[CTRL] Project FBI Paranoia - Keywords: FBI, PROJECT MEGGIDO, PROFILING
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave Project FBI Paranoia Government Announcement Keywords: FBI, PROJECT MEGGIDO, PROFILING Source: Mellissa Hill Published: 11/14/99 Author: Mellissa Hill Posted on 11/15/1999 13:14:29 PST by The Documentary Lady The FBI Paranoia Report Table of Contents: I. Introduction II. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) A. Brief History B. Ideological Beliefs C. Profile of the Group D. Funding E. Examples of Terrorist Activities III. Conclusion Introduction: With only a few months to go until the year 2000, there has already been an increase in pro-government paranoid thinking. By studying pro-government extremist groups like the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), Project FBI Paranoia has found a wealth of information on their dangerous ideological belief system. The FBI terrorist group poses a threat to the individual liberties of all Americans. With a long history of ignoring the Bill of Rights, there is a legitimate reason to believe that they will continue to pose a threat in the year 2000 and beyond. II. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) A. Brief History A part of the so-called "Department of Justice" (DOJ), the FBI is one of the most well known extremist government groups. Founded in 1908, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has a long history of violating an individual's rights. In the 1920's and 30's, the FBI enforced the unsuccessful Prohibition laws. Out of these laws came two powerful classes of gangsters. Al Capone and other bootleggers are confined to the history books but the FBI federal gangsters have survived to this date. During the Cold War era, the FBI continued to produce file after file on "subversive" people under J. Edgar Hoover's reign. People as benign as Helen Keller had a file introduced on them by this government supremacist group. Even with the end of the Hoover administration, the FBI has not stopped their terrorist activities against individual liberty. In the past decade, there is evidence pointing to FBI cover-ups in incidents like Waco, Ruby Ridge, and Filegate. The FBI terrorist group is responsible for numerous killings of innocent Americans. Even with these charges, the FBI extremists have not been brought to justice. B. Ideological Beliefs The FBI is founded upon a belief in a strong federal government. The federal government has supremacy over the state/local governments as well as the individual American. The FBI has gained an increasing presence in all areas of law enforcement activities on a national, state/local, and even international level. Contrary to the principles of state sovereignty expressed in the 9th and 10th amendments, the FBI now claims jurisdiction over many "law enforcement" activities that should be reserved for the states or not be done at all. Working along side other government supremacist groups, they have managed to produce a tyrannical system of power over all Americans. The FBI government supremacists advocate draconian laws and legislation that effects us all. FBI pro-government supremacists want your fingerprint, access to your computer files, your DNA, almost anything that they can get on you. What the government extremists don't tell you is that the FBI and other pro-government supremacists groups are waging a war against your basic rights. The FBI's paranoid belief system lends itself to producing a "witch-hunt" mentality. They irrationally perceive that there are many "witches" who will appear around the year 2000. Many excellent examples of their paranoid mentality can be found in reading their newest press release, "Project Meggido." The report includes hateful language like "cult". FBI government supremacists use terms like "cults" to describe any group they don't like. They are also targeting "militia, apocalyptic, christian identity, " groups as possible enemies for the year 2000. Their witch-hunts focus on "unpopular" targets in order not to ruffle the feathers of the mainstream culture. Even if you don't belong or associate with any of these groups, remember the witch-hunts often lead to increasing power for the FBI. Interpretation of the Constitution/Bill of Rights The FBI claims to be "faithful to the Constitution." But like most government supremacist groups, their faithfulness is only to be found in a broad interpretation of the constitution. Adherents of this "living" constitution can justify their actions by claiming the Constitution can be easily changed according to the "popular" ideas of the current time. Of course, the "constitution" that the FBI has remained faithful to doesn't include a Bill of Rights. The FBI is fearful of the original Bill of Rights. If presented with a copy of these rights, they will still ignore them. Government supremacists follow a "constitution" that doesn't include individual rights. The FBI terrorist government supremacist extremist's "bill of rights"says, "you have the right to forfeit all your rights
Re: [CTRL] Chechnya's hidden history
-Caveat Lector- Thanks again. Hope ya had a happy. Om k DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The Forbidden Legacy of a Fallen Race Part 1
-Caveat Lector- Hi all, I'm back online with another ISP. Think the bugs ate the last one. Nicky Posted by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/ http://skywatch.iwarp.com The Forbidden Legacy of a Fallen Race by Andrew Collins Extracted from New Dawn No.40 (January-February, 1997) Is civilisation the legacy of a race of human angels known as Watchers and Nephilim? Andrew Collins, author of FROM THE ASHES OF ANGELS, previews his history of angels and fallen angels and traces their origin back to an extraordinarily advanced culture that entered the Near East shortly after the end of the last Ice Age. Angels are something we associate with beautiful Pre-Raphaelite and renaissance paintings, carved statues accompanying gothic architecture and supernatural beings who intervene in our lives at times of trouble. For the last 2000 years this has been the stereotypical image fostered by the Christian Church. But what are angels? Where do they come from, and what have they meant to the development of organised religion? Many people see the Pentateuch, the first five books of the Old Testament, as littered with accounts of angels appearing to righteous patriarchs and visionary prophets. Yet this is simply not so. There are the three angels who approach Abraham to announce the birth of a son named Izaac to his wife Sarah as he sits beneath a tree on the Plain of Mamre. There are the two angels who visit Lot and his wife at Sodom prior to its destruction. There is the angel who wrestles all night with Jacob at a place named Penuel, or those which he sees moving up and down a ladder that stretches between heaven and earth. Yet other than these accounts, there are too few examples, and when angels do appear the narrative is often vague and unclear on what exactly is going on. For instance, in the case of both Abraham and Lot the angels in question are described simply as `men', who sit down to take food like any mortal person. Influence of the Magi It was not until post-exilic times -- i.e. after the Jews returned from captivity in Babylon around 450 BC -- that angels became an integral part of the Jewish religion. It was even later, around 200 BC, that they began appearing with frequency in Judaic religious literature. Works such as the Book of Daniel and the apocryphal Book of Tobit contain enigmatic accounts of angelic beings that have individual names, specific appearances and established hierarchies. These radiant figures were of non-Judaic origin. All the indications are that they were aliens, imports from a foreign kingdom, namely Persia. The country we know today as Iran might not at first seem the most likely source for angels, but it is a fact that the exiled Jews were heavily exposed to its religious faiths after the Persian king Cyrus the Great took Babylon in 539 BC. These included not only Zoroastrianism, after the prophet Zoroaster or Zarathustra, but also the much older religion of the Magi, the elite priestly caste of Media in north-west Iran. They believed in a whole pantheon of supernatural beings called ahuras, or `shining ones', and daevas -- ahuras who had fallen from grace because of their corruption of mankind. Although eventually outlawed by Persia, the influence of the Magi ran deep within the beliefs, customs and rituals of Zoroastrianism. Moreover, there can be little doubt that Magianism, from which we get terms such as magus, magic and magician, helped to establish the belief among Jews not only of whole hierarchies of angels, but also of legions of fallen angels -- a topic that gains its greatest inspiration from one work alone -- the Book of Enoch. The Book of Enoch Compiled in stages somewhere between 165 BC and the start of the Christian era, this so-called pseudepigraphal (i.e. falsely attributed) work has as its main theme the story behind the fall of the angels. Yet not the fall of angels in general, but those which were originally known as '?rin ('?r in singular), "those who watch", or simply `watchers' as the word is rendered in English translation. The Book of Enoch tells the story of how 200 rebel angels, or Watchers, decided to transgress the heavenly laws and `descend' on to the plains and take wives from among mortal kind. The site given for this event is the summit of Hermon, a mythical location generally associated with the snowy heights of Mount Hermon in the Ante-Lebanon range, north of modern-day Palestine (but see below for the most likely homeland of the Watchers). The 200 rebels realise the implications of their transgressions, for they agree to swear an oath to the effect that their leader Shemyaza would take the blame if the whole ill-fated venture went terribly wrong. After their descent to the lowlands, the Watchers indulge in earthly delights with their chosen `wives', and through these unions are born giant offspring named as Nephilim, or
[CTRL] The Forbidden Legacy of a Fallen Race pt 2
-Caveat Lector- Posted by [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Keep/4885/ http://skywatch.iwarp.com The Heavenly Mountain There is much more, however, for it is not just the Iranian and Jewish races that cite Kurdistan as the cradle of civilisation. The mythologies of both the Sumerians, who ruled the various Mesopotamian city-states from around 3000 BC onwards, and their eventual conquerors, the Akkadians, placed the homeland of the gods in this exact same region. The Akkadians originated as a Semitic, or proto-Hebrew, race of uncertain origin, and in their religious literature this heavenly abode is referred to as Kharsag Khurra, the heavenly mountain. Here the gods, also known as the Anannage, lived in a paradisical realm with gardens, orchards, temples and irrigated fields that not only resemble the Seven Heavens described in the Book of Enoch, but is actually referred to on more than one occasion as edin, the Akkadian for `steppe' or `plateau'. Even further linking Kharsag with the Jewish domain of angels is the knowledge that the Anannage, like the Enochian Watchers, were governed by a council of seven. These undoubtedly equate with the seven archangels of post-exilic Judaism as well as the six so-called Amesha Spentas, or `bounteous spirits', who with the supreme god Ahura Mazda, preside over the angelic hierarchies in Iranian tradition. Were the Anannage, the gods and goddesses of Kharsag, simply another form of the Watchers of Enochian and Dead Sea literature, whose homeland was a lofty agricultural settlement called Eden or heaven, located somewhere amid the mountains of Kurdistan? The Search for Dilmun Kharsag is not the only name used by the ancient Mesopotamians to refer to their place of first beginnings. This cradle of civilisation was also known by the name Dilmun, or Tilmun. Here, it was said, the god Ea and his wife were placed to institute "a sinless age of complete happiness". Here too animals lived in peace and harmony, man had no rival and the god Enlil "in one tongue gave praise". It is also described as a pure, clean and "bright" "abode of the immortals" where death, disease and sorrow are unknown and some mortals have been given "life like a god", words reminiscent of the Airyana Vaejah, the realm of the immortals in Iranian myth and legend, and the Eden of Hebraic tradition. Although Dilmun is equated by most scholars with the island of Bahrain in the Persian Gulf, there is evidence to suggest that a much earlier mythical Dilmun was located in a mountainous region beyond the plains of Sumer. But where exactly was it located? Mesopotamian inscriptions do not say; however, the Zoroastrian Bundahishn text and the Christian records of Arbela in Iraqi Kurdistan both refer to a location named Dilam?n as having existed around the headwaters of the Tigris, south-west of Lake Van -- the very area in which the biblical Eden is said to have been located. Furthermore, Ea (the Akkadian Enki) was said to have presided over the concourse of Mesopotamia's two greatest rivers -- the Tigris and Euphrates -- which are shown in depictions as flowing from each of his shoulders. This would have undoubtedly have meant that the head-waters, or sources, of these rivers would have been looked upon as sacred to Ea by the cultures of Mesopotamia's Fertile Crescent. More curious is the knowledge that, as in Hebrew and Iranian myth, there would appear to have been a fall of the gods of Anu, the Anannage. Whilst 300 of their number remained in heaven, some 600 others, under the leadership of Nergal, god of the underworld, settled among mortal kind. Here they provided mankind with everything from basic agriculture, to astronomy, land irrigation, building technology and structured society. Sounds familiar? These rebel Anannage lived "in the earth", a reference to an "underworld" realm connected with the ancient city of Kutha, north of Babylon. In this "House of Darkness" lived "demons" and Edimmu, giant blood-sucking vampires who would return to the surface world after dark to steal the souls of the undead. Could these infernal beings be a distorted memory of the rebel Watchers and their monstrous offspring, the Nephilim? Might these fallen angels have lived in underground cities after their descent on to the plains? The Bodies of Birds Ancient Mesopotamia fathered whole pantheons of devils and demons -- each class having its own appearance, functions and attributes. Some were beneficial to mankind, while others caused only pain, suffering and torment in the mortal world. In the story of the goddess Ishtar's descent to the underworld, preserved in Assyrio-Babylonian tradition, the "chiefs" of the "House of Darkness" were said to have been "like birds covered with feathers", who "from the days of old ruled the earth, (and) to whom the gods Anu and Bel have
Re: [CTRL] Tales of the Underclass
-Caveat Lector- Walking is still for free. But of course where you can go is proscribed. But when hasn't it been? Even here in Australia in prior to the British invasion/settlement (take your pick) the Aborigines couldn't walk where they pleased. There were areas off-limits to you according to various traditions imposed, not to mention that trespassing on the territory of your neighbours was a potentially fatal no-no. Humans have always been territorial. You will not find a time when they weren't. The point was, contrary to Nessie's ramblings, that you can still go from A to B under your own power without paying anybody for the very act moving your legs in whatever direction you take. BD. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Carter's Hostage Rescue Failure
-Caveat Lector- A couple of points. * Nixon's relationship with the Establishment or "Oligarchy" was always antagonistic. As the White House tapes and various accounts of Nixon attest, Nixon had an almost paranoid hatred of the Establishment including the press, think-tanks, the "Wise Men", rich people in general, the CIA and of course Rocky. On a couple of occasions he talked of breaking into the CFR offices and giving them a going over. He also believed the Nelson had used dirty tricks against him back in 1960 and often baited Kissinger about his relationship with Rocky. * I think the Rockefeller power had passed into David's hands long ago, perhaps as soon as David entered the banking business. Nelson's aims were always to be the top politician as opposed to David's more astute behind-the-scenes manipulations. As Governor of NY and a perennial presidential candidate who never got onto the ticket, Rocky was never quite as successful in power play as David. On 20/11/99 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've never been able to figure out what exactly Rockefeller's role was. AFAIK, Ford never consulted him on anything; the only significant contribution he made was to chair the commission that catalogued the assorted emergency declarations going back to Lincoln. My sense is that while Nelson Rockefeller was indeed an Oligarch, his power was waning by that time; within the family, authority was passing to David and Jay, and the vice presidency was almost one last sinecure for the patriarch, so close to the office he had sought for so long and which had always eluded him. Besides, by that time, power within the Oligarchy (or perhaps that should be "Oilgarchy") was shifting to George Bush the First, who even then epitomized the permanent government... (See Trevanian's *Shibumi* for some trenchant comments on the role of Big Oil in "public affairs.") -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 19, 1999 5:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Carter's Hostage Rescue "Failure" -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-11-18 12:01:43 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Intriguing. But my point about an Oligarch actually running the country directly is still, I think, accurate...Nixon hardly qualified as a member of the Oligarchy, even though he might have liked to think of himself that way. He was recruited, guided, and controlled every step of the way. True, not an "oligarch." Now, how about "vice president" Nelson Rockefeller? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] y2k deception
-Caveat Lector- http://www.y2k-news.co.uk/klimaxnews/238.htm This is a bit worrying about y2k. They may be springing something on you guys on Jan 1st.There is a newsletter you can subscribe to. This guy is refusing to say anything else about y2k because he says nobody can change it. Its really strange how all the y2k newsletters I was getting all stopped dead at once. Maybe they were threatened. Wonder what will happen first - stock market crash? gun confiscation? another meteor?, hologram trickery? I heard on the news here in NZ that we were 94% y2k compliant around the country for essential services etc. Today I heard again from a gas station attendant that the pumps won't work on Jan 1st. Heard that one before from a govt employee previously as well. May be a good idea to fill the car and store a bit extra, though I have heard bad news about the Middle East for y2k compliancy for oil wells.. Nicky 23/11 - Y2K Newswire "staying silent" A leading American Y2K news site has closed its doors on Y2K until January 1. Y2K Newswire editor Mike Adams made the astonishing announcement in an email sent out to subscribers to the Y2K Newswire email alert earlier today. In it he says: "As you probably know by now, we've unveiled a unique strategy for the last forty days: staying silent." The email refers readers to the Y2K Newswire site for a full explanation. The site has "an important message" from Mr Adams which says: "Due primarily to the fact that our federal government and mainstream press have now succeeded in setting up the American public for a costly, last-minute Y2K panic, I have decided to cease the publication of public articles on Y2K until January 1. "I have reached this decision following two weeks of nearly torturous consideration on the subject. "My decision to cease the publication of public articles on Y2K Newswire stems, in part, from a deep consideration of these facts: "Fact: My original goal was to tell people the truth about Y2K while there was enough time remaining to do something about it. "That time remaining is now nearly gone. Events cannot now be altered in any meaningful way. "Fact: The United States government has encouraged people to avoid preparing for Y2K. "This has left them defenseless against potential Y2K disruptions. "Fact: The mainstream press has largely refused to investigate this problem, increasing the severity of public complacency. "Fact: The American public has largely refused to prepare for Y2K, preferring to believe the spin rather than investigate, for themselves, the truth about Y2K. "Fact: Some of our political leaders have pre-blamed the public for any Y2K problems that appear. "This is clearly a strategy designed to deflect blame from those who actually caused the problems. "Most important fact: Americans always panic in the final moments before any coming crisis for which they are not prepared, whether it be a hurricane, war, or - I believe - Y2K. "When this happens, officials are going to look for someone to blame. They will never take responsibility for the situation they have caused. "Instead, they will attempt to blame the only people who actually tried to prevent the problem: the Internet Y2K skeptics and those people who took action to prepare. "As a result of this situation, with the final days approaching, I realise there is a small, but real, possibility that my articles - if misinterpreted by the public or intentionally misused by the press - could be partially blamed for any last-minute panic. "Due to this potential dynamic, I am removing myself from the issue until after December 31, 1999." Mr Adams stressed the decision to cease publishing Y2K stories was his own. "With such an announcement, questions will certainly come to mind: have I been forced into halting the publication of the truth? Have I been "bought off" by some government conspiracy? "The answers to both questions are, "No." I have not been contacted by anyone threatening me to shut down the site. Nobody has paid me anything to go off the air until January 1. "I do, however, consider the aggressive hate-speech coming from this administration - aimed at those who have chosen to prepare for Y2K - to be a threat. "Not only to me personally, but to the entire nation. "The campaign that has been waged to transform common sense, risk-reducing actions (such as storing food or water) into "radical," "extremist acts" runs counter to all wisdom. "A prepared America is a strong, better, healthier and happier America. This is apparently not the America our current administration wants. "They want an unprepared America. And that's exactly what they got." Mr Adams plans to make a comeback in January. "After the January 1 rollover, I will restart the publication of public articles, commenting on the events that have, by that time, unfolded," he says in his farewell. DECLARATION
[CTRL] WTO assists Gerber in subverting Guatemalan laws to protect babies from predatory marketing
-Caveat Lector- WTO assists Gerber in subverting Guatemalan laws to protect babies from predatory marketing Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave CORPORATE RIGHTS VS. HUMAN NEED For many years, the potential market for baby foods and infant formula in the "developed" countries has been shrinking because birth rates have declined. Therefore, to create new demand for their products, baby food corporations have aggressively sought to "open new markets" in the Third World. A key vehicle for "opening new markets" is advertising intended to convince women that breast-feeding their babies isn't "modern" and bottle feeding is healthier. Of course the premise of such advertising is medically false -- breast-feeding provides superior benefits compared to all synthetic substitutes. (Breast-feeding provides an infant with significant immunity against disease; it creates a strong emotional bond between mother and child; it helps prevent breast cancer in the mother, and more.) Nevertheless, many women are taken in by the false advertising; as a result, according to the United Nations Children's Fund (UNICEF), only 44% of infants in the Third World are breast-fed. (The proportion is even smaller in "developed" countries.) Chiefly because of this false advertising, according to UNICEF, 1.5 million infants die each year because their mothers unwittingly prepare infant formula with contaminated water, causing fatal diarrhea. During the 1970s, a world-wide grass-roots campaign focused attention on this problem, boycotting products made by Nestle, a major manufacturer of infant formula. Partly because of the Nestle boycott, the World Health Organization (WHO) developed and published a Code on Marketing of Breast-Milk Substitutes. The WHO code prohibits words like "humanized breastmilk" and "equivalent to breastmilk." Furthermore, to protect illiterate women from being duped, the WHO code prohibits pictures on labels "that idealize the use of bottle feeding." In 1983, Guatemala passed a law and regulations incorporating the WHO code. The goal of the Guatemalan government was to encourage new mothers (1) to breast-feed their infants and (2) to fully understand the threats to their babies of using infant formula as a substitute for breast milk. The Guatemalan law prohibited the use of labels that associated infant formula with a healthy, chubby baby; specifically, the law prohibited pictures of idealized babies on packages of baby food intended for children younger than 2 years. Furthermore, the Guatemalan law required labels to carry a statement that breast-feeding is nutritionally superior. The law also prohibited baby food manufacturers from providing free samples of their products (if a baby starts taking free samples the mother stops lactating, thus converting mother and infant into full-time, paying customers). And finally the law prohibited baby food manufacturers from directly marketing their products to young mothers in the hospital. The regulations went into effect in 1988 and all domestic and foreign manufacturers of baby foods -- with one notable exception -- came into compliance. Infant deaths attributable to bottle feeding declined, and UNICEF began highlighting Guatemala as a model for what works. However, the U.S. baby food manufacturer, Gerber (motto: "Babies Are Our Business"), objected to Guatemala's new law. Although the Guatemalan Ministry of Health made numerous attempts to negotiate with Gerber, the company reportedly continued to market its infant formula directly to mothers in the hospital, and continued to give free samples to doctors and day care centers. Most importantly Gerber refused to remove its trademark picture of a chubby, smiling baby from its product labels, and it refused to add a phrase saying breast milk was superior. In sum, Gerber thumbed its nose at Guatemalan health authorities, who were trying to protect their most vulnerable citizens, infants, against harm. In November, 1993 -- ten years after Guatemala passed its law, and five years after its regulations went into effect -- Gerber lost its final appeal. A Guatemalan Administrative Tribunal ruled in favor of the Ministry of Health and it looked as though even Gerber would have to comply with the Guatemalan law. But Gerber opened a new line of attack on Guatemala, arguing that the Guatemalan law was illegal under international statutes because the law was really an "expropriation of Gerber's trademark." This tactic bought Gerber some time while the World Trade Organization was being created. Then in 1995, when the WTO came into being, Gerber dropped its claim about illegal expropriation of its trademark and began threatening to challenge Guatemala before a WTO tribunal. Within a short time, Guatemala realized it was now up against immense power and the Guatemalan government changed its law to allow Gerber to have its way. Gerber won without ever having to formally request that the U.S. take its case
[CTRL] The Hierarchy of the Illuminati
-Caveat Lector- http://mercury.spaceports.com/~persewen/elite.htm THE HIERARCHY OF THE ILLUMINATI THE INNER CORE: (revised May 2 1999. Revision in this font color) [david_rockefeller.jpg] Czar: David Rockefeller [The above person is identified from so many reliable sources, that his role in the game must be considered to be established. The rest of the members of the "Inner Core" are, and probably will be, most difficult to verify. However, they are members of the super-rich, super- powerful families of the world, and they all stand above the law and shun public exposure. Most of them will never appear on the lists of the world's richest people, like Forbes magazine etc.] What is known though, is the number of members and their nationalities. All together, the Inner core of the Illuminati consists of ten members from the following countries: USA - 2 members Canada - one member France - three members Austria - one member Great Britain - one member Spain - one member South Africa - one member *) Interesting also is a quote from the Holy Bible, Revelation 13:1, when it comes to the Illuminati and the number of people in the inner core: 13.1 "Ten horns" represent ten minor kings (17.12) ... ... Antichrist is the beast as well as the seventh head. 12.3 reads: "Upon his heads seven diadems"; and the next chapter says: "On his horns ten diadems" (13.1). Antichrist in the days to come will arise from the revived Roman Empire so as to gain control over Europe. According to the historical narration the ten kings alluded to in 12.3 are not yet crowned, nor do they have authority. But after these ten kings are crowned and receive authority they will crown the beast. And thus Antichrist gains authority at that very time. "Blasphemy"ùWhatever exalts oneself and abases God is blasphemy (see Matt. 9.3, 26.65; John 5.18, 10.33; Mark 3.28; Rev. 16.21). "Upon his heads names of blasphemy"ùIt means that these heads call themselves gods. History informs us that the first five Caesars in the Roman Empire demanded the people to worship them as gods." THE INNER RING: Allaire, Paul Arthur (Xerox Corp) Allison, Graham Tillery, Jr. (Center for National Policy U.S) Andreas, Dwayne Orville (Archer Daniels Midland Co) Bartley, Robert Leroy (Wall Street Journal) Bergsten, C. Fred (Inst. for Int. Econ. U.S.) Bowie, Robert R. (Overseas Development Council) Brademas, John (Texaco) Brzezinski, Zbigniew (Center for Strategic International studies) Clinton, William Jefferson (President of the United States) Cooper, Richard N. (Professor at Harvard University) Corrigan, E. Gerald (Goldman Sachs) Davis, Lynn E. (Under Secretary State Dep. U.S.) Friedman, Stephen James (Co-chairman Goldman Sachs Co.) Friedman, Thomas L. (Columnist New York Times) Foley, Thomas Stephen (House of Representatives U.S.) Gregen, David R. (Special assistant to President Clinton) Graham, Katharine (Chairman Washington Post) Greenberg, Maurice R. (Dep. Chairman Fed, N.Y.) Hesburgh, Theodore Martin (Fmr. President of the University of Notre Dame) Hewitt, William Alexander (Ambassador Jamaica) Holbrooke, Richard C. (US Ambassador, peace negotiator) Jordan, Vernon Eulion, Jr. (Brookings Institute) Kissinger, Henry Alfred (Fmr. Secretary of States U.S., Kissinger Associates) Lord, Winston (Assistant Secretary State Dep. U.S.) McCracken, Paul Winston (Fmr. Professor University of Michigan) McNamara, Robert Strange (World Bank) Mondale, Walter Fritz (US Ambassador) Nye, Joseph S., Jr. (Chairman National Intelligence
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Mail Delivery Problem
-Caveat Lector- It isnt a problem here, because OS2 dont run WinSofts without convert it, I posted graphics it is secure how a bird. :) On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 05:53:00 -0800, Tenorlove wrote: Also, email viruses are most likely transmitted through attachments. Opening attachments from unknown sources, and without first scanning them (my browsers are set up to do this automatically) is the cyber-equivalent of "unsafe sex." That few extra seconds it takes to scan something could save you hours of rebuilding your system. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] RESEARCHER CALLS FOR EXHUMATION OF JFK'S BODY:
-Caveat Lector- How many of you have gone to this site? I tried to get on this morning and found a blank page. Paranoid or just a technical glitch? Mr. Morningstar's work is cited in "Assassination Science", edited by Professor James Fetzer of the University of Minnesota, Duluth. RDM's other works are also published extensively throughout the Internet. Some can be easily found at "www.JFKResearch.com". DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Who Benefits From Y2K Paranoia?
