Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
Pardon me for me inserting my two bits of opinion on an american election from a non-american stand point. I really don't think it matters who gets voted in. The end result will be the same although one president might make it more expedient than the other. The end result WILL BE the same. ...now to digress I realize that there are Christians, theists of various beliefs and atheists on this list. I mean to offend nobody. However, I simply cannot seem to escape the fact that so much of circumstance around us in the world today regarding a new world order (more aptly termed one world governance) seems to mirror biblical prophesy in the book of revelations. I keep reading posts to the effect of "fight and save America while we still can". Look people, that's NOT gonna happen. Not in your lifetime nor mine. I suppose one could even say it's preordained or prophesied. I am sorry to rain on your 4th of July parade, but there will be no saving of America no matter how many guns you have stashed. God's word will prevail. Mike Smith - Original Message - From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse From http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/articles/Diane_Alden.shtml }}Begin CommentMax Republicans Are Bad, but Democrats Are Worse Diane Alden August 4, 2000 The reason I will vote for Republicans this fall is because the alternative is not only worse, it is dangerous. Perhaps that is not a principled Stand, but it is the best I can do. Since the country cannot survive four years of Al Gore and the consequences he would bring down on American heads with his statist- collectivist agenda, there is not much choice. You can vote for Ralph Nader or Pat Buchanan or Harry Browne, but realistically none of them has a chance. If Al Gore were elected because of a split vote, the divisiveness of extreme leftist-collectivist Big Brotherism would kill America. This country is so polarized now that it will take a gifted leader or leaders to put it back together again. There is no doubt in my mind that if Gore gets in and the Democrats take over one or both houses of Congress, the Republic, what is left of it, will be finished. We are not talking partisan, Democrat versus Republican, here; we are talking about the fate of the Republic. Unfortunately, the fascist left now controls the once great and good Democratic Party. Oh, life will go on in the United States, but there will come a day when we will wake up and we will not have the country where liberty lives. The Bill of Rights for all intents and purposes will cease to exist. We will no longer be a Republic; we will be a mob-ocracy with benevolent dictators at the helm and an emasculated and frightened opposition incapable of preventing the worst abuses in the growing trend toward a corporate police state. If Bush is elected and the Republicans keep both houses of Congress, perhaps we will have breathing room to develop a long-term answer to the growth of the state and its abuse of power. His election will only give us breathing room - that is all it will do. What is worrisome is the talk from the Bush-Cheney camp that in a future Bush administration the Republicans will reach across the aisle to the Democrats. A bipartisan group hug will be in order to do the people's business. The people's business, however, requires only one thing - for government to get out of the way and to re-establish the Bill of Rights and the Constitution as the law of the land. The Republicans don't need to reach across the aisle. They have been there and done that and compromised every single principle they stood for. They fail to realize that the Democrats fight a war in which there is no compromise. The sole option they offer is total agreement to growing government and restraining or ending liberty. The only reaching across the aisle Republicans need to do is to yank the rug out from under the statist Democrats and their Republican fellow travelers. One must ask the question, what could possibly make any self-respecting, conservative Republican become so totally obsessed with power, image or the shallow approval of the media or the left that it sells its conservative soul. Politicians on the left do not care about conservative concerns, nor do they intend to compromise on any issue. They understand that it is an ideological war they are fighting, and its only conclusion is the obliteration and unconditional surrender of the other side. They are good at it. The last couple of years in Congress, Democrats - along with the Clinton administration - have shown they are good at winning political warfare. Their agenda, with few exceptions, has been passed and funded. Yet the Republicans still haven't figured out this is a war, and they scratch their heads hoping no one will notice and criticize them for not being quick enough with the
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
Mike, I happen to agree with you... THIS will be the first year in 30 years of voting eligibility that I won't even bother to go to the poll this year. Neither man running on the main tickets, or otherwise, are worthy of the office they seek... nor are they worthy of my vote. Election before last, I took the stand of ' the lesser of the three evils ' and the monkey wrench running, threw Clinton into office. (choke! gag!) Clinton's first bill signed as president was the long term partial abortion issue, on my birthday, no less... I was sickened by this, and this man and his wife, and his admin from the get-go. Many tears did not change the vote, nor did my vote in the next election matter, for the people are blinded to righteous government and choose rather to be ruled and represented to the world by a fool, fornicator, murderer and a liar... WYSIWYG. What you see is what you get. Therefore, WHY should I bother to go out to the polls this time... ??? This election has not grabbed much of my attention at all. I'm to the point, of "so what?" and "WHO?" Oh well As the subject matter says, it's only going to be from bad to worse, no matter who is elected this time. America is reaping what she's sown, and him/them who she's elected as king(s). Biblically speaking, we can see the end results of Ahab and Jezebel... History has a tendency to repeat itself. Ahab tried to change history. He put himself, as a hypocrit, and played the role of a priest, i.e. righteous man, in the midst of a battle, and was still recognized and assasinated with an arrow through his shoulder blades from the back, and was left to bleed all over his chariot. Jezebel, ahhh Jezebel, well, she earned the title of harlot, resurrected in Revelation chapter 2, but when she died, the people threw her body to the dogs of the streets, and her bones were scattered, never to be buried with honor. These people running for office, don't know when to quit, in honor. Righteousness and true justice in the presidency of this country, is a thing of the past for America. Sad to say. :-(( eagle 1 - Original Message - From: "Mike Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse Pardon me for me inserting my two bits of opinion on an american election from a non-american stand point. I really don't think it matters who gets voted in. The end result will be the same although one president might make it more expedient than the other. The end result WILL BE the same. ...now to digress I realize that there are Christians, theists of various beliefs and atheists on this list. I mean to offend nobody. However, I simply cannot seem to escape the fact that so much of circumstance around us in the world today regarding a new world order (more aptly termed one world governance) seems to mirror biblical prophesy in the book of revelations. I keep reading posts to the effect of "fight and save America while we still can". Look people, that's NOT gonna happen. Not in your lifetime nor mine. I suppose one could even say it's preordained or prophesied. I am sorry to rain on your 4th of July parade, but there will be no saving of America no matter how many guns you have stashed. God's word will prevail. Mike Smith - Original Message - From: "Alamaine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 2:35 PM Subject: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse From http://www.newsmax.com/commentmax/articles/Diane_Alden.shtml }}Begin CommentMax Republicans Are Bad, but Democrats Are Worse Diane Alden August 4, 2000 The reason I will vote for Republicans this fall is because the alternative is not only worse, it is dangerous. Perhaps that is not a principled Stand, but it is the best I can do. Since the country cannot survive four years of Al Gore and the consequences he would bring down on American heads with his statist- collectivist agenda, there is not much choice. You can vote for Ralph Nader or Pat Buchanan or Harry Browne, but realistically none of them has a chance. If Al Gore were elected because of a split vote, the divisiveness of extreme leftist-collectivist Big Brotherism would kill America. This country is so polarized now that it will take a gifted leader or leaders to put it back together again. There is no doubt in my mind that if Gore gets in and the Democrats take over one or both houses of Congress, the Republic, what is left of it, will be finished. We are not talking partisan, Democrat versus Republican, here; we are talking about the fate of the Republic. Unfortunately, the fascist left now controls the once great and good Democratic Party. Oh, life will go on in the United States, but there will come a day when we will wake up and we will not have the country where liberty lives. The Bill of Rights for all
[CTRL] Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: "Dave Kuehne" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Dave" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape Date: Friday, August 04, 2000 1:52 AM Quote from attached article: "Not a single U.S. Senator viewed the Ford Building evidence before voting to acquit Clinton on two articles of impeachment." Now what does that tell you? -DaveK- - begin attachment - From the Home of Rich Peggy Martin Grand Prairie, TX 75050 [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's nice to be important, but it's important to be nice. ___ INTRODUCTORY COMMENTARY This is hardly a foot note to Lisa Meyers presidential expose destroying the Clinton Legacy forever, but I thought I'd pass it along because it surely won't be reported by the mass media. Rich Martin Editor of Slick With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff Thursday, August 3, 2000; 9:35 AM EDT Shays Reveals Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape Arkansas nursing home operator Juanita Broaddrick told impeachment investigators she was raped not once but twice by Bill Clinton during a brutal attack in a Little Rock hotel room 22 years ago, Connecticut Congressman Christopher Shays revealed Wednesday. Shays was one of forty moderate congressional Republicans to visit the Ford Building evidence room during the House impeachment probe, where Broaddrick's accusation and documentation of other alleged Clinton crimes were made available for review. Five days after Clinton was impeached by the House, Shays told the New York Times that the evidence was, "very alarming and very unsettling," involving, "conduct by the president that is alleged to be pretty horrific." In his comments to the Times Shays made no mention of the second attack on Broaddrick. But when asked about the Ford Building evidence on Wednesday by WELI New Haven talk-radio host Tom Scott, Shays replied, "I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." When Scott asked Shays if he believes the president is a rapist, the congressman replied, "I would like not to say it that way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick." Shays comments to Scott were first reported by National Review Online late Wednesday. The reactions of other House members who viewed the evidence at the time suggested that Clinton's assault on Broaddrick was more disturbing than what has been reported in the press since. Just days after the impeachment vote Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon told the Arizona Republic that what he saw in the Ford Building left him "nauseated." Delaware Rep. Mike Castle was reduced to tears, according to CNBC's Chris Matthews. The shocking presidential rape evidence briefly moved Shays into the pro-impeachment column, he told the Times after the vote. But a personal meeting with Clinton, Shays said, changed his mind. Not a single U.S. Senator viewed the Ford Building evidence before voting to acquit Clinton on two articles of impeachment. In 1999, Georgia Congressman Bob Barr told NewsMax.com that the Ford Building materials would remain sealed unless the American people demanded their release. This is a closed list, however, you are encouraged to respond to any message at [EMAIL PROTECTED] To have your address removed, send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] No muss, no fuss. What could be easier? Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at:
[CTRL] Falling sea level upsets theory of global warming
Falling sea level upsets theory of global warming By Mark Chipperfield in Tuvalu and David Harrison in Londo THE 11,000 inhabitants of a tiny Pacific country that was predicted to vanish under water because of the effects of global warming have been given a reprieve because sea levels have begun to fall. In the early 1990s, scientists forecast that the coral atoll of nine islands - which is only 12ft above sea level at its highest point - would vanish within decades because the sea was rising by up to 1.5in a year. However, a new study has found that sea levels have since fallen by nearly 2.5in and experts at Tuvalu's Meteorological Service in Funafuti, the islands' administrative centre, said this meant they would survive for another 100 years. They said similar sea level falls had been recorded in Nauru and the Solomon Islands, which were also considered to be under threat. The release of the data from Tuvalu, formerly part of the Gilbert and Ellice Islands, will renew scientific debate about climate change and its impact on ocean levels. The island's scientists admitted they were surprised and "a little embarrassed" by the change, which they blame on unusual weather conditions caused by El Niño in 1997. Hilia Vavae, the Metereological Service's director, said: "This is certainly a bit of a shock for us because we have been experiencing the effect of rising oceans for a long time." Although their country has been saved from imminent engulfment, not all islanders are happy about the change in Tuvalu's fortunes. Residents who once worried about their homes being flooded are now complaining that the lower tides are disrupting their fishing expeditions, making it difficult to moor their boats and navigate low-lying reefs. However, scientists both on and off the island believe such concerns will be short term because the sea level falls are coming to an end and the oceans will soon resume their inexorable rise. The Tuvalu government, a vocal critic of the industrialised world at environmental conferences in Tokyo and Rio de Janeiro, has said that the result of its research is a "blip" and it is expected to make climate change a major issue when it joins the United Nations next month. Low-lying coral islands such as Tuvalu and the Maldives are among the countries most vulnerable to rising sea levels. Most of the world's leading scientists agree that the earth is warming up, caused by carbon dioxide emissions from petrol and the burning of coal. Last month a study by Nasa, the US space agency, found that sea levels were being pushed up by the addition of 50 billion tons of water a year from Greenland's melting ice sheet. Professor Patrick Nunn, head of geography at the University of the South Pacific in Fiji and an expert on island formation, said last week that the figures from Tuvalu, Papua New Guinea and the Solomons were based on inadequate research. He said: "It is a nonsense to try to make predictions about climate change from a data base of only seven years. You need data over a minimum period of at least 30 years. A lot of these sea gauges have been slowly falling over the last five years but that is a short-term trend. Island countries such as Kiribati and Tuvalu remain incredibly vulnerable to sea change. These low-lying islands are between 2,000 and 3,000 years old. They only formed because sea levels fell, allowing a build up of sand and gravel. Now it could go the other way." Ms Vavae is also pessimistic about the future of her country, which last year signed a £34 million deal to license its domain name - tv.com - to an American internet company. She said: "There is no doubt about the impact of climate change on Tuvalu. We already have difficulty planting traditional crops. We've seen more frequent tropical cyclones, more severe droughts and alarming sea level heights during spring tides. "We are still facing the daunting prospect of being one of the first countries to be submerged by sea-level rises related to climate change." 16 May 2000: [UK News] £1.2bn bill for global warming 19 February 2000: [International] Global warming 'has helped spread disease' 8 October 1999: [International] Warming 'has no effect on rising seas' 16 September 1999: [International] UN watchdog warns of water wars 18 June 1999: [UK News] Warming of Britain 'will spread diseases' 16 October 1998: [International] Scientists fear higher increase in sea levels 25 October 1996: Global warming will have 'less effect' in Britain Nice cabbie mafia fights fares exposé A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and
[CTRL] conpiracies of the illuminati
More on the conspiracies of the Illuminati http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/masons/illuminati.html Secret Societies http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/msocieties.html . Visit the Eagle 1 Observer"Observing the World Around You"http://www.crayon.net/read.cgi?[EMAIL PROTECTED] " I believe that every individual is naturally entitled to do ashe pleases with himself and the fruits of his labor, so far asit in no way interferes with any other men's rights." - Abraham Lincoln .
