and unambiguous. (RicardoSignes) This discussion is going in circles, I think. I'd like

Re: CMSP 17. Better formalization of license field

2009-10-11 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 3:21 AM, Zefram zef...@fysh.org wrote: 17.02) Make the license field an arrayref rather than a scalar. Could make the field a string expression, with the defined keywords as atomic expressions, | and operators for license combination, and parens for precedence.  A

Re: ENOMAIL

2009-10-11 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote: Anyone any idea why I'm not getting mail to this list? Have I been blocked? Nothing in my spam traps and the last mail i got was Aug 26. I note that there has been a flurry of CMSP items in the web archives, but I'm not

Re: CMSP 17. Better formalization of license field

2009-10-11 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Oct 11, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Chris Weyl chris.w...@gmail.com wrote: As a packager outside of the CPAN I want to have a good idea if we can redistribute the software -- legally and within project policy.  Just as dependency metadata gives me a good view into the software's requirements, so

Re: CMSP 16. Binary Package Dependencies

2009-10-22 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 4:08 AM, Zbigniew Lukasiak zzb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I've noticed two reactions to this proposal: it is great if it could be done right and it is currently too difficult.  This leads me to following: how about a lib_requires (or requires_lib) - with identical

CPAN Meta Spec Proposals -- only a couple more days for public comment

2009-10-29 Thread David Golden
On November 1, I'm going to declare the public comment period over. That means I'll take areas of consensus and corresponding patches and merge them into a proposed draft spec. For anything with consensus and no patch I'll make a final request for volunteers to write it up. Anything without

Re: CMSP 22. Clarify author field

2009-10-30 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ lars.diec...@googlemail.com wrote: Since we have no consensus on a change of semantic, field extension, field renaming or deprecation in favour of something better, I came up with a doc patch (attached because Github is down) that merely describes

Re: CMSP 04. Formalize allowed version number formats

2009-10-31 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:43 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 04. Formalize allowed version number formats Proposal: Formalize the spec for version numbers as decimal or normalized dotted-integer (leading v and at least 3 components).  (Dagolden) Comments: * It's not clear whether

Re: CMSP 27. Long description

2009-10-31 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:54 AM, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: 27. Long description Proposal: Field for long description that can be used in search, when generating README, OS packages or submitting dist to Ohloh, Freshmeat and similar sites. --Chorny 19:40, 21 September 2009 (BST

Re: CMSP 03. Deprecate YAML Tiny dialect for JSON

2009-10-31 Thread David Golden
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote: I see 01, 02 and 03 all part of the same discussion really. There seems little point in discussing YAML if we think moving to JSON is the better option. I'm with the strongly agree camp on the first part of above :) (and

Extending timeline for CPAN Meta Spec 2.0

2009-11-22 Thread David Golden
When I set out the timeline for revisions to the CPAN Meta Spec, I was anticipating closing the public comments at the end of October and finalizing the spec at the end of November. Fortunately for Perl, but unfortunately for me, our new pumpking, Jesse Vincent, announced on Halloween a Perl

Re: optional_features key names

2009-12-15 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 6:10 AM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote: Although not explicitly stated in the current specifications (v1.0 - v1.4), the convention has been to precede user defined keys with [xX]_. That doesn't sound right for the optional features names.  The effect would be

Re: optional_features key names

2009-12-16 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Barbie bar...@missbarbell.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 02:32:42PM +, Zefram wrote: David Golden wrote:                Right now, the draft says an identifier and that term could be defined further. I take identifier, without further explanation

Re: Perl 6 versus the CPAN

2010-01-04 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 5:15 PM, brian d foy brian.d@gmail.com wrote: 02packages is actually quite flexible. There's a line in the header that tells consumers what the columns are. Since we've used the same three columns, a lot of stuff has assumed that the order and meaning will always be

Re: RFC: PGAN

2010-01-07 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 5:36 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: My hope is that it's full of JFDI! I would be very grateful for feedback and suggestions. Thoughts in no particular order: * Limiting to gzip/bzip2 tarballs may screw over Windows users who don't have access to a

Re: RFC: PGAN

2010-01-07 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 11:47 PM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: * I don't see how a Makefile can be optional if you need it to build extensions Hrm. Well you can upload scripts to CPAN. Did you know that? CPAN.pm doesn't know what to do with them, but they're there. I was just

Re: RFC: PGAN

2010-01-07 Thread David Golden
On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:29 AM, David E. Wheeler da...@kineticode.com wrote: See File::Rsync::Mirror::Recent Interesting. I especially like the PRE-ALPHA ALERT . Yeah... well, it's a memory hog, but cpan.hexten.net, cpan.cpantesters.org and cpan.dagolden.com are running it at least.