-Caveat Lector- Friday November 26 12:58 AM ET Y2K Food Stockpiling May Inflate Q4 Sales By Emily Kaiser CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. food companies may see a spike in fourth quarter sales if consumers load up on canned goods amid concerns of Y2K-related disruptions to the food supply, but the stockpiling could curb first quarter revenues. Food industry analysts said companies that make products with longer shelf lives such as soup or canned foods would be most affected if consumers step up purchases ahead of the New Year's holiday and then cut back in January. However, the short-term increase probably will not boost full-year sales. ``I think it's a good-news, bad-news scenario,'' said Patrick Schumann, food industry analyst with Edward Jones. ''Whatever they sell more of now, they're going to sell less of later.'' John O'Neil, a food industry analyst with PaineWebber, said it was not clear whether consumer demand would be the primary force behind the increased sales, or if grocery stores would stock up in case of other potential snags such as logistical problems around the first of the year. ``I think there will be a little bit of shifting out of January and into December,'' he said. ``There are two issues. There is the consumer behavior, which may or may not be too big. Then there is the retailer, who may build inventories. Either way, it's still a zero-sum game.'' Trade groups and food companies say they are prepared for the so-called Y2K bug, which refers to older computers that used just two digits to designate the year in a date, possibly causing them to confuse the year 2000 with 1900. The biggest worry is that consumers might empty shelves of canned goods in the next few weeks. Several food companies said they are seeing heavier-than-normal sales, although they don't recommend that people load up on food ahead of the New Year's holiday. ``We've seen some pretty good sell into the trade and you can probably attribute part of that to Y2K,'' said John Faulkner, a spokesman for Campbell Soup Co. (NYSE:CPB - news). He said the company had received requests from large-volume club stores for more 12-packs of soup, a request Campbell has attributed to Y2K-related buying. Hormel Foods Corp. (NYSE:HRL - news) the maker of Spam luncheon meats and Dinty Moore stews, said on Tuesday it was seeing signs of ''Y2K-related pantry inventory build-up'' which helped boost fiscal fourth quarter profits. George Dahlman, a food industry analyst with U.S. Bancorp Piper Jaffray, said such stockpiling could lead to some weakness in January if consumers are stuck with full cabinets. ``We still have a nagging worry about how much of this (strength in Hormel's earnings) is Y2K,'' Dahlman said. ``I don't think it was more than a couple of pennies (per share), but we're dragging the first quarter (earnings estimates) down a little bit just to be on the safe side.'' Canned fruit and vegetable maker Del Monte Foods Co. (NYSE:DLM - news) said in October it expected sales in the December quarter to be 1 million to 2 million cases higher than normal due to buying ahead of the Year 2000 changeover. The Grocery Manufacturers of America, a trade group that represents food companies, said its surveys show most consumers are not worried about Y2K-related food shortages and do not plan to stock up. However, Lisa McCue, a spokeswoman for the trade group, said that remained a hot topic of discussion for grocery stores and food makers. ``How do you gauge how consumers are going to respond to this?'' she said. ``There is no precedent for it. We are recommending that consumers use common sense, that they shop as they would for any holiday weekend.'' DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #1
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991126a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * Please DO NOT include the entire bulletin when you reply; Cut/Paste, eh? * No cultists were buried to produce this bulletin. Maybe they should be. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ DEATH TO PIKACHU! http://www.mustbedestroyed.com/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # New Buddhist Sect Worries Traditionalists - mass movement caters to Thai middle class. PATHUM THANI, Thailand -- The sheer psychic power of 30,000 people meditating together can make miracles happen, say monks at the HQ of Thailand's biggest, richest and - to the established priesthood - most dangerous new Buddhist sect. www.seattlep-i.com:80/national/thai25.shtml : Do you make miracles happen? Would they happen anyway? Does your belief system threaten established authority? If you can make miracles happen, why don't you just make the establishment accept you? Must you be persecuted? # HOW TO PASS A DRIVING TEST: Items people have brought along to help them pass their driving test in London? Lucky charms including red bras and religious relics, having 'lucky' people sit in the back seat, and a rear seat guru chanting a lucky mantra (survey by British Automobile Ass'n). _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Dad Jailed For Contempt - Sect Buried Sons? (ATTLEBORO, MA) The father of two missing boys was jailed for contempt of court after refusing to tell a judge where his 10-month-old son is. Cops think Jacques Robidoux' infant son Samuel and a newborn boy are both dead, buried in Baxter State Park by members of their parents' religious sect. Two dozen members of the sect, which does NOT believe in modern medical care, have visited Baxter during the past two months. But a search in a remote area of the park where the sect held their retreats has NOT turned up any bodies. They've gone to live with Jesus: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991124/04/me-state-news-3 Previous story: http://news.excite.com/news/r/991122/03/me-state-news-1 : Does your sect eschew heathen medicine for members, kids, visitors? Do y'r deities take many from among you? Are they willing sacrifices? Will you die for your beliefs? Soon? Will others die for your beliefs? Is it divine will? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Children removed in raids on cult. Tokyo: Japan's police removed children from the bizarre Life Space cult, whose members kept a mummified body at an airport hotel and insisted it was alive. With tolerance for such groups already sapped by the 1995 gas attack on Tokyo's subway by the Aum Supreme Truth doomsday cult, police launched multiple raids, taking nine children into protection. http://www.smh.com.au:80/news/9911/25/text/world8.html : Is death just another phase of life? Is it so hard for outsiders to under- stand that? Are you persecuted because of y'r deep understanding of reality? @ Pioneering academic defense of Wicca (and) Moby-Dick revisionism wars: www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/Thursday-Times/timbooboo01010.html?1334425 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Peruvians Wallow in 'Miraculous Mud' Touched by Space Aliens. CHILCA, Peru (AP) Many ailing Peruvians visit Chilca, a dusty desert town on the Pacific coast 40 miles SE of Lima. They come to mud-wallow in 3 small ponds said to have healing powers. But these mud baths are different: locals claim their miraculous powers are brought by alien space ships. "Lots of people claim to have seen UFOs and strange lights in the night sky over Chilca. People here believe in UFOs" sez the mayor. Visitors to Chilca are greeted by signs proclaiming the town as "The Preferred Site for Interplanetary Ships and Beings." http://sltrib.com:80/1999/nov/11251999/nation_w/326.htm : Where's your favorite miracle mud, holy hotspring, sacred spa? Do aliens, deities, spirits, robots like to empower dirt/water/mud in your vicinity? Do you see many paranormal entities as you wallow in the mud? D'ya inhale dust? @ IS MY PRIEST HANDING OUT HERPES WITH THE HOSTS? There have actually been studies about how priests handle the Eucharist cup. There are germs there - but herpes is so common, it's nearly impossible to avoid. Infectious faith: http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14268 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ DREAM MACHINES. Most of the machines Id invent the Life Compass, the Emotion Scan, the Physique Dial, the Chutzpah Device already exist in less garish form; writing about how much I wish they existed ignores how much they already do. There is one thing, however. MACHINE THAT ONCE only once in your life, allowed you to send a letter to the past. One that you were able to address to only one person: your teenage self. As if you'd listen... http://www.msnbc.com:80/news/338846.asp?cp1=1 @ Is General Motors ready to build UFOs? -- Detroit
[CTRL] GM food - N.D. Grazing - Sierra Club - FedGov
-Caveat Lector- North Dakota Grass Land Grazing - Sierra Club - Federal Government dead line extended till January The Grazing of cattle on Federal Lands IF there are no more cattle grazing on these lands then before, why is the buffalo grass shorter? If grass is not grazed doesn't it eventually die create a mat, and then there are grass fires? Are they using chemicals on these cattle that kill the bacteria that allows this area to be organic? Organic yields are proving to be higher. If the grass is shorter is the Government using this as a reason to keep the farmers from finding out that the chemical companies are hurting them? Example: Monsanto and Genetic Modification. The Pied Piper 26Nov1999 -- Any person can stand adversity, The true test is to give a person power. If you treat a relationship as if you are the only one in it, eventually you will be. Atrocities happen when the people about you - start considering you surplus. "I tolerate with the utmost latitude the right of others to differ from me in opinion" Thomas Jefferson My Grandfather told me there are two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to be in the first group - there is less competition there. - Indira Gandhi http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/~index.htm ICQ 14484977 NEW http://freeweb.digiweb.com/science_fiction/ThePiedPiper/site_map.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] MP's kill civilian speeder off post
-Caveat Lector- http://www.fayettevillenc.com/foto/news/content/1999/tx99nov/n26stop.htm Friday, November 26, 1999 One killed in MPs traffic stop By Lora Hines Staff writer A man was shot to death Thursday when he pointed a gun at military police during a traffic stop, said Cuyler Windham, chief deputy for the Cumberland County Sheriffs Office. The man has not been identified. He was a passenger in a car that MPs stopped on McArthur Road. The driver and two children in the car were not hurt. We dont know what happened to the passenger, Windham said. He just came out of there with a weapon. The incident started about 12:30 p.m. on Fort Bragg and ended just past the posts border minutes later. An MP operating radar on McArthur Road noticed that a car, a 1989 Buick Regal, was speeding. The MP followed the car until it pulled off the road about 900 feet off post, Windham said. The MP walked toward Joshua Spanns car and saw a handgun on the dashboard, Windham said. The driver said, Theres a gun up here, but its legal, Windham said. The MP returned to his car and called for assistance because Spann was being uncooperative, said sheriffs Capt. Freddy Johnson. The situation still was under control, Johnson said. Two other MPs arrived, and the three MPs stood behind Spanns car, Windham said. Spann got out of his car to talk to the MPs and to see the radar reading that showed that he had been driving 78 mph in a 55-mph zone, Windham said. They were starting to write a ticket to the driver when the passenger got out with a weapon, Windham said. The passenger had grabbed the gun that had been on the dashboard, Windham said. Spann walked over to the passenger and the two fought until the passenger fired one or two shots, Windham said. The driver goes around to the front of the car, maybe to check on his children, Windham said. The passenger points the gun at the driver, supposedly to shoot at him. Then he turns and points directly with a gun on the MPs. They told him to drop the weapon. At least one MP fired a shot at the passenger, killing him. Windham declined to identify the MPs. From what we know, it doesnt appear that the MP overreacted, Windham said. About a dozen detectives, including all five homicide investigators from the Sheriffs Office, spent hours collecting evidence and interviewing witnesses. Residents who live off McArthur Road got as close as they could to try to see anything. Anna Trescastro was at her brothers home for Thanksgiving dinner when she heard a shot fired.
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991126b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * Please DO NOT include the entire bulletin when you reply; Cut/Paste, eh? * Time did not run backwards during production of this bulletin, did it? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ 10 Turkeys: http://1.digital.cnet.com/cgi-bin1/flo?x=doYgKhBuBwghBKuE _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # The Universe may contain regions where time runs backwards. THE Universe may contain regions where milk would stir itself out of coffee and eggs would un-break, sez a New York physicist. The idea that there may be regions where time runs backwards could explain invisible dark matter. This kind of matter, invoked by cosmologists to explain the movement of galaxies, could originate in a future contracting phase of the Universe. Grave-to-cradle security: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/991124/18/bo71.html : Do you prefer time to run forwards, backwards, sideways, upside-down, in a spiral, or random jig-jags? Have you designed/built/used time machines that explore each possible geometry? Where do you end up? DO you end up? Is there an end, beginning, midpoint? Is time a probabilistic cloud, temporal fog?? @ New history of quantum physics - 100 years that shook the world: http://www.newscientist.com/ns/19991127/goldencent.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Earth to E.T. -- let us know what's out there. In the demon-haunted world of the Middle Ages people were abducted by incubi and succubi; the spirit- haunted world of 19th century England the U.S. reported apparitions and ghosts. Now, we don't experience demons and spirits because our culture is captured by aliens. From Star Trek Star Wars to E.T. and The X-Files in our pop-culture, and from NASA's Search for ExtraTerrestrial Intelligence (SETI) program to the [alleged] Mars rock microbes, we live in an alien- haunted world. Yet evidence for alien existence is, well, nonexistent. http://herald.com:80/content/wed/entertainment/books/digdocs/088449.htm : Is your mind haunted by the current paradigm? Do you prefer older/newer paradigms? Have you invented any different brain-haunting paradigms? Will you share'em with us? Will they take over our minds? Will you take control? @ Science morality: http://sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/280/5367/1200 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # GAMMA RAY FINDING MAY OPEN NEW WINDOW ON UNIVERSE. NASA scientists say a new finding on the properties of gamma-ray bursts could open "a new window on the distant universe" and offer fresh insight into its beginnings - and perhaps its eventual demise. This could make it possible to determine the geometry of the universe throughout its various epochs, as well as when and where massive stars formed in its very early stages. 'A much better idea of where we came from:' http://cnn.com/TECH/space/9911/25/gamma.rays/ : Should windows be left open? Won't weather blow in? Do you really want to know when/how the universe will end? Would you rather be surprised? Can you take preventative measures? Should we keep the universe from ending? Would that be "tampering with Nature?" D'ya like to tamper with Nature? Is it fun? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Site catches term paper cheaters. BERKELEY, Calif. (AP) - If your idea of writing a college term paper is point-click-download, your worst nightmare may be http://www.plagiarism.org where your misdeeds will be exposed, for a fee: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562253076-78d # Train robber designs heist game. RIO DE JANEIRO, Brazil (AP) A new video game based on Britain's 1963 Great Train Robbery will be designed by an expert - Ronald Biggs, a fugitive who helped carry out the heist. Biggs fellow train robber Bruce Reynolds have signed on as design consultants - see http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562249718-cf1 # Cashier uses Palm Pilot in credit card scam. NEW YORK (AP) A Bloomingdale clerk's PDA was her partner in crime. After swiping a credit card through the store's credit card device, she'd swipe it again thru a card scanner attached to her Palm Pilot. The PDA "is capable of storing thousands of credit card numbers:" http://cnn.com/TECH/ptech/9911/24/creditcardscam.ap : What are the most creative ways to use computers to profit from crime? Do you profit from other peoples' crimes? Do other people profit from yours? Do voices in y'r head guide you to profitable crimes, or are you in it for fun? @ Feeble handwriting analysis of Bill Gates - ya can't analyze The Dark Lord, can you? http://www.myhandwriting.com/celebs/billgates2.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Quantum fuel for future computers - Research suggests how software market might change. (MSNBC) Imagine a world where software is computational fuel churned out by a processing plant and shipped down an
[CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #3
-Caveat Lector- SkeptiNews 991126c - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question * Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion. * Nothing contained here is ever endorsed for truth, accuracy, or meaning. * Please DO NOT include the entire bulletin when you reply; Cut/Paste, eh? * No talking angels were badly harmed during production of this bulletin. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ Dykes 2 Watch Out 4: http://washblade.com/forum/cartoons/dykes/991126a.htm _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Lectures Teach Talking With Angels. The Inner Peace Movement presents spiritual workshops that affirm efforts to communicate with angels. If you get the chills, it might be a message from an angel. Hot flashes too? http://www.al.com:80/news/birmingham/Nov1999/19-e310557b.html : Do angels, demons, deities, aliens, extradimensional entities talk to you? Do you talk back? Do you have meaningful dialogues? Do they send post cards, emails, gifts? Do they ever send contraband? Have you been caught with it?? # No date set for pope's visit to Iraq - Chaldean Catholics concerned: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562257152-161 @ " Ive run out of images, used up the erotic exploits of the gods." http://bostonreview.mit.edu:80/BR24.5/fischer.html _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # China puts 4 from sect on trial. SHANGHAI (AP) - Four followers of Falun Gong went on trial on charges of illegally publishing 50,000 books for the banned Chinese sect. As many as 2,000 sect members have been sent to labor camps. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562256945-410 : How many books has your sect published? Should you be enslaved for that? Are your sect members good laborers? Do you produce high-quality products? # Falun Gong's chief critic is no simple govt toady. BEIJING - The animosity between Sima Nan the FalunGong spiritual movement goes back a few years, ever since Sima, China's one-man cult-bashing machine, denounced the group as a fraud in 1995, and the group's leader predicted that Sima would go blind and be crippled. http://www.seattlep-i.com:80/national/pac222.shtml : Would you rather be persecuted by an ordinary govt toady or a special one? Who's your favorite govt toady? Are you a govt toady? Are you empowered??? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Ex-cop busted in alleged mosque plot. JERUSALEM (AP) - A retired Israeli police officer has been arrested on suspicion he threatened to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque compound; he was taken into custody and later hospitalized. The officer had retired early from the force due to health problems stem- ming from job-related "encounters with difficult incidents, terrorist acts and violent situations." So he's not a criminal, just sick, a victim, eh? See http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562256042-edb : Do fatigue, stress, job woes make the voices in your head louder, telling you to blow things up? Then it's not your fault, is it? Do you blame demons? # Mass graves found in East Timor - priests, others killed at church: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562265465-b78 # Austria investigating neo-Nazi group - Auf ein Arab fur Adolf: http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2562260475-9ed _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ @ HERBS DRUGS: NEVER MIX, NEVER WORRY. Herbs are potent powerful stuff - and some of them, if taken with certain prescription medications, can have dangerous side effects. Check this list to be sure you don't take a risky combo: http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14277 : What's your favorite plant product? Have you ever taken datura, peyote, or little white nodules growing on the roots of oak trees? Do you pick your own herbals? Do herbals interfere with your chemotherapy or your alien implant? @ MASSAGE ON THE WEB: http://www.lucifer.com/~sasha/massage.html $ INNER ART OF MEDITATION: http://shop.pbs.org/7NOIx5CMQU/products/A2301/ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # Alcohol brainwave - Alcoholism may be partly due to genetic make-up. (BBC) Children of alcoholics may be genetically predisposed to the condition, say researchers who have monitored the way their brains respond to drink. http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_535000/535479.stm (hic!) @ Links: Alcohol Concern: http://www.alcoholconcern.org.uk/ @ Alcohol abuse advice: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/gjl37/ @ Health Education Authority alcohol advice: http://www.wrecked.co.uk/ : Can/should/will humans be gene-modified to reduce/eliminate predilections for 'harmful' substances? Will we be rendered subhuman, mechanical, boring? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ # OF HUMAN BONDING: THE ROLE OF THE ORGASM HORMONE. Chemicals have a lot to do with our emotions - this study bears that out. It involves oxytocin, a hormone released during orgasm, and its role in human attachment and bonding. http://healthcentral.com/drdean/DeanFullTextTopics.cfm?ID=14276 @ EVER HAD A NASAL ORGASM? The nose
[CTRL] OEN 11/26/99
-Caveat Lector- Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Fin-de-siecle Plot to Blow Up Al Aqsa Mosque Israeli police officer arrested. JERUSALEM (Nov. 25) - A retired Israeli police officer has been arrested on suspicion he threatened to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque compound, police said Thursday. The man was taken into custody and later hospitalized, said police spokeswoman Linda Menuhin. She said the officer had retired early from the force due to health problems stemming from job-related ``encounters with difficult incidents, terrorist acts and violent situations.'' The man allegedly called Israel radio earlier this month and threatened to blow up the Al Aqsa Mosque compound, home to Islam's third-holiest shrine, Menuhin said. Judaism's most revered site, the Western Wall, runs alongside the compound. The ex-officer was arrested shortly after the call was placed, she said. With the approaching millennium, Israeli security forces are on heightened alert about possible attempts by religious fanatics to attack holy sites in Jerusalem. Earlier this year, Israel deported members of a Denver-based apocalyptic cult on suspicion they plotted to carry out attacks near holy sites. [For the real plot to blow up the Temple Mount, read the Jack Parsons Saga.] Associated Press, November 25, 1999 Single Currency ECB Defends the Euro But still can't get it up. Wim Duisenberg, president of the European Central Bank, is concerned that the euro's weakness against the dollar will damage public confidence in Europe's single currency. He told the FT he had received many letters from members of the public, particularly from Germany, expressing fears that their savings were at risk from the currency's weakness. Mr Duisenberg said the euro's weakness against the dollar did not matter greatly from an economic point of view, because it seemed unlikely to stoke serious inflationary pressures in the medium term. But he added: "[It] does give me some concern that a further movement in this direction would contribute to undermining the confidence in the euro of the public at large. Unjustified, but still it is a public perception." The euro has fallen this week to a four-month low of less than $1.02 to the dollar - which was its closing price in London yesterday - partly because of concerns about the economic problems facing Germany. Otmar Issing, the ECB's chief economist, said the euro was also "very much affected by new information about the strength of the US economy". Mr Duisenberg said: "The euro has strong potential ...I can discover no reason why the euro will weaken further." The public should judge the ECB not on the euro's exchange rate, but on whether the bank was achieving price stability in the euro-zone. Discussing the ECB's decision to raise interest rates earlier this month by 0.5 percentage points to 3 per cent, Mr Duisenberg said a minority on the bank's 17-member governing council had wanted an increase of only 0.25 points. The council tried to operate by consensus, but: "A consensus doesn't indicate in all cases that if there had been a vote, it would have been unanimous." The ECB intended to start publishing its economic forecasts for the euro-zone, ranging from inflation and real GDP to the 11-nation area's overall public deficit. Mr Duisenberg hinted that his own position as ECB president was important to maintaining confidence - so he was reluctant to signal at this stage that he would step down early under a compromise agreed with the French government. "I am aware that it may sound a bit bragging, but I do feel that in a large part of Euroland I have a great deal of confidence from the people. That imposes a rather heavy responsibility to keep on doing what I am doing," he said. Partly on account of his age - he is 64 - Mr Duisenberg is still thought to be willing to leave office without serving his full term. But he has made clear he wants to go with dignity and not before the introduction of euro banknotes and coins is completed in June 2002. The Financial Times, November 26, 1999 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.
[CTRL] Fwd: 990 Tail Explosion Invalidates Batoutty Suicide Fable
11.26.99 990 Tail Explosion Invalidates Batoutty Suicide Fable © 1999 NewsHawk® Inc. As reported, federal investigators of the Fl. 990 crash have confirmed the tail section of the jet was severely damaged by an explosion. Okay. Now place that in context with what IS known about the last few moments of the flight. The jet began a very rapid, steep but CONTROLLED dive while at 33,000 feet. After leveling out at 17,000 feet the engines were turned off. This IS a NECESSARY prerequisite to starting the engines up again after they've faltered--in this case due to the primary computer computer system glitch from the particle or pulse weapon initially directed at the craft. The jet began to climb again up to 24, 000 feet. To DO this, OBVIOUSLY the engines had to be turned back on, which can be achieved after the primary computer system OR the backup system has been booted. The explosion in the tail was positively NOT the first hostile act targeting the jet, otherwise the pilots would not have been able to control the craft to the extent they did, including initiating an ascent after leveling off. This confirmation of a tail-end explosion substantially corroborates the information made public by NewsHawk in our previous articles on the crash; in particular; "Fl 990--What WE Know But Gov't, Media Won't Say". That is, that the jet was hit TWICE, initially at 33,000 feet and again after it re-ascended to 24,000 feet, by a particle beam or (electromagnetic) pulse weapon; and THEN "finished off" with a missile to the tail section when it became apparent the pilots' excellent skills MIGHT enable them to pull the jet out of BIG trouble after the SECOND, likely more severe electromagnetic weapon strike. The pilots obviously WERE able to recover from the first mishap, and had begun to climb again to cruising altitude. The word is out as far as the Egyptian Government is concerned. At this very moment some of their top experts in electromagnetics are researching the effects of electromagnetic pulses and fields upon aircraft. They have become aware the truth regarding the crash and are determined to dig it out and force the full exposure/disclosure of same. To re-cap, the explosion which destroyed the tail section of EgyptAir Fl. 990 happened LATE in the entire series of events, NOT at the beginning. Therefore, the crew-members were initially responding to a hostile action of a different sort, exactly as we reported. The missile hit to the jet's tail was the coup de grace, and obviously a VERY desperate one at that. Those responsible for bringing down the jet have created a MASSIVE, immovable monstrosity of an international mess which Egypt for one is determined they will answer --and pay--for. © 1999 NewsHawk® Inc.