Re: [CTRL] [2]Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: from Uri Dowbenko's new article on Tyree
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Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
Mike Smith: The Master Plan IS the bible and it is right now being used by the wrong people. I bungled onto this in 1968 - a bible communicaton/code keyed date wise to specific murders and acts of sabotage - two forces use this book, some call this evil force a satanic force. A force of good and a force of evil - and it is always the evil ones who win unless you fight fire with fire. But remember the line "I am the Alpha and Omega.the Bright and Morning Star".and consider Lucipher was kicked out of heaven, or was it the Garden of Eden.it was Christ nailed to the cross, not Lucipher. Too late Christ said sell your coat and getta gun.so you see this is why it is important America be disarmed - look to Australia and see how Unions turned on their members and how this one guy formed first CFR Unit in Israel This is not King Arthur's Camelot - a dream of JFKthis is Walter Lippman, Walter Cronkite, mass media disinformation specialists.all owned and operated like puppets. Tower of Babel..controlled - everything organized and controlled - the voice of silence, or voice of the turtle now is heard in the land? So Clinton says :let them get the first shot - he awaited that first shot and it never happened did it.oh we had Klebold and Harris, two brainwashed kids programmed to kill for you see they go after the kids now - new wine cannot be put into old bottlesthey would kill them with homosexual love - AIDS for all..most important since 1950 the Pentagon then led by Eisenhower (note how quickly Patton was killed) who made it his job to put Pentagon into "absorbing black race".then Korea put hold on this, and I know this to be true - in absorbing black race, you destroy the white rice and we have peace in our time.no blue eyed devils? I prefer my bue eyed devils - to each his own - but it is still 6 billion to Gideon's 300 or it is 400 now? Secrets of the Bible? It is all there for you as Reagan would say, there they go again..They are here - Queen Victoria once had an empire, but when her King Albert died, she was demoralized and then Jack the Ripper, todaywe would call him KGB, finished the job and Lenin was off with his Master Plan Keyed to the Stars and Testamentshe chose the Red Star and it shines brighter and brighter through the montsh of September, October, and November to the 22 - then our King died. Masonic revenge? Because DeMolay was burnt at stake? No, Hitler kicked masons out of German and rounded them all up and then he got the Rosicrucians of the day saying they were all English Secret Service. Good spies know all the secrets of all secret societies and you find them too, in the Bible. This is not New World Order - its the same old crap..World Dictatorshp only now not by divine right, but by busines end of gun - but this gun - well James Bond had one that when fired, shot backfired? You are right Mike..the bible knows all and tells all if you read between the lines and update he scenes of the crime.. Henry Kissinger, one if not the most hated man in the worldthis ugly man survived.did you see him at Republican Convention - the evil like picture of Dorian Grey is not hiddenthe man who would corner the market on foodwhile people starve and children are slaughtered - he sits at a table and his cup runneth over.and he would deny the children the crumbs at his feet. Evil is as evil doesbut wait, the day comes when the true Bright and Morningstar will take his rightful place in spirit - and then you will know what is the meaning over the hallowed halls of the CIA "You Shall Know the Truth and the Truth Shall Set You Free"" Let them blot those words out of the book as they have blotted people into book of dead. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL
[CTRL] Week Ending: 5 August 2000/4 Av 5760
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Tzemach News Service - http://www.tzemach.org/fyi Tzemach News Service ~ A weekly update of news and events regarding the nation and the people of Israel Week Ending: 5 August 2000/4 Av 5760 Please feel free to forward to a friend or colleague "My soul longed and even yearned for the courts of the L-rd; my heart and my flesh sing for joy to the living G-d." (Psalm 84.2) HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS WEEK: GOVERNMENT CRUMBLING BEFORE BARAK'S EYES KATSAV ELECTED NEW ISRAELI PRESIDENT CLINTON'S TRICKS BACKFIRE THE MOSLEM CLAIM TO JERUSALEM IS FALSE (A MUST READ!) LEBANESE ARMY TO TAKE OVER IN SOUTH SECRET MEETING ON 'REFUGEES' REVEALED PREPARATIONS FOR WAR CONTINUE EASTERN JERUSALEM ARABS WANT TO STAY UNDER ISRAELI AUTHORITYRABBIS TO CONSIDER SYNAGOGUE ON TEMPLE MOUNT EITAN HABER EMPLOYED BY LOCKHEED MARTIN - WROTE COLUMN URGING ISRAEL TO DROP PHALCON TISHA B'AV (Thurs. 08-10-00) THIS WEEK IN JEWISH HISTORY ** NOTICE ** REDEMPTION IN THE END-TIMES PROPHECY CONFERENCE GOVERNMENT CRUMBLING BEFORE BARAK'S EYES: Several more blows were dealt to the sickly Barak coalition this past week. Barak narrowly survived a no-confidence motion Monday. The vote came on the last day of the Knesset's summer session. The vote was 50 for and 50 against, with 8 abstentions and 12 absences. A majority of 61 votes are needed to pass. Foreign Minister David Levy resigned Wednesday. Earlier Monday, Barak's candidate for president, former Prime Minister Shimon Peres, lost in a stunning parliamentary vote upset to a little-known opposition lawmaker. The victory of Iranian-born Moshe Katsav of the opposition Likud Party spelled a humiliating blow to Barak. At Sunday's weekly cabinet meeting, Barak announced that after the collapse of the Camp David talks, his government would now concentrate on educational, health and welfare issues. The Likud scoffed at the new government agenda, saying: "More than one year after he was elected, Prime Minister Barak has just remembered that the State of Israel has social problems, which Barak completely ignored despite the fact that he was elected to solve them." KATSAV ELECTED NEW ISRAELI PRESIDENT: Mild-mannered Persian Jewish immigrant Moshe Katsav was sworn in Tuesday evening as Israel's eight President and pledged to avoid getting involved in political infighting during his seven-year term. Born in Iran, Katsav, 55, immigrated in 1951 and started out in a tent camp before taking up residence in Kiryat Malachi, a development town in the south, where he became the youngest Israeli mayor ever at age 24. Katsav, who has a bachelor's degree from Hebrew University, was first elected to the Knesset in 1977. He has served as labor, transportation, and tourism minister, and was a deputy prime minister under Binyamin Netanyahu's government from 1996-1999. He is respected by Israel's large Sephardic community as an observant Jew, and has developed ties to the Israeli Arab community as well. For the first time, a member of a party other than Labor has won the Presidency. For the first time, a man of sfardi origin has won the Presidency. For the first time a religious Jew has won the Presidency. Shimon Peres lost the election. Peres is, in the words of one Israeli columnist, "the greatest Prime Minister never elected." Indeed, Peres never won a vote in his life. So, perhaps it is fitting that Peres, who has been implicated in every major Israeli scandal over the past 20 years, from Irangate, to Pollard, to the Rabin assassination, should lose yet again. One more loss to end his illustrious career. ARUTZ-7 correspondent Yedidya Atlas reports, based on sources close to both the Clinton Administration and to Hilary Clinton's Senatorial campaign in New York State, that the Clintons were "shocked and dismayed" by the news of Peres' loss. Both Mr. and Mrs. Clinton had been relying on a President Peres to promote their respective agendas, say the sources, including the American plan for the division of Jerusalem and improving Hilary's lagging support among Jewish New York voters. CLINTON'S TRICKS BACKFIRE: In attempting to 'appease' Israel, US President Clinton recently stated that he wanted to move the US Embassy to Jerusalem [see TNS, 29 July 2000/26 Tammuz 5760]. However, this past week, his statements had serious repercussions around the globe. The head of the Arab League called Clinton's remarks "strange." The editors of the CHICAGO TRIBUNE referred to the President's suggestion as "reckless" (CHICAGO TRIBUNE, 1 August 2000). On Monday Egypt indicated that moving the embassy would have "negative effects" on the peace process. Lebanon's Iranian-backed Hizb'Allah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah threatened Sunday to destroy the US embassy in Israel and kill its diplomats if the mission was moved to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv. It was only last June (2000) that Clinton, for the third time, ordered a
[CTRL] A FREE PRESS COSTS REPUBLICANS
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! A FREE PRESS COSTS REPUBLICANS "Balance," to the national media, is three sniveling liberals shouting down a conservative. But, finally, the people are catching on and starting to protest. Somewhat of a protest started last weekend. One closet-conservative producer admitted privately that he received over one-hundred complaints about how the people on his program handled the subject of Dick Cheney and G.W. Bush last weekend. Vice President apparent Dick Cheney managed to get himself on most of the shout shows last Sunday and there was an interesting change of attitudes: Generally speaking, Cheney's adult-style executive approach had a calming effect on the hair-spray set and he tended to make these "journalists" come off like somewhat polite people. Even Sam Donaldson had to retract a couple of his (normally) stupid questions and sounded like he was actually ready to formally apologize for his silliness a couple times. Clearly, Cheney had an effect on the talking heads neither Clinton or Gore could never pull off. Cheney deserved, and received, respect. In fairness, all the media people were allowed to talk about with Cheney were the talking points given them by the White House war room. Therefore, all lost a grand opportunity for a meaningful interview. It seems that, while a Congressman, Cheney voted to allow "plastic" guns into the country. I remember that vote quite well because, at that time, I was already practicing with my "plastic" Glock pistol and found it good. And, as a matter of fact, I still own that very same handgun. But, still today, the professional media whiners do not seem to know that the original debate was about what is now one of the most popular handguns for police work in the country. Instead of doing their homework before babbling on, they all ran with the White House provided talking points. It's the same with the "cop killer" bullets. That was a scam, too. And, besides, no one would buy those things anymore, anyway. There is much better ammunition available in any gun store at a much lower price. Bringing up Cheney's Nelson Mandela vote was just as much of a sham. Mandela was the leader of a communist-terrorist group that was trying to overthrow the government of South Africa. While he was in jail, his wife took over the group. And we know they were terrorists. Anyone remember necklacing? On the distaff side was Dr. Lynne Cheney, interviewed by Washington brat Cokie Roberts. Well, let's face it, folks . . . Cokie Roberts is not one of the brightest lights in town and Dr. Cheney is. So, Cokie got her comeuppance more than just once. Cokie somehow forgot her far-left roots and started in on the Cheney family -- namely the sexual orientation of one of their daughters. It's interesting how that works: Normal folks are not supposed to bring that stuff up anymore -- not even in private conversation -- but the liberals can. And on national television, no less! Yet, will Cokie dare report the fact that a Gore kid was booted out of a private school for possessing and using illegal drugs on campus? Fat chance! Nor would she ask the burning question: What was the Secret Service doing while this kid was getting high right in front of them? Suffice to say, give us a chance to interview Dick and Lynne Cheney and we would have had a whole list of pertinent questions to ask. Our questions, however, would have concerned the direction the ship of state is to be steered over these next four years. What most people want to know concerns their own personal freedom, taxes, how best to trim back government interference in our lives, etc. There is not one of us out here who can benefit one iota from knowing the personal proclivities of the Cheneys' daughters. And, to be truthful about it, it's none of our damn business anyway. Lowering taxes and getting rid of some of those obnoxious regulators would win our approval every time, though. That's what needs discussion. (But, perhaps that is exactly why I am not a journalist.) The CNN journalist's forum also had major egg on their collective faces last weekend. Howard Kurtz was moderating a talk on "Reliable Sources" about how the Washington press corps milk insignificant "news" into a story when CNN broke in for what was called an "urgent" event: John McCain's campaign bus arrived at his hotel in Philadelphia. "Another historic moment in Philadelphia," Kurtz said. Sure. Like anyone except McCain's core of supporters in the media cares. And, even McCain's media support is a scam on the Republican Party. What is not said -- ever -- is that the far-left national media support John McCain because, were he elected president or chosen vice-president, it would positively ruin the Republican Party for many years to come. The far-left, of course wants that. So, they play their games.
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The Master Plan IS the bible Jews say it is the Torah. Muslims say it is the Koran. Hindus say it is the Bahgavagita. Buddhists say it is the Pali Sutras. Biologists say it is Origin of Species. Communists say it is Das Kapital. They can't all be right. Why should I believe any of them? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] CONGRESS ACTION: August 6, 2000
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! CONGRESS ACTION: August 6, 2000 = GUN BANNERS POUND ON THE TABLE: There is a joke among lawyers: "When the facts are against you, argue the law; when the law is against you, argue the facts; when both the facts and the law are against you, pound on the table." Which is why we see quite a bit of table-pounding from the gun control crowd. They hope that if they are shrill enough, shamelessly exploiting occasional tragedy to whip up hysteria, they will be able to hide the reality that the facts, the Constitution, and logic, are against them. And their shrill table-pounding is accompanied by a liberal dose of statistical slight-of-hand and disinformation. Gun banners love to selectively compare the United States with foreign nations, hoping for the day when the U.S. will follow the lead of countries like Great Britain, Australia, and Canada in virtually outlawing privately owned firearms. They conveniently ignore countries like Switzerland, where shooting clubs proliferate, assault weapons are kept in virtually every home, and yet where gun-crimes are extremely rare. The latest comparison touted by the gun ban crowd is with Australia. Following a particularly egregious shooting in 1996, Australia enacted draconian gun ban laws, and according to Handgun Control, the restrictions have been a total success in reducing crime. The HCI line: ". if you're an American who has seen the infamous NRA infomercial, you may think that Australia also has a surging crime rate. About 660,000 firearms were handed in to the government in return for more than 400 million Australian dollars, financed by a one-time add-on to the income tax. And in 1998, the rate at which firearms were used in murder, attempted murder, assault, sexual assault and armed robbery went down. In that year, the last for which statistics are available, the number of murders involving a firearm declined to its lowest point in four years." The facts: Note the clever qualifications. According to an analysis by the Australian Institute of Criminology, the rate in which guns were used in various violent crimes has been declining steadily since 1991, 5 years before the new gun bans were enacted, from 634 per 100,000 in 1991 to 480 per 100,000 in 1995. The decline touted by HCI had nothing to do with gun bans, but was merely the continuation of an ongoing trend. In addition, the implication of HCI's statement is that the overall rate of violent crime has declined. In fact, all they are really discussing are "the number of murders involving a firearm". The HCI website goes on to advise, "The next time a credulous friend or acquaintance tells you that Australia actually suffered more crime when they got tougher on guns...offer him a Foster's, and tell him the facts." Right. Here are the facts, from the Australian Bureau of Statistics: "While the use of firearms decreased or remained steady for most offences in 1998, the use of other weapons in the commission of offences increased for all offences.with the exception of murder." Those other offenses included assault, sexual assault, kidnapping, and armed robbery, in which gun use has declined while the use of other weapons has increased. The Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (CPHV) touts a "Firearms Facts" page containing the following: "In 1997, there were only 190 justifiable handgun homicides by private citizens in the United States." Which only proves, if it proves anything, that private handgun owners are extraordinarily cautious about discharging a weapon to deter a crime. The vast majority of crimes deterred by private people with guns do not involve shooting, let alone killing, the would-be criminal perpetrator. Also excluded from CPHV's carefully limited (handguns only) statistic are the times shotguns or long guns were used to deter crime. Left unstated is the real story, from a 1994 report by the Clinton-Reno "Justice" Department: "On average in 1987-92 about 83,000 crime victims per year used a firearm to defend themselves or their property." And a 1997 study from the National Institute of Justice of the U.S. Justice Department concluded, "On the basis of data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics' National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS) data, one would conclude that defensive uses are rare indeed, about 108,000 per year." The NIJ may deem 108,000 crimes deterred every year "rare", but that's quite a bit more than the CPHV's "190 justifiable handgun homicides". More from the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence "Firearms Facts" page: "In 1994, the firearm injury death rate among males 15-24 years of age was 32% higher than the motor vehicle traffic injury death rate." Why the CPHV decided to limit their statistics to males (don't females count?) is unclear, but this so-called fact is more of the same sort of slippery selectivity. According to the Centers for Disease Control, deaths associated with
[CTRL] Canada could be the Saudi Arabia of 2025
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Canada could be the Saudi Arabia of 2025 due to our wealth of water in a thirsty world ALANNA MITCHELL The Globe and Mail Saturday, August 5, 2000 Toronto -- A three part series on the poisoning and waste threatening water, the life blood of the earth Scientists predict Canada could be a water superpower within 25 years when it becomes one of the few countries in the world with enough fresh water. Evidence collected at leading international research institutes shows that the world's store of fresh water could run dry faster than expected. Because of that, and because Canada is home to roughly 40 per cent of the Earth's store of fresh water, experts say that Canada could become the Saudi Arabia of water. "Water could become an export commodity like oil," said Kevin Hall, the scientific director of the Centre for Water and the Environment at Queen's University in Kingston, Ont. "There's no doubt people are going to be short of water and they're going to be looking at us," he added. John Briscoe, senior water adviser at the World Bank, is blunt when he describes the looming water shortage: Unless people learn to use water more efficiently, there won't be enough fresh water to sustain the Earth's population. "If nothing happens, the situation is really quite terrifying," he said in an interview from Washington. "Without innovation, you're dead." But Mr. Briscoe also believes that solutions exist, if society takes the problem seriously. The coming water crisis is partly driven by population growth. But even more, it stems from a spirited overuse of the Earth's fresh water for agriculture, industry and all sorts of uses that turn good water bad. It is not even about having safe water to drink, but about having enough to go around. Numbers abound about how dire the shortage will be. The Sri Lanka- based International Water Management Institute projected earlier this year that by 2025, only about a quarter of the world's population, including Canada, with its rivers, lakes and aquifers, will have enough fresh water. Roughly a third of the world's population will have too little water to meet their needs. That includes people in Pakistan, Syria, Egypt, Israel, South Africa and half of India and China. This figure even takes into account that these countries will learn to use water more efficiently over time. As well, about 40 per cent of the world's people will experience serious financial and development problems in their quest to find the increased amounts of water required. Among those countries are Brazil, Mexico, Australia, Nigeria and Turkey, as well as large parts of India and China. In fact, even those frightening projections may underestimate the problem, said Jim Bruce, the vice-chairman of the Winnipeg-based International Institute for Sustainable Development and a world expert on water. Most scenarios don't take into account the effects of global warming on the amount of fresh water the Earth holds, he said. When that's taken into account, even such water-rich countries as the United States and Canada may be in for some trouble. "I think we're going to have to do some fast footwork on the prairies if the models are correct," Mr. Bruce said. From the point of view of the World Bank's Dr. Briscoe, a big part of the solution is to make the cost of water reflect its value. Now, people use it virtually for free. "It's really not managed in any vaguely scientific way because it's so cheap," he said. "People just pour it on." He added that water is also bound to become more expensive. "Once you get market forces operating, efficiency will come," Dr. Briscoe said. Canadians, for example, are among the most nonchalant users of water in the world. The average Canadian household uses about 500,000 litres a year, but almost half is wasted in washing cars or leaving taps to drip, Dr. Hall said. The average daily domestic use in Canada is 326 litres per person. In France, by contrast, it's less than half of that at 150 litres. Mr. Bruce, the Canadian water expert, noted that most parts of Canada don't even put meters on domestic water use. "There are all sorts of signals in the marketplace that water is not important," he said. "So we use it very profligately." Governments are just as unthinking about fresh-water supplies. The report last week from Ontario's Environmental Commissioner on the state of Ontario's groundwater was damning. Canada's most populous province has no strategy to protect groundwater, no publicly accessible inventory of it and no long-term method of determining the effects of groundwater use on the health of the ecosystem. The experts agree that these attitudes toward water must change. In fact, they can already see signs that people are recognizing the value of water. Consider, for a moment, that a 500-millilitre bottle of spring water sells at a corner store these days for about three
[CTRL] Gun Report From Capitol Hill