Quick note on CPAN Meta Spec 2.0

2010-01-11 Thread David Golden
Unfortunately, I've again decided to postpone finishing edits to the spec due to a lack of round tuits. I'm busy helping Jesse on bits and pieces for Perl 5.12 and have a sudden crash project to get CPAN Testers 2.0 migrated off email/NNTP by request of the Perl NOC. When crises subside, I'll be

CPAN steals some tricks from local::lib...

2010-01-24 Thread David Golden
The code that produced the output below is in a branch in my github repo. Very experimental, but perhaps promising. http://pasta.test-smoke.org/199 It's run from a clean user with no prior .cpan or other perl configuration, against my CPAN branch installed into an otherwise vanilla perl 5.11.4

Re: CPAN and XDG directories

2010-02-18 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Feb 18, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Lars Dɪᴇᴄᴋᴏᴡ 迪拉斯 da...@cpan.org wrote: I of course ran `perl Makefile.PL ; make ; make testdistro ; make test` on the source directory before committing and encountered no problems. Tests pass, my configuration below `$HOME/.config` was not overwritten, and also

How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-13 Thread David Golden
I'm writing up my notes from an extensive IRC conversation with Jesse Vincent. I offered to post it to cpan-workers for feedback. He and I agree that there are significant benefits to the community to using a single repository for both Perl 5 and Perl 6 distributions. We worked through some

Re: How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-14 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Adam Kennedy a...@ali.as wrote: I've been meaning to propose for a while that for CPAN Perl 5 we drop support for everything other than tar.gz (we can talk about the need for zip files later) and encourage a switch to something like

Re: How to have Perl 5 and Perl 6 cohabitate nicely on CPAN

2010-04-15 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Tim Bunce tim.bu...@pobox.com wrote: On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 09:59:32PM -0400, Jesse Vincent wrote: Forcing an extension makes all sorts of tools that previously just worked with a tarball suddenly start to fail. We've dealt with it in the past. However, I'm

Re: Leo is skinning www.cpan.org

2010-09-26 Thread David Golden
On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 10:31 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen a...@perl.org wrote: On Sep 26, 2010, at 17:40, David Golden xda...@gmail.com wrote: I'm more interested in getting a proper tiering structure in place and a way for people to register themselves on a tier. Just start with: Tier 1

Re: Leo is skinning www.cpan.org

2010-09-27 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:44 AM, Leo Lapworth l...@cuckoo.org wrote: As has been mentioned, there are far more significant sysadmin issues than the web front end, so I'm not currently looking for feedback as I know it can be improved :) Despite waving off feedback, I'll give you mine anyway.

Re: Can anyone give me access to an authenticating proxy server for testing?

2010-11-03 Thread David Golden
On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen a...@perl.org wrote: On Nov 2, 2010, at 20:12, David Golden wrote: I want to experiment with CPAN.pm and authenticating proxies.  Can anyone give me access to a proxy server? Install squid on your laptop? I was hoping for the here's an ID

Re: Can anyone give me access to an authenticating proxy server for testing?

2010-11-03 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 5:41 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote:  http://cpansearch.perl.org/src/BOOK/HTTP-Proxy-0.24/eg/proxy-auth.pl (Wherein here's an ID and password is in the comments on line 8.) Fabulous. Of course, I should have checked CPAN first. I'm testing HTTP::Lite with

Re: Ports list - is it being maintained?

2011-02-17 Thread David Golden
That raises a broader question. Who maintains all of the non tarball content on CPAN and what is the process for getting it changed? -- David On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Leo Lapworth l...@cuckoo.org wrote: Hi, Is http://www.cpan.org/ports/ being maintained by anyone?

Re: Ports list - is it being maintained?

2011-02-17 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Andreas J. Koenig andreas.koenig.7os6v...@franz.ak.mind.de wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 14:43:44 -0500, David Golden xda...@gmail.com said:   That raises a broader question.   Who maintains all of the non tarball content on CPAN and what is the   process

Re: Ports list - is it being maintained?