[CTRL] Fwd: Branded by the ALF
As British intelligence, for all intents and purposes, ran and operated the British Communist Party, one has to ask, who supplies the intelligence for, and, who is behind the "ALF", that makes them immune from prosecution and virtually a law unto themselves. Britain's "Football Hooligans" and the "ALF" have shown strong links to the Far Right, which in turn has links to Britain's intelligence Services Branded by the "ALF" By Daniel Foggo The investigative journalist who exposed 'Animal Liberation Front' terror tactics has been subjected to a horrifying revenge ordeal - taken captive and tortured with a branding iron. Graham Hall, whose documentary film Inside The ALF won top television awards, thought the kidnap gang were going to kill him. Instead they burned the initials ALF across his bare back. And last night the ALF's official spokesman Robin Webb issued a chilling warning to 43-year-old Mr Hall and any others who seek to undermine the organisation's increasingly widespread network of stop-at-nothing fanatics. He denied any knowledge of the attack on Mr. Hall but said: 'People who make a living in this way have to expect from time to time to take the consequences of their actions.' Mr Hall will be permanently scarred by the barbaric mutilation. Channel 4, which showed the film in a Dispatches programme which won this year's BALSA news journalism award and also a Royal Television Society award, has offered to pay for plastic surgery to help minimise the impact of the branded letters. Mr Hall, who works by secretly filming as he infiltrates iniquitous operations ranging from badger baiting to drug dealing, admits he has also been mentally scarred. 'Recovering from the psychological effect of this will take a long time,' he said last night. 'But I am determined to carry on my work.' Much of his work is directed against cruelty to animals but he was appalled at ALF tactics. Robin Webb told Mr Hall how to construct a bomb, while fellow member Gaynor Ford took him on a tour of sites she had targeted with terrorism. But to Mr Hall's surprise, police, who had hoped to use his video evidence to prosecute Webb, Ford and another man, David Hammond, quietly dropped the case. After his kidnap ordeal - his captors duped him into a meeting pretending they could identify a dog-fighting ring - his torturers warned him not to go to the police. 'I was told they would kill me if I did,' said Mr Hall. 'But I am making a statement because they cannot be allowed to get away with it.' Last night West Mercia Police confirmed they were investigating. Robin Webb denied any knowledge of the incident but criticised Mr Hall for his filming methods. 'What was filmed was heavily edited and very selectively,' he said. 'I told my lawyers that there was nothing in the unedited tapes that could be used against me in any way. I can't speak for Ford and Hammond. They are beyond the pale of the movement.' A Channel 4 spokesman said last night: 'Graham Hall is one of this country's leading investigative journalists, who has taken considerable risks to uncover corruption. 'His undercover work in the Dispatches programme, "Inside The ALF", was absolutely central in exposing the dangerous fanatics at the core of that organisation. 'We are horrified at the barbarous attack and are offering him whatever possible support.' .. Award-winning TV film maker kidnapped and tortured by animal rights fanatics By Daniel Foggo and Edward Hynds WHEN his name was announced as the winner of the BAFFA for best documentary, Graham Hall could afford a smile of quiet satisfaction. The award, the highest that British TV can bestow, was for his brilliant expose of the fanatics behind the Animal Liberation Front . . . the extremist group which eagerly resorts to violence and terror tactics in its mission to end all animal suffering. During months of painstaking covert filming, Hall had pieced together a shocking and compelling documentary, which blew the lid off the ALF. Members of the group were shown boasting of numerous bombings and arson attacks. And when the programme was broadcast 11 months ago as part of Channel 4's Dispatches series it sparked a storm of anger, fuelling the controversy raging then over jailed hungerstriker and ALF activist Barry Horne. So the BAFTA - and a second award courtesy of the Royal Television Society - seemed a just reward for Hall's efforts. What's more, it seemed that justice would take its course elsewhere after police said they were keen to seek the prosecution of the three key ALF activists in the documentary. But six months after those heady award ceremonies, Hall's life has changed suddenly and dramatically, leaving him horrifically scarred both mentally and physically. A fortnight ago he was stunned to hear that police had decided to take no action against the documentary's ALF protagonists,
Re: [CTRL] What Happens When Robots Smarter than Humans are Roami ng the Net?
-Caveat Lector- Hey, maybe THAT explains the knee-jerk responses from so many people on the list... Kris, we need to work up a Turing test for members of CTRL. Only the ones who are capable of thinking independently stay on, the robots get dumped... -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 9:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] What Happens When Robots Smarter than Humans are Roaming the Net? -Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 5:50 PM Subject: Re: Harvard and Notable Law Professor at Odds == English 101 won't survive the Internet as an exclusively human domain. In "Machine Psychology" I give various reasons to think that an English conversational program might have been tried out on the Internet already especially on the current affairs/new types of lists. Are you sure I am not a robot? FWP. http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology-EEL.htm DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE LAST RAMPAGE
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.dcia.com/rampage.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.dcia.com/rampage.html"http://www.dcia.com/ram page.html/A - THE LAST RAMPAGE By James W. Clarke. Professor of Journalism, UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA (The murder of Don Bolles was to be a package deal including the murder of Al Lizanetz, Kemper Marley's public relations manager of 23 years. My interview of Lizanetz is available on audio tape. In this interview, Lizanetz states that land fraud king pin, Ned Warren was Kemper Marley's agent. Lizanetz tells how Marley recruited Eugene Pulliam to come to Arizona to start the Arizona Republic Newspaper. Pulliam formed the Phoenix Forty and the rest is history --- organized crime history. Lizanetz details how Marley's United Liquor General Manager, Gene Hensley (none other than Senator John McCain's father-in-law) went to prison to protect Marley and was rewarded with a Budwieser distributorship now worth $60 million. B.Q. 8-15-1996) Chapter 6 Brothers and Cellmates 1976-1978 In Oct.1977, Raul Castro had resigned as governor of Arizona to become President Jimmy Carter's ambassador to Argentina. In the wake of the disturbing revelations of prison corruption and mismanagement and two consecutive years of inmate strikes and violence, the new governor, former Secretary of State Wesley Bolin, fired John J. Moran, the director of corrections, on Nov. 29, 1977, naming John B. McFarland as acting director. The decision was unpopular with the legislature. The person who should have been fired, many believed, was not the director but the warden. Had Moran been willing to fire Cardwell, Moran could have kept his job. It was obvious to everyone that Cardwell was incompetent, and some thought he was corrupt. But Moran's name, along with Cardwell's, had been linked to organized crime activities within the prison ---in particular, to the contract murder of inmate Tony Serra on Jan. 3rd, 1977. He also was numbered among a handful of recent murder victims in Maricopa County whose deaths were linked to organized crime. But Serra had been stabbed and bludgeoned to death in the prison license plate plant, whereas others had been shot or carbombed or had "committed suicide" in Phoenix. Tony Serra had been convicted on land fraud charges in 1974 and was serving an 8-to-10-year sentence. Before his conviction, he had been the sales manager for the Great Southwest Land and Cattle Company. The company was described by the Arizona Republic as "a crooked land firm believed by police to have been controlled by [Ned] Warren." Mafia figure Ned Warren, the paper said, was the "godfather of land swindlers." Four months before he was killed, Serra had been interviewed at the prison by attorney Atmore Baggot and a man named Richard Frost. Baggot and Frost were members of Congressman John Conlan's political campaign organization. Conlan was seeking the Republican nomination for a U.S. Senate seat vacated when Paul Fanin retired. Congressman Sam Steiger was opposing Conlan in the Sept. Republican primary. Baggot and Frost wanted to know about Steiger's rumored connections with Ned Warren, and Serra was a likely source of information. The race for the Republican senatorial nomination was a bitter struggle between two far-right-wing candidates competing for the same hardcore Arizona conservatives. Steiger, a transplanted city-boy from New York, liked to project the image of a hard-riding, often profane cowboy from rural Yavapai County, embodying a macho conception of the West. Conlan, in contrast, cultivated the image of a clean-living, churchgoing man: his west was the land of golf and tennis in Scottsdale. Despite their divergent styles and images, both were extremely conservative, but since neither candidate's political views were in question, both campaigns sought to make their opponent's integrity the major issue. As the election approached, their tactics became dirtier. Steiger's organization decided to challenge Conlan's moral purity and conspicuously displayed Conlan's born-again Christianity. A whispering campaign was launched, in which questions were raised about Conlan's sexual preferences. Conlan's people in turn, pursued the rumors about Steiger's real estate dealings with Ned Warren and other shady characters. At the time, Warren was appealing a 1975 conviction on two counts of extortion, and hardly a day passed without a story about him appearing in the Phoenix papers. Baggot and Frost believed that rumors of corruption could destroy Steiger in the final weeks before the primary. When they asked Serra, he told them that the rumors were true. Serra said he knew the whereabouts of missing real estate records that would further link Steiger to Warren in fraudulent land schemes. He told them that, following Warren's instructions, he had buried the incriminating evidence in the desert near Florence, after Maricopa County Attorney Moise Berger had lifted the records from the files in the
[CTRL] THE DEATH IN ARIZONA OF THE KEMPER MARLEY MACHINE
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.dcia.com/marley.html Click Here: A HREF="http://www.dcia.com/marley.html"http://www.dcia.com/marl ey.html/A - THE DEATH IN ARIZONA OF THE KEMPER MARLEY MACHINE by Brian Downing Quig MONETARY AND ECONOMIC REVIEW Kemper Marley was Arizona's first and only billionaire at the time of the Bolles murder. I expected the sky to fall after my July article linking the activities of Charles Keating and General Singlaub. Nothing happened. The reaction to my September article exposing Terry Burke, former top DEA in Arizona as a possible key element in the illegal narcotics network in Arizona, however, was immediate and unmistakable. Within days of my FAXing this story I was served with a court summons, a nasty death threat was left on my answering machine and my offices were entered, my files, book cases and furniture dumped and overturned. The last few days there has been a 6 foot 6 inch Latino following myself and an associate. He makes the top hit man for the Medellin cartel look like a sissy. Since Terry Burke, the former CIA station chief in Laos who administered the Phoenix Assassination Program has been closely associated with Theodore Shackley since 1962, this revelation coming in the wake of the unsolved Buddhist murders must have sent shock waves far and wide. Ted Shackley was George Bush's number 2 man at CIA when Bush was CIA Director. Among those in the know, Ted Shackley and an operative named Richard Armitage are the weakest points in the armor of George Bush and the New World Order. More significantly, I am tempted to speculate that this revelation, coupled with my suggestion of a probable heroin connection to the military style execution of the 9 Buddhist monks, lead to the panic arrest of five innocent Tucson kids for the murder of the monks. Supposedly, on the basis of a tip received Sept. 3 from a patient in a mental hospital, the deputies of Maricopa County Sheriff, Tom Agnos, arrested and charged four hispanic and one black youth, all selected from the poorest neighborhoods of Tucson. It was apparent from the start that this action was bogus. First, law enforcement alleged that these youths stole a late model Bronco and a Blazer that were seen at the Temple the day of the crime. These vehicles were never reported stolen! Where are these vehicles today? If these kids were in fact criminal elements, wouldn't they have driven these four wheeled all terrain vehicles across the border to Mexico where they would have been worth more than in the U.S.? They could have made a quick $15,000 doing this. I visited the Temple. It is more than obvious that there was nothing of value there. Rapidly the case against the kids began disintegrating. One suspect was working at a dog track during the murders and was video taped performing his duties. He had to be released. It soon became clear that there was no physical evidence linking the youths to the crime --- only their confessions confessions that the Dean of the Law School at ASU says can not be used in court because they were so obviously coerced. It turns out that the deputies worked on the youths for 12 hours in separate rooms with no windows --- no food or water --- in the midst of serious threats. One youth was told that he would be "found in a lake with an anchor wrapped around his neck if he did not cooperate". This precess took place not at polic e headquarters but in separate rooms of a hotel. The attorney for Dante Parker, said to be the ringleader, has submitted a list of 25 witnesses that say the suspect never left Tucson the night in question. The Thai ambassador "just happened to be in Phoenix" for the arrests. During one short sound byte he repeated three times that his being in Phoenix was just coincidence. His praise for Arizona law enforcement sounded a bit too lavish for the circumstances. All readers can be assured that the smiling Thai ambassador is no stranger to the politics of heroin in Southeast Asia. Equally as disingenuous was the statement of the Sheriff that there was no racism involved in the crime (but only in the selection process of the scapegoats.) When Lt. Col. James Bo Gritz returned to the Golden Triangle of Burma in 1987 to video tape the drug overlord, General Khun Sa, naming the names of the U.S. officials who were the general's largest customers for heroin, he was startled to find that a two lane highway had been constructed in the 5 months since he was last there. This highway, which went right to the general's front door, was built by the Thai government using Rome plows left over from the Vietnam war. Coming out, as the Colonel went in, were 10 ton trucks, covered and loaded, with the Thai Army insignia on the side. There is only one product that comes out of the Golden Triangle heroin! It is a certainty that the smiling Thai ambassador has an accounting of every truck. The importance of the discovery of this heroin highway lies in the fact that what
Re: [CTRL] M.L.King murder reinvestigated
-Caveat Lector- That Mannlicher Carcano is a *bolt-action* rifle, and even the best sharpshooter can't work the bolt fast enough to get off the number of rounds required by the "lone gunman" hypothesis. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 1999 10:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] M.L.King murder reinvestigated -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/24/99 4:13:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what else is new? I've read that the Mannlicher Carcano found in the Texas Book Depository which "lone gunman" Lee Harvey Oswald supposedly used to kill Kennedy had debris in its barrel (ask any skilled rifleman what that does) and that its scope was dusty and wobbly. The Marines had the entire armed services' most decorated sniper attempt to duplicate the miraculous sequence of shots that killed Kennedy. Even using a stationary rather than moving target, firing from the same angle at the same distance, the military's top sniper could not hit the designated target accurately beyond the first shot, although equalling "Oswald's" speed in firing several shots, each time resighting. Do those facts, plus Oswald's poor performance on the firing range while he was in the Marines, support our belief that JFK died from an "amateur" hit by a "lone gunman"? You're right of course. Incidentally the scope on the MC gun of Oswald fame was said to be so bad that the "experts" had to insert shims into it so that it would be even reasonably accurate. Additionally I am told that the weapon itself is of such low quality that no one would ever use it for anything (at least those who know guns). MLK's death and the detritus floating around about it are par for the course. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] What Happens When Robots Smarter than Humans are Roami ng the Net?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/26/99 10:23:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey, maybe THAT explains the knee-jerk responses from so many people on the list... Kris, we need to work up a Turing test for members of CTRL. Only the ones who are capable of thinking independently stay on, the robots get dumped... Robots are only as good as their programming, kinda like "people." Robots would be a superior step to simple monitoring. Could actually program disruptions and robot flame wars to incite and harden sides, create divisions, cointelpro tactics are definately textbook enough to program, and a team of operators could disrupt plenty of forums and funding could be acquired under the new "info war" ageis. The targeting teams psy make-up would have to be selected so as to inure problems of defection, because the exposure to the very infromation they are monitoring "corrupts" them. With the disruptions in information and in the "mind-control slave-project", that would seem to leave a dwindling supply of "team players", cults and zombified people blinded by greed and lusts for __ . The bankruptcy and corruption of the ruling elite is become more transparent everyday. The most enduring question is the US military. For they are the 'superior physical force' and no matter the position of the conspirators, whether they are running deepblack projects and hijacked projects from the US defense department, it still gets down to trigger fingers and physical control and SUBJUGATION of populations. I do not believe they truly have the means to "turn a switch" and make the population do as they want nor do they have the personnel needed to be fully operational. The culture continues to exceed the boundaries of the conspitorial framework and the fabians ship is sprouting leaks and life rafts. Will the call go out,"Everyman for themselfs'" and will the captain go down with the ship? Now is the time for all good men and women come to the aid of their country. Om k The spirit quickenings. Shake and bend like a willow tree. Don't just stand the crying for mercy But lend a hand and set us free. Om k - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Turkey Day
-Caveat Lector- Wild turkeys are anything but fat. They are big, canny, strong, aggressive birds, superbly camouflaged...a far cry from the inbred, stupid, overfat domestic variety. Franklin knew what he was talking about. Eagles are carrion-eaters and cowards, often stealing prey from other birds--hardly a fit image for a young revolutionary country. Why are eagles associated with war and conquest? Simple: as carrion eaters, they are to be found in large numbers, along with vultures, crows, ravens, and similar birds, on battlefields, feasting on the remains. Early warriors came to the conclusion that they came to carry away the souls of the dead, and so began to worship them as totems. "Where the body is found, there will the eagles be gathered." I'd much rather have Franklin's model for the Great Seal: on the obverse, a turkey; on the reverse, a picture of the Boston Tea Party, with the motto "Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God." -Original Message- From: Das GOAT [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:15 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Turkey Day -Caveat Lector- Now, on to our annual ritual sacrifice of the fat, stupid, noisy bird which, versus the bald eagle, was Ben Franklin's choice for the animal most symbolic of the American people. Chow down, bankers and politicians. (And what did you use for "stuffing" THIS year?) Gobble-gobble-gobble ... DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:574513"Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing/A - Subject: Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED] /A (Kansan1225) Date: Fri, 26 November 1999 12:53 PM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Those who know that JFK's murder was a Luciferian Masonic human sacrifice realize that Dallas was picked as the site of sacrifice because it is located close to the 33rd degree of north geographical latitude. Other cities close to this 33rd degree are: *** Tyre, Lebanon: Home of King Hiram and Hiram Abiff, the Dynamic Duo of Masonic mythology. *** Charleston, SC: The original site of Scottish Rite Masonry in the U.S. *** Phoenix, AZ: The mythical phoenix commits suicide to procreate. This mythical bird is the real bird of New Atlantis, a.k.a. the U.S.A.; it presently masquerades as the queer bald eagle. *** Warm Springs, GA: Site of Brother Franklin Delano Roosevelt's "sudden death" in April 1945. FDR was the previous President to be sacrificed in office, the one just before JFK, according to the 19-year Metonic cycle of the moon. During my investigations of the Oklahoma City bombing I was struck by the following "coincidences": !!! Waco, TX: Site of the Holocaust that supposedly triggered Timothy "Macbeth" McVeigh. It lies along U.S. Highway 77. !!! Junction City, KS: Town where McVeigh rented the bomb truck. It lies along U.S. Highway 77. !!! Herington, KS: Domicile of co-conspirator Terry Nichols. It lies along U.S. 77. !!! Geary State Fishing Lake (Geary County, KS): Site where the bomb was put together, according to the Government's case. It lies along U.S. 77. !!! Oklahoma City, OK: Site of the attack. It lies along U.S. 77. !!! Perry, OK: Site of the county jail where McVeigh was taken to after his original arrest. It lies along U.S. 77. These "coincidences" started me thinking about the number 77. Finally, I found this passage in the Bible: "And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah. 'Hear my voice: ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold." (Genesis, 4:23-24) This Lamech was a descendant of the first murderer, Cain, and father of the twins Tubal-Cain, a boy, and Naamah, a girl. Tubal-Cain, "an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron", is a favorite of Luciferian Free Masons, who consider him to be the forefather of Hiram Abiff. Hiram Abiff, of course, is the supposed architect of Solomon's Temple and the central hero of Masonic mythology. My further investigations added these "coincidences" to the above list: !!! Waco, TX: Site of the aforementioned Holocaust, it is also the site of the Masonic Grand Lodge of Texas. Waco is along U.S. 77. !!! Dallas, TX: Site of the JFK oblation. It also lies along U.S. 77. !!! Guthrie, OK. Site of the Masonic Grand Lodge of Oklahoma. It also lies along U.S. 77. !!! Lincoln, NE: Named for the sacrificed Abraham Lincoln, an earlier victim of the 19-year Metonic cycle of the moon. It also lies along U.S. 77. The above are just some of the sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing. For more information about the secret nature of Luciferian Masonry and satanic Zionism, please visit the "Dark Millennium" Web site at: A HREF="http://www.angelfire.com/wy/1000/index.html"http://www.angelfi re.com/wy/1000/index.html/A - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF
[CTRL] Cyber threats catch US spies on the hop
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:574454"Cyber threats catch US spies on the hop/A - Subject: Cyber threats catch US spies on the hop From: A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Fri, 26 November 1999 09:02 AM EST Message-id: 81m3tv$g1j$[EMAIL PROTECTED] November 26 1999The Times Cyber threats catch US spies on the hop FROM JAMES BONE IN NEW YORK The "information revolution" is overwhelming the eavesdropping capacity of the United States and may force a restructuring at the nation's largest spy agency, reports suggest. Informed sources told CNN that the 38,000-strong National Security Agency (NSA), which employs more than twice as many people as the Central Intelligence Agency, is considering a significant reorganisation to meet the demands of the Internet era. The NSA, based at Fort Meade outside Washington, is so secretive that its acronym is sometimes said to stand for "No Such Agency" or "Never Say Anything". Yet, equipped with the world's fastest supercomputers and working with allies such as Britain's GCHQ, it produces an estimated 80 per cent of America's intelligence. The growth of digital technology and sophisticated encryption, and the proliferation of threats since the collapse of the Soviet Union, is said to be stretching the agency's ability to keep track of communications around the world. At the same time, the transition from analog to digital phones, the prevalence of fax machines, and the increasing use of fibre optic cable, all make electronic eavesdropping more complex, as does the wider availability of encryption software that can be used by criminals and spies to encode their communications. The NSA recently became embroiled in controversy when an Ontario-based computer consultant claimed to have identified its secret backdoor - called "NSAKEY" - into Microsoft's Windows operating systems. Both the agency and Microsoft denied that it had special access to encrypted Windows files. Besides generating huge amounts of e-mail, the Internet has also created a mountain of publicly available information that the NSA must monitor - a labour-intensive task. The agency has recently had to resort to recruiting known hackers because of the shortage of computer security experts. Despite their anti-establishment bent, hackers have been offered a four-year college scholarship in return for working at the NSA during their holidays and spending at least five years there after graduation. But US officials caution that the country might not be ready for a sneak cyber-attack - sometimes known as an "electronic Pearl Harbour". There are fears that hackers around the world will mount a concerted assault on government and business computer systems at New Year to try to exploit the Y2K computer bug. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] History: Accident or Coincidence?