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Gun Report From Capitol Hill Gun Owners of America E-Mail/FAX Alert 8001 Forbes Place, Suite 102, Springfield, VA 22151 Phone: 703-321-8585 / FAX: 703-321-8408 http://www.gunowners.org "Gun Owners of America is the pit bull of the Second Amendment. They are relentless and never give any ground whatsoever to the gun grabbers." --Rep. John Hostettler (R-IN), July 2000 (Friday, August 4, 2000) -- This has been a hard-fought year. You have helped us to fight (and win) several battles. And quite frankly, gun owners have done as well as anyone could expect considering the obstacles we have faced in the White House. Below, you will find a list of victories that you have helped to bring about. But first, a quick wrap-up of the final days before Congress recessed last week. Pro-gun Language Dies In Conference Rep. Virgil Goode (I-VA) succeeded in getting a pro-gun amendment stuck into the House version of the Treasury-Postal funding bill. The Goode provision would keep the Treasury Department from giving any preference towards Smith Wesson when the agency buys service revolvers for its agents. On the Senate side, Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) stuck a similar amendment into the bill. But what should have then been a pro-gun coup resulted in disaster when the pro-gun language was stripped out of the bill in a conference committee -- apparently because moderate Republicans did not want to give President Clinton a reason for vetoing an appropriations bill. Anti-gun Amendments Expected Next Month Gun owners will be faced with renewed attacks upon the 2nd Amendment when the Senate returns for action in September. The Democrats have made it clear that they plan to use delaying tactics to slow down the appropriation bills, unless they are allowed to offer anti-gun amendments to those bills. This is, of course, how some of the worst anti-gun legislation was enacted in the recent past. You will remember that the Lautenberg gun ban (disarming millions for misdemeanor infractions) and the Kohl gun free school zone ban were both added onto appropriation bills in September 1996. On a positive note, Sen. Bob Smith (R-NH) could offer pro-gun amendments to the upcoming spending bills. As the Commerce-Justice-State bill did not come up before the recess, his amendment to alter current law to require the "immediate destruction" of gun buyers' records will have to wait until September. ACTION: Continue to register your support for the Smith amendment. Call 202-224-3121 or toll-free at 1-888-449-3511. A pre-written letter is included at http://www.gunowners.org/activism.htm -- simply plug in your zipcode and select your Senators as recipients. Finally, for some encouragement, here are some of the victories that we have accomplished together this year. Highlights From The First Half Of 2000 Feb 02 Gun activists quickly respond to GOA's call to action from the night before. The issue concerns an anti-gun amendment offered by Senators Levin (D-MI) and Schumer (D-NY) that would help the cities bringing suit against gun makers. The Levin amendment prevents gun makers from declaring legitimate bankruptcy, and thus, discharging any enormous judgments that result from frivolous lawsuits. The amendment failed 68-29. Mar 01 Sen. Boxer (D-CA) attacks GOA for refusing to compromise and for opposing firearms restrictions. Boxer's amendment instructing House-Senate conferees to finish its work on the anti-gun juvenile bill fails on a tie vote. Mar 03 GOA responds to Sen. Hatch (R-UT) who has publicly stated he will support a juvenile crime bill containing certain gun control provisions. GOA begins an intense grassroots campaign to help the Senator "see the light." Mar 07 President Clinton laments the fact that Sen. Hatch has now changed his tune. Now that progress on the juvenile crime bill is moving slow, the President notes that "there's so much pressure on Senator Hatch not to call a [conference] meeting." Mar 15 Gun control proponents sink to a new low, as gun activists help generate more than 20 new pro-gun votes in the House of Representatives. Last September, Rep. Lofgren (D-CA) had offered a motion to instruct the crime bill conferees to move the bill out of committee. That anti-gun motion had passed with 241 votes. But after months and months of grassroots pressure, Lofgren could only muster 218 votes (a 51% majority) on March 15, 2000. While gunnies still lost this vote, the narrow margin indicated there was no mandate for sending the President an anti-gun crime bill. May 17 Gun control sinks to a new low in the U.S. Senate. Having passed the juvenile crime bill one year earlier with 73
Re: [CTRL] [2]Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: from Uri Dowbenko's new article on Tyree
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Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
You do not have to believe any of them; when I spoke of this Master Plan, the cospirators have nothing to do with religion - they use it. I believe in all relgion and no religon - it is as simple as that - but as they say, a Mason can always tell when one of its own, is out of line - how? Those who cry peace, peace and prepare for war? To prepare for national defense is one thing, but to stockpile tons of biological warfare germs, and work like hell to find different ways to wipe out a generation of kids, is another. Census takers so hated - but record of first census, is in bible? And when you have a census you you have a choice - death by wars or by plagues? Poisoned water, poisoned food, poisoned blood and promoting of homosexual lifestyle is just another form of mass genocide - refer to South Africa. You do not have to believe anybody or anythingbut if you want the truth, start knocking the booksif you had my bible calendar/code, certain dates for specific murders and acts of sabotage - might be a little easier to see the truth. So do you hve imagination - can you read not between lines, but like a Shakespearian play, a Midsummers NIght Dream - names are changed, but same old scenario. For instance for clue to little Princess of Wales Death read Acts 16 and Acts 19 and keep in mind the color Purple, is symbol of royalty.and JFK and RFK and little Princesss had soothsayers with big feet in door - marking for death over and over - warnings of death, and these soothsayers had been given certain information and were nothing but spies in disguise? Snoops, nothing dvine about them - in fact, read Acts 19 to see sabotage of Apollo.see burning of bookssee special inquiries over the matter..see how Diana whom some worshipped was to be despisedand remember the tabloids controlled by CIA and MI6 said the Queen "despised" Diana which was not true. For the conspirators lay foundations of lies; this Round Table did not consist of Knights in Shiniing Armour, but conisted of murderers, judging who will live and who will die - like a High Tribunal, they think they do not murder - they execute and use bible as their authority. See Apollo the craft that came to naught and think of Shadrach, Meschenk and Abenego tossed into the firey furnacewonder why Jack Ruby (Rubenstein, jewish mafia) wonder why while in prison, over and over he said "Shadrach, Mechenk, and Abenego: and consider this man was on drug Preludin prior to assassintions and had a little dog, named Sheba(Seba or Saba - spies all?) So the conspirators use the bible calendar/code, for it is the Communist Time Table, all mapped out.Twenty-Two, Skidoo? For twenty-two is a magical number is it not, for in November the summer ends, and the King Mut Die and Sagitarius takes deadly aim, and the sun god lies at his feet - covered with red roses. Oh you are look at conpirators with all the knowledge of ancient gods and stories of fallen heros..Ezekial 38 and 39 is the symbolisms of the President of the United States.some see the Valley of Hamon-Gog, but I saw Arlington Cemetary.read the 109th psalm and 110 psalm, then consider ancient biblical rituals, psalms of degrees, and you find a secret society within a society, theTarot Card Assassons, the slaughter of the innocents from Waco to Ruby Ridge to Littleton and other schools along major drug route..and Klebold ad Harris were victims too - for in fact you find mentors and controls, and programmed killers. Lips of those who are asleep made to speak, to walk, and to murder - a look and a word, can killprogrammd through vicious movies someimes timed prior to scenes of actual crimes. Cry Havoc, Turn Loose the Dogs of War, and out of Chaos, New World Order.dictatorship, and we see Clinton with big guns, but they are all about to be turned upon him, as people see the truth. Hebrews - Clintons "new covenant".remember the democrat convention he and Gore pledged New Covenant.Hebrews 8,Kennedy had ot ie for it.and always remember Hebrews for the big secret in this on line and any true blue mason knows the secret meanings: Where there is a testament there must by necesity be the death of the Testator. So, the King Must Die..and did at the hands of the NWO on November 22, 1963. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to
[CTRL] Christian Conservatives Suffering Abused Spouse Syndrome
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Christian Conservatives Suffering Abused Spouse Syndrome By Chuck Baldwin August 4, 2000 Two recent reports from the Republican National Convention in Philadelphia really caught my eye. A Chicago Tribune story begins, "Social conservatives, banned from the spotlight of the Republican National Convention, gathered to pay tribute to their own Wednesday at a public hall miles away from the arena where the party is showcasing its more mainstream speakers." Next, a Scripps-McClatchy Western Service report begins, "Christian conservatives tuning into the Republican National Convention this week â even gavel-to-gavel coverage on cable â have heard next to nothing from the podium speakers about the core issues that have galvanized them into a political force over the past two decades." For a man who is noted to wear his religion on his sleeves, King George has certainly given his fellow believers the royal snub. Pro-abortion Colin Powell is preferred over Americaâs most articulate pro-life statesman, Alan Keyes. At the same time, in order to demonstrate to the world that Dubya is "tolerant" and "compassionate," Rep. Jim Kolbe, an out-of-the-closet homosexual, was invited to address convention delegates. Nowhere to be seen is Gary Bauer or even Steve Forbes. Itâs like social conservatives have a communicable disease and have all been quarantined. In spite of this rudeness, Christian conservatives continue to sing the praises of the Republican Party. This situation reminds me of the poor wife who continues to stand by her abusive husband. When confronted with the ill treatment being inflicted upon her, she responds, "Where can I go?" She is more afraid of being alone than she is of being with a tyrant-husband. It was an unholy marriage to begin with, this marriage between Christian conservatives and the Republican Party. We couldnât see the dangers of it back in 1980 because the groom was an articulate, principled conservative who openly embraced the fundamental tenets and ideals of conservatism. Not only did he give conservatives a place at the table, but also he put us at the head of the table. We were instantly spoiled! It is that hallowed position that Christian conservatives are salivating over. They have been put out of the palace, and they desperately want back in! Itâs hard to enjoy bread and water after having tasted steak and shrimp. There is one little problem: G. W. Bush is no Ronald Reagan! As this convention demonstrates, Christian conservatives will only be given the crumbs from this "new kind of Republican." And just like that abused wife, when confronted with this reality, they reply, "Where can we go?" Where we can go is to the same place our Founding Fathers went: straight into the arms of the all-powerful God! Conservative Christians are looking in the wrong place for deliverance. We should do what American patriots have always done: take our stand for principle and truth and let the chips fall where they may! If every Christian in this country would do what his conscience tells him to do and would stop worrying about what the political pundits say, we might find that God is willing to do for us what he did for our fathers. However, since it doesnât appear that this will soon take place, Christian conservatives should expect to eat more leeks and garlic, a Bush administration notwithstanding. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! ** *** A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Today, candor compels us to admit that our vaunted two-party system is a snare and a delusion, a fraud upon the nation. Our two parties have become nothing but two wings of the same bird of prey... Patrick Buchanan A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to
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Title: INDEX / HOME PAGE Eustace Mullins reviews RULERS OF EVIL welcomes you to If you want to know more about RULERS OF EVIL, F. Tupper Saussy's important new book about Laurence Richey (Americas secret founding father), about the religious forces that created and continue to operate the United States, about the Mark of Cain, Freemasonry, Rome, Protestantism, how the Vatican makes war and always wins, Jesuits, the Black Papacy, Sun-Tzu, missionary adaptation, casuistry, mental reservation, the Spiritual Exercises, cabalah, how the U.S. Capitol Building celebrates the Immaculate Conception, the infallibility of the Hebrew Bible the New Testament as history and moral guide, and how to peacefully disentangle yourself from dangerous, oppressive, and immoral political alliances CLICK HERE If youve already read RULERS OF EVIL and just want to view or discuss events in its light CLICK HERE www.TupperSaussy.com 2000 by Pastoral Business, P.O. Box 3252, Santa Monica, CA 90408 USARULERS OF EVIL represented internationally by The Peter Fleming Agency, Pacific Palisades, CA, USA
[CTRL] Fwd: Tthe Herbert S. Winokur Public Policy Fund at Harvard University; The CIA Connection.....
To remind...Hitz got a chair at Princeton funded by Goldman Sachs.Deutch got a check from Pug through Harvardshould we presume that Hitz and Deutch are on different teams? -Original Message- From: Catherine Austin Fitts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 1:51 PM To: Catherine Austin Fitts; Kpomeara@Aol. Com; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Kate; Bob [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Uri Dowbenko; Lois Ann Battuello; Linda Minor [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Tthe Herbert S. Winokur Public Policy Fund at Harvard University http://www.ksg.harvard.edu/visions/gtrept.htm Pug's public policy fund at Harvard, funded with the wealth he created side by side with Harvard, while he was a Harvard Management (Endowment) trustee, including in HUD housing (NHP WMF), has funded the following report by the John F. Kennedy (Cuomo's wifes uncle) School at Harvard (current employer of the former FHA Commissioner, Nic Retsinas, and former employer of the current FHA Commissoner, Bill Apgar). Lois---note joint Harvard-Stanford project. Cat-we should add publication to chronology. Thanks. == = Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy By Ashton B. Carter, John M. Deutch and Philip D. Zelikow A Report of Visions of Governance for the Twenty-First Century A Project of the John F. Kennedy School of Government Harvard University ©1998 by the Board of Trustees of Leland Stanford Junior University and the Board of Trustees of Harvard University This report was made possible in part by the Carnegie Corporation of New York, the John D. and Catherine T. MacArthur Foundation, and the Herbert S. Winokur Public Policy Fund at Harvard University. The statements made and views expressed are solely the responsibility of the authors. Contents Foreword: Preventive Defense Acknowledgments Catastrophic Terrorism: Elements of a National Policy Imagining the Transforming Event Organizing for Success Intelligence and Warning Prevention and Deterrence Crisis and Consequence Management Acquisition Conclusion Notes About the Authors About Visions of Governance for the Twenty-First Century About the Stanford-Harvard Preventive Defense Project Foreword: Preventive Defense Through more than four decades of Cold War, American national security strategy was difficult to implement but easy to understand. America was set on a clear course to contain Soviet expansionism anywhere in the world, all the while building a formidable arsenal of nuclear weapons to deter the Soviet Union from using military force against it or its allies. Now, with the end of the Cold War, the underlying rationale for that strategythe threat from the Soviet Unionhas disappeared. What strategy should replace it? Much depends on finding the correct answer to this question. The world survived three global wars this century. The first two resulted in tens of millions of deaths, but the thirdthe Cold Warwould have been even more horrible than the others had deterrence failed. These three wars trace a path that leads to the strategy needed for the post-Cold War era. At the end of the First World War, the victorious European allies sought revenge and reparations; what they got was a massive depression and another world war. The United States sought "normalcy" and isolation; what it got was total war and leadership in winning it. Because it failed to prevent and then to deter Germanys aggression, America was forced to mobilize a second time to defeat it. At the end of the Second World War, America initially chose a strategy based on prevention. Vowing not to repeat the mistakes made after World War I, the Truman administration created the Marshall Plan, which sought to assist the devastated nations of Europe, friends and foes alike, to rebuild. The Marshall Plan and other examples of the preventive defense strategy, aimed at preventing the conditions that would lead to a future world war, were an outstanding success in Western Europe and in Japan. But the Soviet Union turned down the Marshall Plan and, instead, persisted in a program of expansion, trying to take advantage of the weakened condition of most of the countries of Europe. The resulting
[CTRL] Fwd: 1992 1995 Membership: Council on Foreign Relations
Council on Foreign Relations, The Harold Pratt House, 58 East 68th Street, New York NY 10021, Tel: 212-734-0400, Fax: 212-861-1789. WEB SITE IS http:\\www.foreignrelations.org Membership Roster. 1995. The Council on Foreign Relations has been the most powerful private organization in U.S. foreign policy since it began in 1921. While priding itself on non-partisanship and on recent efforts to recruit minorities, women, and youth (under 35), CFR's 3200 members mainly reflect the resources needed by the ruling class to maintain their power. Don't call them if you want to join; they call you. And don't wait for a call unless you have big money, national security expertise, CIA experience, a political constituency, or clout with the media. CFR publishes the prestigious journal "Foreign Affairs" as well as a number of books and reports. Another major activity is to organize closed meetings for their members with assorted world leaders. Everyone feels free to share views and information about current world events, primarily because CFR has strict confidentiality rules and keeps its records locked up for 25 years. To save disk space, the several membership rosters in NameBase were entered to avoid redundancy. Citations to membership rosters prior to 1995 (1985, 1988, 1990, and 1992) were deleted if the name also appears on the 1995 roster. Council on Foreign Relations. Membership Roster. 1995 AARON DAVID L ABBOUD A ROBERT ABBOUD LABEEB M ABDEL-MEGUID TAREK ABEGGLEN JAMES C ABEL ELIE ABRAM MORRIS B ABRAMOWITZ MORTON I ABRAMS ELLIOTT L ABSHIRE DAVID MANKER ABURDENE ODEH ACKERMAN PETER ADAMS GORDON M ADAMS ROBERT MCCORMICK ADELMAN CAROL C ADELMAN KENNETH L AGNEW HAROLD M AGOSTINELLI ROBERT F AGRONSKY MARTIN AHO C MICHAEL AIDINOFF M BERNARD AJAMI FOUAD AKINS JAMES ELMER ALBRIGHT ALICE PATTERSON ALBRIGHT MADELEINE K ALDERMAN MICHAEL H ALDRICH GEORGE H ALEXANDER ROBERT J ALEXANDER SARAH ELIZABETH ALFORD WILLIAM P ALLAIRE PAUL ARTHUR ALLBRITTON JOE LEWIS ALLEN JODIE T ALLEN LEW JR (GEN) ALLEN ROBERT E (ATT) ALLISON GRAHAM T JR ALLISON RICHARD C ALMOND MICHAEL ALPERN ALAN N ALTMAN ROGER C ALTMAN SIDNEY ALTSCHUL ARTHUR G ALVARADO DONNA M ALVAREZ JOSE E AMES OAKES AMOS DEBORAH ANDELMAN DAVID A ANDERSEN HAROLD WAYNE ANDERSON CRAIG B ANDERSON JOHN B (R-IL) ANDERSON LISA ANDERSON MARCUS A (GEN) ANDERSON PAUL F ANDERSON ROBERT ORVILLE ANDREAS DWAYNE ORVILLE ANDREAS TERRY ANDREWS DAVID R ANSOUR M MICHAEL ANTHOINE ROBERT ANTHONY JOHN DUKE APGAR DAVID PUSCHEL APODACA JERRY APONTE MARI CARMEN APPIAH KWAME ANTHONY APTER DAVID E ARASKOG RAND V ARCINIEGA TOMAS A ARCOS CRESENCIO S ARLEDGE ROONE ARMACOST MICHAEL HAYDEN ARMSTRONG ANNE LEGENDRE ARMSTRONG C MICHAEL ARMSTRONG JOHN A ARNHOLD HENRY H ARNOLD MILLARD W ARON ADAM M ARONSON BERNARD W ARONSON JONATHAN DAVID ART ROBERT J ARTHURS ALBERTA BEAN ARTZT EDWIN LEWIS ASENCIO DIEGO C ASHER ROBERT E ASMUS RONALD D ASSEVERO VICKI-ANN E ASSOUSA GEORGE E ATHERTON ALFRED LEROY JR (ROY) ATWOOD J BRIAN AUER JAMES E AUGUSTINE NORMAN R AUSPITZ JOSIAH LEE AUSUBEL JESSE HUNTLEY AVEDON JOHN F AVERY JOHN E AYERS H BRANDT BABBITT BRUCE E BACOT JOHN CARTER BADER WILLIAM B BAER M DELAL BAEZA MARIO L BAILEY CHARLES W BAINES LESLIE E BAIRD CHARLES F BAKER HOWARD H JR (R-TN) BAKER JAMES EDGAR BAKER PAULINE H BAKER STEWART A (NSA GENERAL COUNSEL) BALARAN PAUL BALDWIN DAVID A BALDWIN H FURLONG BALDWIN RICHARD EDWARD BALDWIN ROBERT E BALDWIN SHERMAN BALES CARTER F BALICK KENNETH D BALILES GERALD L BALL DAVID GEORGE BARBER CHARLES F BARBER JAMES A JR BARDEL WILLIAM G BARGER TERESA C BARKER JOHN P BARNDS WILLIAM J BARNES HARRY G JR BARNES MICHAEL D (D-MD) BARNET RICHARD J BARNETT A DOAK BARNETT MICHAEL N BARNETT ROBERT WARREN BAROODY WILLIAM JOSEPH JR BARR THOMAS D BARRETT BARBARA MCCONNELL BARRETT JOHN A BARRETT NANCY SMITH BARRY JOHN L BARRY LISA B BARRY THOMAS C BARTHOLOMEW REGINALD BARTLETT JOSEPH W BARTLETT THOMAS A BARTLEY ROBERT L BARTON CHRISTOPHER BASEK JOHN T BASHAWATY ALBERT C BASORA ADRIAN ANTHONY BASS JAMES E BASS PETER E BASSOW WHITMAN BATKIN ALAN R BATOR FRANCIS MICHEL BATTAGLIA CHARLES BATTLE LUCIUS D (LUKE) BAUMAN ROBERT P BAUMANN CAROL EDLER BAUMANN ROGER R BEAN ATHERTON BEARD RONALD S BEATTIE RICHARD I BECHERER HANS W BECKLER DAVID Z BEEMAN RICHARD E BEGLEY LOUIS BEHRMAN JACK N BEILENSON ANTHONY C (D-CA) BEIM DAVID O BEINECKE WILLIAM S BEITLER RUTH MARGOLIES BELFER ROBERT A BELL DAVID ELLIOTT BELL GORDON P BELL HOLLEY MACK BELL J.BOWYER BELL PETER D BELL STEPHEN E BELL-ROSE STEPHANIE BELLAMY CAROL BELLINGER JOHN B III BELLO JUDITH HIPPLER BENBOW TERENCE H BENDER GERALD J BENEDICT KENNETTE M BENNET DOUGLAS J JR BENNETT ANDREW BENNETT J.F. BENNETT SUSAN J BENSON LUCY WILSON BEPLAT TRISTAN E BEREUTER DOUGLAS K BERGER MARILYN BERGER SAMUEL R (SANDY) BERGER SUZANNE BERGSTEN C FRED BERKOWITZ BRUCE D BERMAN HOWARD L (D-CA) BERNARDIN JOSEPH CARDINAL BERNDT JOHN E BERNSTEIN DAVID S BERNSTEIN PETER W BERNSTEIN ROBERT L BERNSTEIN TOM A BERRESFORD SUSAN VAIL BERRIS JAN CAROL BESSIE SIMON MICHAEL
[CTRL] Fwd: Bombed Sudan Pharmaceutical Plant Update
Security Run by Terrorist Suspect¹ London Times, 7-30-00 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Nick Fielding A SUDANESE businessman who has been linked by the American CIA to the world's most wanted terrorist is the leading shareholder in a company that provides security systems to the Houses of Parliament. Salah Idris, 48, whose pharmaceutical factory in Sudan was flattened by American cruise missiles after it was linked to Osama Bin Laden, the Saudi terrorist, owns 25% of IES, a company specialising in high-technology surveillance and security management. The Kent-based firm not only provides advanced digital video cameras to monitor public areas at Westminster but has also installed surveillance equipment at the Royal Courts of Justice in London. Its digital playback consoles are used by New Scotland Yard. The firm also provides security systems for blue-chip companies including British Airways, Texaco and Dixons. Idris has strongly denied any links with Bin Laden, suspected of organising the bombing of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania in 1998, in which more than 200 people were killed. Idris, a multimillionaire, bought his shares in IES from a man who was at the centre of the "arms-to-Iraq" affair. Last week Idris launched a $50m (#163;31m) lawsuit in London against the American government over the 1998 attack on his pharmaceutical plant in Khartoum just after he had bought it for #163;11m. The Americans said it was producing chemicals for use in Iraq's chemical warfare programme - an allegation strongly denied by Idris. Last week a spokesman for the CIA declined to comment about Idris because of the lawsuit, but said: "We have maintained and continue to maintain that the plant was linked to Bin Laden."