2011-02-17 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 3:44 PM, Ask Bjørn Hansen a...@perl.org wrote: We at perl.org took it over recently but haven't gotten this sort of thing setup yet.  (First order of business was getting the mirror list maintained again, we setup a process for that and Henk Penning is now maintaining

Fwd: [perl #99212] Breech of personal information on CPAN

2011-09-18 Thread David Golden
FYI. Another case of files needing to be purged from PAUSE/CPAN/BackPAN. I'm not sure whether there should be a process for confirming takedowns or not. -- David -- Forwarded message -- From: Charles Hamilton chamil...@dyercpa.com Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM Subject:

Re: namespaces that differ only in case

2012-04-04 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Eric Wilhelm enoba...@gmail.com wrote: The uppercase INTEGER.pm does not actually exists (even though the broken fs is saying yes to -e)?  If so, this is a bug in the cpan shell (albeit one which requires a big workaround to deal with the broken fs.) I'm not

Distribution names are not unique. We need to figure out what to do about it.

2013-03-13 Thread David Golden
downstream in reporting. [2] See http://www.dagolden.com/index.php/308/packages-modules-and-distributions/ -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Take back your inbox! → http://www.bunchmail.com/ Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Distribution names are not unique. We need to figure out what to do about it.

2013-03-14 Thread David Golden
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 8:14 AM, Ruslan Zakirov r...@bestpractical.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:31 AM, David Golden x...@xdg.me wrote: (2) rt.cpan.org treated both distributions as having the same RT queue. I gained administrative access to BinGOs' existing queues. Just to make

Re: Distribution names are not unique. We need to figure out what to do about it.

2013-03-18 Thread David Golden
petered out last year: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.cpan.workers/2012/03/msg997.html Rik and I have done the code work for PAUSE. Just the pull request to Andreas is pending. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Take back your inbox! → http://www.bunchmail.com/ Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: RT #36539: Edge cases in find_perl algorithms

2013-09-07 Thread David Golden
were run with to better ensure we found the right Perl. (MB already does this. CP not affected as it does not search for Perl) I'll patch up MakeMaker to do this and provide a patch for CPAN.pm. If I'm feeling gung-ho I might do CPANPLUS and Module::Build, too. -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Take

Re: Configuring a new machine in an up-to-date way

2014-01-19 Thread David Golden
as 18.2t so you can use 18.2t to make that active. Perlbrew appears to have an install-multiple command that can install threaded/non-threaded variants, etc. but that feature postdates my own automation so I haven't bothered. Hope that helps, David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Take back your inbox

Re: Lancaster Consensus, deal with PUREPERL_ONLY=0

2014-06-01 Thread David Golden
- how should PUREPERL_ONLY=0 being interpreted? Cheers -- Jens Rehsack rehs...@gmail.com -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Lancaster Consensus, deal with PUREPERL_ONLY=0

2014-06-02 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:53 AM, Jens Rehsack rehs...@gmail.com wrote: Am 02.06.2014 um 13:34 schrieb David Golden x...@xdg.me: On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:28 AM, Jens Rehsack rehs...@gmail.com wrote: Others (eg. packagers) have always a compiler and want benefit from XS when available and what

Re: Lancaster Consensus, deal with PUREPERL_ONLY=0

2014-06-02 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 9:22 AM, Jens Rehsack rehs...@gmail.com wrote: Web-Search for CPAN Testers magic strings doesn't provide suitable results - is there a list of those magic results? http://wiki.cpantesters.org/wiki/CPANAuthorNotes If I would know what is expected, I will make

Re: Lancaster Consensus, deal with PUREPERL_ONLY=0

2014-06-02 Thread David Golden
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 7:28 PM, Aristotle Pagaltzis pagalt...@gmx.de wrote: If I have my system set up to support XS then I want it to use XS, and if for some reason it can’t, then there is a bug somewhere that needs to be fixed, so I do *not* want it to silently give me the PP version and

Re: Lancaster Consensus, deal with PUREPERL_ONLY=0

2014-06-03 Thread David Golden
PUREPERL_ONLY, make never compiles the extension, and then the main module doesn't just try bootstrap inside eval{} but actually checks to see if the extension is in @INC. If so, bootstrap it or die; if not, fall back to pure Perl. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: RFC Consensus on Network testing ENV?