-Caveat Lector- See Barbara Tuchman, *The Zimmermann Telegram* for a fascinating account of how German stupidity and British conspiracy combined to force Wilson's hand and draw the United States into WW1... -Original Message- From: YnrChyldzWyld [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] History: Accident or Coincidence? -Caveat Lector- On Wed, 24 Nov 1999 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Each of them initiated American involvement in the four major wars of this century: World War I World War II, and the Korean and Vietnam conflicts. Bull. WWI had been going on for 4 years before the U.S. got involved, for more convoluted reasons than the personal desire of Wilson. Most people would argue that Hitler's invasion of various European countries and especially Japanese bombing of Pearl Harbor led to American involvement. And the U.S. first became involved in Vietnam during Eisenhower's administration, escalating during Kennedy's and Johnson's terms... snip DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Antigravity and the Advanced Physics of Joshua
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.stormloader.com/joshua/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.stormloader.com/joshua/"Antigravity and the Advanced Physics of Joshua /A - Hello friends, and welcome. My name is Joshua Gulick. I am a twenty-five year old theorist. My backgound is in the biological sciences, but I have been self-taught in cosmology and physics using available texts, supplemented with theories and research data culled from the internet. I thank God for the blessing which has allowed me to explore and find truths of physics. On this website you will explainations for many mysteries. I hope you enjoy my website and find it useful or at least though-provoking. I also hope that you will let me know your thoughts on these subjects. Breaking News 11/23/99 Okay, here's another new one. I figure out how to use gravity as a energy source. Yep. It's true. Check out the link for my gravity powered wheel. 11/18/99 I have finally finished my patent application and now have patent pending status. If you want to see pictures of my patent pending super-efficient light beam shaping and focusing system (with reflectors and reflectorless designs), please click on the link to the right. I have also determined my next quest and will share that with you after I do some calculations. I could use the help of a programmer. I need to do some calculations that are accurate to at least 100 or 200 decimal places. If you can help, please let me know. 11/3/99 Hi there, lately I have been working on a patent application, so I have not been able to do much deep thinking or experiments. However, I did get around to a little initial exploration of Phi-based resonances. The first offspring of this is my latest paper that explains nicely how our time periods of the hour, minute, and second were chosen. 1026/99 Wow, it has been over a month since I last updated my website. I appologize, but would like to explain that the reason was my involvement in a production of Shakespeare's "Twelfth Night" at the local college here. I was Duke Orsino. It took all of my time, but it is now over. And I have a treat for you. I hope it makes up for my absence. I have just added a new article on exactly how atomic transmutation works. You won't find information like this anywhere else. I figured it out two days ago while pacing back and forth behind the counters at work. I think better when I'm pacing, I guess. Make some gold... make whatever you want! Peace to you and God bless. 9/22/99 Pay no attention to the dour-looking picture that I have up of myself right now. I was in a bit of a mood when I put that up yesterday. Normally, I look quite happy and joyful. Will Talmadge did a bit of magnificent artwork. He created a graphic which shows the construction and repulsion field directions of a cigar-shaped craft. It is a must see. Visit this link to see the picture. I hope you all have great enjoyment and experience much wonder today. 9/21/99 Hello visitors to my webpage! I have figured out gravity and e-m and scalar wave creation... again! My explaination is more logical now, relying on pure stretching of space rather than an inability of waves to intersect. Check out "How Electro-magnetic Radiation is Born" and "What is Gravity?" I have also been working on setting up that research group/think tank. Five members already! I have also been doing a bit of inventing with regards to recreation equipment. I haven't followed up on the milk experiment, though. I should get to it soon. And the caduceus staff, too. Anyways, join the research group. It will be worth your while. 9/11/99 First the milk. It went a bit sourish between the sixth and seventh day under the pyramid. On the eighth day, I threw it out. So, my pyramid had a definite effect on the souring period. Better tests will follow. I received an e-mail from a fellow who said that milk is packaged in tetrahedric or octahedric packaging in what used to be Yugoslavia for this very purpose. So there! Can anyone confirm this? I'm now twenty-five. I'm still working on setting up the research group/ think tank. I will post what I have so far here. Please join us. That's right, there are already a few members! Perhaps this group will have a large effect and make its members lots of money. My message board was deleted. It was on a different server. It's a good time to start over anyways. I think some of you have a sense of humor. So, after some hesitation, I have decided to add a link to another site that I put up last Christmas. It was a present to my good friend, James. But, he didn't like that I gave him a cult for Christmas after people started calling him at all hours, so he gave it back to me. I hope you can take the joke. I lost my password for the server account a long time ago, and so I can't delete the site, or even update it. Uhh... there are some links on this site to even older sites of mine. I just though
[CTRL] CIA Conference
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:573449"CIA Conference/A - Subject: CIA Conference From: Ralph McGehee A HREF="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]"[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A Date: Tue, 23 November 1999 06:28 AM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --F6C7AB35C21DD8A2FFF155B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --F6C7AB35C21DD8A2FFF155B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="pollute" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="pollute" Polluting the Future Below is further commentary of the CIA's efforts again to prove that "it got it right" re the demise of the USSR. First, extracts from an article in the Washington Post, next, briefcommentary, and lastly, records from CIABASE files. CIA's failure to foresee the fall of the Soviet Union is an article of faith among agency bashers. CIA officials are hoping to lay it to rest during a three-day conference on "U.S. Intel and the End of the Cold War" at Texas AM U's Bush School of Government and Public Service. Lloyd D. Salvetti, director of CIA's Center for the Study of Intel, which is co-sponsoring the conference has a 378-page volume of 24 intelligence estimates on the USSR from 1988 to 1991--declassified for the conference. "The assertions that CIA got it blatantly wrong are unfounded," said Lloyd D. Salvetti, director of the CIA's Center for the Study of Intelligence, which is co-sponsoring the conference. The agency's evidence: a 378-page volume of 24 intelligence estimates on the Soviet Union from 1988 to 1991--declassified for the conference. Washington Post 11/19/99 A43. A CIA Soviet-Demise study on the accuracy of its intelligence was produced some time ago and was thoroughly discredited at that time. The study, dated 5/96, also by the CIA's Center for the Study of Intelligence is titled: "CIA Assessments of the Soviet Union: The Record Versus the Charges." It in part says "...highly sensitive intelligence analysis on the USSR has also been released...More than 450 National Intelligence Estimates on the USSR...have been sanitized and made available. Most were declassified in 1993 and 1994..." The CIA works overtime defending and propagandizing the past via domestic press operations, Hollywood films, Television programs, and scholastic forums. The CIA will never, can never, develop the expertise Tenet so vehemently and frequently exhorts until it ceases defending, rather than honestly examining its past. Tenet and others deceive themselves and us to augment their future. Is this important? Is developing anti-terrorist, anti-WMD, and anti-narcotics abilities important? Or is it all smoke and mirrors? Ralph McGehee A HREF="http://come.to/CIABASE"http://come.to/CIABASE/A Entries from CIABASE ussr, russia, east europe, 81-97 collapse of warsaw pact nations surprised u.s. policymakers. president bush had no idea berlin wall coming down and nsc adviser brent scowcroft could recall no CIA warning about the ussr demise. general powell, reagan's national security adviser said CIA analysts could not anticipate events better than a layman watching tv. former dci turner charges CIA missed by a mile and should not gloss over the enormity of this failure to forecast the magnitude of the soviet crisis. george shultz, the sos, said that "CIA analysis was distorted by strong views about policy" and accused casey of bum dope. (details). this part of deliberate effort by casey and gates to slant intel re the ussr. they used many methods to accomplish this. gates acknowledged casey on issue after issue presented intel framed on policy he wanted to pursue. gates and CIA were wrong on biggest intel issues of the cold war: the strength of the ussr and the intentions of its leaders. foreign policy 3/97 129-30 ussr, 85-90 cia's day-to-day political reporting on the soviet union was accurate, but limited by no inside sources. we did not get a broader perspective. inside cia's analytical office there was a growing concern that the downward spiraling ussr economy could not sustain military programs. lack of communication between economists and military experts seemed hopeless. head of that office, was doug maceachin. top officials viewed gates as an advocate that nothing of consequence was happening - i was uneasy with our analysis - however i might defend it externally. i funded a group of outside experts headed by harry rowen that was critical of cia's statistical portrayal of the ussr economy. the effect [of all the events in 89] were unforeseen by the CIA. the CIA had no idea in january 89 that a tidal wave of history re the ussr was about to happen. gates, r. (1996). from the shadows 386-7,439-49 60-93 u.s. has been surprised
[CTRL] Cayce readings database...
-Caveat Lector- from:alt.conspiracy As, always, Caveat Lector Om K - Click Here: A HREF="aol://5863:126/alt.conspiracy:572320"Cayce readings database.../A - Subject: Cayce readings database... From: wq A HREF="mailto:Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]"Use-Author-Address -Header@[127.1]/A Date: Fri, 19 November 1999 11:55 PM EST Message-id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A HREF="http://www.astrologer.ru/EdgarCayce"http://www.astrologer.ru/ EdgarCayce/A Happy earthchanges, Daniel J Min- - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: David Icke responds to a letter in Nexus magazine
In reply to a "Letters to the Editor" from one Ivan Fraser, who, among other things, claimed to have edited David's new book, "The Biggest Secret", appeared the following letter and reply from David Icke to Nexus magazine. And a reply from Duncan Roads the editor follows. ... From: Nexus [Magazine] Vol.7, No:1, Dec. '99 - Jan. 2000. Shapeshifting Claims: Dear NEXUS: I am reluctant to interrupt this gathering of the Sir Laurence Gardner Appreciation Society, but I'm afraid that, in the interests of accuracy, I am compelled to do so, albeit for only a moment. Ivan Fraser claims in your Letters to the Editor last issue that he "edited" my book, The Biggest Secret... Mr Fraser was merely employed to proofread The Biggest Secret for typing and spelling errors... [I removed several paragraphs of unnecessary personal slander about Ivan at this point. Ed.] He says that his "own research" is in line with that of Sir Laurence Gardner, documenter of Star Fire blood-drinking rituals and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon, which is fronted by those who claim ancestry from the "dragon" "royal" bloodlines - the bloodlines, I would suggest, which were seeded by the reptilian Anunnaki. But, astonishing as this may be to Mr Fraser, the fact that both he and Sir Laurence Gardner say the same things is no confirmation whatsoever that their research is true and accurate. I note with interest that Sir Laurence ridicules the idea that those of the "dragon" bloodlines, as he calls them, are actually reptilian crossbreeds and sometimes shapeshifters. He notes how such stories were rife in the ancient world, but says it is "difficult to comprehend in these more levelheaded times " that " anyone believed such nonsense". Well, unfortunately, Sir Laurence, endless numbers of people all over the world are having the same experience today of seeing those of the "dragon" bloodlines shapeshift, just like the ancients did, and what I find hard to comprehend is how you can be so astonishingly ignorant of this. If, indeed, you really are. I further find it difficult to perceive that the obvious diversion and smokescreen about these bloodlines coming from "Jesus" can go on being promoted by a man who claims expertise in history and genealogy. Or how anyone who does the most minimal research into the existence of "Jesus" could believe such claptrap. Sir Laurence dismisses the idea of shapeshifting reptilians as ridiculous, despite the endless ancient and modern accounts, while, at the same time, asking us to believe that fictional characters like Jesus and Mary Magdalene (creations of the Roman Piso family) could seed bloodlines. Are we now to believe, Sir Laurence, that Jack and Jill, Snow White and Cinderella also seeded bloodlines, which should today be considered worthy of royal title? Should someone not launch a Royal Court of the Tom and Jerry? Mr Fraser and others also constantly attack Arizona Wilder without ever bothering to research her background in any way. Arizona, whose Illuminati code name was, interestingly, "Star Fire" - after the blood-drinking rituals she conducted in a mind-controlled state - has more guts in her smallest digit than Mr Fraser and co. will have if they live to be a thousand. He, Sir Laurence Gardner, Duncan Roads and NEXUS can go on for as long as they like dismissing and ridiculing the existence of shapeshifting reptilians among the elite "Grail" bloodlines through which they operate, but if they only opened their eyes and minds (won't hold my breath) they would see the fantastic evidence to confirm that this bizarre story is true. That evidence is hurtling towards you like a runaway truck, and you are all going to have to eat so much humble pie you will need life membership of Weight Watchers. David Icke, Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, UK [Dear David: I am still waiting to see the 'fantastic evidence", or hear from any of the "endless numbers of people...seeing those of the 'dragon' bloodlines shapeshift". I also note that the only person doing the "attacking" at your website discussion areas is yourself Surely your "research" can stand up to a bit of well-meaning scrutiny, without your resorting to insulting those who seek further clarification of your claims. And finally, for the record, I would like to point out that I have no problem believing in the existence of shapeshifting reptilian aliens. I DO have a problem believing that Arizona Wilder (your star witness) saw Sir Lawrence Gardner and Zachariah Sitchin shapeshifting into reptilian aliens at some satanic ritual where she was the Illuminati High Priestess or whatever. That's all. Ed]
Re: [CTRL] FW: Independent Media Center at WTO
-Caveat Lector- I had no trouble accessing it. Was the error you got "Error 404"? That could mean any number of things, including transient Net conditions. Are you sure you entered the URL correctly? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 6:32 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] FW: Independent Media Center at WTO -Caveat Lector- On 24 Nov 99, at 4:58, Dave wrote: www.indymedia.org. I tried to go to this site and was told it was "forbidden"! sno0wl DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Seems No Better Than Placebo in Preventing Migraine
-Caveat Lector- I *have* studied homeopathy (not thoroughly, but enough to educate myself), and I am convinced that it works. It doesn't work all the time, for everyone, any more than allopathy ("orthodox" medicine) works all the time, for everyone. But it works often enough to demonstrate to my satisfaction that it's valid. I know for a fact that the only medication that will consistently relieve my arthritic hands is a homeopathic gel containing rhus toxicohedron, ledum palustre, and symphytum officianale, in a witch hazel base; and as for migraines, I've found a preparation containing iris versicolor to be very effective if I take it just when the headache begins (probably more effective than "mainstream" medications). I noted with interest that iris was NOT listed among the homeopathic remedies included in the literature review described in this article. As with anything, there is a large element of observer bias here; a believer will invariably get positive results, a skeptic will get ambiguous or negative results. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 9:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Homeopathy Seems No Better Than Placebo in Preventing Migraine -Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/25/99 4:32:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Professional skeptics are paid disinformation specialists. The most famous ones are "the amazing Randy" - a stage magician, and some fool named "Barrett" who is still trying to convince people that acupuncture is "quackery" Shannon is generally beneath notice, yet seems to take great delight in spreading old and tired disinformation about homeopathy... oh well... guess he's gotta earn a few extra bucks a day for his viagra. Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave I don't know if Homeopathy is any good or not, never having studied it at all, but I do believe that if people want to try it and some of them even "think" it is effective and it "works" for them then it is a BIG THUMBS UP from me! As fo the "Amazing Randi", he is much as you describe him and a total waste of space besides, who spends all of his time "debunking" so-called paranormal phenomenon etc. He frequently ignores and does not report on evidence and statistical results that contradict his debunking explanation. Even A.C. Clarke was chagrined with Randi when they looked at dowsing and there was some statistical evidence that dowsers were able to find water (well above chance in a controlled field study), but Randi ignored those findings and declared ALL dowsing ineffective bugaboo based on another portion of the test which had the dowsers try to find buried metals (which they were no better than chance in being able to find). Randi represents entrenched materialist science, refusing to see past the end of his nose and suddenly going deaf, dumb and blind when evidence is presented that is not within his paradigm. That being said there is SCANT evidence for any of the phenomena that he debunks, BUT that still does not warrant the automatic gainsaying of it all. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing
-Caveat Lector- Great post! Thanks, Kris. On Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:25:28 EST, Kris Millegan wrote: Subject: Sinister Masonic secrets of the Oklahoma City bombing DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Millenium Round of the WTO under fire ...... from both left and right
"Millenium Round" of the WTO under fire ... ... from both left and right by Alain Kessi When in May last year the World Trade Organization organized its second Ministerial Conference in Geneva eight thousand people took to the streets in Geneva, and tens of thousands world-wide in decentralized actions in order to protest against the power relations that the WTO helps imposing.[1] Some of the strategists of deregulation seem to be shaking with the shock. When on 23 September of the same year UN representatives and top managers of corporations met at the Geneva Business Dialogue, Helmut Maucher - President of the ICC-WBO (International Chamber of Commerce / World Business Organization) and Chairman of the Board of Nestlé -, who had called the meeting, felt obliged to castigate the protests - whose organizers "would do well to seek legitimacy" - and call on the state governments to fulfil their policing duties. Now it seems like things might get even better in Seattle where from 30 November to 3 December the third Ministerial Conference is going to take place. Already in the preparation phase the WTO is struggling with problems of legitimacy. "All you have to do is read the newspaper to know that the anti-WTO forces have been more effective, thus far, than we have," laments Scot Montrey, spokesman for the U.S. Alliance for Trade Expansion, a US coordination of large corporations.[2] Michael Dolan, who is coorganizing the protests and is a deputy director of Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch, a group founded by Ralph Nader, rejoices: "I was thrilled when Seattle was selected," said. "It's almost like they're giving us home-field advantage."[3] A whole range of activities are planned around the Ministerial Conference by radical left and progressive grassroots groups, NGOs and trade unions: from street theater and actions of civil disobedience all the way to large demonstrations. Kept at a distance by the aforementioned organizers, but nevertheless quite present in the weeks leading up to the protests are extreme-right Republicans as well as conservative environmental organizations with essentialist lines of argument like the Sierra Club. While the Republicans demand - just like the radical left - that the US government leave the WTO, the Sierra Club wants - like the established leftist NGOs - that "civil society", meaning themselves, be given a place in the decision-making process of the WTO. The blurring of the difference between left-wing and right-wing approaches is especially visible in Seattle. The city council has declared a MAI-free zone (MAI - Multilateral Agreement on Investment) on the city territory. The symbolic anti-globalization measure was proposed by Brian Derdowski, Republican member of the King County council, where another such zone has been implemented.[4] On a US-wide level John Talbott, spokesperson for the Reform Party, does not see much difference between Ralph Nader on the left and Pat Buchanan on the right when they talk about globalization, and proposes that a new party be created that is neither right nor left, but created to represent the hard-working average American. In this he closes his eyes on Pat Buchanan's racist, sexist and homophobic attitude. The latter's right-wing "producerist"[5] populism refers to a hard-working productive middle class and working class being squeezed from above and below by "lazy social parasites".[6] What has gone awry, if one of the greatest leftist mobilizations of the past years - the one against "free" trade, against "globalization", against "transnational corporations" and especially against the MAI - is so attractive for right-wing conservative groups? In June 1999 the Dutch antiracist group De Fabel van de illegaal, whose work had greatly contributed to building a strong movement against the MAI, decided to leave the campaigns against "free trade". "After taking a closer look we concluded that to take 'free trade' as a primary target is not a logical choice based on a radical Left analysis, but instead comes more from a New Right analysis," the group explained in an open letter in September 1999. A year before that already, in October 1998, they had published a first discussion paper: "With 'New Right' against Globalization?"[7] They followed it up with a series of articles dealing with the weaknesses of the discourse on "globalization" and "free trade" as well as with people serving as intermediaries between left-wing and right-wing activists and groups. In his analysis of the crisis of antiracism, Pierre-André Taguieff describes the appropriation of leftist discourses by the neoracists as retorsion (not in the sense of revenge, but in a slightly less common French meaning of the use of an argument against its author)[8] This raises the question of when a leftist discourse is open to retorsion. Or the other way around: How would a discourse have to be structured
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- Perhaps we reincarnate into reverse time, and our future lives are actually in the present-time past. Thus science-fiction writers are the only ones who actually remember the past, which at the moment is still in the future. Yep. -Original Message- From: Ric Carter [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 12:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2 # The Universe may contain regions where time runs backwards. THE Universe may contain regions where milk would stir itself out of coffee and eggs would un-break, sez a New York physicist. The idea that there may be regions where time runs backwards could explain invisible dark matter. This kind of matter, invoked by cosmologists to explain the movement of galaxies, could originate in a future contracting phase of the Universe. Grave-to-cradle security: http://uk.news.yahoo.com/991124/18/bo71.html : Do you prefer time to run forwards, backwards, sideways, upside-down, in a spiral, or random jig-jags? Have you designed/built/used time machines that explore each possible geometry? Where do you end up? DO you end up? Is there an end, beginning, midpoint? Is time a probabilistic cloud, temporal fog?? DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] FW: UN Global Gun Grab
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: Chris W.Stark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 2:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:UN Global Gun Grab *** PGP Signature Status: unknown *** Signer: Unknown, Key ID = 0x843F56AC *** Signed: 25/11/1999 2:58:31 *** Verified: 26/11/1999 22:01:20 *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** GUN OWNERS ALLIANCE !!ALERT!! Chris W. Stark - Director P.O. Box 1924 Crosby, Texas 77532-1924 Ph. (281) 787-4111 Fax (281) 328-7505 http://www.GOA-Texas.org email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/24/1999 UN Global Gun Grab _ "¤"¥"¤"§"¤"¥"¤"§"¤"¥"¤""¤ ¯ Copyright (c) 1999 by The New American. Republication permitted ONLY if this e-mail alert is left intact in its original state. For additional information, go to http://www.goa-texas.org/U_nation.htm Vol. 15, No. 24 November 22, 1999 Global Gun Grab http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/11-22-99/vo15no24_gun.htm by Thomas R. Eddlem It's open season on the right to keep and bear arms as UN globocrats gear up for international gun controls. The United Nations is very troubled that the United States has retained its Second Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which guarantees that "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Radical new UN proposals treat free people with the means to effect their own self defense as a vital threat to the United Nations and its quest for what it calls the "peace-building process." More troubling still is the fact that for the first time this radical UN agenda represents a clear and present danger to our right to keep and bear arms. This is in part because the Clinton State Department is collaborating with the UN and its proposals. But another, perhaps more dangerous, prong of the UN attack on the right to keep and bear arms comes from an insidious quasi-private institution heavily funded by socialist Northern European governments. This little-known, UN-backed organization charges itself with developing "message strategies" and "campaigning and advocacy strategies" to obtain a UN-managed global ban on the private ownership of firearms. See: DEPARTMENT OF STATE PUBLICATION 7277, THE UNITED STATES PROGRAM FOR GENERAL AND COMPLETE DISARMAMENT IN A PEACEFUL WORLD http://www.mikenew.com/pub7277.html Anti-Gun Agenda The United Nations "Report of the Group of Governmental Experts on Small Arms" issued on August 19th bitterly complains that "there are wide differences among States [nations] as regards which types of arms are permitted for civilian possession, and as regards the circumstances under which they can legitimately be owned, carried and used. Such wide variation in national laws raise difficulties for effective regional or international coordination." That the UN "experts" are complaining mainly about the United States is made clear from the concluding recommendations in the report. Among the "coordination" proposals adopted by the panel, enthusiastically seconded by UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan in his foreword to the report - are the following: * "All States should ensure that they have in place adequate laws, regulations and administrative procedures to exercise effective control over the legal possession of small arms and light weapons and over their transfer" * "States are encouraged to integrate measures to control ammunition" * "States should work toward ... the prohibition of unrestricted trade and private ownership of small arms and light weapons" The UN report defines small arms to include just about every category of firearms that exists: "The category of small arms includes revolvers and self-loading pistols, rifles and carbines, sub-machine guns, assault rifles and light machine guns." The United Nations call for banning even hunting rifles and antique revolvers from civilian possession demonstrates the radical and groundbreaking nature of the report. Though the current United Nations attack on the Second Amendment fails to take aim at civilian possession of shotguns, shotgun owners should find no security in the current UN focus. The UN report in no way limits global firearms restrictions to "military"-related firearms such as "revolvers" and "rifles." The UN "experts" explain that the United Nations must deal with firearms on social as well as military criteria: "Virtually every part of the United Nations system is dealing in one way or another with the consequences of the armed conflicts, insecurity, violence, crime, social disruption, displaced peoples and human suffering that are directly or indirectly associated with the wide availability and the use of these weapons." To implement their gun control measures, UN officials plan to ignore the reservation of national sovereignty guaranteed in the UN Charter the same way that the U.S.