[CTRL] Fwd: Samuel Wilson/CIA/College President
Charleston Post Courier Former spy urges U.S. to stay course on terror By: TERRY JOYCE 2/06/99 Page: B03 Be patient and stay the course is the advice retired Lt. Gen. Samuel V. Wilson, president of Hampden-Sydney College, dispensed Friday when asked how he thinks the United States should react to threats. ``Terrorism is probably the greatest threat,'' he said in an interview. ``We'll never be completely secure. That's impossible. But I think we're doing some things right.'' Wilson, 75, has a personal history that includes work as a Cold War spy master and a hot war soldier. He spent 37 years in the Army at work ranging from Merrill's Marauders behind Japanese lines during World War II to deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency. In between, he was a Cold War spy who dodged bullets along the Iron Curtain and served as a Russian translator at various Summit conferences. He was in Charleston to attend a Hampden-Sydney board of trustees meeting and to award retired Army Gen. William C. Westmoreland with an honorary doctorate. Wilson shares a heritage with Hampden-Sydney, whose founders include one of his ancestors, Nathaniel Venable. The private school is one of three all-male colleges in the country, he said, a condition he believes fosters bonding among students and produces exceptional graduates. He teaches U.S. Foreign Policy and National Security and an Overview of U.S. Intelligence. He laughs because his students call the second course ``Spying 101.'' Wilson said he asks his students to adopt certain roles, such as a top post at the CIA or defense attache in Moscow. Then he tells them to dig up some real information and report back. ``Ninety percent of all intelligence is out in the open,'' he said. ``The students learn they can pick up a lot in the library and on the Internet. Often, before the course is over, we can tell if they were right.'' External threats aside, Wilson seemed more concerned about what he believes is a decline in moral values throughout the country. Last month, he said, the editor of Hampden-Sydney's college newspaper appeared on the PBS Newshour along with campus editors from Princeton University and the universities of Southern California, Wisconsin and North Carolina at Chapel Hill. Only the Hampden-Sydney editor reported that students at his college seemed more interested in President Clinton's impeachment trial than in the stock market or graduation. ``If he (Clinton) were a student at Hampden-Sydney, he would be expelled for lying,'' Wilson said, quoting the Hampden-Sydney editor. The college has an honor code much like the U.S. military academies. ``I was proud of him,'' he said, referring to his school's editor. ``But I was worried about the other four.'' Wilson feels that the U.S. military does well in several areas, especially in helping people in Third World countries. He applauded units of the S.C. Army National Guard, which have helped teach people in places like Honduras how to improve their lives. Wilson said he recognizes the dilemma that Clinton's impeachment trial represents. He doesn't want to reward Clinton's behavior, he said, but he also doesn't want to damage the presidency. He insisted there's ``no quick fix'' to any of our problems. The military especially needs the funding that comes from a consistent defense policy. Click here to send feedback. Copyright © 2000 Charleston.Net. All Rights Reserved.
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from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ Click Here: A HREF="http://www.aci.net/kalliste/"The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe/A - Digital Society Hacker Housewives Destroy Needlepoint Industry First there was Napster. Now there is pattern sharing! LOS ANGELES - If the $40 billion global music business thought it had problems with the emergence of a revolutionary Internet tool called Napster, consider the now-terrified needlepoint industry. For years, hobbyists hungry for doily-and-swan patterns have forked over $6 and $7 for them. Without a peep of complaint, they have provided a steady stream of revenue to pattern publishers such as Cross My Heart and Pegasus Originals. In a good year, Pegasus can pull in about $500,000 from selling the copyrighted patterns to its customers. No more. Taking a cue from music-bootlegging teenagers, stitching enthusiasts have discovered that they too can steal copyrighted material via the Internet, thanks to anonymous file-sharing techniques. ''I'm only sharing with my friends and their friends,'' said Carla Conry, a mother of six who runs PatternPiggiesUnite!, a 350-person underground Internet community of stitchers who swap the patterns. ''Why shouldn't friends help each other out and save a little bit of money?'' What is neighborly fun for Ms. Conry is outright theft to needlepoint companies and the artists who create the patterns. Sales at the South Carolina design shop Pegasus have dropped as much as $200,000 a year since 1997, in part because of such swapping, said its founder, Jim Hedgepath. He and a handful of companies and designers are gathering evidence to wage a legal battle against the stitchers. ''They're housewives and they're hackers,'' Mr. Hedgepath said. ''I don't care if they have kids. I don't care that they are grandmothers. They're bootlegging us out of business.'' Like the record industry, the sewing world has been unable to come up with any practical alternative to innovative file-swapping communities that proliferate online. Some of the same entertainment conglomerates whose music divisions are fighting Napster, such as Time Warner Inc., are feeling the pinch from the pattern-swapping. Legal experts are just starting to wrestle with the implications of new technologies that will permit the instant distribution of information. Business people are trembling at the prospect that file-swapping will not stop at music, videos and needlepoint. There are rumblings that it has spread to knitting and crocheting. ''Where will it end?'' asked Marilyn Leavitt-Imblum, 54, who designs needlepoint patterns. She said she did not understand how people could ''stitch a stolen angel and still live with themselves.'' The little-known debate highlights the legal clash over copyrights in cyberspace, where many consumers now believe that all information - whether it is architectural designs or an Aerosmith record - should be freely shared. If you can digitize it, you can steal it. And chances are someone has. ''People don't see it as stealing,'' said Jonathan Gaw, an electronic-commerce analyst who tracks Internet trends for the research firm IDC. ''Things will only change when publishers of all kinds make it easier to buy and pay for it online than to get it for free somewhere else.'' The stitching debate started about a year ago, when a group of women - who also happened to have PCs and digital scanners - decided to exchange needlepoint designs. The paper patterns, each essentially a large grid filled with thousands of tiny squares, are the how-to instructions for a needlepoint practitioner. For years, fans photocopied the patterns and sent them to each other. Not by the dozens, mind you. Just one or two, tucked inside ''with a recipe and a note,'' said Carlene Davis, 52, who lives in southwest Idaho. ''Just being neighborly.'' Ms. Davis went online and scoured various Internet message boards devoted to arts and crafts. She stumbled onto one board, called rec.crafts.textiles.needlework, and discovered hundreds of other frustrated stitchers. Here was ground zero of a vast network of needlepoint designers and, much to their chagrin, pirates hungry for freebies. Messages directed board readers to Web sites and computer servers filled with hundreds of pattern books - all saved in an electronic format. Vicious debates over pattern-sharing exploded on the Net, and continue to rage. ''I'm promoting the designers,'' said Shawna Dooley, 25, a homemaker in Alberta. ''We're just sampling the patterns. If you like one pattern, you're going to be more likely to go out and buy a pattern by that artist next time.'' The needlepoint industry has refused to take the situation lying down. Shop owners fear that the practice will put designers - who can make as little as 10 cents per pattern sold - out of business. Some needlepoint designers make a healthy salary off their art: Ms. Leavitt-Imblum said she had grossed $8 million in sales over the past 14 years. But
Re: [CTRL] [2]Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: from Uri Dowbenko's new article on Tyree
Jenny, I do not make attachments. Any attachments on my emails are made by aol, because they are too long for email. I have a macintosh and there are very few viruses that attack macs and shan't be passed on to your pc machine. Also, you may read the "attachment at either of archives if you are worried about viruses. On my fowards, again you may read or download from archives. Archives have virus protection programs. Om K In a message dated 8/6/00 6:02:00 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kris, Instead of making attachments on your postings, can you simply paste the info in the email window? Plenty of people on the list may be leary of opening any attachments, considering that they are the most frequent source of viruses. Thanks, Jenny Decker A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Biological weapons to control mental states
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: "Alex Constantine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Lloyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Biological weapons to control mental states Date: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:05 AM A note from Cynthia Ford, a N. California researcher: In 1985, a U.S. Army report (DOD, "Biological Defense Program," ch. 1, pp. 8-9) noted: It is possible to artificially produce the natural biological substances which exert potent regulatory effects on the body. These substances are normally present in the body in minute amounts and control mental states; mood and emotion; perception; organ function, growth and repair; temperature; and other body processes. These substances ar4e not considered to be toxic and are indespensable to the normal functioning of the human body. but even slight imbalances can cause profound physiological effects, leading to incapacitation and even death. Due to the advent of rDNA, these substances can be produced in large amounts by molecular cloning. In fact, in this form they are stable, simple to store, and rapidly expandable. Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] AP: Chelsea Clinton may campaign for mom (fwd)
Prudy, It is not one's political party status or predeliction(conserv/lib)that drives one to hurt another. It is pride. Would you be tolerant of a conservative saying that, in face of Rapist Clinton, about rape that "Liberals apparently like that sort of thing. It must be their version of sexual values"? No. Foxter - Original Message - From: Prudence L. Kuhn To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] Fw: Re: [CTRL] AP: Chelsea Clinton may campaign for mom (fwd) In a message dated 08/05/2000 4:35:14 AM Eastern Daylight Time,[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So Chelsea is sacred and not to belaughed at. I didn't say that did I? I didn't like it when Rush Limbaugh and some buddyof his said on his radio show that Chelsea was really ugly. I think she wasl2 or l3 at the time, and her father was not yet president. I just neverlistened to one word that Rush Limbaugh said ever again. No one who tells apreteen or teenage girl she is ugly is worth listening to. It was someoneelse who said that the Chelsea Clinton jokes were disgusting. I imagine theyare, but I have never heard any of them. If they are as described, I holdwith my statement that Conservatives apparently like that sort of thing. Itmust be their version of family values. PrudyA HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/ADECLARATION DISCLAIMER==CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandicscreeds are unwelcomed. Substance-not soap-boxing-please! These aresordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'-with its many half-truths, mis-directions and outright frauds-is used politically by different groups withmajor and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought.That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, andalways suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives nocredence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector.Archives Available at:http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.htmlA HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of[EMAIL PROTECTED]/Ahttp:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/ATo subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email:SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED]Om
Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE
Greetings: I have been trying to get the information on this case from the web sight and cannot do it. Any suggestions? Fred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
In a message dated 00-08-06 03:26:09 EDT, Mike Smith writes: I keep reading posts to the effect of "fight and save America while we still can". Look people, that's NOT gonna happen. Not in your lifetime nor mine. I suppose one could even say it's preordained or prophesied. I am sorry to rain on your 4th of July parade, but there will be no saving of America no matter how many guns you have stashed. Should I presume you are from England or Australia since they have given up their guns and made themselves defenseless against their government? I can't speak for everyone on this list, nor can I speak for most people on this list, but I can tell you we are Americans. We won't sit idle and watch our liberty be taken from us without a fight. Talking does little to protect freedom, action is required. Our Constitution gives us the right to end our government and start over should the present government become an untenable tyranny. The United States was formed because we were oppressed by the Monarch of our country and fought and won our freedom, not by talking but by fighting. You seem to have a defeatist attitude and it is doubtful you would have the stomach to end a tyranny. When the criminals in Congress decide to forcibly remove arms from the hands of private citizens that is when many Americans will have had their fill of the fascist state. Most of us are not so naïve to believe that government will listen to our cries for freedom. Government is Force, excessive use of Force; the only way to overcome force is by more force. Government has two choices, either return freedom, or relinquish control of the Republic. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Biological weapons to control mental states
FYI [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: .. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: "Alex Constantine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Lloyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Biological weapons to control mental states Date: Wednesday, August 02, 2000 1:05 AM A note from Cynthia Ford, a N. California researcher: In 1985, a U.S. Army report (DOD, "Biological Defense Program," ch. 1, pp. 8-9) noted: It is possible to artificially produce the natural biological substances which exert potent regulatory effects on the body. These substances are normally present in the body in minute amounts and control mental states; mood and emotion; perception; organ function, growth and repair; temperature; and other body processes. These substances ar4e not considered to be toxic and are indespensable to the normal functioning of the human body. but even slight imbalances can cause profound physiological effects, leading to incapacitation and even death. Due to the advent of rDNA, these substances can be produced in large amounts by molecular cloning. In fact, in this form they are stable, simple to store, and rapidly expandable. Forwarded for info and discussion from the New Paradigms Discussion List, not necessarily endorsed by: *** Lloyd Miller, Research Director for A-albionic Research a ruling class/conspiracy research resource for the entire political-ideological spectrum. **FREE RARE BOOK SEARCH: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** Explore Our Archive: http://a-albionic.com/a-albionic.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
- Original Message - From: "Ynr Chyldz Wyld" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse From: "Mike Smith" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I keep reading posts to the effect of "fight and save America while we still can". Look people, that's NOT gonna happen. Not in your lifetime nor mine. I suppose one could even say it's preordained or prophesied. I am sorry to rain on your 4th of July parade, but there will be no saving of America no matter how many guns you have stashed. So we're all just supposed to sit back and do nothing? I guess you've never heard the common saying "God helps those who help themselves." June That's an interesting point. I'm sure during the great biblical flood many people tried swimming in order to "help themselves" survive. I don't think God helped them out now did He? Should we do nothing about it? That's not something I'd suggest to anyone. I would however suggest people be prepared for their inevitable defeat. Mike Smith A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [2]Fwd: [CIA-DRUGS] Re: from Uri Dowbenko's new article on Tyree
Jenny Decker wrote: Kris, Instead of making attachments on your postings, can you simply paste the info in the email window? Plenty of people on the list may be leary of opening any attachments, considering that they are the most frequent source of viruses. Thanks, Jenny Decker People need to learn about the types of files that could harm PCs in order to alleviate needless fears. A text file (.txt) or a hypertext file (.htm, .html) will not harm your system. Look out .vbs, .exe., .com files. Never execute those unless you are dead sure of your source. Here's a good page to start learning about virus facts and fictions: http://www.Vmyths.com/resource.cfm This guy is an expert: http://www.Vmyths.com/about/aboutrob.cfm -- ´´ Mark McHugh Sapere aude! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] General Observations
In a message dated 00-08-05 11:06:17 EDT, Bob Tatman writes: "Violence is always a copout. Violence is the lazy person's answer to problems." It is *so* easy to whip out a gun, snarl in Eastwood-esque voice "Go ahead, make my day," and blow away the other guy. Violence perpetrated on them is probably the only thing that politicians are afraid of. When someone pulls a gun on you are you going to plead with him or her not to shoot you, or will you pull a gun and kill them first. It is your right to protect yourself and if they have a gun aimed at you; you have every right to kill them for they are threatening you with death. If you initiate the "violence" then you deserve what you get. Do you not see that government is killing us every chance they get. They kill us with drugs that do not cure ills. They kill us with their special police forces that do not have to answer for their misdeeds. They may even shoot down civilian aircraft with missles. They send our young men and women to war to further their chances at becoming rich. Government gives Corporations the "freedom" to kill at will with unsafe working conditions, faulty products, low wages, pollution and many more hidden problems in the making. The government's "War on Drugs" is an even bigger can of shit. It is much harder to see the other guy as a human being, with emotions, fears, and loves that just might be the same as yours if you only took the time to look. These other guys are messing with us daily and care not whether we live or die. We are not much more than cattle to them. I feel no pity for one who puts himself/herself above all others and obviously they do not pity me or other common people. The "enemy" is made up of a whole lot of individuals, each one unique, each one equally our sister or brother. This sounds like the socialist crap they teach in schools and you appear to be wanting to fall for it Why? These rich people who control our lives are not my brothers or sisters. Love your enemy as yourself and he/she will use that against you every time. That is one way religion is used to suppress the masses. Let the bad guys stick it to you, but you should turn the other cheek and feel sorry for them get real. Who translated the Bible, not common people, but scholars (so deemed by the emperor) who work for the emperor. Would a God tell you to follow rules made by men, I sincerely doubt that, but there it is in the Bible to keep the peace and follow the laws of the emperor. The socialist religion says the same thing God is your government, it is your Mommy and Daddy and will take care of you be an adult you do not need government to care for you. Sure, I know it's easier to deal with people as groups, to stereotype them with their group characteristics, so that all cops are brutal, all politicians are corrupt, all businessmen interested in only the bottom line... But the hard truth is that some cops are actually gentle and caring; some politicians are actually honest; some businessmen are actually interested in the welfare of their workers. Here you have named the exceptions rather than the rules. If five percent were the exception it would amaze me. The hard truth is that most law officers start out as very caring people who want to serve and protect. They are jaded through the years. They see only the worst part of society and it is very hard to stick to your principles when it seems most of the world is out to get you. I've never met an honest politician, ever. Businessmen who care about the welfare of their workers? Maybe a middle level manager or a line lead, but those at the top could care less about the people that make money for them. I've seen this in action and worked for several corporations. They care so much about their workers that they send the business to some foreign country because it saves money and the shareholders like that. The shareholders could save even more money if they fired American management and sent that to a third world foreign country. Do not forget that our government condones and even supports loss of American jobs by giving corporations tax advantages Business pukes are as bad as politicians, if not worse. "Look behind that bush, for it is not a bush." If you are trying to build a society based on cooperation and mutual aid, you have to learn to trust *everyone*, even your enemies. I trust my enemies to "bend me over" every chance they get. I watch my back because they are to cowardly for a frontal assault. A society based on co-operation and mutual aid is not impossible, but has never worked, man is too greedy. And that is the hardest lesson of all. ...And it is a lesson I am *still* trying to learn, with only mixed success. I tried being Mr. Nice Guy. All that happened is that I was taken for a sucker. Walk softly and carry a .45. Regards, Bob Stokes A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
- Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The Master Plan IS the bible Jews say it is the Torah. Muslims say it is the Koran. Hindus say it is the Bahgavagita. Buddhists say it is the Pali Sutras. Biologists say it is Origin of Species. Communists say it is Das Kapital. They can't all be right. Why should I believe any of them? How right you are. They can't all be right. That's not to say that they're all wrong either. There can only be one version of the truth. Mike Smith A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: England or Australia . . . have given up their guns and made themselves defenseless against their government? And against criminals. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
- Original Message - From: "Bob Stokes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse In a message dated 00-08-06 03:26:09 EDT, Mike Smith writes: I keep reading posts to the effect of "fight and save America while we still can". Look people, that's NOT gonna happen. Not in your lifetime nor mine. I suppose one could even say it's preordained or prophesied. I am sorry to rain on your 4th of July parade, but there will be no saving of America no matter how many guns you have stashed. Should I presume you are from England or Australia since they have given up their guns and made themselves defenseless against their government? I can't speak for everyone on this list, nor can I speak for most people on this list, but I can tell you we are Americans. We won't sit idle and watch our liberty be taken from us without a fight. Talking does little to protect freedom, action is required. Our Constitution gives us the right to end our government and start over should the present government become an untenable tyranny. The United States was formed because we were oppressed by the Monarch of our country and fought and won our freedom, not by talking but by fighting. Speaking of gun politics you're close. I am Canadian. We have very restrictive gun laws here that do nothing but disarm (in time) law abiding gun owners whilst leaving the criminal element to terrorize the populous. We need an N.R.A. Your nation was born out of bloodshed. It's something Americans pride themselves on. There's nothing wrong with overthrowing tyranny in my mind. One however must remember that to live by the sword is to die by the sword. You seem to have a defeatist attitude and it is doubtful you would have the stomach to end a tyranny. When the criminals in Congress decide to forcibly remove arms from the hands of private citizens that is when many Americans will have had their fill of the fascist state. I'd call it a realistic attitude and please don't infer me to be a coward. I simply don't see the point in blasting away at the inevitable gun collection agent(s) who will one day walk up your sidewalk to ring on your doorbell. Unless of course you'd already picked that day to die and wanted to take a few of them out with you. Besides a little gratification it accomplishes nothing but to further the inevitable gun confiscation and have more draconian gun laws legislated. I'm sure everytime there is another school shooting the politicians rejoice privately while send public condolences. And by the way, I wouldn't talk about American readiness to fight tyranny. For instance my fellow compatriots were fighting and DYING in two world wars long before Americans entered the war(s). Whoo hoo! America came in WWI in the last friggin year. In WWII they had to be attacked before they could work up enough adrenalin to get up courage to fight and enter the war. Ya ya... sure sure.. you guys are ready to fight. But only when it suits you. (or rather the elite who sends you off to die) You can expect America to do the right thing but only after they've exhausted every other possibility. ~ Winston Churchill~ Most of us are not so naïve to believe that government will listen to our cries for freedom. Government is Force, excessive use of Force; the only way to overcome force is by more force. Government has two choices, either return freedom, or relinquish control of the Republic. Regards, Bob Stokes And you think I believe that my cries for freedom have any effect of deaf tyrannical ears? Not in the least. I'm not naive enough to think that. I'm also not naive enough to believe that Joe Paycheck and his 30-30 are gong to make a difference in stopping the New World Order. Sure... you'll kill a few of them, but that's all it will accomplish. You've got me all wrong Mr. Stokes. I'm not afraid to fight back at the system. Allow me to clarify. I would very much like to be a thorn in the govt's side. The difference between you and I in this regard is that you think you can win. I beleive the NWO is inevitable but that should not stop me from throwing as many obstacles in their way as I can. IOW You fight back to win. (which you wont) I fight back just to piss them off. (it does) Mike Smith A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply.
[CTRL] Critical Review Of Barry Smith-NWO/Prophecy/Last Days
HTMLFONT SIZE=3 PTSIZE=10 FAMILY="FIXED" FACE="Courier New" LANG="0"The New World Order, Prophecy, and the Last Days: BR A critical review of talks given by Barry SmithBR By Michael J. RushBR Occult and demonic forces are undermining world governments, heralding the Day of Judgement of biblical infamy. At least, according to the New Zealand Christian Evangelist Barry Smith. Barry Smith travels extensively expounding his views on current affairs in relation to Biblical prophecy about the Last Days. The phrase the Last Days refers to a period immediately preceding the time when God will carry out final Judgement on humankind. Prophecy about the Last Days generally deals with events that can be seen as a warning that the biblical Day of Judgement is imminent. The following is a critical review of Barry Smiths claims, put forth by him, in talks at West Bromwich Town Hall on 4th, 5th and 6th October 1997 and another series of talks given at Zion Church, Chesterfield on 11th, 12th and 13th September. BR BR This review will briefly summarise Barry Smith's ideas but will not cover anything like the amount of detail that actually goes into his talks. Some of his meetings are both audio and video taped, and he has written a series of books dealing with his claims. Interested readers are encouraged to pursue the details further for themselves. BR BR According to Barry Smith the Common Market will be the final world empire, which is represented by the feet of iron and clay in Daniels vision of the statue; Dan. 2:31-45. The leader of the European Union will be the anti-Christ, as described in the book of Revalation. The goal of the EU is to set up a New World Order (NWO) in which there is a single world-wide monetary system and world religion, the latter being set up by the World Council of Churches (WCC). This religion, fears Barry Smith, would be Luciferan in nature. That is, devoted to worship of Satan. The NWO will be brought about by the inauguration of a Global Village, basically the assigning of production of certain commodities to particular countries. He quotes Henry Kissenger as saying, By controlling energy we control nations, by controlling food we control individuals. BR BR To set up the Global Village every country will be made to lose its independence by a process of overseas privatisation. Barry Smith alleges that this is being done by two groups called the International Monetary Fund (IMF) and the World Bank. In brief it works as follows; the international money lenders loan large amounts of money to a country whose leaders unwittingly sign Conditionalities Policies. After a number of years the international money lenders then call on these conditions to be fulfilled and the country has no choice but to comply. In order to fulfil the policies the countries government will have to undergo Restructuring, Corporatisation, and Privatisation. Institutions such as Telecom, the Post Office, and Unions will be abolished, and shares will be sold overseas. The end result will be that the debt has been paid but the country will be left with no money and no assets. The country will become ungovernable and world-wide interdependence enforced. This will effectively achieve the abolition of war and pave the way for the Global Village and one-world-government. BR BR Barry Smith claims that New Zealand was selected by the leaders of this NWO plan, to be the guinea pig for these economic and governmental changes. He then says that these principles will be spread to other countries in order to destabilise each nation's government thus making it more easy to control. The alleged link between the Devil's activities in the Last Days and current government is made through the assertion that behind the facade of everyday political activity there is a highly organised and hierarchical system of secret occult societies. These societies, such as the Freemasons, Illuminati, Ordo Templi Orientis, and the Palladium, are working to bring about the NWO in which the freedom and power of individuals and nations will be compromised. Further to the political and economic changes, he claims that each and every individual will be made to receive a silicon chip implant in order to identify that person, in a similar way that pets can currently be electronically tagged in connection with quarantine laws. This will be the mark of the Beast from Rev16:2 and 19:20 and will proceed from the introduction of electronic cash cards, such as Mondex, and culminate in implants. BR BR Furthermore, he claims that satellites have been used to map and divide the whole planet into a series of grid squares, these are further sub-divided to a very small, and therefore accurate, scale. Each of these grid squares has a specific number which can be assigned to a persons silicon chip implant in order to identify not only them but also their exact location. One of the
[CTRL] Study: Believers in extraterrestrial life score higher SATtest
From Nicky Molloy and IUFO-L: Is this evolutionary selection? Alfred Webre, Vancouver, BC Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:04:33 +1200 From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Study: Believers in extraterrestrial life score higher SATtest Superstitious students do worse on tests Saturday, 5 August 2000 13:14 (ET) http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=107705 Superstitious students do worse on tests By ED SUSMAN, UPI Science News WASHINGTON, Aug. 5 (UPI) -- Students who grow up believing in superstitions and other beliefs in the paranormal perform worse on standardized tests than their peers who don't hold such beliefs. "If you believe that black cats are bad luck, and broken mirrors cause bad luck-if you believe that stuff-you are likely not to score as well as others on SAT and other tests," said Michael Sonntag, assistant professor of psychology at Lander University, Greenwood, SC. However, Sonntag said students who believed in the possibility of extraterrestrial or extraordinary life forms tended to score higher on SATs and had higher grade point averages than the students who didn't believe in paranormal abilities or events. "Belief in the possibility of extraordinary life forms or ETs is not necessarily a violation of the physical laws of science," Sonntag said, suggesting that other paranormal beliefs skew a child's knowledge base and might affect scholastic testing. Sonntag interviewed 482 undergraduate students at a state-supported university in the Southeast, about two-thirds of whom were women; three-fourths of the students identified themselves as white, about one fifth were African American. The students provided their high school academic records and underwent an interview which determined scores on a standard scale concerning paranormal beliefs-including traditional religious beliefs, ability to read minds, belief in witchcraft, belief in superstition, spiritualism, precognition and belief in extraordinary life forms. "What stands out," Sonntag said, "is that students who believed in superstition scored significantly lower on their verbal SAT scores, on their math SAT scores, on their grade point average, on their high school rank. They also scored lower than other students in math and sciences, in the humanities and in business courses." Student scores in other areas of paranormal belief also suffered, but not as extensively as those who had strong superstition beliefs, Sonntag reported at the annual meeting of the American Psychological Association in Washington. "Taken together, these results suggest that students who exhibit a belief that simple forces outside of their control tend to guide or shape their behavior may be prone to poorer academic performance," he said. However, he said that virtually across the board, student who believed in ET and other extraordinary life forms, did better academically. Sonntag said some people have criticized the standardized test of paranormal beliefs for including the ET questions; he said his study suggests that those criticisms may be on the mark. He also noted despite increased education, the paranormal beliefs persist. "It seem that most paranormal beliefs are relatively immune to the critical reasoning skills taught in the academy," he said. -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. All rights reserved. -- Return -- Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2000 22:09:52 +1200 From: "Nicky Molloy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Can legalizing drugs bring us closer to God? Higher being Can legalizing drugs bring us closer to God? http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/08/04/spirituality/index.html http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/08/04/spirituality/index1.html Page 2 here. http://www.salon.com/health/feature/2000/08/04/spirituality/index2.html Page 3 - - - - - - - - - - - - By Katharine Mieszkowski Aug. 4, 2000 | Huston Smith, 81, speaks slowly with the deliberate enunciation and wry playfulness of a serious scholar who is used to having what he says deeply considered. Seated in his Berkeley, Calif., living room, the authority on world religions takes out a letter he's just received from a reader of his most recently published book. The letter recounts a spiritual epiphany. "It is so moving," Smith intones warmly and begins to read it aloud with evident respect: Print story E-mail story Backflip this story to find it again "It was like I traveled into myself and broke through to the other side, and I was in the presence of God. I was in communion with all that ever could be, and experienced love beyond measure. I experienced a person loving me. Being love. Being
[CTRL] Robert Anton Wilson: Previous Thoughts
http://www.rawilson.com/prethought.html Updated 17 Confusion 142 Nortonian [12 June 2000 Papist] The Two Lying Bastards Show I'm looking forward to a great new TV sitcom this summer/fall season -- the Two Lying Bastards Show, in which a pair of our most talented clowns, Al Gore and George W. Bush, will appear, both as solo acts and as orchestrated duets. Gore will attempt to keep a straight face while claiming that he hasn't smoked any reefer lately, at least not really lately, and Bush will also attempt to look honest and truthful while swearing that he hasn't snorted any coke in recent years, or months, or weeks. Both will endeavor to look stern and righteous while explaining why we need more prisons for the poor folks who share one or both of these recreational habits. Man, it should rank as the "laff riot" of the year, as Hollywood would say. I wonder if there exists a single hominid critter with more than a half inch of forhead who can take either of these mutts seriously? The voter turnout last time was the lowest in our history; more than half of the eligible voters didn't even bother to go to the polls. It will undoubtedly drop even lower this time. Hey -- suppose they gave an election and nobody came? 9 Confusion 3166 y.D. Corporations that have donated at least $500,000 to both Gore and Bush [Source: Jim Hightower] ATT Philip Morris Amer Financial Group Microsoft Atlantic Richfield Co. SBC Communications Enron Mirage Resorts Federal Express Citigroup Amer Airlines Bell Atlantic Anheuser-Busch Limited Inc. Pfizer Rite Aid Schering-Plough BellSouth Joseph E. Seagram Sons Bristol-Myers Squibb Union Pacific Blue Cross Blue Shield MBNA Corp America Online Amer Intl Group MCI Worldcom Ernst Young Circus Circus Enterprises Sprint AFLAC Time Warner Boeing Prudential Insurance Ocean Spray Cranberries Paine Webber MGM Grand Archer Daniels Midland Walt Disney Coca-Cola Flo-Sun Sugar Co. Lockheed Martin Intl. Game Technology United Airlines Oracle Exxon Mobil United Technologies US West Pacific Gas Electric Upjohn Owens Corning Chevron Park Place Entertainment Bacardi Martini USA Boston Capital Partners Eli Lilly Co. Georgia-Pacific Amer Home Products Amer Express Bechtel Group Loews Corp Sunoco General Electric Northern Telecom General Dynamics New York Life Insurance United HealthCare Now, folks, who do you think will win the election? Or does it really matter a damn? 28 Kupris 79 p.s.U. TSOG [Tsarist Occupation Government] According to a widely discussed article by Seymour Hersh [The New Yorker, May 22, 2000, pp. 49-82] our current Tsar seems guilty of war crimes under the Nuremberg rules. This surprises me about as much as the news that the Pope lists his religious affiliation as Catholic, or that furry mammals of the ursine family perfom their excretory functions in sylvan environments. Bill Clinton may be 77 kinds of sonofabitch, as most of us think, but he's no fool. When he picks a Tsar, he finds the right sort of man for the job. But with the march of technology, and the almost daily announcements of new marvels and monstrosities of genetic engineering Bore or Gush might surpass him,; they might dig up the bones and clone Ivan the Terrible. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and
[CTRL] Fwd: 1 Kings, from The holy Bible, King James version
This is for the prophets of doom and gloom; do you know the word prophecy equates to propaganda? That when Hitler dug up the words of Nostradamus and had his propagandist predicting victory for the Germans, that Winston Churchill drug them out also and had his astrologers working overtime predicting victory for the Englis? English never did appreciate our Amrican "Yanks" dying for that bunch of war mongers.freedom for whom? Freedom from what when the big bankers profitted at the expense of the jews, christians, catholics and even the gypsies for they wore golden earrings? So - John F. Kennedy, in this day and age, these bastards sent out a creep like Jean Dixon to prophecy murder for the Kennedys, to plant seeds of destruction and in her book which I call Gift of Propaganda (she called Gift of Prophecy) at the end she claims America must be cleansed by fire and the filth and garbage removed; she prophesied Russia would beat us to the moon and I know now, that J. Edgar Hoover who got on her Children to Children Board is the man responsible for exposing her fraudulant use of this foundation money.I was on Hoover's list but he told his men and Frank Fitzsimmons of Teamsters, that I was getting the information on my on - all that secret stuff. Nobody knows what Hoover was really like or why he did the things he did but I know this, the night he was murdered - Law Day - and big communist day, I knew he was to be murdered and Walter Cronkite set the stage.said Hoover had given LGB Sex Files for nighty nite reading and today Larry Flynt has those files, for the infomratio he puts out is very, very oldtreason walks within. So Tokyo Rose, Nostradamus, Lord Haw Haw - all served a purpose - I used to call Jean Dixon the Tokyo Rose of Washingon Square.she was worse than a hired hit man. So read this from Kings and see the secret of prophecy and propaganda before your eyes and wonder about the little Princes of Walkes, little John John and JFK and RFK and Wallace and see how the malevolent press and people like Dixon prepared the stage for murder..Premeditated Murder By Prophecy, the VAlley of Hamon Gog...and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitudes, and they shall call it the VAlley of Hamon Gog.. Evil is as evil does...Queen Elizabeth I put out a proclamation and law that any soothsayer, propagandist, astrologer and phoney prophet who prediced when the King or Queen should die, or how they should die, and how long they should live.would pay with their own lives.rather like the guy in the bible and JFK who said, who kills me trades his life, for mine. Like Ambrose Bierce who wrote a quantrain against McKinley whom he said would lie on the bier gunned by bullet that killed a Governor.. Like Walter Lippman who wrote from the 109th Psalm, the vicious ritualistic vendetta (and that ain't Italian) "let his days be few, let another take his office, his wife a widow and his children fatherless".and in Job, the key verse to hit JFK."neither shall he return to his house anymore"..this worked for RFK also - and Lincoln remember had a phoney prophetess who said she saw blood running down his forehead.well Lincoln was shot from behind and no blood ran down his forehead, but dead is dead and the great grandson of a member of the Hells Fire Club, John Wilkes, did the job. A Shakespearian Actor, none the less...first the play or movie, then the act... So take away negative people from me; when people see the truth, it will sufficeno NWO will take over and break our constitution for they lack the authority and it is the 6 billion against the Gideon 300.. Saba Example of Royal Secret - for you can be sure, all knowledge came from the Church and Universities and some was deciphred by Sigmund Freud = see Job 19-21 key to murder, merging of id, ego, and super ego.sudden death at midnight and Job is key to contract murder as well Bible, King James. 1 Kings, from The holy Bible, King James version Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia Library Conditions of Use | The entire work (140 KB) | Table of Contents for this work | | All on-line databases | Etext Center Homepage | 1 Kings, chapter 22 Compare with Revised Standard Version: 1Kgs.22 1: And they continued three years without war between Syria and Israel. 2: And it came to pass in the third year, that Jehoshaphat the king of Judah came down to the king of Israel. 3: And the king of Israel said unto his servants, Know ye that Ramoth in Gilead is ours, and we be still, and take it not out of the hand of the king of Syria? 4: And he said unto Jehoshaphat, Wilt thou go with me to battle to Ramoth-gilead? And Jehoshaphat said to the king of Israel, I am as thou art, my people as thy people, my horses as thy horses. 5: And Jehoshaphat said unto the king of Israel, Inquire, I pray thee, at the word of the LORD to day. 6: Then the king of Israel gathered the