2014-06-11 Thread David Golden
on testers to declare capabilities. use Test::RequiresInternet; # or skip_all Or, if particular hosts/ports need to be reachable: use Test::RequiresInternet { www.google.com = 80 }; David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: RFC Consensus on Network testing ENV?

2014-06-11 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: Has the user in question granted permission to use the internet. I disagree with the premise that one needs to ask. Users are already running arbitrary Perl code and must take responsibility for anything that it might

File::Temp/File::Spec problems on Windows under taint mode – breaking change needed?

2015-04-23 Thread David Golden
breaking change, but I think doing something in a different place than requested is better than failing entirely. Alternatively, it needs to validate the Win32 response and throw an error early, before attempting to make the directory so that the error message is more informative. Thoughts? -- David

Re: File::Temp/File::Spec problems on Windows under taint mode – breaking change needed?

2015-04-24 Thread David Golden
I’m not sure quite where it falls. In Berlin we said that that the toolchain charter meant discussing major/breaking changes in a publicly archived venue -- and we picked this existing one to start. I hope we'll see more technical discussions of this sort going forward. -- David Golden x

Re: On the current Test::More-to-be

2015-04-29 Thread David Golden
the best course of action is for Chad to split it out from Test-Simple and release it to CPAN. Let an ecosystem build around it and after it achieves stability, then we can reconsider using it as the basis for Test::Builder at a later date. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: On the current Test::More-to-be

2015-04-30 Thread David Golden
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Re: File::Temp/File::Spec problems on Windows under taint mode – breaking change needed?

2015-04-27 Thread David Golden
the best choice for temporary data. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: On Not Merging new and old behavior ( was Re: Test-Stream + MongoDB scalar refcount issue )

2015-05-02 Thread David Golden
that horror show in Dancer/Dancer2 around plugins. I think that if we ship a Test::More2, then such a release should encourage people to leave Test::Foo alone and fork it to Test::Foo2 instead. Then a new ecosystem can build up around it without sacrificing the existing one. David -- David Golden x

Re: On Not Merging new and old behavior ( was Re: Test-Stream + MongoDB scalar refcount issue )

2015-05-02 Thread David Golden
::* libraries and I suspect that they could be forked to use Test::Builder2 trivially, as few of them wind up needing the interesting new bits. Only the Test::* modules that were monkey patching or can take advantage of hooks would need any real revision. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC

Re: Test-Stream + MongoDB scalar refcount issue

2015-05-04 Thread David Golden
return or extract the DB result directly without using the Cursor code didn't repro, at least within my patience to run the test code in a tight loop four times in parallel for many minutes. It also seems related to the use of Try::Tiny as replacing that with an eval didn't repro. David -- David

Re: On the current Test::More-to-be

2015-04-30 Thread David Golden
in on the problem) I can do that, but probably not this week due to work issues. -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Documenting best practices and the state of ToolChain guidelines using CPAN and POD

2015-05-06 Thread David Golden
. Regarding the bus factor of consensus agreements, while it may be invisible, the PTG has them: https://github.com/Perl-Toolchain-Gang/toolchain-site -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Measuring water quality of the CPAN river

2015-05-10 Thread David Golden
between stable releases David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Handling policy commitment disputes [was: Berlin Consensus document posted]

2015-05-09 Thread David Golden
a great point that I'll try to remember to include in my annotated version. -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Berlin Consensus document posted to toolchain-site

2015-05-09 Thread David Golden
https://github.com/Perl-Toolchain-Gang/toolchain-site/blob/master/berlin-consensus.md I've posted the Berlin Consensus document. I'll be working on my annotated version with color commentary for my blog over the next week or so. Regards, David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

TRIAL dists shipping today

2015-05-19 Thread David Golden
issues and let me know ASAP. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Perl-toolchain-gang -- using devel branches rather than master

2015-05-19 Thread David Golden
to stabilize. I think this will be a good practice for the PTG in general. Thoughts? David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Perl-toolchain-gang -- using devel branches rather than master

2015-06-08 Thread David Golden
and make master the default branch again. -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

Re: Identify ways downstream distros use a given distro; include test in test suite

2015-06-10 Thread David Golden
On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:54 PM, James E Keenan jk...@verizon.net wrote: Is there any prior art for it? https://metacpan.org/pod/Test::DependentModules Though I think that just runs downriver tests, not scrapes their usage in any way. David -- David Golden x...@xdg.me Twitter/IRC: @xdg

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