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Tatman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News - Friday #2 Date: Friday, November 26, 1999 1:55 PM -Caveat Lector- Perhaps we reincarnate into reverse time, and our future lives are actually in the present-time past. Thus science-fiction writers are the only ones who actually remember the past, which at the moment is still in the future. Yep. Would that be the time line when JR wasn't shot and the shower scene really was dream? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Scales in the Balance
-Caveat Lector- From http://www.emperors-clothes.com/news/mandel.htm {{Begin}} Report: Meeting with Carla del Ponte on NATO Crimes of War by Michael Mandel (posted 11-26-99) Toronto lawyer David Jacobs and I met with the new Chief Prosecutor of the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia at Tribunal headquarters in The Hague on Friday November 19. The meeting lasted an hour and a half and was attended by the Prosecutor, Justice Carla Del Ponte (of Switzerland) and two of her Senior Legal Advisers, William Fenrick (of Canada) and Gavin Ruxton (of Scotland). This was the second meeting we have had in the Hague -- the first was with former Prosecutor Justice Louise Arbour -- in pursuance of our complaint against 68 named leaders of NATO and the NATO countries for war crimes committed in Yugoslavia during the bombing campaign of March 24 - June 10. At our meeting with the Prosecutor we delivered a written brief outlining our case and three thick volumes of evidence documenting the war crimes. The brief is attached. In our brief and in our oral argument we made the following points: 1.. That there is overwhelming evidence of war crimes, crimes against humanity and grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions committed by the named leaders, involving the willful killing and injury of thousands of civilians, as well as the destruction of billions of dollars worth of civilian property; 2.. That this was deliberate on the part of the named leaders and that there was no lawful excuse, the war being illegal from start to finish; 3.. That whatever the responsibilities of the Balkan actors themselves, an enormous measure of moral and legal responsibility for the ongoing disaster in the Former Yugoslavia must be placed squarely on the shoulders of the NATO leaders; 4.. That the evidence was so strong that it warranted the addition of a count of murder contrary to Article 5 (a) of the Tribunal Statute for each of the civilians on all sides killed during the attack and in its violent aftermath, continuing to this day in Kosovo; 5.. That to the list of the named accused (which includes all the heads of government, foreign ministers and defence ministers of the NATO countries, as well as the leaders of NATO itself) must be added the name of Lt. General Michael C. Short, who has emerged as one of the main protagonists propelling NATO towards the commission of war crimes; 6.. That the prosecutor is under a legal duty to indict each of the named leaders; 7.. That this is not only a requirement of law, it is a requirement of justice to the victims and of deterrence to powerful countries such as those in NATO who, in their military might and in their control over the media, are lacking in any other natural restraint such as might deter less powerful countries; 8.. That the decision during the war to indict Milosevic and other members of the Serb leadership placed an especially heavy duty on the Prosecutor to indict the NATO leaders, because the failure to do so allowed the Tribunal to be used as a crucial propaganda device by the NATO countries to help fight their illegal, aggressive war; 9.. That the continued failure to indict NATO leaders falsely legitimates the crippling sanctions being imposed on Yugoslavia 10.. That there is highly credible evidence that the United States intended the Tribunal for just these propaganda purposes; 11.. That the decision by Judge Arbour to indict Milosevic in the midst of the attack raised serious questions about the impartiality of the Tribunal; and 12.. That the failure to indict NATO would be a mortal blow to the credibility of the Tribunal because the world believes the NATO leadership to be at least as guilty of war crimes as the Serbian leadership, if not guiltier. During the presentation of our arguments and the evidence we had the opportunity to engage in a fairly free-ranging discussion of some of the legal and evidential issues raised by the case. The question of the relevance of the illegality of the war to NATO leaders' liability was raised by one of the Prosecutor's advisers. He took the position that the illegality of the attack itself, and by extension everything necessarily incidental to it, could not form the basis of a war crimes charge. We took the position that this was an unduly narrow and, indeed, incorrect reading of the Statute and that it would have the effect of immunizing war criminals of the powerful countries for some of the most terrible crimes. We also pointed out that the NATO leaders' criminal liability was based not only the illegality of the war, but also the criminal means by which it was carried out, including the deliberate strategy of terrorizing the civilian population. The Prosecutor herself suggested that the cases of Milosevic and NATO were very different; but we argued that, however that might be, legally and morally speaking the NATO leaders were still guilty of very serious crimes that had caused at least as
Re: [CTRL] 'International Cooperation Council'
-Caveat Lector- this sounds as if it were directly "lifted" from Constance Cumbey's THE HIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW. BTW, the current name of International Cooperation Council is CommUNITY Diversity (we have a branch of this group in the La Grange IL area). Robin Peters DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico
Attached is a CIA document regarding Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico, declassified three decades after the fact. It's called "The Lopez Report." It would make a great movie. Her name was Silvia. She worked the visa desk. She looked for all the world like Ronnie Spector, lead singer of the quintessential Sixties gringo girl group, the Ronettes. Everybody knew she was a spy. Nobody knew for whom. Everybody knew what she liked in bed, though. She liked gringos, blonde gringos. Silvia looked up from her desk one day. A handsome blonde gringo was eyeing her assets. "Is there anything I can, uh, do for you today senor, . . . senor . . . ?" He smiled knowingly and extended his hand. "Oswald," he said, "Lee Oswald." Lopez_Report_(ascii) LEE HARVEY OSWALD THE CIA AND MEXICO CITY I. INTRODUCTION A. Issues Addressed 1 B. Differences Between the Warren Commission Investigation of Lee Harvey Oswald's Activities in Mexico City and the House Select Committee on Assassination's Investigation. 3 C. Conclusions 5 D. Structure and Relevancy 10 II. Central Intelligence Agency Surveillance Operations in Mexico City in September and October 1963 A. Photographic Surveillance Operations Aimed at the Cuban Diplomatic Compound 12 1. Introduction12 2. Physical Positioning of Surveillance Bases and Targets 12 3. Objectives of Operation and Scope of Coverage Provided 13 4. Disposition of Production from the Operation 30 B. Photographic Surveillance Operations Aimed at the Soviet Diplomatic Compound31 1. Introduction31 2. Physical Positioning of Surveillance Bases and Targets 31 3. Objectives of Operation and Scope of Coverage Provided 33 4. Procedure and Timing Involved in Processing Production from the Operation 45 5. Responsibility for the Operation47 6. Coordination of Surveillance Operations 52 a. [missing] 53 b. Analysis and Reporting of Information Obtained 54 3. [redacted] 56 4. [13 chars] from Operation 58 a. Types 59 b. Handling Procedures59 (1) Resuma59 (2) [redacted] 60 (3) [redacted] 61 (a) [redacted] 61 (b) [redacted] 62 (c) [redacted] 64 (d) [redacted] 66 (e) Expedited Procedure 67 (f) [redacted] 70 (g) Format 71 c. Voice Comparisons 72 III. Information About Lee Harvey Oswald's stay in Mexico that was Known by the CIA Mexico City Station Prior to the Assassination of John Kennedy and the Sources of that Information A. Information that was Available 72 1. Information Available to the Mexico City Station from [ ] surveillance at the Soviet Consulate and Millitary Attache's Office 73 a. September 27, 1963, Friday 73 b. September 28, 1963, Saturday 76 c. October 1, 1963, Tuesday 78 d. October 3, 1963, Thursday 79 2. Information Available to the Mexico City CIA Station from CIA Headquarters 80 3. Information Available to the Mexico City Station from [ ] Surveillance Aimed at the Cuban Diplomatic Compound 81 4. Information Available to the Mexico City Station from Photographic Surveillance of the Soviet and Cuban Diplomatic Compounds81 5. Possibility that Additional
[CTRL] Fw: David Icke responds to a letter in Nexus magazine
-Caveat Lector- This is merely being passed on so you can be up to date with the latest on this saga. Maybe Lauren could help us out here...Thanks! Nicky -Original Message- From: Para [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 27 November 1999 8:35 Subject: David Icke responds to a letter in Nexus magazine In reply to a "Letters to the Editor" from one Ivan Fraser, who, among other things, claimed to have edited David's new book, "The Biggest Secret", appeared the following letter and reply from David Icke to Nexus magazine. And a reply from Duncan Roads the editor follows. ... From: Nexus [Magazine] Vol.7, No:1, Dec. '99 - Jan. 2000. Shapeshifting Claims: Dear NEXUS: I am reluctant to interrupt this gathering of the Sir Laurence Gardner Appreciation Society, but I'm afraid that, in the interests of accuracy, I am compelled to do so, albeit for only a moment. Ivan Fraser claims in your Letters to the Editor last issue that he "edited" my book, The Biggest Secret... Mr Fraser was merely employed to proofread The Biggest Secret for typing and spelling errors... [I removed several paragraphs of unnecessary personal slander about Ivan at this point. Ed.] He says that his "own research" is in line with that of Sir Laurence Gardner, documenter of Star Fire blood-drinking rituals and head of the ancient Royal Court of the Dragon, which is fronted by those who claim ancestry from the "dragon" "royal" bloodlines - the bloodlines, I would suggest, which were seeded by the reptilian Anunnaki. But, astonishing as this may be to Mr Fraser, the fact that both he and Sir Laurence Gardner say the same things is no confirmation whatsoever that their research is true and accurate. I note with interest that Sir Laurence ridicules the idea that those of the "dragon" bloodlines, as he calls them, are actually reptilian crossbreeds and sometimes shapeshifters. He notes how such stories were rife in the ancient world, but says it is "difficult to comprehend in these more levelheaded times " that " anyone believed such nonsense". Well, unfortunately, Sir Laurence, endless numbers of people all over the world are having the same experience today of seeing those of the "dragon" bloodlines shapeshift, just like the ancients did, and what I find hard to comprehend is how you can be so astonishingly ignorant of this. If, indeed, you really are. I further find it difficult to perceive that the obvious diversion and smokescreen about these bloodlines coming from "Jesus" can go on being promoted by a man who claims expertise in history and genealogy. Or how anyone who does the most minimal research into the existence of "Jesus" could believe such claptrap. Sir Laurence dismisses the idea of shapeshifting reptilians as ridiculous, despite the endless ancient and modern accounts, while, at the same time, asking us to believe that fictional characters like Jesus and Mary Magdalene (creations of the Roman Piso family) could seed bloodlines. Are we now to believe, Sir Laurence, that Jack and Jill, Snow White and Cinderella also seeded bloodlines, which should today be considered worthy of royal title? Should someone not launch a Royal Court of the Tom and Jerry? Mr Fraser and others also constantly attack Arizona Wilder without ever bothering to research her background in any way. Arizona, whose Illuminati code name was, interestingly, "Star Fire" - after the blood-drinking rituals she conducted in a mind-controlled state - has more guts in her smallest digit than Mr Fraser and co. will have if they live to be a thousand. He, Sir Laurence Gardner, Duncan Roads and NEXUS can go on for as long as they like dismissing and ridiculing the existence of shapeshifting reptilians among the elite "Grail" bloodlines through which they operate, but if they only opened their eyes and minds (won't hold my breath) they would see the fantastic evidence to confirm that this bizarre story is true. That evidence is hurtling towards you like a runaway truck, and you are all going to have to eat so much humble pie you will need life membership of Weight Watchers. David Icke, Ryde, Isle of Wight, England, UK [Dear David: I am still waiting to see the 'fantastic evidence", or hear from any of the "endless numbers of people...seeing those of the 'dragon' bloodlines shapeshift". I also note that the only person doing the "attacking" at your website discussion areas is yourself Surely your "research" can stand up to a bit of well-meaning scrutiny, without your resorting to insulting those who seek further clarification of your claims. And finally, for the record, I would like to point out that I have no problem believing in the existence of shapeshifting reptilian aliens. I DO have a problem believing that Arizona Wilder (your star witness) saw Sir Lawrence Gardner and Zachariah Sitchin shapeshifting into reptilian aliens at some satanic
Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico
-Caveat Lector- I can't open these files. Can you send the text not as an attachment, but within an email? Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] 'International Cooperation Council'
Robin, Nice to know of another Hidden Dangers reader. Her book was tops and quite ahead of its time. Terry - Original Message - From: Robin Peters To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] 'International Cooperation Council' -Caveat Lector-this sounds as if it were directly "lifted" from Constance Cumbey's THEHIDDEN DANGERS OF THE RAINBOW.BTW, the current name of International Cooperation Council is CommUNITYDiversity (we have a branch of this group in the La Grange IL area).Robin PetersDECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandicscreeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid mattersand 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outrightfrauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effectsspread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers;be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial andnazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.htmlhttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
[CTRL] Microsoft and liberty
-Caveat Lector- ~~for educational purposes only~~ Microsoft and liberty by Walter Williams Think about the government's case against Microsoft and, just as importantly, it's implications for our liberty. Let's ask a general question just to get started. If there's an act we all agree is immoral and unacceptable when done by an individual, does that act become moral and acceptable when done collectively, namely by government? You say, "Williams, that's a bit too esoteric; would you break it down?" OK, here's a for-instance. If we deem rape as immoral and unacceptable when done by an individual, does rape become moral and acceptable when done collectively? What if we vote to rape someone. Does that make rape morally acceptable? I'm hoping that all of my fellow Americans will answer: Neither a majority consensus nor collective action necessarily establishes what's moral or immoral. Let's cut through the Justice Department's legalese and get down to moral basics and what should be the standard for judging Microsoft's actions: Did Microsoft engage in peaceable, voluntary exchange -- and on non-fraudulent terms -- with its customers, or did it engage in fraud, violence or threats of violence? You say, "Come on, Williams; the relevant question is whether Microsoft violated the law." Nonsense. Laws do not necessarily establish morality. For example, the 1850 Fugitive Slave Act provided fines and imprisonment for assisting runaway slaves. If I were on a jury, whether a defendant violated the Fugitive Slave Act would have been immaterial to me. I would have deemed slavery and any law that protected it immoral. As such, people have no moral duty to obey immoral laws. If we're really concerned about monopolistic practices injurious to consumers, we'd call for Justice Department actions against the U.S. Postal Service. Microsoft has never done the kind of despicable acts done by the Postal Service. Suppose you and I agree that I will deliver first class mail to your house. What happens? I will be arrested for competing with Postal Service. In fact, by law I cannot even put anything in the mailbox belonging to you. It's worse than that. The Postal Service has come after people, with fines, for using Federal Express services for mail that it deems "non-urgent." If you think it would be wrong for Microsoft to use violence and the threat of violence to maintain its monopoly position, why in the world is it acceptable for the government's Postal Service to do the same? The Justice Department's claim that Microsoft's actions harm consumers is a sham. The overall pattern of the high-tech industry has been a precipitous fall in prices and rise in quality over time. We needn't mention the pattern of the prices and quality of postal services. There's another and more important monopoly target for the Justice Department, and that's the public (government) education monopoly. That is a monopoly that's eating away at the soul of our nation. It's charging customers (citizens) higher and higher prices (taxes), while their product quality is getting worse and worse. It has the power to commit despicable acts beyond any monopolistic dreams Microsoft may have. For example, what would you think if Microsoft had the power to tell you: "I don't care if you don't like my operating system and want to use somebody else's. But if you do use someone else's, you still have to pay for mine even if you don't use it." That's precisely what the education monopoly tells parents who want to take their children out of rotten government schools and put them in private schools. If Clinton's Justice Department really wants to go after harmful monopolistic practices, I can give them hundreds of targets. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [17] The Great Heroin Coup
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism Henrik Kruger Jerry Meldon, Translator South End Press©1980 Box 68 Astor Station Boston, MA 02123 ISBN 0-89608-0319-5 240pps - one edition - out-of-print Orginally published in Danish Smukke Serge og Heroien Bogan 1976 --[17]-- SEVENTEEN WHITE HOUSE HANKY PANKY Never had Richard Nixon's White House staff been so preoccupied with narcotics matters as in the summer of 1971. They were obsessed with two projects: a new White House intelligence and enforcement unit as envisioned by the Huston Plan, and a comprehensive narcotics control apparatus, similarly under direct presidential control. The two idees fixes converged in a conspiratorial and political-criminal network of hitherto unimagined dimensions. That summer the White House set up the Special Action Office for Drug Abuse Prevention alongside the Special Investigation Unit, otherwise known as the Plumbers. Several of the Plumbers also worked on narcotics affairs. The groups' key figures included: Egil Krogh (chief Plumber)who followed John Erlichman (for whose law firm he had worked part time) to the White House in 1968 within months of his graduation from the University of Washington Law School. He was named deputy assistant to the president for law enforcement, and within three years found himself in charge both of Nixon's narcotics and law enforcement campaign, and of the "Plumbers squad. His single-minded ambition surfaced in a declaration to the noted psychiatrist and narcotics expert, Dr. Daniel S. Freedman, when the latter refused to support one of Krogh's programs: "Well, don't worry. Anyone who opposes us we'll destroy. As a matter of fact, anyone who doesn't support us, well destroy."[1] Krogh would wind up in jail for the break-in at the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist, Dr. Lewis Fielding. Walter Minnick (temporary Plumber)a young graduate of Harvard Business School and former agent of the CIA, who joined Krogh's narcotics staff in spring 1971 and later helped draft the reorganization plan that created the DEA. John Caulfield (Plumber)a former agent of the New York City Police Department's Bureau of Special Services (BOSS), which specialized in narcotics and "monitoring the activities of terrorist organizations." In the 1960 presidential campaign he had been assigned to protect candidate Nixon in New York City. That and his close relationship with Nixon's personal secretary, Rose Mary Woods (of eighteen and one-half minute tape gap fame), gained him a foot in the door of the White House.[2] Myles Ambrosethe former Customs Commissioner, who was named head of the narcotics campaign's domestic strike force. He would later leave government service in disgrace. G. Gordon Liddy (Plumber) -a former FBI agent whose narcotics intelligence job at the Treasury Department had been terminated, only weeks prior to his recruitment by the White House, for his outspoken lobbying against gun-control legislation. Eventually, he would get six-to-twenty for his role in the break-in at the Watergate complex and one-to-three for the job at Fielding's office. Howard Hunt (Plumber)a former CIA agent closely connected to the agency-trained Cuban exiles, many of whom had emerged from Santo Trafficante's Cuban narcotics Mafia. Hunt was employed as a special advisor on narcotics problems in Southeast Asia. In November 1973 Judge John Sirica would sentence him to two-and-a-half to eight years reduced from an initial thirty-five for the Watergate break-in. Lucien Coneina CIA agent, Ed Lansdale's right-hand man in Vietnam, and an expert on Southeast Asian narcotics centers and the Corsican Mafia. He was brought into the White House by his old buddy Hunt. David Younga young lawyer who put up a sign outside his office, "Mr. Young, Plumber," when apprised that he would be plugging leaks and that the trade had run in his family. He came to Krogh's staff from Henry Kissinger's National Security Council. It was a strange mix of novices and experienced agents with the most intriguing pasts. Hunt and Liddy were located in Room 16 of the Executive Office Building, headquarters for the Plumbers group's secret narcotics missions and other, crooked operations on behalf of the Committee to Re-Elect the President (CREEP). The Plumbers' first assignment was the break-in at the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist.[3] For the break-in dirty work, Hunt enlisted Bernard Barker, Eugenio Rolando Martinez and Felipe de Diego, three of his Cuban friends who had been involved in the Bay of Pigs invasion. Martinez and de Diego also took part in the CIA's follow-up Operation 40, and the ubiquitous Martinez was in on Trafficante-masterminded boat raids on Cuba.[4] By the summer of 1971 the White House Death Squad was well on its way. Hunt sought out Barker in Miami for what Hunt called "a new national security organization above the CIA and FBI." Barker would
[CTRL] [18] The Great Heroin Coup
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Great Heroin Coup - Drugs, Intelligence, International Fascism Henrik Kruger Jerry Meldon, Translator South End Press©1980 Box 68 Astor Station Boston, MA 02123 ISBN 0-89608-0319-5 240pps - one edition - out-of-print Orginally published in Danish Smukke Serge og Heroien Bogan 1976 --[18]-- EIGHTEEN ONE MORE COVER-UP In early 1973 the Department of Health, Education and Welfare estimated the number of U.S. heroin addicts at 600,000. By the end of that year, Dr. Robert Egebjerg, director of the Alcohol, Drug Abuse and Health Administration, placed the number at 300,000. And in June 1974 DEA international operations chief John T. Cusack, testifying before the House Committee on International Narcotics Control, said that the addict population was down to 200,000.[1] This giant cover-up hid the fact that Nixon's heroin war was no more than window-dressing. On 7 October 1974, six weeks after Nixon's resignation, the head of the White House Special Action Office on Drug Abuse Prevention, Dr. Robert Dupont, was pressured to release a secret report that the number of addicts had in fact risen, reaching even into formerly untouched middle class suburbs.[2] On 27 April 1976 President Gerald Ford said in a message to Congress: "By mid-1973 many were convinced that we had turned the corner on the drug problem. Unfortunately, while we had won an important victory, we had not won the war on drugs. By 1975 it was clear that drug use was increasing, that the gains of prior years were being lost, that in human terms narcotics had became a national tragedy. Today, drug abuse constitutes a clear and present danger to the health and the future of our Nation." In February 1977 the House Select Committee on Narcotics Abuse and Control reported that the addict population totalled some 800,000. And in 1978 New York City's special narcotics prosecutor, Sterling Johnson, spoke of a heroin epidemic worse than that of the late sixties and early seventies.[3] But the cover-up hadn't stopped in 1974. From 1975 until the end of 1978 the DEA consistently maintained that between 80 and 90 percent of the heroin consumed in the U.S. was Mexican. However, the claim doesn't stand up against the following facts: 1) 80 percent of the world's heroin -exactly the figure exported from Marseilles until 1972 -was, at least until late 1976, produced from opium harvested in the Golden Triangle and distributed via Bangkok, Singapore, and Hong Kong;[4] 2) the number of arrests of couriers en route from Southeast Asia increased steadily after 1973;[5] 3) reports from New York and other big cities testified to the arrival of large shipments of white heroin from Southeast Asia; 4) the market's supply of heroin did not dwindle despite aerial destruction of an estimated 60 percent of Mexico's poppy fields in early 1976;[6] 5) an effective tidal wave of Golden Triangle heroin began flooding Europe in 1973, while many couriers en route to the U.S. and Canada were nabbed by European police; 6) the DEA was aware of Santo Trafficante's dealings in Southeast Asia, as well as the later Mafia summit in Palermo where large sums of money were set aside for investment in the Golden Triangle; 7) it was easy to verify the narcotics flow from Mexico, since the border was subject to close surveillance, but to conclude that most of the heroin on the U.S. market originated in Mexico was a stretch of logic. Even the DEA had to admit the tenuousness of its claims. On 24 February 1976, the DEA's John Cusack admitted that his agency's estimate that only 8 percent of U.S. heroin came from Southeast Asia was surprising, considering the region's prolific opium production. He added: "We are also concerned about our detection during 1975 of substantial quantities of white no. 4 heroin moving directly from Bangkok to the United States. In December, for example, forty-six kilograms of heroin were seized in Bangkok, concealed in the household effects shipment of a returning U.S. serviceman. Follow-up investigation in the development of an extensive conspiracy prosecution has identified twelve additional shipments entering the United States since 1974." Twelve such shipments meant 552 kilos, or more than the entire 470 kilos confiscated in the U.S. in 1975 -and from only one of many Southeast Asian smuggling networks. Cusack went even further: "It appears almost certain that the bulk of the white heroin found during 1975 in the inner-city areas of our eastern cities has been Asian no. 4 smuggled from Bangkok."[7] Why then did the DEA continue to overstate Mexico's role and minimize Southeast Asia-even after the publication, in 1972, of Alfred McCoy's The Politics of Heroin in Southeast Asia? Perhaps to justify the great expenditure in support of right wing military and police forces in Latin America. (The later boom in Colombian cocaine would also provide justification.) Southeast Asia was downplayed so as not to jeopardize relations
[CTRL] AF News 27 Nov 99
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! 992148. Travis KC-10 refuels Raptor for first time by 1Lt Tom Crosson 60 Air Mobility Wing Public Affairs TRAVIS AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. (AFPN) -- Four KC-10 crewmembers here had a chance Nov. 17 to help advance the Air Force's capability to achieve complete air dominance. They were part of test that marked the first time in the F-22 program that aerial refueling was accomplished with a KC-10. Instructor pilot Capt. Jeff McCleery and flight engineer TSgt. Tom "Sammy" Hager from the 6th Air Refueling Squadron along with co-pilot Capt. Scott Roe and boom operator SSgt. Roman Munoz from the 9th ARS teamed up with members of the 452nd Flight Test Squadron at Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., to help determine if there were compatibility issues between the Air Force's new F-22 "Raptor" and a KC-10 refueler. The F-22 has been deemed America's next-generation air superiority fighter. Air Force officials indicate that once the F-22s are available to deploy with U.S. joint task forces, America will have the dominant military advantage over potential adversaries necessary to protect our national interests with minimal risks. One unique factor of this mission was the number of different organizations involved. The Travis crew teamed up with the 452nd TFS, the F-22 Combined Test Force and engineers from Lockheed Martin Corp. to complete the test. Captains Todd Markwald and Greg Slover, test pilots with the 452nd FTS, flew with the Travis crew during the initial tests because they are trained in how to deal with emergency situations regarding the F-22. As the tests progressed, the Travis crew became more involved so engineers could concentrate on how well the F-22 handled the tests. "Our goal for this test is to identify the F-22s 'envelopes', the minimum and maximum allowable air speeds, altitude, and boom movements that both aircraft will allow," Markwald said. "It is important to make sure that the F-22 is compatible with the KC-10. If we take it to war, the KC-10 will get it there." During the five-day test period, the crew flew four sorties. Each sortie lasted approximately three hours. Throughout the flights, both the KC-10 crew and F-22 crew followed scenarios published on test cards. The test cards outlined step by step what was going to be practiced. All total, the KC-10 made more than 250 boom connections, or "contacts" with the F-22, off-loading 35,000 pounds of fuel. One important factor monitored was how well the F-22 was able to connect to the KC-10's boom. SSgt. Dave Francey, an experimental flight-test boom operator with the 452nd FTS, operated the boom during the initial tests. Francey, one of two test boom operators qualified in both the KC-10 and KC-135, was selected for this role because of his experience with recent KC-135 refueling tests with the F-22. While the two aircraft were connected, data was transferred from the boom to a panel in the rear of the KC-10, monitored by two flight test engineers. According to 1st Lt. Jay Bernheisel, a flight test engineer from the 452nd FTS, they were able to monitor the amount of stress on the boom while the aircraft attempted contacts at different positions and altitudes. "The test boom operators are the single point of contact for the F-22 CTF for this technical information," Francey said. The highlight of the mission for the Travis crew came when Munoz had a chance to become the first boom operator in Air Mobility Command to aerial refuel an F-22. He made four contacts with the F-22, most of which were done at an altitude of 3,000 feet at speeds of nearly 350 knots. He said that the experience was exciting, but admitted that the task was almost "business as usual." "It was an honor to be the first in AMC to refuel the F-22," Munoz said. "It will be gratifying to know that someday my inputs helped write the T.O. (technical order) for refueling the F-22s." Although the test flights seemed to be successful, it will take engineers some time to go through all the data that was compiled to determine how successful they were. "We forward all test data to the CTF and the contractors." Bernheisel said. "They will then determine if any modifications need to be made to make the F-22 more compatible." There are currently two F-22s being tested at Edwards AFB. Since they first arrived in February 1998, they have undergone a series of tests from structural ground tests to validating various flying qualities. 992148a,b,c. Travis KC-10 refuels Raptor for first time - image cutlines 992148a.jpg and 992148a.gif An F-22 Raptor connects with a KC-10 Extender during tests to determine compatibility between the two planes. The refueler crew, from Travis Air Force Base, Calif., assisted evaluators from the 452 Flight Test Squadron, Edwards Air Force Base, Calif., in conducting these tests which marked the first time the Raptor was refueled by the
[CTRL] GOP News Views - November 26, 1999
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! Will Media Do Right Thing? Fat Chance. âThis week provided further evidence the Democrats will shamelessly race bait to smear Republicans as bigots in order to boost black turnout in next yearâs elections. DNC Chairman Andrew made an outrageous, unsubstantiated claim that efforts were made to suppress minority voting in this monthâs elections and Al Gore is running dishonest ads on black radio stations accusing Republicans of blocking black nominees to the bench. Will the media let Democrats get away with calling for racial healing while inciting racial hatred?â - Kate OâBeirneâs âOutrage of the Week,â CNNâs âCapital Gang,â 11/20/99 NOW Stoops to Absurd Level The state of Florida this week gave final approval for a specialty license plate with a crayon drawing of two kids and the message âChoose Life.â Floridians can voluntarily pay an extra $22 for the plates - and the proceeds will go to organizations who help pregnant women who want to put their babies up for adoption. Voluntary. No government coercion. No taxpayer money involved. Free speech. Heck, it might even help reduce the number of abortions in the Sunshine State. Who could possibly object, right? Umm...the National Organization for Women, thatâs who. NOW is going to court to block the tagâs release. What a bunch of (you fill in the blank). *** Term Limits Could Cost GOP House If Republicans lose control of the House next year, add term limits to the list of reasons why (in addition to having no message, caving in to the president at the drop of a hat, spending money like drunken Democrats, etc.). Caught up in the term limit-mania of 1994, a number of solid GOP congress-critters took a self-imposed pledge to only serve three terms in office. That means their time is up next November. Most Democrats, usually the smarter of the political animals in matters such as these, opted not to take themselves out of the game prematurely. So what we face, boys and girls, is a situation where more Republicans are not running for re-election to Congress next year than Democrats. That means in those districts, Republicans have voluntarily given up the advantages of incumbency while Democrats have retained them. Weâre not called the âStupid Partyâ for nothinâ. ** Idaho Seeking to Repeal Term Limits âIdaho, arguably the most conservative state in the nation, could become the first to take the revolutionary step of repealing term limits. The Idaho legislature is poised to scale back the stateâs sweeping 1994 term-limits law when it convenes in January. A key problem, say critics, is that the state of 1.2 million simply isnât big enough to field a steady stream of qualified candidates for its local offices. âI served on the school board for six years, and sometimes you have to dig to find people to run,â said Idaho House Majority Leader Frank Bruneel of Lewiston, who favors an outright repeal. âI donât think serious consideration was given to how this would effect local entities, especially in rural, sparsely populated areas.â ... âIn some of these counties, you have more cattle than people,â (said Mark Snider, spokesman for Republican Gov. Dirk Kempthorne). âSometimes the local coroner is also the areaâs only mortician and funeral director. Heâs the only one in town qualified to fill the position, so itâs not practical to force him out of office.ââ - Washington Times Weekly, 10/31/99 Nevada Students Stink Up Math Test According to the Las Vegas Sun, âFifty-one percent of high school juniors failed the math portion of the High School Proficiency Exam given in October.â What makes these dismal results even more distressing is the fact that the kids only needed to get 64 percent of the answers correct in order to pass the test. Nevada State Superintendent of Public Education Mary Petersen - standing right smack in the middle of a disaster declaring, âNothing to see here; please move alongâ - told the Sun that the figures donât represent any drastic change over last year. Whew! Our kids are only as dumbed-down as they were last year. What a relief. Would someone please explain to us: (1) Why Ms. Petersen still has a job, (2) Why anyone still listens to anything the teachers union says, and (3) Why government schools are good and vouchers are bad. Inquiring minds wanna know. * The Bilingual Boondoggle âHereâs more evidence of the bilingual boondoggle: Roughly half of all Clark County (Nev.) seniors who flunked the state
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!!