[CTRL] Flight 800- Fuel Tank Controversy
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: "Alex Constantine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Lloyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Flight 800- Fuel Tank Controversy Date: Tuesday, August 01, 2000 9:21 PM Village Voice Published August 2 - 8, 2000 The Four-Year Investigation Ends, the Mystery Endures Flight 800's Last Stage by Robert Davey ith a public meeting set for later this month, the endgame of the long, very costly investigation into the crash of TWA Flight 800 may be at hand. On August 22 and 23, victims' family members, their lawyers, and others will gather at National Transportation Safety Board headquarters in Washington, D.C., for what the NTSB calls a "Sunshine Meeting." They will listen to a formal presentation by NTSB staffers of their final report on the crash of TWA Flight 800, which exploded without warning as it climbed smoothly out of JFK on its way to Paris, at 8:31 p.m. on July 17, 1996. If the five-member board decides to accept the TWA 800 report's conclusions, they will vote on a probable cause for the crash. Going by its public statements over the past three and a half years, the NTSB seems likely to endorse a finding that the aircraft was destroyed because an electrical flaw put a spark into the center fuel tank, causing an explosion. It has been four years since the fiery crash eight miles south of Long Island that killed 230 peopleóthe second-worst airline disaster in U.S. history in terms of fatalitiesóand set off a probe that a recent Learning Channel documentary called "one of the most controversial investigations of all time." As reports of the crash filled the late evening broadcasts of CNN and the networks, eyewitnesses were already coming forward to report that a mysterious, flarelike object had streaked across the sky. These eyewitness reports, which would number in the hundreds, gave rise to the theory that a missile had hit the plane. Soon, full-blown conspiracy theories emerged, alleging that the federal investigation, shared by the FBI and NTSB, was covering up either the first successful terrorist shoot-down of an American airliner or elseóan even more harrowing possibilityóthat a U.S. Navy ship shot down the plane in a ghastly military mistake. But within months the NTSB announced that it had found the cause of the crash: an explosion in the 25-year-old Boeing 747's almost empty center fuel tank. A year later the FBI suspended its criminal investigation, having found no evidence of a bomb or missile. At its five-day hearing on the crash, held in Baltimore in December 1997, NTSB chairman Jim Hall pledged that the Safety Board would continue to search for evidence of what had ignited the center tank explosion, while working to ensure that all ignition sources would henceforth be banned from aircraft fuel tanks and that the exposure of tanks to flammable vapors would be reduced to a minimum. In an unusual show of cooperation with the Safety Board, the FAA last year proposed new rules to enhance fuel system safety, and the Clinton administration took up the cause in May when it said that it would establish a research group to examine wire safety issues. "Aging wiring is an issue of national concern," said a White House memo reported by USA Today. The article mentioned recent wiring malfunctions in the space shuttle fleet and suggested that similar problems were being considered as possible causes for the Swissair 111 and TWA 800 crashes. Yet troubling questions remain. It is worth noting that the NTSB has never found evidence that conclusively shows that a tank explosion caused the TWA 800 crash. Former CNN reporter Christine Negroni, in her book Deadly Departure, details a scenario involving a possible short circuit in wiring outside the center tank, a theory that has come to be favored by investigators. However, the NTSB has yet to demonstrate that any breakdown in Flight 800's systems could have caused an explosion. Now, in interviews with the Voice, two experts in aviation fuel express doubts about the essential question of whether the atmosphere inside TWA 800's center tank that evening was likely to have been truly explosive (see below). Critics of the investigation, of course, have always been skeptical of the center-tank explosion theory, mainly because of the eyewitness evidence that is now at last in the public domain. At the NTSB's August hearing, said spokesman Paul Schlamm, the board will incorporate that evidence into its findings. Eyewitness accounts have long been an important tool for crash investigators; there have been air disasters, for example, in which it was only from eyewitness accounts that investigators could be reasonably sure that lightning had struck an aircraft. According to a 1985 Air Force manual for aircraft accident investigators by Joseph M. Kuchta and Robert G. Clodfelter, "Of particular interest is what the witness saw,
[CTRL] E. coli scare prompts second beef recall
"The USDA reassured consumers that federally inspected meat was safe..." E. coli scare prompts second beef recall The Associated Press WASHINGTON (August 5, 2000 9:42 p.m. EDT http://www.nandotimes.com) - A Pennsylvania meat processor is recalling more than a quarter-million pounds of beef that may be contaminated with potentially deadly E. coli bacteria, the Agriculture Department said Saturday. The same packer last week withdrew 346,700 pounds of suspect ground beef. The latest recall involves 253,350 pounds of MOPAC brand pure ground beef, pure ground sirloin, pure ground round and pure ground chuck, produced by Moyer Packing Co. of Souderton, Pa.. The products were produced on July 19 in 10-pound packages that bear the establishment number 1311 and the date 07/19/00. They were shipped in boxes weighing 40 to 60 pounds to wholesalers in New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Maryland, Virginia, West Virginia, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania and Washington, D.C. The products may have been reground and repackaged at the retail level, USDA said, and consumers may wish to check with their retailers. No illnesses have been reported from this batch, whose recall was triggered when a sample of reground beef collected July 26 from a retail store tested positive for E. coli O157:H7, USDA said. E. coli bacteria can cause bloody diarrhea and dehydration, with the very young, the elderly and those with weakened immune systems most in danger of fatal complications. The first recall, announced July 29, involved 346,700 pounds of ground beef, distributed at the wholesale level in 5- and 10-pound packages. They also were suspected of possible E. coli contamination, but no illnesses were reported. Steve Wingate Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Dems Have a Problem With a Jewish Vice President - Hypocrites
WJPBR Email News List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peace at any cost is a Prelude to War! Dems Have a Problem With a Jewish Vice President Sunday, August 06, 2000 By Thomas Ferraro EAST HAMPTON, N.Y. (Reuters) - Sen. Joseph Lieberman would ''almost be a slam dunk'' as Al Gore's choice for vice-presidential running mate if he were Episcopalian rather than Jewish, Ed Rendell, chairman of the National Democratic Committee, said on Saturday. ``Joe Lieberman would be a bold and courageous choice,'' Rendell said, calling the Connecticut Democrat ``maybe the finest person in politics'' but also acknowledging concerns about a possible backlash against his faith. ``I don't think anyone can calculate the effect of having a Jew on the ticket,'' Rendell told reporters as Gore attended a fund-raiser in East Hampton, New York. ``If Joe Lieberman was Episcopalian, I think he'd almost be a slam dunk,'' Rendell added. Gore intends to name his choice on Tuesday. Lieberman is on the short-list, along with Sens. John Kerry of Massachusetts, John Edwards of North Carolina and Evan Bayh of Indiana, House Democratic Leader Dick Gephardt of Missouri, and New Hampshire Gov. Jeanne Shaheen. Shaheen and Gephardt have said they are not interested. But only Shaheen has said she would not accept the No. 2 slot if it was offered. Gore has also said there is a seventh possible contender, identified only as a ``wild card.'' Rendell joked that he was for the ``wild card,'' though he added he did not know the identity of the person. He said that each of the six known candidates would be a boost but that he was remaining publicly neutral and would not endorse anyone. At the same time, he threw out a couple of other names as potential contenders: Sen. Bob Kerrey of Nebraska, a veteran of Vietnam, where he won the Medal of Honor, and former New Jersey Sen. Bill Bradley, whom Gore defeated for the Democratic presidential nomination earlier this year. Rendell said Kerrey's war-hero status could be a boost to Gore, who also served in Vietnam as an Army journalist. Rendell said that if Gore picked Bradley, a former Rhodes Scholar and professional basketball player, that would also trigger excitement. Asked what Bradley would bring to the ticket, Rendell said, ''Intelligence, integrity and stature and (the states of) Pennsylvania, New Jersey and Delaware.'' Rendell said Gore might have picked Defense Secretary Bill Cohen as his running mate -- if Cohen had not said he intended to vote for fellow Republican George W. Bush for president. ``He'd be dynamite,'' Rendell said of the former Republican senator from Maine. Of Lieberman, Rendell said, ``Maybe that is what we ought to do is pick the finest person in politics -- I think it would be great.'' Asked if Lieberman's faith was enough of a concern to rule him out, Rendell shrugged and said, ``I'm not sure that the people who would vote against us because Joe is Jewish aren't going to vote against us anyway.'' © 2000 Reuters, Ltd. *COPYRIGHT NOTICE** In accordance with Title 17 U. S. C. Section 107, any copyrighted work in this message is distributed under fair use without profit or payment to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for nonprofit research and educational purposes only.[Ref. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml ] Want to be on our lists? Write at [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a menu of our lists! ** *** A vote for Bush or Gore is a vote to continue Clinton policies! A vote for Buchanan is a vote to continue America! Therefore a vote for Gore or Bush is a wasted vote for America! Don't waste your vote! Vote for Patrick Buchanan! Today, candor compels us to admit that our vaunted two-party system is a snare and a delusion, a fraud upon the nation. Our two parties have become nothing but two wings of the same bird of prey... Patrick Buchanan A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A
[CTRL] Government continues to resist Calif.s marijuana law
Government continues to resist Calif.s marijuana law ASSOCIATED PRESS SAN FRANCISCO, Aug. 4 - The Department of Justice on Thursday pledged to continue resisting Californias voter-approved medical marijuana law, arguing the government has the right to penalize doctors who recommend cannabis by revoking their licenses to dispense medication. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LAWYERS argued their position in U.S. District Court here during what may be the final stage of a lawsuit brought by the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU contends that the governments position violates doctors free speech rights, and that many doctors now resist recommending pot for fear of losing their federal right to prescribe medication. U.S. District Court Judge William Alsup was expected to rule within weeks, lawyers said, and the ruling could have broad implications for several states with similar laws. Measures similar to Californias Proposition 215, which voters passed in 1996, have passed in Alaska, Arizona, Hawaii, Maine, Nevada, Oregon and Washington state. Department of Justice lawyer Joseph W. Lobue told the judge that the government doesnt care whether California voters approved the Compassionate Use Act, which allows patients to grow and possess marijuana for medical use with a doctors recommendation. It doesnt matter what California says, Lobue argued. Arguing that federal law applies to the country no matter how states may have voted, Lobue said the government would take the same position in Oklahoma if they had that law. California Attorney General Bill Lockyer has urged Attorney General Janet Reno to ease the federal governments resistance to Californias attempts to implement its initiative. The voters in my state have endorsed the medicinal use of marijuana, Lockyer wrote to Reno in October. © 2000 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed. Steve Wingate Anomalous Images and UFO Files http://www.anomalous-images.com A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Gas Prices Paying for Bush Campain
Let's all get real here! It's been a known fact that we could have had engines that utilize alternative fuels for decades! It's the almighty dollar that keeps us using the same type of engine since its conception prior to the turn of the century. We sent men to the moon and back 31 years ago; you mean to tell me that technology could not come-up with a "revolutionary" engine since that time?! Another point of fact; if the powers that be insist on keeping the gas-driven engines,then why can't they build an engine that gets 200 mpg? The fact of the matter is they could if they wanted to-technology dictates that this is a very simple exercise in engineering.However, the oil companies wouldn't be making the billions they do if this was put into practice. So let us all sit back and continue to let the goverment/oil companies tell us that this is how things are going to be whether we like it or not.Either pay our prices, or don't drive or heat your home.We can afford it, the hell with the rest of you! It's time we demand an alternative to this forced mode of powering our vehicles and furnaces.How long do we stand for this unecessary bull? How any more lies from these thieves are we supposed to swallow? Things don't have to be this way, we, as a people, let it continue! See you at the pumps! A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] West Nile Vaccine To Be Ready In Record Time
West Nile Vaccine Will Be Developed in Record Time -- -- LONDON, Aug 02 (Reuters Health) - The leader of the program to develop a West Nile vaccine said on Monday that it could be ready within 3 to 4 years â half the time it normally takes to launch a new vaccine. Dr. Thomas Monath, vice president of research at OraVax Inc., the US subsidiary of the UK company Peptide Therapeutics, told Reuters Health, "We are quite confident that this is going to be very straightforward and very quick compared with other vaccine developments." He explained in a telephone interview that the company's technology has been proven in the development of vaccines for yellow fever, dengue fever and Japanese encephalitis, which are caused by the same family of viruses as the West Nile virus. Dr. Monath, a former head of the US Army medical corps and researcher at the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, is widely held to be a leading expert on this virus family. "We are confident that within 6 months or so we will have a candidate vaccine in hand," he said. It would then take a year or so to start clinical trials on human volunteers. "The shortest time frame for most vaccines is about 6 years," he explained. "We think we will halve that...and have a full licence in 3 to 4 years from now." Earlier on Monday, OraVax announced that it has been awarded a fast-track small business innovative research grant by the US National Institutes of Health to develop the vaccine. The phase I award is for $263,000, while the phase II grant will be funded at a level of $2.7 million for up to 2 years. In a statement, the company said that it would use its ChimeriVax technology to help develop the West Nile vaccine. A phase III trial of OraVax's yellow fever vaccine has been completed. The company expects to file for US Food and Drug Administration approval later this year. -- -- A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
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Mike Smith wrote: - Original Message - From: "nessie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2000 7:53 AM Subject: Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: The Master Plan IS the bible Jews say it is the Torah. Muslims say it is the Koran. Hindus say it is the Bahgavagita. Buddhists say it is the Pali Sutras. Biologists say it is Origin of Species. Communists say it is Das Kapital. They can't all be right. Why should I believe any of them? How right you are. They can't all be right. That's not to say that they're all wrong either. There can only be one version of the truth. Not necessarily. For example, a person from the equator could experience an autumn day in Canada and think it was cold, whereas the Canadian would not think it was cold. Absolutes mean absolutely nothing to me. And if there is only one version of Truth, is there only one version of Justice, Beauty, Love? Kelly A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dems Have a Problem With a Jewish Vice President - Hypocrites
So they say Lieberman will not be chosen for Vice President is because he is Jewish? Not true. I reproduce the reason Lieberman will not be the chosen one and that includes Diane Feinstein too.when Clinton sunk to bottom of bilge, Feinstein was the first to turn on him like a Pit Bull and Lieberman, who was without sin, it is alleged he alone could cast the first stone. The Democrat Party is a family - they hide each others indiscretions - and Republicans do the same...matter of personal pride and honor. Clinton went off the deep end and I think little Monica was sent in for all knew his weakness...this fat dumpy frump with pizza? Still that that pizza was loaded with Ecstasy and the phone sex with Mossad listening in? And Lieberman will not be the chosen one because he is Jewish? Not it is because he was honest, and they have to skeletons to pull from his closet.Feinstein has few skeletons when you look into her history.. So Lieberman took the less traveled road - and Gore no longer wants to travel on the same well traveled road with Clinton and Flynt and Carville and Barney Frank - or does he? I say this - what is Lieberman's weakness for to this date they have..he has prevented the spy Pollard being released against desires of the mossadGore needs the jewish vote and Hilliary went after the vote with a passion Lieberman was elected in Connecticut - so their is no religious test for running for public office, only if the character or activities of an individual are questionable. Well maybe Lieberman has just a little too much integrity for that lot of thieves and sodomists; yet he refrained from malicious attacks. So do not blame the fact he is jewish for his not being considered for Vice President - it is that Conecticute is a small state, the jewish vote is small in this country - maybe in New York it is needed - but it seems to me that Lieberman ran as a man, and not a jew and was elected on his qualifications? Who knows.now Barney Frank, he has a handicapp...male prostitution ring he ran with? Homosexual we would like to put back in closet? Last think that comes to mind, is he is jewish. So I liked this article; for it tells you what Lieberman did when it came to Clinton - he weighed the scales, and did the right thing, which was the wrong thing if you want to fly with the snow birds - guess Lieberman would rather fly with the eagles? Saba September 3, 1998 Lieberman Addresses the Senate Regarding President Clinton and the Independent Counsel's Investigation Washington, DC -- Sen. Joe Lieberman today addressed his colleagues in the United States Senate with regard to President Clinton and the Independent Counsel's investigation. The following is the text of Lieberman's statement made in the Senate late this afternoon: Mr. President, I rise today to make a most difficult and distasteful statement, for me probably the most difficult statement I have made on this floor in my ten years in the Senate. On August 17th, President Clinton testified before a grand jury convened by the Independent Counsel and then talked to the American people about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky, a former White House intern. He told us that the relationship was "not appropriate," that it was "wrong," and that it was "a critical lapse of judgement and a personal failure" on his part. In addition, after seven months of denying that he had engaged in a sexual relationship with Ms. Lewinsky, the President admitted that his "public comments. . . about this matter gave a false impression." He said, "I misled people." My immediate reaction to this statement was deep disappointment and personal anger. I was disappointed because the President of the United States had just confessed to engaging in an extramarital affair with a young woman in his employ and to willfully deceiving the nation about his conduct. I was personally angry because President Clinton had by his disgraceful behavior jeopardized his Administration's historic record of accomplishment, much of which grew out of the principles and programs that he and I and many others had worked on together in the New Democratic movement. I was also angry because I was one of the many people who had said over the preceding seven months that if the President clearly and explicitly denies the allegations against him, then, of course, I believe him. Since that Monday night, I have not commented on this matter publicly. I thought I had an obligation to consider the President's admissions more objectively, less personally, and to try to put them in a clearer perspective. And I felt I owed that much to President Clinton, for whom I have great affection and admiration, and who I truly believe has worked tirelessly to make life tangibly better in so many ways for so many Americans. But the truth is, after much reflection, my feelings of disappointment and anger have not dissipated. Except now these feelings have gone beyond
[CTRL] NYTimes - Anarchism, the Creed That Won\\\'t Stay Dead
On 5 Aug 2000 19:14:28 - Agent Smiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 5 Aug 2000 01:06:39 -0400 Tom Wheeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.nytimes.com/library/arts/080500anarchy-chic.html August 5, 2000 Anarchism, the Creed That Won't Stay Dead The Spread of World Capitalism Resurrects a Long-Dormant Movement By JOSEPH KAHN Since Karl Marx bested the anarchist leader Mikhail Bakunin in a struggle to shape world revolution a century and a half ago, anarchism has undergone a half-dozen resurrections and almost as many deaths. It was crushed with the Paris Commune in 1871, suppressed in the United States after an anarchist shot President William McKinley in 1901, destroyed by Franco in the Spanish Civil War of the late 1930's and left to wither away with the 1960's student radicalism. Ideologically opposed to power and ambivalent about organization, anarchists perpetually live on the fringe of great movements -- and on the verge of defeat. Yet the very qualities that consign anarchism to obscurity also endow it with many lives, if only as a prefix: anarcho-collectivism, anarcho-syndicalism, anarcho-mutualism, anarcho-individualism, anarcho-ecologism. And at the turn of this century, it is undergoing a fresh resurgence. Black-masked anarchists stoned chain stores in Seattle during global trade talks last year. Protesters with giant A's pasted on their shirts blocked intersections in Washington during demonstrations against international lending agencies last spring. They were in the streets of Philadelphia during the Republican National Convention this week and have promised to stalk the Democratic National Convention in Los Angeles this month. Self-described anarchists are small in number. But anarchism, broadly construed, is becoming fashionable. There are hints of it in the way protesters of diverse loyalties -- labor, environmental and consumer groups among them -- have sought to become a mass but leaderless movement, a collection of affinity groups that operate by consensus. Many of those who oppose the institutions that enforce rules of international capitalism call for a return to local decision-making, echoing longtime anarchist objections to the way nation-states usurped the power of cities and towns. The protests have often been condemned in the mainstream news media as imbecilic and chaotic, all action and no theory. But that is also an anarchist trait. Its adherents have long been dismissed as uneducated and unwashed. Anarchism's most memorable slogan, coined by Enrico Malatesta of Italy, is "propaganda by deed." "With the decline of socialism, you have seen anarchism go through a revival as an easy way to oppose global capitalism," said Paul Avrich, a leading historian of anarchism who teaches at Queens College in New York. Mr. Avrich, who has written extensively on early-20th-century American anarchists, said anarchist cells all but disappeared by the 1970's as the last of the European immigrants who brought the creed to the United States died. But anarchist groups are reappearing in every major city, he says. Today they have their own bookstores, like Blackout Books on the Lower East Side and Social Anarchism in Baltimore. They read The Match, a popular magazine published in Tuscon, Ariz., or Fifth Estate, a Detroit newspaper. Pierre-Joseph Proudhon was probably the first person to call himself an anarchist when he wrote "What Is Property?" in 1840. (His answer: theft.) Proudhon advocated free bank credit and rejected parliamentary politics as hopelessly dominated by the elite. But anarchism was defined and popularized by Bakunin, a heavily bearded Russian insurrectionist who helped foment uprisings across Europe in 1848. Bakunin's motto was, "The urge to destroy is a creative urge." Unlike Marx, Bakunin did not justify his theory as science. He described anarchists as people who know what they are fighting against more than what they are fighting for. Anarchism reached critical mass as a revolutionary movement only once, during the Spanish Civil War of 1936-39. But it has long touched a political and cultural chord in the United States. Henry David Thoreau was an exemplary anarchist, though he never called himself one. Emma Goldman, a Russian immigrant who advocated free love, women's rights and armed insurrection, was the best known of the immigrant anarchists who helped prompt a red scare around World War I. (She appears in E. L. Doctorow's novel "Ragtime" and in Warren Beatty's movie "Reds.") In 1927 the Italian immigrants Nicola Sacco and Bartolomeo Vanzetti, both avowed anarchists, were executed after being convicted of killing a paymaster and his guard at a shoe factory near Boston. Anarchists consider themselves of the left, not the right. But antigovernment ideas that sound anarchist themes are common across the political spectrum. John Wayne, in many of his Westerns, and Mel Gibson,
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On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 01:44:23 -0400 Nate Fischer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a conspiracy?!?!?! === i say: sthey have ears! smirk A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
Mike Smith writes: Speaking of gun politics you're close. I am Canadian. We have very restrictive gun laws here that do nothing but disarm (in time) law abiding gun owners whilst leaving the criminal element to terrorize the populous. We need an N.R.A. You need something similar to G.O.A. the NRA does nothing but compromise time after time. Eventually they will compromise everything away. Most people don't see that the NRA is just a tool used by the Elite class to disarm the public. Your nation was born out of bloodshed. It's something Americans pride themselves on. There's nothing wrong with overthrowing tyranny in my mind. One however must remember that to live by the sword is to die by the sword. There is a time for talking. When that doesn't work, it's time for bloodshed. I'm not religious and don't believe in the sword thing. I'd call it a realistic attitude and please don't infer me to be a coward. Sorry, most who are not willing to fight for freedom are wimps. As far as being realistic, I think I am being realistic. I simply don't see the point in blasting away at the inevitable gun collection agent(s) who will one day walk up your sidewalk to ring on your doorbell. Unless of course you'd already picked that day to die and wanted to take a few of them out with you. I'm not afraid to die, I welcome it, then one is truly free of the suffering of this world. They better send more than just a few if they expect to take me, unless they wait till I'm too old. I'd rather die that way than a slow death rotting away with cancer. Besides a little gratification it accomplishes nothing but to further the inevitable gun confiscation and have more draconian gun laws legislated. The point is that if everyone stood their ground the Elites could not win, there are far more of us than them. Our Constitution is plainly written and our Congress has no right to remove any weapon from our possession-- period. When you compromise you give them a way in. Compromising our Bill of Rights was a mistake that needs to be rectified. I'm sure every time there is another school shooting the politicians rejoice privately while send public condolences. This would not happen if there were not any gun-free zones in schools. Teachers should be armed and trained to protect their students. Getting guns out of schools is just a socialist lie. These laws didn't prevent the two kids at Columbine from killing fellow students. If half the teachers had been armed, the killing would have stopped sooner, but a lower death toll would not have served the power that be as well. And by the way, I wouldn't talk about American readiness to fight tyranny. For instance my fellow compatriots were fighting and DYING in two world wars long before Americans entered the war(s). Whoo hoo! America came in WWI in the last friggin year. In WWII they had to be attacked before they could work up enough adrenalin to get up courage to fight and enter the war. Ya ya... sure sure.. you guys are ready to fight. But only when it suits you. (or rather the elite who sends you off to die) If Europe had gotten their shit together there would have not been any need for the first war. If the US didn't join in the second war Europe would have been ruled by Hitler. We had to help because the rest of the wimpy countries in Europe couldn't handle the Germans. The reason we were in Europe is simple, Roosevelt put us there, and our concentration should have been in the Pacific. The Elites have been with us a long time, WWII proves it Japan attacks us, so we send the bulk of our troops and equipment to Europe to fight the Nazi war machine, makes no sense what-so-ever. It wasn't Canada's fight either unless you consider Canada to be part of the Commonwealth. It's not like the Germans attacked us. You can expect America to do the right thing but only after they've exhausted every other possibility. ~ Winston Churchill~ I guess Churchill thought it was our duty to save England's bacon, he forgets we severed our ties with the Motherland about two and one half centuries ago and we owe England nothing at all. Churchill, actually the person in power before him let Germany gain military strength and didn't do a thing about it except whine, talk is cheap and means nothing. He should have followed his own advice and took them out while it was relatively easy. Winston Churchill: "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." And you think I believe that my cries for freedom have any effect of deaf tyrannical ears? Not in the least. I'm not naive enough to think that. I'm also not
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
On Sun, 6 Aug 2000 09:10:22 -0400 Aleisha Saba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike Smith: The Master Plan IS the bible and it is right now being used by the wrong people. translated: you are either with me or against me... call it fervor... A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: HOME PAGE (http://www.tuppersaussy.com/)
This kind of makes me wonder - How the Vatican Always Wins..what about Garibaldi and his Red Shirts - they reduced the land of the Vatica in Rome to a pittance. That Garibaldi was a freemason and with him rode Madame Helene Blavatsky - now Truman Capote when Bobby Kennedy was murdered blames the teachings of Blavatasky for the death of RFK, for little Sirhan who had a family dating back 1,000 years, and was in Rosicrucian Society, had been indoctrinated with her works.for she said a "nation can be brought to its knees and be demoralized by systematic assassination of its leaders"..so much for voodoo and dark mirror and programmed idiots under hypnotic drugs - for it is the hypnotic drugs that destroy your will and you are under control of let us say, a mentor with evil intentions. So Vatican always wins? Well I believe there was a God the day the Pope was shot and he lived and the day Reagan was shot, and he livedbut neither were really ever the same, were they Like Wallace and JFK and JFK Jr. and RFK.systematic murder of a nations leaders J Edgar Hoover is alleged to not have undersood the paranoia about murder of JFK; but look at the death of the Princess of Wales - people who once hated her, felt guilt and hence, paranoic and weeping and great mourning.. So some say we should remember as in Daniel our Presidents sometimes have feet of clay, but that Clinton - he has feet of escape artist for he has survived, torn and tattered.and all the Kings Men will not put this egghead together again..for the egg cracked from crack? So the Vatican has been fighting a battle for centuries but maybe now they see where they have been infiltrated? Tlhe Church of the Catholic is eternal - you might burn down the building, but not the faith. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Resolutions on Lesbians, Gay Men, and Bisexuals passed at UU GA 1961-present
This is long interesting item - and this Unitarian Universalist Church - it was Adlai Stevenson I believe who was gung ho on UN and was Unitarianhe died at high noon with CIA agent by his side.wife of Desmond Fitzgerald as I recall who headed up dirty tricks for CIA? So remember always, JFK was not to have been elected President in 1960 and you see this plan was laid out in advance, for remember who JFK beat out - was it not Adlai and his liberal leaing friends. Now Adlai was a gentleman, and maybe sincere but this is a whole new ball game now - no place for gentlemen for even Bush the father is going to take off his gloves...little late for that. But JFK got in by winning the votes and he beat out this CFR bunch; do you think a Catholic like JFK would push for homosexuality - he would have not condoned this stuff in the schools, for when he was killed everything turned dirty. Look how long ago this plan was drawn up but it was not drawn up for JFKthis was Adlai Stevenson crap, communist crap, to bring down a great nation.but further down in this article you see where they made demands that boy scouts admit homosexual leaders to their midstthis is communism in its rankest form, for you know this and the civil rights movement was planned by these same people - to cause a Civil War and now they try again for this war in America... So Supreme Court rules Boy Scouts make their own appointments and may exclude those who do not live up to their standards.. Little Barney Franks and his house of male prostitution? Where do you think kids learn this stuff? Now it is considered the "in thing" to do because garbage movie stars promote same on tv? Garbage is, as garbage does. So 1961 was the beginning and JFK upset their apple cart for he was not to be the Democrat Party candidate..he beat he bastards but the best laid plans of mice and men were laid out long before he was elected President for this was the NWO and CFR - and JFK and RFK and Reagan and even little John John wanted no part aof that treasonous sick bunch. So now they throw the homosexuals at us..AIDS and all - and note no discrimination against bi sexuals who bring home disease to spouse and you wonder why people who are innocent have acquired immune deficiency? Throw the bums out.and how the hell did an pervert engaged in a male prostitution ring get elected to such a high office? Welll seems maybe same reason Janet Reno put in as head of the Justice Department? I know how they play the game...they invite everybody in.those who will submit to pieces of silver This agenda was done well in advance for the likes of Adlai Stevenson Unitarian/UN advocate but this agenda would NEVER have been submitted to JFK.. Saba Resolutions on Lesbians, Gay Men, and Bisexuals passed at Unitarian Universalist General Assembly 1961-present DISCRIMINATION AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS AND BISEXUALS 1970 (GEN) RECOGNIZING THAT: 1. A significant minority in this country are either homosexual or bisexual in their feelings and/or behavior; 2. Homosexuality has been the target of severe discrimination by society and in particular by the police and other arms of government; 3. A growing number of authorities on the subject now see homosexuality as an inevitable sociological phenomenon and not as a mental illness; 4. There are Unitarian Universalists, clergy and laity, who are homosexuals or bisexuals; THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED: That the 1970 General Assembly of the Unitarian Universalist Association: 1. Urges all peoples immediately to bring an end to all discrimination against homosexuals, homosexuality, bisexuals, and bisexuality, with specific immediate attention to the following issues: a. private consensual behavior between persons over the age of consent shall be the business only of those persons and not subject to legal regulations; b. a person's sexual orientation or practice shall not be a factor in the granting or renewing of federal security clearance, visas, and the granting of citizenship or employment; 2. Calls upon the UUA and its member churches, fellowships, and organizations immediately to end all discrimination against homosexuals in employment practices, expending special effort to assist homosexuals to find employment in our midst consistent with their abilities and desires; 3. Urges all churches and fellowships, in keeping with changing social patterns, to initiate meaningful programs of sex education aimed at providing more open and healthier understanding of sexuality in all parts of the United States and Canada, and with the particular aim to end all discrimination against homosexuals and bisexuals. CREATION OF AN OFFICE ON GAY AFFAIRS 1973 (GEN) WHEREAS, it is among the purposes of the Unitarian Universalist Association to affirm, defend and promote the supreme worth of every human personality; and WHEREAS, the 1970 General Assembly passed a resolution urging all peoples
[CTRL] In the Red(iness)
Shelton tells a good part of the story BUT when we listen to Shrub and his
chosen 2nd in command, "Dick", we have to remember that it was same 2nd-in-cmd
who was the architect of the "end of the Cold War" spending plans, complete
with military spending reductions and with the result of associated reductions
in military readiness overall. After the article is a capsulised version of
the expenditures from the late 80ies through the mid 90ies (the site has ALL
the pertinent data), showing the start of the decline in spending as early as
1991. Later years' expenditures are developed based on previous years'
projections. So, what Bill Jeff actually did was follow his predecessors'
formulae (3rd Wayve stuff). Then, of course, came the 'World's Cop' role to
which Shelton is referring. AER
Via http://www.drudgereport.com/gertz.htm
Spending and resources have been cut 40 percent, while worldwide commitments
have increased 300 percent, he said.
"We are doing much more than we were doing 10 years ago, and we are doing it
with much less," he said.
}}Begin
BILL GERTZ
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Aug 05, 2000br
General says Bush wrong on readiness
President Clinton's top military adviser yesterday defended the Army against
charges that two of its divisions are not combat ready, but acknowledged the
military is facing preparedness problems.
Gen. Henry H. Shelton said following a speech in Los Angeles that all U.S. Army
divisions are set for combat.
"But that doesn't mean that everything is the way we would all like to have
it," the four-star general said to the Town Hall of Los Angeles, a public-
affairs group.
But he added that there are "some readiness shortfalls" that will not be fixed
quickly. "Once readiness starts down, you don't just turn it around overnight."
Gen. Shelton was responding to criticism leveled during the presidential-
nomination acceptance speech by Texas Gov. George W. Bush on Thursday in
Philadelphia.
"If called on by the commander in chief today, two entire divisions of the Army
would have to report: `Not ready for duty, sir.' " Mr. Bush said in his speech.
Gen. Shelton acknowledged that the divisions to which Mr. Bush referred - the
1st Infantry Division and the 10th Mountain Division - had reported last fall
that they were not ready for war.
But the Army had "jumped right on top of that" and brought them back to combat
readiness, Gen. Shelton said.
Mr. Bush stood by his criticisms yesterday in an interview on CNN.
"Last November, there was a report that said two divisions were not ready for
combat," he said. "If the Army, in fact, changes its tune from that report . .
. then they need to let the country know."
Pentagon spokesman Kenneth Bacon gave media interviews yesterday to rebut Mr.
Bush's charges, causing the Republican presidential nominee to question the
timing of any new information.
"I am amazed that they would put out a statement right after our convention,"
Mr. Bush told CNN. "I'm curious why it took them this long to say they were
combat-ready after a report last November said they weren't."
Mr. Bush also reiterated other parts of his criticisms.