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/skolnick.htm Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!! AIR CRASHES, BLACK BOXES, and UNSAFETY BOARDS---EgyptAir Flight 990, More of the Same? by Sherman H. Skolnick The National Transportation Safety Board, NTSB, and its predecessor federal agencies, have a long, sorry history of covering up foul play involved in some aircraft disasters. The word "sabotage" is a dirty, forbidden word to them and the airline industry. How can they sell tickets if passengers are haunted by the idea that some planes are put down by bombs, missiles, or other bloody work? Some NTSB panel members, in the past, have been suspected of concealing that some of their family members and cronies have financial interests, if not actual stock ownership, in the airline travel business. There is, in short, nothing safe about the Safety Board. About 1965 a commercial plane was enroute to Chicago. Just offshore of the Windy City, the plane blew up and fell in relatively shallow water of Lake Michigan. Early news accounts in some of the newspapers said a bomb was suspected. Later editions, like with political assassinations, cleaned up the messy details. Further stories dismissed the crash as merely some kind of "accident". One night a diver went down to the wreckage and apparently stole one of the "black boxes", that records various parameters of the plane's operations or records voices in the cockpit. Also removed were apparently certain items in the wreckage. What was that all about? According to some news reports, it was some kind of an unsolved mystery. Left out of reports in the monopoly press were that one of the passengers was a disgruntled top official of the American CIA. He was on the way to meeting a prominent journalist in Chicago. He was going to turn over documents showing that there had been a high-level cabal implicated in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in 1963. [Not the only time key witnesses were snuffed out on the way to meet with reporters. Example, the Karen Silkwood case. AND, see our details in an earlier story, about Reporters and Assassins(they sleep together)]. These details I had confirmed to me from two reliable sources. One of them was federal aircrash inspector. Unlike some of his colleagues, he had several times endangered his job and career demanding the truth be told about some crashes. BUT, his superiors always told him to "shut up". The facts were simple. To silence a top espionage official an entire plane was put in the drink killing all onboard. In December, 1972, one month after President Nixon was re-elected, a commercial plane was headed from Washington's National Airport, set for a stop in Chicago. Among the passengers were twelve WATERGATE figures, including Mrs. E. Howard Hunt, wife of the Watergate burglar. She was nervous about her luggage. So, she bought an additional first class seat ticket for her baggage right near her. Why? Well, contained there was two million dollars of "hush" money, that her husband reportedly blackmailed out of Nixon. Both Mr. and Mrs. E. Howard Hunt were long-time CIA officials. Both reportedly knew about the role of Tricky Dick implicated in the political assassination of President Kennedy. The two million dollars in valuables were to be "parked" apparently with her Chicago-area relatives, one of whom reportedly owns a sizeable accounting and motel operation some say is tied to the "boys", the traditional mafia. Some of the passengers perished when the United Air Lines plane pancaked just short of Midway Airport. Sooner than the police and fire departments, 150 FBI agents were already in the crash zone keeping local authorities away from the smouldering plane. The FBI headquarters is 12 miles away. How did that many FBI get there that soon, ahead of the fire and police? The FBI apparently were already in the vicinity of the airport waiting to take Mrs. Hunt and some of the other Watergators into custody, to be charged with extortion, that is, shaking down a federal official, namely President Nixon. It was supposed to result in a secret "national security" federal criminal prosecution with the court records sealed. From all the details we uncovered, we knew Mrs. Hunt and some of her confederates survived the pancaked air plane and were poisoned later by the FBI. We arranged to "liberate" the entire 1300 pages of documents and pictures of the National Transportation Safety Board, showing sabotage. The NTSB did NOT intend to release THOSE documents in the form they had them. Without telling the NTSB we had their file, we sued the NTSB, claiming sabotage cover up. A local crooked judge, however, put us out of Court without any formal hearing. Because of the lawsuit, the NTSB re-opened their public investigation later. Because of
[CTRL] Clinton's appeasement of N. Korea
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! -- -- Clinton's appeasement of N. Korea -- -- I don't have any plans - current or future - to run for any political office. But, if I did, and if, by some miracle, I were elected president, like Pat Buchanan, my first action upon being sworn into office would be to turn to William Jefferson Clinton and say, "Sir, you have the right to remain silent. ." My second action would be to bring home, immediately, U.S. troops from every far-flung police action around the globe - with one exception. The one place I would temporarily leave tens of thousands of troops on the ground is Korea. Why? Several reasons: No. 1: The U.S. has made a commitment, no matter how ill-advised it might be, to protect the South Korean people. It must be honored. It's a matter of life and death for millions. No. 2: If the U.S. pulled out of South Korea, North Korea's million-man army would likely invade within minutes, resulting in a human cataclysm and the destabilization of the area and the entire world. No. 3: North Korea, a despotic pariah state led by a man with serious psychotic tendencies, represents a real threat to the safety and security of the United States. It's this imminent threat that is either totally unrecognized by the Clinton administration or, for reasons unknown, is being ignored. In fact, for several years now, the Clinton administration has actually offered North Korea - a rogue, terrorist, unpredictable, and eminently hostile state - preferential treatment. North Korea is handled by the State and Defense departments like a most-favored nation. The U.S. has replaced Russia and China as North Korea's main benefactor, providing $270 million in direct aid from your tax dollars. Since 1995, total U.S. taxpayer aid to Pyongyang is close to $645 million and could, according to a report in Investor's Business Daily, top $1 billion by next year. In effect, you and I are subsidizing North Korea's continued militarization - including the development of nuclear, chemical, biological, and other weapons of mass destruction, as well as an intercontinental ballistic missile program for delivery of such weapons capable of hitting much of the United States. A congressional report issued earlier this month found "serious weaknesses" in the Clinton policy toward North Korea. "North Korea's WMD (weapons of mass destruction) programs pose a major threat to the United States and its allies," it said. "This threat has advanced considerably over the past five years, particularly with the enhancement of North Korea's missile capabilities. North Korea has produced, deployed, and exported missiles to Iran and Pakistan, launched a three-stage missile (Taepo Dong 1), and continues to develop a larger and more powerful missile (Taepo Dong 2)." This threat was compounded during the last five years while the Clinton administration chose a path of "constructive engagement" with North Korea. In other words, the bad kid on the block in northeast Asia has been rewarded for his bad behavior with aid far exceeding any previously received from the United States and anything received by peaceful neighbors. Does that make sense? This policy only encourages North Korea to threaten U.S. interests in the future. Each time it does, it wins more financial aid. Imagine what Pyongyang can expect to get when it actually hits the U.S. with a missile some day in the not-too-distant future. If you think that scenario is far-fetched, listen to the congressional report: "Unlike five years ago, North Korea can now strike the U.S. with a missile that could deliver high explosive chemical, biological, or possibly nuclear weapons. Currently, the United States is unable to defend against this threat." Think of it this way: Suppose there was a madman with a gun at your head. Yes, if he pulls the trigger and kills you, someone else will shoot him dead. But is that any consolation? Remember, he's a madman who has a track record of acting against his own best interests. That's exactly what the U.S. faces in the threat posed by North Korea. House International Relations Committee Chairman Benjamin Gilman, R-N.Y., sees that as a fitting analogy. "North Korea continues to hold out one hand for aid, while in the other hand it holds a gun. This has resulted in a very successful cycle of political blackmail and extortion with the international community," he said in a committee hearing last month. I like what Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, R-Calif. had to say in summarizing U.S. policy toward North Korea: "We are giving North Korea hundreds of millions of dollars in fuel and food while they are spending the same amount bolstering their military. If ever there was an insane policy, this is it." I guess Pyongyang doesn't have
[CTRL] The Rosenbergs of the '90s
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! -- -- -- -- The Rosenbergs of the '90s -- -- Despite plenty of historical revisionist attempts to redeem Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, the executed nuclear spies of another era remain traitors to the core in the American psyche. It's hard to understand, then, why those who accept the execution of a couple who smuggled U.S. nuclear secrets to the Soviets simply wink at another couple's blatant public actions to transfer the next generation of nuclear secrets to America's inevitable future enemies in Beijing. I'm talking about Bill and Hillary Clinton, the Rosenbergs of the '90s. The latest development in this ongoing saga was revealed by WorldNetDaily's Charles Smith last week: The Clinton administration has approved the shipment to Communist China of uranium U-235 - the nuclear isotope used in the atomic bomb exploded over Hiroshima in 1945. This is part of a long pattern of technology transfers approved by the White House, often over the heads of other oversight agencies, including the FBI, Justice Department and Pentagon. It's part of a pattern that goes back to the early days of the Clinton administration when Ron Brown served as Commerce secretary and was given carte blanche powers to make deals - no matter the national security implications. The policy continues today - even though Ron Brown met an untimely and still unexplained death. Now, Investor's Business Daily reporter Paul Sperry reveals the Clinton administration plans to move the Defense Department's export licensing offices to a U.S. Army base far from the Pentagon and other Washington agencies that seek technical military advice on exports. "Career licensing officials complain it's the latest in a series of steps that have weakened the Pentagon's role in blocking the transfer of military-related technology to China and other countries viewed as threats to U.S, security," Sperry writes. Sperry's startling revelation shows that this one-way flow of high-technology to China isn't moving quickly enough for the Clinton administration. It's about to go into overdrive during Clinton's last year in power. Sperry reports that this new move is actually being rushed. Originally, the idea was to do it in 2005. Now it must be completed by August, by edict of Clinton appointee John Hamre, Deputy Defense Secretary. "Some Defense officials suspect the administration is speeding up the move ahead of next November's election," reports Sperry. He quotes a senior Pentagon official involved in arms control policy as saying, "They're not at all clear that this move would be supported by the next administration." As usual with this administration, it hasn't notified Congress of the move, as required by law. It seems Hamre is filling the shoes of Ron Brown. He's the new go-to guy in the Clinton administration with respect to clearing all national-security hurdles to high-tech transfers to China. Last year, he folded the Defense Technology Security Administration and other related agencies into the newly created Defense Threat Reduction Agency. Under the reorganization, Sperry reports, DTRA's export-control office now comes under the Pentagon's undersecretary for acquisition, who deals mainly with defense contractors. It formerly reported to the undersecretary for policy, "whose office has traditionally been more concerned with security issues like stopping the spread of arms to unfriendly nations." Last month, Hamre ordered DTRA to come up with a plan by Dec. 16 to speed up the time it takes to OK export licenses, which are sent to the Pentagon by the State Department. His new plan gives the armed services just two days to submit a veto of such deals in the future. In other words, the military becomes a rubber-stamp operation for the will of the State Department. It makes one wonder: "What's the rush?" Business, business, business. That's what drives policy in the Clinton administration. That approach toward business at the expense of the free market is the hallmark of fascism. The Clinton administration wouldn't necessarily be so bad if the business was not always insider wheeler-dealer business. Special favoritism has pimped an incestuous relationship between multinational CEOs and Third World tyrants. The short-term political payoffs may look good. But the long-term fallout may be radioactive. -- -- A daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be heard at http://www.ktkz.com/ **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use
[CTRL] Why I am not a homophobe
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! ⢠Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.com. ⢠-- -- -- -- Why I am not a homophobe -- -- Washington Post ombudswoman E. R. Shipp suggests I am "hostile to homosexuals." In the popular lexicon, that makes one a "homophobe." I'd like to explain why I am not a "homophobe." First of all, the Latin root "homo" simply means "man." "Phobe," or "phobia," has to do with fear. I certainly do not fear men. I also do not fear homosexuals -- though, as much as possible, I do avoid them, as Christians and Jews are cautioned to do in Leviticus 18. Why are we cautioned to avoid homosexuals in the Bible? Here's what it says in the relevant verses of Leviticus 18 (KJV): 22. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. 23. Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion. 24. Defile not ye yourselves in any of these things: for in all these the nations are defiled which I cast out before you: 25. And the land is defiled: therefore I do visit the iniquity thereof upon it, and the land itself vomiteth out her inhabitants. 26. Ye shall therefore keep my statutes and my judgments, and shall not commit any of these abominations; neither any of your own nation, nor any stranger that sojourneth among you: 27. (For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;) 28. That the land spue not you out also, when ye defile it, as it spued out the nations that were before you. 29. For whosoever shall commit any of these abominations, even the souls that commit them shall be cut off from among their people. 30. Therefore shall ye keep mine ordinance, that ye commit not any one of these abominable customs, which were committed before you, and that ye defile not yourselves therein: I am the LORD your God. You see, God, speaking through Moses, tells us that practices including homosexuality will cause those involved and those around them to be spewed out of the land -- to be rejected, outcast, vomited from the land. I don't want to be too close when that happens. In other words, it's not homosexuals I fear. It is God. "Oh, Farah," some of you are saying, "you're just not being open-minded. You're just relying on that archaic, old relic, the Bible, to form your opinion. Don't you know that book is just a lot of fables? You don't really think God inspired any of that superstition, do you?" Well, yes, I do. And if you don't, then you've got a lot more to rethink than just whether it is appropriate for men to lie with men and women with women. You see, all of the sexual prohibitions we accept as normal today derive from this same biblical tradition -- nothing more, nothing less. Look at the beginning of Leviticus 18. Clearly, all kinds of abominations were taking place in Egypt and Canaan, prior to God's proscriptions to the Hebrew people. There were no laws or traditions against incest -- except those, perhaps, written on the hearts of men by God from the beginning of time. In fact, incest was considered great fun in Canaan. It was sort of the national sport. Adultery was not discouraged. It was a normal pastime. Even sacrificing babies to the idol Molech was considered the cost of doing business in these lands of sexual licentiousness. Does that sound familiar? So, if you're going to tear down the walls of 5,000 years of law and Judeo-Christian tradition with regard to homosexuality, perhaps you should consider the next domino to fall. Will it be incest? Will it be pederasty? If not, why not? If the Bible is not the authority -- the ultimate moral guide on such matters -- what is? Is it the word of the American Psychiatric Association? Is it popular opinion? Is it the ombudswoman at the Washington Post? Do you realize there are active efforts under way now to repeal laws against sex with minors? Ask yourself, if it's not biblical morality that stops us from moving down this slippery slope, what is it? Whatever it is, it's going to be a losing argument. Because lust has no natural boundaries. The thirst for perversion is never quenched. One form leads to another and another and another. Unless people rediscover the ancient truths of the Bible and Ultimate Authority who breathed them into words, we are, indeed, slouching toward Egypt, toward Canaan, toward Sodom. -- -- A daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be heard at http://www.ktkz.com/ **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C.
Re: [CTRL] Clinton's appeasement of N. Korea
-Caveat Lector- Well, one act has greatly diminished any "appeasement" of N.Korea and that's the fact that Roger Clinton is performing "live" there soon!!! W.W.III could WELL be only a few strained notes away!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Thanks for what?
-Caveat Lector- WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a prelude to war! ⢠Joseph Farah is editor of WorldNetDaily.com. ⢠-- -- -- -- Thanks for what? -- -- Thanksgiving, to me, is one of the most important and meaningful holidays on our calendar. There's a rich tradition for this holiday that dates back, not just through American history, but thousands of years through the history of the Jewish people. Too often, today, we dwell on the problems we face, on the obstacles in our way, on the hurdles blocking our progress as individuals and as a society. There are certainly many that we deal with in the news business on a daily basis. There are horrors and evils we must confront and expose. Yet, there is much for which to be thankful. I'm personally thankful for my wife, Elizabeth, my children, and my extended family for the personal, unconditional love and inspiration they give me to carry on. I'm thankful for the people who surround me in my work here at WorldNetDaily.com. I'm thankful for a small group of people who, like me, battle every day to confront injustice - Judicial Watch's Larry Klayman, my good friend and attorney, Rush and David Limbaugh, Geoff Metcalf, Jane Chastain, Chuck Harder, Michael Reagan, Melanie Morgan, Warren Duffy, George Putnam, Ray Briem, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Ted Baehr and others. These are folks who will never run for political office but make a far more important contribution to our culture through their conscience-driven activism. I'm thankful for a small group of journalistic colleagues, as well. I think, especially, of Bill Gertz, Matt Drudge, Robert Morton, Doug Thompson, and Paul Sperry - all of whom stand up to the establishment, to the conventions of our day, in their relentless desire to seek truth. I'm thankful for those who came before us in America and left us with at least the vestiges of freedom - from George Washington to Ronald Reagan. I'm thankful there are hundreds of thousands of people out there in America and throughout the world who turn to WorldNetDaily for their news every day. I'm thankful for some of my closest friends who have been with me through some trying times in my life - especially Jesse Corti and Mark Masters. I'm thankful I'm alive, I'm healthy and I am able to speak out on the issues of the day. I'm thankful I've been blessed with a talent to inform people, to entertain them, and to make them think. All of these thanks are directed one place - toward Heaven, to God. That's what Thanksgiving is really all about. Don't forget it as you sit down to enjoy your turkey today. This is a very spiritual American holiday - or at least it should be. Remember to invite God to your table today. Ask Him to continue blessing America - to purge it of evil and to shower it with His love. We don't deserve what we have, America. So it would be a good time to get down on your knees and thank God for His grace, His mercy and His bountiful blessings. That's what I'll be doing today. And I'll be thinking of all of you and hoping and praying you do the same. The Psalms of Thanksgiving: "That I may publish with the voice of thanksgiving, and tell of all thy wondrous works" (Psalms 26:7). "Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High" (Psalms 50:14). "I will praise the name of God with a song, and will magnify him with thanksgiving" (Psalms 69:30). "Let us come before his presence with thanksgiving, and make a joyful noise unto him with psalms" (Psalms 95:2). "Enter into his gates with thanksgiving, and into his courts with praise: be thankful unto him, and bless his name" (Psalms 100:4). "And let them sacrifice the sacrifices of thanksgiving, and declare his works with rejoicing" (Psalms 107:22). "I will offer to thee the sacrifice of thanksgiving, and will call upon the name of the LORD" (Psalms 116:17). "Sing unto the LORD with thanksgiving; sing praise upon the harp unto our God" (Psalms 147:7). -- -- A daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be heard at http://www.ktkz.com/ **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid
[CTRL] CSA Constitution
-Caveat Lector- Via http://www.lewrockwell.com/ From http://www.freedixie.net/const/const_page.html Note: Some linques provided; others are embedded in the text at the site. AER {{Begin}} The Confederate States Constitution The Confederate Constitution is undergoing a renaissance. In fact, some scholars, including constitutional historian Marshall DeRosa, even consider it a improvement in several respects over its predecessor and principal source of inspiration, the the U.S. Constitution of 1787. In honor of the Confederate Constitution, we're pleased to present what is presumably the first C.S. Constitution page, replete with a comprehensive FAQ. This is far from a complete page, but over the next few months we hope to add other resources, including essays and speeches by Confederate-era statesmen discussing the merits of the C.S. Constitution. Confederate Constitution: An Overview Who and what inspired the Confederate Constitution. How many Confederate Constitutions were there? Who had a hand in drafting the document. Was the Confederate Constitution virtually a carbon copy of the U.S. Constitution or were there some significant changes? Read this FAQ and find out for yourself. If you don't have time to read the FAQ, check out this short essay on the Confederate Constitution. http://www.freedixie.net/const/confed.html To understand the Confederate Constitution, one should have a firm grasp of states rights theory. So, if your understanding of states rights is a little rusty, read our States Rights FAQ. http://www.freedixie.net/const/rights.html We've also added complete texts of the Provisional and Permanent Confederate Constitutions as well as the first clause-by-clause comparison of the U.S. and C.S. Constitutions available on-line. http://www.freedixie.net/const/proviscon.html http://www.freedixie.net/const/permcon.html Preamble and Article I http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare.html Article II http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare2.html Article III http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare3.html Article IV http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare4.html Article V http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare5.html Article VI http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare6.html Article VII http://www.freedixie.net/const/compare7.html What They Said About The C.S. Constitution Like their 18th century predecessors, the men who drafted the Confederate Constitution were understandably proud of their work. Decades after the War Between the States, Alabama statesman and educator Jabez Curry argued in Chapter III of his Civil History of the Confederate Government that the Confederate States Constitution of 1861 was a vast improvement over its predecessor, the U.S. Constitution of 1787. He was not alone. Writing in A Constitutional View of the Late War Between the States, former Confederate Vice President Alexander Stephens described the Permanent Constitution as "a monument of the wisdom, forecast and statesmanship of the men who constituted it." In a famous speech delivered only a few days after the Confederate Constitution was drafted, Alabama delegate Robert Hardy Smith also expressed similar sentiments. {{End}} AER ~~~ Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960) + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." --Buddha + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + It is preoccupation with possessions, more than anything else, that prevents us from living freely and nobly. -Bertrand Russell + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Everyone has the right...to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." Universal Declaration of Human Rights + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + "Always do sober what you said you'd do drunk. That will teach you to keep your mouth shut." Ernest Hemingway + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum
[CTRL] Despite international protests, Ukraine restarts Chernobyl
-Caveat Lector- Despite international protests, Ukraine restarts Chernobyl Copyright © 1999 Nando Media Copyright © 1999 Associated Press http://www.nandotimes.com/healthscience/story/0,1080,500061725-500102010-50 0437107-0,00.html By MARINA SYSOYEVA KIEV, Ukraine (November 26, 1999 7:19 a.m. EST http://www.nandotimes.com) - The Ukrainian authorities Friday restarted the last working nuclear reactor at the Chernobyl power plant, ignoring strong international pressure to shut it down. Reactor No. 3 was restarted at 5:30 a.m. Friday after almost five months of repairs. It was initially running at about 5 percent of capacity and was gradually increasing its output, said a spokeswoman for the plant who declined to give her name. She would not say when the reactor was expected to reach full power. Officials at Chernobyl insist that reactor No. 3 is safe and is free of any potential Y2K bugs - the glitches where a computer might misread the last two digits of a date and mistake the year 2000 for 1900. Western governments and environmental groups have long urged Ukraine to close the plant, and a 1995 agreement between Ukraine and the Group of Seven leading industrialized nations said the plant should be closed by the year 2000. "We're completely opposed to restarting Chernobyl," Ben Pearson, an anti-nuclear campaigner in the Amsterdam office of the environmental group Greenpeace, said earlier this week. "Chernobyl is probably the most dangerous reactor in the world." The Ukrainian government says it is planning to shut down Chernobyl sometime next year. But the government says it needs $1.2 billion from the West to finish construction of two new reactors to replace the output that will be lost by closing Chernobyl. The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, which has played a leading role in the discussions on financing, was supposed to make a loan decision in September. But it has taken no action, and other potential lenders are expected to wait for the EBRD before they commit any money. The Chernobyl plant originally had four working nuclear reactors. However, reactor No. 4 exploded in April 1986, spewing radiation over much of Europe. Ukrainian authorities have blamed 8,000 deaths on the world's worst-ever nuclear accident. That reactor has been encased in a steel-and-concrete sarcophagus, and the two others have been permanently shut down. One was destroyed in the 1986 accident. Meanwhile, workers have begun repairs on the sarcophagus, which was hastily constructed after the accident to prevent additional radiation leaks. The workers will strengthen the sarcophagus' concrete beams, working through December from both inside and outside the huge structure. Ukraine continues to operate 14 reactors at five power plants, which supply about 40 percent of the country's energy. While some Ukrainians want to see Chernobyl and other Soviet-designed nuclear plants shut, Ukrainian authorities face much greater pressure from governments and environmental groups in the West. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fw: :Why did the US attack Yugoslavia? (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- -- -Original Message- From: MichaelP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 17:31 Subject: Why did the US attack Yugoslavia? (fwd) On another list "The philosophy, work influences of Noam Chomsky" [EMAIL PROTECTED] someone asked for a succinct (less than 300 word) statement explaining the U$-NATO actions in Kosovo. This is the first response I've seen MichaelP The answer is simple. The ex-Soviet Bloc is a huge terrain with many valuable resources, that stretched from Poland, all the way around to Mongolia.The Balkans are an important region of geopolitical and military significance. The US intervention effectively cut off the advance of German imperialism into the region. It also cut European ties to Turkey, that could have challenged US hegemony from being maintained. Most importantly, it soidified the US/ Turkey alliance to advance into the Turkish speaking, oil producing regions of the former Soviet Union. This struggle to capture the oil of the Caspian Basin away from Russia, probably was the principle cause for US intervention. Now, the US has established the "Right" to intervene for "humanitarian reasons".Plus, it has established it's military presence in Eastern Europe. This strategy of supporting alienated national minorities in their search to realign themselves with powerful protectors, is the strategy that Hitler used to launch his original military offensives. We can now see a virtual army of lobbyists, for "the rights of oppressed mniorities", lining up in Washington, D.C. to build support for US assistance. They come from around the globe; Africa, Asia, and Europe. It's a life or death choice for many, to be in alliance with US imperialism, as opposed to being it's enemy.Still, American activists need to differentiate, between oppressed minorities within the Imperialist Bloc, and those oppressed minorities who are allying themselves with imperialist interests, to gain protection for their own causes. It is clear that many US, Australian, and European activists have difficulty in accepting any difference between the 2 groups of oppressed nationalities. As a result, their campaigns of support for the Right of Self Determination, often are echoes of imperialist war propaganda. While their voices remain supportive, but largely muted, in mobilizing support for those national minorities opposing US imperialism. What is even worse. is that many activists did not support building a movement against US intervention during the war. They have not supported building a movement to try Clinton, Blair, etc. for war crimes afterwards, either. Their voices are absent, and their presence is elsewhere, as the US military domination of US society continues unabated. This is a great victory for the US government. Demobilizing opposition to militaristic imperialism, by confusing the population with "humanistic" propaganda.There are many on the Left who will deactivate themselves, when the "enemy" is seen as impure. We need to convince them, not to do so. Sincerely..Tony Abdo. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Hitler And The Holy Lance
-Caveat Lector- Hitler And The Holy Lance http://user.fastinet.net/kalogonis/index/hitler.htm Many strange stories about Nazi Germany have come down to us in the years since the fall of the Third Reich. But none is more strange or incredible than the one about Hitler and the Spear of Longinus. According to tradition, the Spear of Longinus was the spear which had pierced the side of Christ as he hung upon the cross. Biblical prophecy had decreed that not a bone of the Messiah's body would be broken, and it is believed by many that the piercing of Christ's body by Longinus' Spear helped for that prophecy to be fulfilled. For the breaking of the legs of the two thieves foretold the fate to which Jesus' body would have been subjected had not Longinus proven to the other Roman soldiers that Christ was already dead. Thus, the early Christian community at Jerusalem understood the fact that Jesus' bones had not been broken as being further proof that he really was who he said he was---the Messiah predicted by the Old Testament prophets (not the least of whom was Daniel, who had actually predicted the exact day that the Messiah would be proclaimed to be the King of Israel). At any rate, a legend came to center around the spear which Hitler believed in very strongly; that whosoever possessed the spear and understood its powers for serving good and evil could conquer the world. The spear which Hitler believed to be the True Spear had a history which could be traced at least as far back as Constantine the Great, the Roman Emperor who had legalized Christianity. In addition to Constantine, the spear had been possessed by such men as Theodosius, Alaric (who sacked Rome), Theodoric who turned back Attila the Hun, Justinian, Charles Martel (who had defeated the Moslems at the Battle of Poitiers), Charlemagne, 5 Saxon emperors who succeeded the Carolingian Dynasty, 7 Hohenstauffen emperors including Frederick Barbarossa and Frederick II, and others as well. Germanic tradition held that Charlemagne had kept the spear with him throughout 47 victorious battles, and had only died when he accidentally dropped it. Barbarossa, like Charlemagne, died within minutes of dropping it as he crossed a stream. Following these warriors, apart from Hitler, no conqueror had paid the legend any heed during the next 500 years with the exception of Napoleon who attempted to take it following the Battle of Austerlitz. Unfortunately for him, it had already been smuggled out of Vienna just prior to the battle, and he never obtained it. Today, the Lance belongs to the House of Hapsburg, and rests in the Hoffburg Museum in Vienna, just as it did in 1938 when Hitler seized it in the name of the Reich. After having declared Austria to be a part of the Reich, der Fuehrer had it loaded on to an armored SS train and taken to Nuremberg on October 13. There it remained in St. Catherine's Church for the next 6 years until it was removed to a safer, protective underground vault where Lt. Walter William Horn, serial number 01326328, of the United States Army took possession of it in the name of the US government at 2:10 PM on April 30, 1945. With the fall the Soviet Union, and the opening up of Soviet archives in addition to recent testimony by former Soviet soldiers who actually captured Hitler's Bunker in Berlin, we have finally been able to confirm that at approximately 3:30 PM, just 80 minutes after the United States took possession of the Spear, that Hitler committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. A strange story, indeed. But true nevertheless. And in conjunction with that story, in an effort to disseminate the truth about Nazi occult activity, and other related topics, this Web Site is dedicated to publicizing the links between Nazism and the occult as well as other possible links between the occult and other modern political organizations. I hope you are well rewarded by your time spent exploring in this Web Site, and that you will write to me and express your thoughts on the subject. Bill Kalogonis We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] Clinton's appeasement of N. Korea
-Caveat Lector- -- From: Bill Richer [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's this imminent threat that is either totally unrecognized by the Clinton administration or, for reasons unknown, is being ignored. You don't have far to look Bill. China likes N. Korea...ring any bells? Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Thanks for what?
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 11/26/99 5:53:44 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm thankful for a small group of people who, like me, battle every day to confront injustice - Judicial Watch's Larry Klayman, my good friend and attorney, Rush and David Limbaugh, Geoff Metcalf, Jane Chastain, Chuck Harder, Michael Reagan, Melanie Morgan, Warren Duffy, George Putnam, Ray Briem, Dr. Laura Schlessinger, James Dobson, Jerry Falwell, Sean Hannity, Ted Baehr and others. These are folks who will never run for political office but make a far more important contribution to our culture through their conscience-driven activism Jesus Christ This lot, with FEW exceptions ought to be rounded up and used for Nazi/Unit 731-type medical experiments...Klayman? See how far a guy bounces off a speeding car. Mikey Reagan? Let's discover how quickly a mind goes after daddy's cash is no longer free-flowing. "Dr" Laura??? I'll PERSONALLY oversee this hypocrite's SLOW demise... Gawd dude, haven't you ANYTHING real to be thankful for? How bloody depressing!!! Bill. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BioPiracy issue - WTO/Seattle- activist organizational info
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave GUARDIAN (London) Monday November 22, 1999 Genetic patenting row looms over WTO talks Developing world accuses US, Europe of 'bio-piracy' by John Vidal A major row is threatening to break out at the opening of the World Trade Organisation's talks in Seattle next week over the patenting of the genetic make-up of plants and animals to develop new drugs. The US and Europe insist that corporations should be allowed to patent all plants and animals despite existing international laws and understandings which provide for protection of natural resources. India, Malaysia, Zimbabwe and other African and Latin American countries have accused the US and Europe of "bio-piracy". The Indians are particularly worried because US and European corporations have started to patent their traditional herbal medecines. In heated backroom talks in Geneva designed to iron out differences before the inter-governmental meeting, Mike Moore, the head of the organisation responsible for setting the world's trading laws, is reported to have dismissed developing countries' objections by saying that the WTO overrides all other international treaties. The US/EU proposals would force all countries to broaden their patenting laws, but the developing countries are resisting strongly. They say that patents on all life forms should be excluded from the negotiations of the Trade Related Intellectual Property (Trips) agreement which is scheduled for renegotiation in the talks. If that is not possible, they argue that patents should be excluded for products and processes based on traditional knowledge. The gap between the two blocs is now extreme with the US and Europe responding that wider patents will improve health care and stimulate wealth. More than 500 non-governmental groups from more than 50 countries have written to President Clinton urging the US to temper its patenting demands. They are not likely to succeed because the powerful US biotechnology and pharmaceutical industries have long wanted global patenting laws based on the US model. The problem which the US must overcome is that the patenting proposals clash with other international laws. Another sticking point is agriculture, with the rich countries trying to force a further opening up of markets to their goods. The developing world, say India and others, must be allowed to protect and support their farmers up to the point of self-sufficiency. Prospects for the Seattle talks setting an agreed agenda are not considered high. "I have never seen such confusion in 21 years of international talks," says trade analyst Chakrabathi Raghavan in Geneva. = WTO parody site http://www.rtmark.com/wto/homewto.html Countdown to Downtown http://www.globalizethis.org/home.html Direct Action Network http://www.agitprop.org/artandrevolution/wto/dan.html This one contains ... Convergence Welcome Center located at 420 E Denny Way in Capital Hill You can get up to the minute convergence and action information by calling the Direct Action Information Hotline at (206)654-6779 We are planning for nine days of street theater, giant puppet, dance and music making/ skillsharing/performing, nonviolent direct action trainings and affinity(action) group formations, community building fun, meetings to coordinate it all and prepare ourselves for the WTO, do outreach and performance around Seattle, and more. This convergence will bring people together to create new ways of effective resistance and to build communities capable of making radical change and social revolution. We infuse social change movements and organizations with theater, giant puppets, graffiti art, dance and music. This November we are combining the skills of activists and artists from around the nation to prepare for the World Trade Organization Ministerial meting in Seattle. A week-long series of trainings, workshops, networking opportunities, and art making will converge in Seattle to organize a wake up call the world has never seen. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [CTRL] Ancient One
-Caveat Lector- Ancient One thought this was very sad. He called Red People, Black People, Yellow People, and White People to him and said to them. "The ways taught to you by your Elders, and your Mothers and Fathers, and Teachers, and Books are sacred. It is good that you respect those ways, for they are the ways of your ancestors. But the ancestors no longer walk on the Face of the Earth Mother. You have forgotten your own Vision. Your Vision is right for you but no one else. Now each of you must pray for your own Vision, and be still enough to see it, so you can follow the way of the heart. It is a hard way. It is a good way. But said Modern One, Black People, White People, Yellow People and Red People, Grey People and Green People could forget about Being Outwith the One Temple of the Earth Mother and come together, Nations United to Worship under the One Temple of a New Ordering of the World. And this would be a goodly thing for no longer Profane - we would all acknowledge our similarities and give praise to the Illuminated Great Architect of the Universe, in whose palm is the World of the Grey Peoples, the World of the Green Peoples and the World of the Earth Mother. Ah, said Ancient One . sounds like a goodly scam. Right On, said Modern One. Andrew Hennessey We are about to go on a Journey. All Aboard http://sites.netscape.net/gsussnzl/poleshift DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Roboconspiracy.
-Caveat Lector- -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 17:38:05 -0800 (PST) From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SNET: Outer Limits: Letter to the European Society of Philosophy and Psychology. - SNETNEWS Mailing List "Outer Limits" TV series has outclassed the X Files series. A recurring theme is "Robots vs. Humans" and no-one portrays it better than these guys. Are those clever robots so clever that they are using humans to evolve their soon-to-be-dominant species? Kinda makes you wonder, eh? In the last Outer Limits issue (last week) the robots were in control, using human slaves to take care of some aspects of their RM. Of course there is a slave rebellion. In the previous issue the humans had the upper hand and the robots were in rebellion. FWP. http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology-EEL.htm On Thu, 25 Nov 1999, Franklin Wayne Poley wrote: From: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear ESPP Members: Since my system cannot read the attachments I'll take a chance that the theme for ESPP 2000 has not yet been set. That being so, may I suggest "Artificial Life"? The AL field to date has been almost exclusively dominated by AI/Computing people but I think philosophers and psychologists should have a lot to say about it. Is it an important field? Well, if robots meet the criteria for a new life form, humankind has created a new species on the planet...a species which may soon prove to be far more intelligent, with greater learning ability than the hitherto "most highly evolved species". I think that is important. And I think it is inevitable that it will happen, some time in C21. Sincerely-FWP. http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology-EEL.htm --- ONElist Sponsor GET WHAT YOU DESERVE! A NextCard Platinum VISA: Get an APR as low as 2.9 Intro NO annual fee! Apply online today! a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/nextcard16 "Click Here/a * Life Gazette chronicles the development of world cultures which have Constitutions recognizing the supremacy of God, from Liberian to Iranian to "Culture X" * "Total automation is attainable-NOW!" http://users.uniserve.com/~culturex/Machine-Psychology.htm - Send "subscribe snetnews " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: Franklin Wayne Poley [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] IUFO: Permanent Robotic Outposts in Space (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- And what if those robotic outposts have programs built into them for autonomous evolution (ie growth and development)? FWP. -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 20:44:17 EST From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Subject: IUFO: Permanent Robotic Outposts in Space - IUFO Mailing List JPL Chief Predicts Permanent Robotic Outposts in Space 7.00 a.m. ET (1100 GMT) November 25, 1999 By Matthew Fordahl PASADENA, Calif. â In a lecture that sometimes sounded more like science fiction than science, a NASA official said the next era of space exploration will involve missions that last for years rather than weeks and will eventually pave the way for manned probes to the planets. Edward Stone, director of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, said he foresaw a network of orbiting communications satellites on Mars as well as rovers that drive around for miles and construct the robotic outposts. "It's a logical next step," he said Nov. 16. "But it will depend on the development of technology so that we can bring `up there' back here through the power of communications." Stone, chief scientist of the Voyager project to the outer planets and director of NASA's lead center for interplanetary probes since 1991, made his comments during the Carl Sagan Memorial Lecture at the American Astronautical Society's annual meeting. Stone did not mention the recent loss of the $125 million Mars Climate Orbiter, which was managed at his lab, or the NASA investigation report that criticized JPL navigators and managers for failing to catch the metric error that doomed the craft. The orbiter and the Mars Polar Lander, which is scheduled to arrive at the Red Planet on Dec. 3, are part of the space agency's plan to send smaller spacecraft into space more often and at less cost than in the past. Rather than dwell on tight budgets, Stone suggested that the "faster, better, cheaper" mantra espoused by NASA Administrator Daniel Goldin is actually the natural course of space exploration. The first probes launched to other planets in the 1960s proved the technology, he said. The second-era spacecraft, which were launched in the 1970s and 1980s, were loaded with expensive instruments that were well suited for global studies of the planets. But the billions of dollars spent on massive probes like the Viking landers on Mars as well as Voyager and Cassini to the outer planets were worth the cost, he said. "This era of going once a decade with these large comprehensive missions has given us enough information so that we are now smart enough to ask the most important questions," Stone said. The $165 million Mars Polar Lander is part of the third generation of spacecraft: It has a limited science agenda of searching for water and studying the atmosphere â answering questions raised by the big probes and proving technology for the next era. A more in-depth understanding of other planets, including whether life was ever present, will require robotic outposts over a period of years rather than the current 30 to 60 days, he said. Such missions will use existing energy sources on the planets rather than importing fuel from Earth. A fleet of communications satellites will provide nearly constant contact with home. And onboard instruments will drill deep into the planet, unlike the literal scratching of the surface by today's probes. Stone, who did not make cost or time estimates, also predicted rovers will explore the surface of other planets. Unlike Sojourner aboard Mars Pathfinder, future vehicles will be able to cross much greater distances, he said. Sagan, who popularized space science in books and television before his death in 1996, said the greatest benefit of exploration is that it helps people understand their place in the universe. "Perspective is the most fundamental return of what we get from exploration," Stone said. "Although we have just begun the third era of exploration, we nevertheless have to have a large view of the future so that we can be prepared and shape that future." [EMAIL PROTECTED] © 1999, News America Digital Publishing, Inc. d/b/a Fox News Online. All rights reserved. Fox News is a registered trademark of 20th Century Fox Film Corp. © 1999 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. - Send "subscribe iufo " to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Posted by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests
Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a homophobe
-Caveat Lector- - Original Message - : : : : There were no laws or traditions against incest -- except: those, perhaps, written on the hearts of men by God from the beginning of : time. Ask yourself, if it's not biblical morality that stops us from moving down : this slippery slope, what is it? How about the morality that is written on the "hearts of men (and women) by God from the beginning of time"?? I don't believe in God, but I believe in knowing what is right. I believe in personal ethics and responsibilty. When I falter I do not think the devil got me - I strive to do better next time, and do. I don't need a book to tell me what is right or wrong, I know it in my heart. What I don't understand is why otherwise intelligent people seem to need this. Would you not know what is right or wrong without the bible? If you had never read it, you wouldn't know if you had done wrong?? : Because lust has no natural boundaries. The thirst for perversion : is never quenched. One form leads to another and another and another. Is this from personal experience? I think it's interesting that so many men who feel so righteous about God more often than not always bring it down to sex. Saying thisngs like the above - "the thirst for perversion is never quenched". It comes across as a personal grappling with some frightening issue I could never imagine. As if men are slavering horny beasts barely restraining their urges to rape women and sodomize whatever they can get their hands on. That has never been my expereince with men or women. Never. daily radio broadcast adaptation of Joseph Farah's commentaries can be : heard at http://www.ktkz.com/ : : : : : : **COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, : any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use : without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest : in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational : purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] : : : (Note: I couldn't have said it better myself - Bill) : : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER : == : CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic : screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters : and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright : frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects : spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL : gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; : be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and : nazi's need not apply. : : Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. : : Archives Available at: : http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html : : http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ : : To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: : SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] : : Om : DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Phony Oswald DONT RESEND ON LIST!
-Caveat Lector- NO GEEZE IT IS ALMOST 700KB!! I had an awful time getting my email since - it kept timing out so DONT DO THAT AGAIN! Please just send directly to those people who want it and in the future please as the list to let you know if anyone wants it to contact you person to person instead of the list! Thank you for your consideration of this matter and this list! Kirimaku - Original Message - From: Hilary A. Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 2:30 PM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Phony Oswald in Mexico -Caveat Lector- I can't open these files. Can you send the text not as an attachment, but within an email? Thanks, Hilary DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substance-not soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] J. PIERPONT MORGAN
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: McCLURE'S MAGAZINE.©1901 VOL. XVII. -- OCTOBER, 1901. -- No. 6. J. PIERPONT MORGAN. By RAY STANNARD BAKER, Author of Character Sketches of Theodore Roosevelt, Admiral Sampson, General Leonard Wood, etc. A FEW months ago an American citizen without title or office landed in England, and so apprehensive was Threadneedle Street of his power in the financial world, and of the effect which his sudden death might have on the markets, that certain brokers, to protect themselves, in their American investments, immediately took the extraordinary measure of applying to Lloyd's for insurance on his life, paying premiums at the rate of thirty pounds on the thousand for three months. This citizen was J. Pierpont Morgan, who had just organized the most powerful industrial and financial institution the world has ever known. It matters not whether he was a large owner in the United States Steel Corporation; as its recognized and actual dictator, he controlled a yearly income and expenditure nearly as great as that of imperial Germany, paid taxes on a debt greater than that of many of the lesser nations of Europe, and by employing two hundred and fifty thousand men, supported a population of over one million souls, almost a nation in itself. Iron and steel making has long been known as the basic industry. England's greatness and Germany's recent progress were due largely to their ability to produce iron and steel cheaply and in, large quantities. Mr. Morgan, as iron-master, controlling the world's greatest and cheapest sources of iron supply, threatened the trade and profits of England and Germany, both of which had already felt the sharp tooth of American competition. It is no wonder, therefore, that be was regarded at the moment as the American peril incarnate. While in England Mr. Morgan boughtwhether for himself or for American clients, it matters not-one of the greatest of English steamship companies the Leyland line, operating thirty-eight vessels between Europe and America. This move, following so closely upon the organization of the Steel Trust, was interpreted at first as a blow to England's supremacy on the seas. It was natural and inevitable that Europe should anxiously inquire as to the further intentions of this man, to whom the purchase of a great steamship line seemed only the incident of a holiday. About the same time still another episode brought into high relief Mr. Morgan's power. A panic occurred in the London Stock Exchange, resulting from the great financial struggle between Mr. Morgan and certain opposing interests for the control of the Northern Pacific Railway. A number of English traders must have faced ruin, with serious subsequent effects to the whole market, if Mr. Morgan bad not stepped in and relieved the situation by accepting small payments from the distressed traders where he might have exacted his pound of flesh. No one could follow the accounts of his doings in England, and of the deep concern which his presence caused, without realizing the meaning of power. Mr. Morgan, no doubt, controls and influences more money and money interests to-day than any other man in the world. Perhaps no one, not even Mr. Morgan himself, fully realizes the responsibility and gravity of that power. Certain it is that the death to-day of Mr. Morgan would disturb more capital and shake more settled business institutions than the death of almost any sovereign in Europe. If Mr. Morgan were merely rich, he would not be worth thoughtful attention except as a social problem ; but his own riches constitute the least of his claims to distinction. Nowadays a rich man has little more opportunity to reach a commanding place in the world than a poor man, and often his very riches hamper his advancement. Native force and genius, sustained with bard work, govern progress among men of wealth as in any other class. Twenty-five years ago Mr. Morgan was practically unknown even in Wall Street, and be could hardly be called wealthy as wealth is now measured. By deep thinking and hard work be has reached, at the age of sixty-four years, the foremost place in American finance. He is the most advanced expression Of a new world movement, that of "community of interest," of consolidation; he saw that great combinations were to constitute the next step in the development of industry and commerce, and be took early advantage of his sagacity. Mr. Morgan, therefore, is to be considered not as a millionaire, but as a man of original force. Whether or not be has used his unquestioned genius to the highest purpose, whether or not he deserves all the credit or all the abuse that be has received, are questions the future alone will be able to answer. Americans of great wealth may be divided into two classes: those who are self-made and those who inherit their riches. The self-made millionaire, although by no means unknown in old Europe, is peculiarly an American product, and there is no
[CTRL] Y2K - engineered BANG or WHIMPER
-Caveat Lector- Y2K = engineered BANG or WHIMPER We can feel the hype - guns, UN mobilisation, implants, detention camps, oil disasters - martial law - reptile invasions - more alleged comets to hype it all up - Great Pyramid baloney etc etc so we ask - how does our world end with the Y2K BANG . or is there a another explanation ?? I would like to look at the Y2K WHIMPER. The Secret establishment for years has been building up its stores - underground cities - alien deals, offworld colonies - a veritable Empire of underworld and interplanetary connections. The massive military industrial complex has succeeded in organising human anarchy and chaos into a fairly dependable chain of supply and demand and despite the reds under the bed scares - has used war and economy and wage slavery to tame the naturally anarchic masses. They have their dreams of course ... total mainframe control, implants but there are too many of us. They have embarked upon population control measures that have been brutally enforced and the world is succesfully chained to their Capital based reality. They know that the Planet may be due all sorts of disasters and that time is running out for the status quo but what they need the most are their factories running, their production outlets going at full throttle - happy slaves turning over as fast as possible as hard as possible - right up to the last moment that they are not needed - for then - the masters simply climb underground or jump on a starship - discarding their drones as they head off to colonise some other hapless world. The date of Drone/Hive Discard cannot be Y2K its far too soon. They cannot afford to disrupt the population and the factory turnovers - they will simply keep on doing what they're doing now - business as usual = misinformation as usual, confusion as usual - and their covert e-war and psyops will remain in the shadows - for I think perhaps that they will present no easy target or political handle to gel any opposition to - divide and conquer - politics and lies - the factories must keep running - the stocks must keep building - for the human race hasn't long left before crustal shifts etc etc I don't think we'll see an anti-christ or holograms or aliens - it will all be a carefully orchestrated confusion and anticlimax - nothing too much to disturb the stock market and the busy drones. So, I'm not holding my breath for Y2K . because the closest I think we'll get to 'real x-files' is the tv series - they need us confused and uninformed - perhaps many of us really want some event which may make a change to our reality - the busy ANTZ dream away of heroquests but the 'dark satanic mills' keep churning out the supplies for the New Colonies until every last drop has been squeezed from this planet. After that . who needs those old Drones ??? Andrew Hennessey Transformation Studies Group Edinburgh Scotland DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Despite international protests, Ukraine restarts Chernobyl
-Caveat Lector- At 05:44 PM 26, 11, , 1999 -0700, you wrote: -Caveat Lector- Despite international protests, Ukraine restarts Chernobyl strategic blackmail - better look after us and don't have a war near our backyard and we'll make another mess if you don't invest in us. Andrew DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] OKC bombing - FBI Special Agent accused of perjury -new trials for McVeigh and Nichols?
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave --- Department of Justice's Office of Inspector General scalds Oklahoma City FBI Evidence Program . . . FBI Special Agent accused of perjury www.ar-chronicle.com OKLAHOMA CITY (NOV 24 1999) A detailed 206-page secret report of an internal U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) probe was issued on November 18, 1999. In it are details of serious internal problems and flaws in the Oklahoma City FBI Field Office. That office investigated the 1995 death of federal prisoner Kenneth Michael Trentadue. That same office spearheaded the investigation of the Oklahoma City Murrah Federal Building bombing. Investigations into both cases, believed to be unrelated, ran concurrently out of the Oklahoma City Field Office. Chronicle reporters had requested a copy of the report over a year ago and had been assured a copy from the Justice Department's Office of the Inspector General (OIG) when it was completed, and initially assumed that the report had been sent on that basis. The report, which discusses the alleged suicide of a federal prisoner, also roundly condemned the handling of physical evidence in the FBI's Oklahoma City Field Office. OIG investigators recommended that four DOJ employees, including a veteran FBI agent, be prosecuted for perjury before the federal grand jury and/or false statements to federal investigators as a result of their conduct in the Trentadue case. Shortly before press time, Chronicle reporters learned than an internal probe was underway at the U.S. Department of Justice, the goal of which is to determine how Arkansas Chronicle reporters obtained an "unredacted" copy of the internal and apparently secret Justice Department report. According to a letter faxed to U.S. District Court Judge Tim Leonard in Oklahoma City, on November 24, 1999, by Robert Ashbaugh, Acting Inspector General, OIG investigators are now investigating how the report, which Ashbaugh claims contains secret grand jury material, fell into the hands of reporters. The Chronicle's copy of the report was one which was never intended for release outside the Department of Justice according to OIG spokesman Paul Martin. According to the OIG, such reports are released only after careful removal of information that the DOJ feels is too sensitive for public review. The OIG immediately requested return of the report. --- While the OIG report also concluded that Trentadue committed suicide, and the bulk of the OIG report deals with Trentadue related issues, it also touches on matters not directly related to the case. The voluminous OIG report contains a scathing assessment of the Oklahoma City Field Office of the Federal Bureau of Investigation. It cites FBI managers there as being uncooperative, and says they failed to protect physical evidence the OIG requested, allowing it to go to a paper shredder even after promising to protect it in order to facilitate possible criminal prosecution of an Oklahoma City based FBI agent. OIG investigators include in their report a section entitled, "Systemic Problems with the FBI Oklahoma City Evidence Program." That section of the OIG report may soon spell yet more trouble for an already embattled FBI Field Office. The OIG report describes in detail how an Oklahoma City FBI employee was hired as mail clerk but placed in the position of "Evidence Control Technician (ECT)," after receiving "inadequate training." The entire training of the person consisted of "two weeks of on-the-job training," according to OIG findings. The ECT was drawn into the investigation when a dispute arose as to when a FBI agent turned-in evidence in the Trentadue case. The OIG report claims he was found to have lied about it. The ECT and the evidence control process are likely to soon be at the center of yet another controversy. According to a FBI source in Oklahoma City, "She [the ECT] had, at one time or another, complete access and sometimes custody over a lot of the OKBOMB evidence." "OKBOMB" is the code name the FBI assigned to its investigation of the bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in April, 1995. The report states the ECT was observed by a supervisor as being someone who "was not grasping the training." In an OIG interview, the technician admitted that she "had not been trained as of August 1995 in all of the areas that [I] needed in order to perform [my] duties." The technician was finally sent by Oklahoma City FBI managers for training at FBI Headquarters, but that training came in March, 1997, some eighteen months after being placed in the job. The OIG investigators apparently see serious overall implications of having an untrained person handling critical evidence in criminal cases. "Based on our review, we became concerned about broader problems in the way evidence was handled by the FBI/OKC, particularly the manner in which chain of custody of evidence was documented. For
[CTRL] WTO Satellitecast, IndyMedia, Paper Tiger TV
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave *** DEEP DISH TELEVISION THE INDEPENDENT MEDIA CENTER - SEATTLE in collaboration with Paper Tiger TV, Freespeech TV, Whispered Media, Changing America and hundreds of grassroots media activists present Showdown in Seattle: Five Days that Shook the WTO FIVE EMERGENCY TRANSMISSIONS SPECIAL DAILY SATELLITE FEEDS ON THE WORLD TRADE ORGANIZATION NOVEMBER 30, DEC 1, 2, 3, 4 everyday at 2PM EST (11AM Pacific) on W1, TRANSPONDER 13. 103° West Transmitted free to community cable and PBS stations in the US: *** Each day we will transmit a one hour satellite feed: one half hour about the activities in Seattle , and another half hour documentary about globalization. Day One November 30,1999, 2PM EST (11AM Pacific) Seattle Overview 30:00 Global Village or Global Pillage 30:00 This project shows constructive ways ordinary people around the world are addressing the impact of globalization on their communities, workplaces, and environments. It weaves together video of local and transnational activities, interviews, music, and original video comics to show that, through grassroots organizing combined with mutual support around the world, ordinary people can empower themselves to deal with the global economy. Produced by Jeremy Brecher, Tim Costello, Brendan Smith Day Two December 1, 1999, 2PM EST (11AM Pacific) Seattle Report: Global Sweatshop: Working in the New World Order 30:00 Crisis of Capital, Hope of Labor 30:00 This powerful video provides a fast moving compilation of the recent struggles of the Korean Labor Movement. General strikes, mobilizing thousands of workers and their families, have successfully shut down entire cities as labor has forced "neo-liberal" economic reforms to be reconsidered. Neo-liberal reforms in Korea, not unlike those imposed on countries like Indonesia, Brazil, and Mexico, have caused considerable social unrest, and have devastated the lives of working people across the globe. The Korean Labor Movement serves as an extraordinary example of people working together to resist these oftentimes inhumane economic practices, and to seek a future of their own choosing. Produced by Korean Labor News Production Day Three December 2, 1999, 2PM EST (11AM Pacific) Seattle Report: Grassroots VS Globalization: the Money and the Law 30:00 Cancel the Debt Now 30:00 Jubilee 2000 is a worldwide movement to cancel the unpayable debts of the most impoverished countries in the world by the end of the year 2000. This film explains the origin of these debts, and why they should be canceled. It shows the devastating impact of debt upon the people and the environment in poor countries, and it invites the American people to work in solidarity with people from the developing countries to help alleviate the suffering of hundreds of millions of people throughout Africa, Latin America and Asia. Produced by Anne Macksoud Day Four December 3, 1999, 2PM EST (11AM Pacific) Seattle Report: Hunger, the Land and the Banks 30:00 Haiti's Piggy Bank: The Loss and Recovery of the Creole Pig 30:00 In Haiti's rugged countryside, the Creole pig was a poor family's most important economic asset, a staple for both food and culture. When swine flue broke out in 1980, USAID pressured Haiti to eradicate this indigenous pig population. This video shows the self-interest of US aid, the interconnected nature of resources, and the trauma caused by harsh agricultural policies imposed from above. But it also teaches that resistance can bring renewal and hope: through grassroots and human rights assistance, the Creole pig has returned. This is an example of how local capacities can solve local problems. Produced by Robin Lloyd Day Five December 4, 1999, 2PM EST (11AM Pacific) Seattle Summary: Where Do We Go From Here? 30:00 Deadly Embrace: Nicaragua, The World Bank, and the IMF 30:00 The war in Nicaragua is not over; it has only become more invisible to the outside world. Deadly Embrace traces the history of U.S. involvement in the region, focusing on the current economic attack of the IMF, the World Bank and U.S. agencies. The tape combines footage of the everyday struggle to survive with a textbook-clear analysis of structural adjustment, the debt crisis and free trade. After five years of IMF and World Bank programs, Nicaragua has experienced the worst economic collapse in its history and has been reduced to one of the poorest countries in the world. Nicaragua's situation is not unique ? six million children die each year in the Third World because of IMF and World Bank policies. Produced by Liz Canner. CALL YOUR LOCAL CABLE STATION AND MAKE SURE THEY DOWNLINK THIS IMPORTANT SERIES. Watch for the webcast coverage at www.indymedia.org and www.freespeech.org FOR MORE INFORMATION Deep Dish Television, 339 Lafayette
Re: [CTRL] Why I am not a homophobe
-Caveat Lector- So, if you're going to tear down the walls of 5,000 years of law and Judeo-Christian tradition with regard to homosexuality, perhaps you should consider the next domino to fall. Will it be incest? Will it be pederasty? Or (shudder) the wearing of clothes made from the mixing of cotton and wool threads, also forbidden by Leviticus. I wonder, does Mr. Farah "round the corners" of his beard, also forbidden by Leviticus. Perhaps in the depths of his depravity he even practices Capitalism in open defiance of Acts 2:44. If the Bible is not the authority -- the ultimate moral guide on such matters -- what is? That's what they say about the Rig Veda, the Pali Sutras, the Koran and Mao's Little Red Book. Letting other people, particularly dead people, think for you is the way of children. Grow up. Put aside childish things. Think for yourself. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Malathion spraying exposed as experiment on NYC urban public- dangers well known by NYC gov't.
-Caveat Lector- Dave Hartley http://www.Asheville-Computer.com/dave OEM Chief Bails Out of Giuliani Bunker By Robert Lederman Office Of Emergency Management Director Jerome Hauer will give up his high profile spot in Giulianis close circle of doomsday bunker buddies according to the 11/25/99 NY Times. Hauers jumping ship on the Manhattan Mengele to become a counterterrorism expert for Science Applications International Corp. The multi-billion dollar consulting firm specializes in counterterrorism and has close ties to federal agencies Hauer is also closely associated with. The Times article quotes one-time Hauer colleague and Giuliani appointee Margaret A. Hamburg, who is now assistant secretary for planning and evaluation at the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. She gives Hauer and ex-boss Giuliani high ratings for the recent Malathion Marathon in New York City. Tweedle Dee certifying the work of Tweedle Dum. A growing amount of evidence seems to indicate that the perception that New York City had an encephalitis epidemic was manufactured by Federal agencies working with the Giuliani administration, pharmaceutical and chemical companies and a cooperative media. They needed to justify an unprecedented experiment involving massively spraying a chemical known to damage human immune systems on the most geographically concentrated multi-ethnic, multi-racial population on earth. It was the terrorist gas attack Jerry Hauer had repeatedly predicted, only the terrorists turned out to be our own elected officials and civil servants. In this war, even Giuliani was only a bit player following orders. According to the NY Times article, Hauers leaving because hes feeling stressed out. Who wouldnt feel stressed knowing that evidence is coming to the surface indicating that you had acted with reckless disregard for the health and safety of millions of people, violated state and federal laws, deliberately mislead the public, the media and elected officials into believing the risks of pesticide exposure were minimal and caused long-term damage to public health and the environment? Contrary to Hauers assurances that the Malathion being used was extremely diluted it was in fact extremely concentrated. The warning label from the actual canisters used describes it as consisting of 96% Malathion. The pilot in charge of the aerial spraying, John Sondergroth, has confirmed that anyone who received any spray directly got hit by 96% Malathion. The label also warns that the product is never to be sprayed on people, should never be used over bodies of water and that a minimum of 12 hours should pass before allowing humans to re-enter a sprayed area all directly contradicting Hauer and Giulianis assurances . Hauers name is also prominently linked to another incriminating document, The Mayors Chem-bio Handbook. This field manual for rescue workers at the scene of chemical and biological attacks describes Malathion, a toxic nerve gas, in great detail and lists extensive precautions for protecting those involved in rescuing Malathion exposure victims. The five by six inch canary yellow ring-bound manual with the names Giuliani, Hauer and Safir prominently displayed on its cover is stored inside every NYC ambulance, firetruck and police precinct. Giuliani found in Hauer an enthusiastic advocate for aerial spraying of chemicals on human populations, apparently a long cherished goal of the Mayors. It turns out that Giuliani pal Corporation Counsel Michael D. Hess, is also a big fan of Malathion. Hess has stated that his father was an exterminator and that he himself is an expert on insecticides. According to Hess, Malathion is completely safe, a claim even the products manufacturer denies. Although the Center for Disease Control (CDC) was deeply involved in the decision to aerially spray Malathion repeatedly over New York City, the agency has since released a report documenting serious health effects on humans exposed to the chemical and associating it with 123 injuries in Florida. A theory is being circulated by a public health researcher which states that exposure to Malathion and other widely used insecticides is itself a likely cause of mosquitoes becoming infected by the encephalitis virus [see article below]. Based on this theory massive spraying of Malathion is a virtual guarantee of next year being a record one for encephalitis cases, just in time for a new vaccine thats about to come on the market. While falling temperatures and the Mayors abuse of homeless people and art museums has pushed poison gas spraying off the medias radar screen for the moment, this is one story that will be coming back with a vengeance. Lawsuits, medical reports on Malathion victims and pending investigations continue to build momentum. Resistance to any further spraying and anger about the spraying already done is developing in community boards across the City. Simultaneously, residents of Long Island are
[CTRL] FW: (earthclan) FW: Govt-Riot Plan EXPOSED for NY on New Years Eve or a Subversive Filmmakers debut?
-Caveat Lector- -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Branfionn Sent: Friday, November 26, 1999 12:38 PM To: Earthclan Subject: (earthclan) FW: Govt-Riot Plan EXPOSED for NY on New Years Eve or a Subversive Filmmakers debut? Importance: High -Original Message- From: Ian Goddard (by way of Johnny Asia [EMAIL PROTECTED]) (by way of Sienna Wildfield [EMAIL PROTECTED]) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 25, 1999 10:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Govt-Riot Plan EXPOSED for NY on New Years Eve or a Subversive Filmmakers debut? Importance: High (forwarded) Something to chew on . . . - Post your comments at: http://venus.beseen.com/boardroom/d/16950 begin= The FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office recently had a webpage shutdown that had a video allegedly taken during a military briefing, according to a report in the Village Voice. The video reveals a secret Army plan to incite race riots at Times Square on New Year's Eve. The fact that the FBI and US Attorney's office intimidated the owner of the site and finally coerced his ISP with threats of shutting them down in order to suppress the video appears to support this conclusion: The video is genuine and the government is planning to create chaos on Y2K. Such an operation could establish the necessary pretext to activate Martial Law and end freedom, which is just what the suppressed video indicates. According to the Voice, "Both the U.S. Attorney's office and the FBI had no comment" on this case. Here's the Internet in action, the FBI may have removed the video from one site, but not from these sites, download it and make it known: http://www.rumormillnews.com/assault.htm http://moxy.wtower.com/mirrors/timesq.ram http://www.angelfire.com/ma/mauicool7/timesq.ram http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/11/24/013232mode=nested Here's the Village Voice article: == THE VILLAGE VOICE = http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/9947/boal.shtml == Published November 24 - 30, 1999 THE MONITOR BY MARK BOAL Subversive Filmmaker Attracts the Wrong Kind of Agent FBI's Shutter Speed Success seemed imminent. A local TV station was airing a segment about his Web site, and he began to savor those precious moments of microfame. No more dingy years of self-subsidized screenings; now there'd be an audience for his art. But then came the FBI. In a highly unusual move last week, FBI agents called mike zieper, an independent artist who goes by thename Mike Z., and "requested" that he remove his site from the Internet. When he declined, the FBI worked in tandem with the U.S. Attorney's office to persuade his Web host and its server to pull Zieper's site--18 days after it went up--without having a subpoena or court order of any kind. Mike Z.'s Web site showed an eerie but amateur video that purports to be a military briefing. The clip opens with fuzzy shots of Times Square, over which an unseen male voice describes a secret army plan to incite a race riot on New Year's Eve. "First Team," he says "you're all here by oh?four hundred," and he then instructs undercover black agents to "Give them a little of the Amadou shit, agitate it." The FBI was alerted to the site after receiving phone calls from people who thought its Blair Witch ?style footage was genuine army issue. The opening banner on the site read, "I don't know too much about this tape you are about to see. I got it from my cousin Steve who's in the army. . . . If it's fake, then there's nothing to worry about. If it's real, then we're in really big trouble." The FBI's call came when Mike Z. was at a friend's house last Thursday watching his UPN 9 interview. Suddenly, his pager hummed, and when he called the number back, it turned out to be the local New Jersey sheriff's department at his front door with two FBI agents in tow, wondering if they could come in for a chat. Then agents Dan Calemina and Joe Metzinger got on the phone and said, " 'We know that you have this Web site and that it has been getting a lot of activity,' " Z. recalls. " 'And we want to know how we can get people to stop seeing it.' The implication was obviously that I would face a subpoena or an arrest if I didn't [take it down]," Z. says. Instead, Z. contacted attorneys and put his computer in storage. But the agents made an end run around him. When Z. refused to pull his site, the FBI and the U.S. Attorney's office contacted Z.'s host, BECamation, the next day. And that was all it took. "I had no choice but to pull the site down completely or I would have lost my business," says Mark Wieger, BECamation's president, who feared that his own ISP would cut him off. Lisa Korologos, an assistant U.S. Attorney, requested that Wieger "remove the content so that it could not be distributed," Wieger says. (Both the U.S. Attorney's office and the FBI had no comment.) Wieger
Re: [CTRL] Y2K - engineered BANG or WHIMPER
-Caveat Lector- Ahem Andrew I think your anxiety threshold is getting too stretched. May I suggest you go to see Arnold Swarzeneggar in End of Days to build a bit of fear up. LOL...Heck I think its obligatory to at least have something hair-raising to worry about before Jan 1st or are all our Christmasses going to come at once? (martial law, stockmarket crash, famine, electronic mind control, holograms, reptoid invasions, concentration camps - wonder if those 200,000 guillotines delivered to Montana are going to be used too) haven't heard anything about those lately but maybe Watcher has the latest on them.Big site need to spend a bit of time but meanwhile - http://www.mt.net/~watcher/ (Pete you may like to pick this site clean of angel/human hybrid info too) The mating of human beings with angels resulted in hybrid creatures, evil spirits with human bodies. The human \ angel hybrids began to corrupt and destroy the human race, resulting in the Deluge, "the end of all flesh" except Noah and his family. The Bible uses other names to describe these degraded fallen angels and their descendents in addition to the word Nephilim, they are. . . . Rephaim - from the root rapha = spirits, shades Gen. 14:5 Anakim - race of giants Num. 13:33 descendents of Nephilim Emim - the proud deserters, terrors, race of giants Gen. 14:5 Zuzim- the evil ones, roaming things Gen. 14:5 Zamzummims - the evil plotters, Deut. 2:20 Zophim - watchers, angels who descended Num. 23, distinct from "holy watchers" aligned with God Sepherim - the many. . . . http://www.mt.net/~watcher/april30.html There is ample evidence that the government is involved with extraterrestrials. The involvement is global and the goings on don't merely "seem" evil, they are. Any secretive military undertaking, ( for example, "deadly force authorized" posted at Area 51), at taxpayer expense, especially during non-wartime, can be characterized as sinister. There are witnesses to confirm that Ufos are spotted near military installations all over the world, that there are military bases hidden underground all over the US, and that some people even hear a disturbing HUM in the southwestern US that can only be attributed to some massive underground project in the military bases of Nevada and New Mexico. What is your gut feeling about what the govt. is trying to hide, why the need for massive security when the Cold War is over? Conspiracy Links Behold a Pale Horse - Milton William Cooper - classic conspiracy, aliens, NWO William Cooper Harvest Trust Mind Control, NWO Conspiracy Resources: Cooper on Real Audio None Dare Call It Conspiracy - Gary J. Allen Big Brother IS Watching You! Media Filter a-Albionic Conspiracy Links (Masonic New World Order) Conspiracy Theory Land Unabomber was a Mind Control Victim Lobster: Journal of Conspiracy etc Conspiracy Nation What is the New World Order Liberty = Freedom = Sovereign Art Bell Radio Show Radio Liberty Mystery Babylon, Freemason Conspiracy Links New World Order Information for Informed Decisions New World Order HAARP Gonzo Conspiracy Links Secret History of the US None Dare Call It Conspiracy Conspiracy Links More New World Order Sharky's New World Order Conspiracy page The Eleventh Hour - Globalism Team Infinity Military Secrecy New World Army Black Ops Conspiracies Patriot Trading Group The Winds Conspiracy et. Articles Safe-Trek Outfitters of Bozeman MT Gun Control is Inevitable Outcome Based Education IaHUeH's Conspiracy Pages Alternative 3 Anomolous Images and Files Watcher's UFO and Alien Conspiracy Links -Original Message- From: Andrew Hennessey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, 27 November 1999 16:18 Subject: [CTRL] Y2K - engineered BANG or WHIMPER -Caveat Lector- Y2K = engineered BANG or WHIMPER We can feel the hype - guns, UN mobilisation, implants, detention camps, oil disasters - martial law - reptile invasions - more alleged comets to hype it all up - Great Pyramid baloney etc etc so we ask - how does our world end with the Y2K BANG . or is there a another explanation ?? I would like to look at the Y2K WHIMPER. DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
[CTRL] Guillotines in Montana etc
-Caveat Lector- The Guillotine article is right at the bottom of the page under the heading - USELESS EATERS http://www.mt.net/~watcher/new.html UFOs and the Bible - End Time Delusion Star Wars Depicts New Age Messiah - Thomas Horn Watcher's Page o' Illuminated Space Odyssey Links COOL!Dr. Stan Interviews Thomas Horn - Gods Who Walk Among Us WHY Disguise the Rebel Angels as ALIENS Aliens, Freemasons Hitler Aliens, Freemasons Aleister Crowley Crowley, Scientology Demonic Aliens Inhabiting the Air YOU Updated - More "Alien" Technology leads to Y2K Biometric IDs Watcher Homepage - UFOs, Aliens the Coming of Antichrist UFOs Nephilim of Genesis 6 Hawass, Aiwass, Great Pyramid Dec. 1999!! Giza Illuminati Millennium Rituals History of Masonic Templar Connection Masonic Illuminated stuff you MUST read: 2001 Space Odyssey, Ancient Monuments etc. Freemasons - From 700 Club to Art Bell - Conspiracy Thinking Wm Cooper Points out Art Bell's Masonic Associations 3/10 Sightings - Art Bell Withdrew Interview Invitation to David Icke due to Illuminati Material David Icke's "The Biggest Secret; The Book That Will Change the World" Watcher's New World Order Global Religion Govt of the Beast Page August 1999 Meeting of Global Elite! Bohemian Grove NWO Conspiracy Not so Mysterious Symbolism of Denver Airport Floors - but still... Update: Hoagland NASA Masonic Tetrahedral Conspiracy Decoded The Scarlet and The Beast Masonic Symbolism in the Assassination of John F. Kennedy William Cooper's * MAJESTYTWELVE * 666 the Seal of United States - America the Babylon? "Useless Eaters" Fringe Elements of Society Targets of New World Order Heaven's Gate UFO Cult Suicide. There's a rant that mentions Guillotines in Montana, which is particularly disturbing when combined with Phil Schnieder's NWO, Underground Bases and Shackles in Railroad Cars and Denver Airport Concentration Camp/New World Order, an interview with Alex Christopher from elsewhere on the web. Uh oh! Watcher's New World Order Conspiracy page DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om