"We've seen an Apache helicopter squad go to Kosovo, not ready for combat," he
said. "Recruitment goals are not being met. . . . Those who follow the military
know morale is dangerously low."
Gen. Shelton acknowledged that cuts in military budgets and personnel in the
past decade have taxed the military.
Spending and resources have been cut 40 percent, while worldwide commitments
have increased 300 percent, he said.
"We are doing much more than we were doing 10 years ago, and we are doing it
with much less," he said.
Army officials have said the not-ready designation for the two divisions grew
from each division having one brigade, up to half its troops, tied up in the
Clinton administration's "humanitarian" interventions in Bosnia-Herzegovina and
Kosovo.
In an interview with Reuters news agency, Mr. Bacon said spending on military
pay, benefits, weapons and training was now rising and morale was improving.
"We have increased military pay and benefits and increased money for arms
procurement and training," he said. "Morale is high, and the best sign of that
is that retention [of current soldiers] is going up and the recruiting problem
that we faced last year has largely been repaired."
In the past year, an Army Research Institute survey and a Center for Strategic
and International Studies study based on interviews with 12,000 military
personnel have both documented slipping morale in recent years.
End{{
From http://www.fas.org/man/docs/fy98/historical/fy98_table5-1.htm
}}Begin excerpt
Table 5.1--BUDGET AUTHORITY BY FUNCTION AND SUBFUNCTION: 1976-
2002--Continued
(in millions of dollars)
Function and Subfunction
19891990
[CTRL] Fwd: The Man Who Dropped the Bomb
Interesting story about an American Soldier. A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy A. Saba Dare To Call It Conspiracy http://www.msnbc.com/news/439358.asp
[CTRL] Buggers
From
http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/2000/08/06/stifgnaus02001.html
Truncated
}}Begin
British anarchists plot to disrupt Sydney games
Paul Ham, Sydney
THOUSANDS of anti-capitalist campaigners, including some from Britain, are
expected to travel to Australia with the aim of disrupting the Olympic Games
next month.
Surveillance of websites and e-mails has uncovered plans to block entry to the
Olympic stadium, disrupt competition with sit-ins and ambush the wives of
corporate bosses attending the games. McDonald's, Coca-Cola and other Olympic
sponsors have been warned that they may be targeted for attack.
Snipped
The office of the New South Wales director of public prosecutions said the
temporary measures were essential. "A lot of overseas people are going to be
causing all sorts of problems," a spokesman said.
"We're preparing just in case. You've got to keep the buggers under control."
End{{
AER
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The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
The libertarian therefore considers one of his prime educational
tasks is to spread the demystification and desanctification of the
State among its hapless subjects. His task is to demonstrate
repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the
"democratic" State has no clothes; that all governments subsist
by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse
of objective necessity. He strives to show that the existence of
taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between
the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled. He seeks to show that
the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State
has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to
accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a
share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded
subjects.
[[For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto, Murray N. Rothbard,
Fox Wilkes, 1973, 1978, p. 25]]
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From
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/UK/Health/2000-08/bug060800.shtml
}}Begin
news | UK | Health
Lethal superbug at large in Britain
By Mark Gould
6 August 2000
A drug-resistant superbug which last year killed more than 5,000 hospital
patients has "escaped" into the community and is believed to be infecting
thousands of people.
Hospitals this week will start a £31m campaign to improve hygiene in an attempt
to curb the spread of methicillinresistant staphylococcus (MRSA), which last
year cost the NHS more than £1bn to treat. Last night, however, a government
microbiologist, Dr Peder Nielsen, told the Independent on Sunday that MRSA was
now at large outside hospitals.
Dr Nielsen, who is director of the Peterborough branch of the Public Health
Service Laboratory, and a consultant microbiologist at Peterborough Hospitals
trust, said 54 per cent of all new cases of MRSA were being picked up by GPs.
He said there was now a "reservoir of infection" in the community that was "a
threat to hospitals".
MRSA eats into the flesh of wounds or enters the body via medical equipment
such as drips and catheters. In many cases surgery is required to remove
infected tissue. The disease struck at least 10,100 people in the UK last year
and killed more than 5,000.
Excessive use of antibiotics has led to the rise of MRSA, so named because of
its resistance to methicillin. The bug is now impervious to a range of
antibiotics and can only be treated with powerful lastline-of-defence drugs.
Cases in the Peterborough area rose from five in 1994 to 135 in 1998, according
to Dr Nielsen. A quarter of these cases were in nursing homes where large
groups of elderly people were grouped together. The remaining 75 per cent of
cases were scattered across all ages and all parts of the community.
Although his study is Peterborough-based, Dr Nielsen said he had "no doubt
whatsoever" that his findings would be replicated across the UK.
Dr Chris Butler, senior lecturer in general practice at the University of Wales
College of Medicine, who is an expert in community infection, said the results
were "another little bit of evidence that we are sitting on a timebomb".
Dr Butler said that both patients and doctors needed to use antibiotics
sensibly. "Evidence shows that 80 per cent of antibiotics are prescribed in GP
surgeries and that half of these prescriptions are unnecessary," he said.
In the UK, Dr Nielsen said, the rise in MRSA in the community was a result of
faster hospital discharge, home care for cancer patients, and home kidney
dialysis. GPs were also now more aware of the disease.
However, Dr Barry Cookson, of the Central Public Health Laboratory, said: "It
is not a great risk to healthy people and simple hygiene procedures such as
proper handwashing can keep it at bay."
In the USA, MRSA has claimed the lives of four children in the past 18 months.
Two of these lived in rural American Indian communities and two were white
children from big cities. None of the victims had been in contact with
hospitals.
The Centre for Disease Control in Atlanta subsequently checked 112 patients
with infections and found that more than half had MRSA. Only a quarter of the
MRSA patients had been in hospital or long-term care.
American experts do not know how the children were infected. One theory is that
the bacteria mutated into a form that can lie dormant in the community and
attack vulnerable people opportunistically.
Dr Nielsen will publish his findings in the British Medical Journal in the
autumn.
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AER
Integrity has no need of rules. -Albert Camus (1913-1960)
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking
new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust
The libertarian therefore considers one of his prime educational
tasks is to spread the demystification and desanctification of the
State among its hapless subjects. His task is to demonstrate
repeatedly and in depth that not only the emperor but even the
"democratic" State has no clothes; that all governments subsist
by exploitive rule over the public; and that such rule is the reverse
of objective necessity. He strives to show that the existence of
taxation and the State necessarily sets up a class division between
the exploiting rulers and the exploited ruled. He seeks to show that
the task of the court intellectuals who have always supported the State
has ever been to weave mystification in order to induce the public to
accept State rule and that these intellectuals obtain, in return, a
share in the power and pelf extracted by the rulers from their deluded
subjects.
[[For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto, Murray N. Rothbard,
Fox Wilkes, 1973, 1978, p. 25]]
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Re: [CTRL] Dems Have a Problem With a Jewish Vice President - Hypocrites
``Joe Lieberman would be a bold and courageous choice,'' Rendell said, calling the Connecticut Democrat ``maybe the finest person in politics'' Ha! Not to me and a goodly number of my fellow Nutmeggers, who have had years to experience his self-serving partisanship... :-7 June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Dems Have a Problem With a Jewish Vice President - Hypocrites
From: "Aleisha Saba" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lieberman was elected in Connecticut - so their is no religious test for running for public office, only if the character or activities of an individual are questionable. No, we here in the Constitution State do not require a religious test of our elected officials; we get the best representatives money can buy... :-7 Well maybe Lieberman has just a little too much integrity The use of the words "Lieberman" and "integrity" in the same sentence would make me laugh, if it didn't first make me sick to my stomach... seems to me that Lieberman ran as a man, and not a jew and was elected on his qualifications? Lieberman ran as a brown-nosing flunky, willing to kiss up to his masters no matter what. the snow birds - guess Lieberman would rather fly with the eagles? He flies with the buzzards. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Brown Brothers Harriman and Union Pacific Railroad
Researcher Anton Chaitkin, the son of a Jewish attorney (Joseph Chaitkin) whose clients had invested in bonds issued by the Hamburg-Amerika Line, which had taken over the North German Lloyd steamship line. After Hitler came to power, Hamburg-Amerika stopped payment to the bondholders based on an order issued by Hitler, but actually arranged by John Foster Dulles and his friend Hjalmar Schacht, a German who had grown up in the U.S. and been educated alongside America's elite sons, but who returned to Germany to be Hitler's finance minister. Joseph Chaitkin filed suit in New York in 1934 on behalf of his clients and organized a boycott against trading with the new German government. His efforts were stifled by a number of investment bankers operating in the United States, ostensibly American patriots, but later accused of traders with the enemy. The research conducted by Anton Chaitkin into the coverup that ensued has been thoroughly documented in the book he wrote with Webster Tarpley called The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush. I have never been one who believes anything I read without investigation. After reading the book, I asked myself: "What is the best way to actually remove the veil that preserves the secrecy around the investments managed by the investment bank of Brown Brothers Harriman?" Is there anything I can do to find out what the real truth is? After learning of this alleged conspiracy which took place between the two world wars, and which was continued after World War II by the rise to power of both Dulles brothers and their creation of the Central Intelligence Agency, it seemed that the only way to learn the truth about whether the same thing that Harriman and Bush were accused of at that time is continuing today is to follow the advice of the secretive "Deep Throat" and "follow the money." Thanks to the internet, all of us can do the same thing in the privacy of our own homes and offices. A few years ago I downloaded a list of all the partners of Brown Brothers Harriman Co. from a university computer. Recently I have been taking each name and running it through the recorded filings which are accessible through the SEC Edgar sites on the internet. Let's take one of those names and explore what we find. It's an historical name passed down through the generations--Elbridge T. Gerry--a family name which was around even before E.H. Harriman became a household word. The first Elbridge T. Gerry (a merchant shipper) was a signer of the Declaration of Independence and took a seat at the Continental Congress in 1776, served until 1785, and then retired to Cambridge, Mass. He was elected governor of Massachusetts in 1810 and, in 1813, was elected as James Madison's vice-president, though he died a year later. He had three sons and four daughters. (see http://www.jmu.edu/madison/gerry.htm ). His grandson "Commodore" Elbridge Thomas Gerry, 1837-1927, was a reformer. A position as legal advisor to the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals led to his founding (1875), with the help of Henry Bergh, the New York Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children (sometimes called the Gerry Society). He devoted most of his life to this cause, which became national in scope. He and his wife, Louisa M. Gerry had two sons named after wealthy New Yorkers, Peter Goelet and Robert Livingston, and two daughters, Angelica and Francis. (see http://www.scripophily.net/scripophily/masvotbil.html ) Robert Livingston Gerry married Cornelia Harriman (daughter of railroad tycoon E.H. Harriman) in March 1908, and in 1912 built an estate, known as Aknusti on their 2,000 acre property in Delaware County, New York. They had four sons - Elbridge T., Robert L., and twins Henry and Edward. (see http://www.hartwick.edu/library/archives/gerry/moreinfo.html ) In 1939 their son, Edward H. Gerry, married Martha Botts Farish -- the daughter of William Stamps Farish, founder of Humble Oil in Houston. Cornelia Harriman was the sister of Averill. Edward's brother Elbridge, the eldest, born in 1908, held general partnerships in the banking firms Brown Brothers Harriman Company, and Gerry Brothers Company, and was a well-known philanthropist, notable polo player, avid participant in harness racing, and breeder of champion horse racers. In 1932 he married Marjorie Kane, daughter of John P. Kane. They had two sons, Elbridge T. Jr. and Peter G. II, and a daughter Marjorie. Elbridge Gerry, Sr. died February 26, 1999. Elbridge T. Jr. has assumed the role as partner in the Brown Brothers Harriman Co. limited partnership. The Edward Gerrys had four children including Mrs. Cornelia Corbett (owner of American Soccer League team--Tampa Bay Rowdies) [note #1 below] and William F. Gerry, and have been heavily involved in horse-breeding. The Farish family genealogy shows that the family came to Virginia from Cumberland, England shortly after 1700, relocating to Mississippi a few generations
[CTRL] TOXIC WARFARE AGAINST HUMANITY - NETWORK FOR 17 AUGUST
THIS WAS ON THE NET BACK IN 1999 !!! Subject: U.S. Military Conducting TOXIC Biological-Chemical Warfare Against Civilians For the past 3 weeks I have been receiving first hand reports of U.S. Military jets spraying toxic substances over populate urban areas testing the effectiveness of their biological and chemical warfare, protective warfare and monitoring equipment. The substances are supposedly "harmless" simulates which have extremely toxic effects of their own. To date [some time in 1999], literally thousands of civilians have been made very sick mostly with respiratory illnesses, distress and even scores of deaths. A MOUNTAIN OF EVIDENCE SUGGESTS THOSE WHO WOULD BE OUR MASTERS ARE TIRED OF PRETENDING THAT WE ARE FREE In the last two months, there have been changes in the spraying program that everyone should be aware of. First, the intensity and frequency of spraying, which I believe is the NSA/CIA project SAMSON, has increased rather dramatically in those areas you would think of as hot spots. As a personal example, we had been hit twice the week before in the county north of Houston, and on the day before Christmas Eve we were literally plastered from dawn to dusk. Christmas Day included the massive spraying of Houston's western areas and the following day, Sunday, was marked by an equally massive spraying of the city's southern extensions almost a third of the way to Galveston on the Gulf coast. Second, the periodic testing of spray effectiveness by disseminating lab-modified micro-organisms has shifted to a nastier phase. Still generally confined to various types of "flu-like" symptoms, the effects seem more incapacitating. They are both more severe and longer lasting. Reports from southern California and Nevada are examples of recent "outbreaks". I sense a change here, that suggests a shift from measuring the effectiveness of the spraying program, to more serious testing of the particular bugs that may be used to suppress or immobilize populations as needed. Unfortunately, I'm quite confident that there is much nastier stuff available than what we've seen so far. Remember that although most people recover from these things, there is a significant mortality rate among the elderly, the very young, and those with challenged immune systems. This number was already over 10,000 in April [1999]. If and when the world ever returns to normal, everyone involved in this program from top to bottom should be hung for murder, after a fair trail or reasonable facsimile. If the program continues in the direction that seems likely, mortality rates may go much higher. I cannot help but remember the reporting last spring of a federal purchase order for three million body bags which no one was willing to deny or even discuss. This suggests the best possible plan for individuals is do whatever it takes to boost their immune systems, and consider protective measures such as the "surgical masks" with a filtration rating of P95 or higher if they don't already have something more substantial. Third, and finally, the spraying program is shifting away from jet fuel as the liquid "carrier" for whatever they want to spray. Jet fuel greatly simplified the entire logistic picture for the program. It is perfectly normal for refuelling tankers to load it, it is available everywhere, and you pay for it with an anonymous government credit card. And, of course, the Ethylene Dibromide is already included as an additive at no extra charge. In August, however, we began observing the occasional visit of a tanker that had apparently loaded up with water. This is essentially the same plane you are used to seeing, flying at the same low altitude, with the same spray plume boiling out from tail or twin plumes that bow outward around the aircraft before they come together again a short distance back. The only difference is that while the spray widens out and looks like it might form the typical chemtrail, it simply vanishes a mile or two behind the aircraft. To those who have never observed the usual spraying, the only thing they will notice is that the sprayed material dissipates so, unless they realize this guy needs to be four miles higher to freeze jet exhaust, they will assume it is a normal contrail. In fact, the new spray is dramatically more visible to the naked eye. Sunlight from the side lights it up like a roman candle. If he's up there and you are looking - you absolutely can't miss it. It is possible that the tanker is spraying straight Ethylene Dibromide as a liquid. Although this pesticide was totally banned, it is now available by the ton since it became a jet fuel additive. My allergy response is the same, but I can't help but worry that there is something new there that I'm not detecting. Something to accelerate the process? We've often seem one of these guys show up at the end of a spray day, when they are really spectacular in the rays of the setting sun. It seemed most likely
[CTRL] (en) Czech, Symbolic protest targets IMF meeting in Prague - The Fore-Act...
In a message dated 00-08-06 15:31:33 EDT, you write: A - I N F O S N E W S S E R V I C E http://www.ainfos.ca/ PRAGUE, Aug 2 (AFP) - Anti-globalization activists staged a symbolic protest Wednesday against the annual meeting of the International Monetary Fund and World Bank scheduled in Prague next month. A football match on the Old Town Square in the heart of the Czech capital pitted three "global" players -- dressed up as McDonalds, Shell and Phillip Morris -- against a worker, a farmer and a woman. With the help of a referee representing the IMF and World Bank, the three global giants easily won. The protest was the first in a series planned by the Initiative Against Economomic Globalization (INPEG) in the run-up to the September 21-29 meetings in the Czech capitals. Some 15-20,000 demonstrators are expected to descend on the Czech capital for the IMF/World Bank meetings. Some 11,000 police equipped with riot gear are to be deployed in September to protect the thousands of ministers, bank chiefs and top officials from dozens of countries attending the Prague meeting. The campaign, entitled "Fifty-five years of oppression by the International Monetary Fund and the World Bank is enough," will organize protests every 10 days or so, said spokeswoman Alice Dvorska. She said the symbolic football match reflects the way financial institutions "favor profits for multinationals to the detriment of people and the environment." A number of foreign activists are already in Prague coordinating protest action, according to organizers. ~~~ UNITE For Global Justice! UNITE Against the IMF and the World Bank! ** The A-Infos News Service ** News about and of interest to anarchists ** COMMANDS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] REPLIES: [EMAIL PROTECTED] HELP: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.ainfos.ca/ INFO: http://www.ainfos.ca/org -To receive a-infos in one language only mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] the message: unsubscribe a-infos subscribe a-infos-X where X = en, ca, de, fr, etc. (i.e. the language code) /XMP __ EcoNews Service - Alternative News: Ecology, Consciousness Universe Politics mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/index2.html CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/index2.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] [surfingtheapocalypse] Now Counting Five Solar Systems With Planets
In a message dated 00-08-06 21:50:25 EDT, you write: Now Counting Five Solar Systems With Planets http://www.farshore.force9.co.uk/n_plan02.htm [Original headline: New planets speed up search for alien life] Earth and its fellow planets are not alone. Astronomers have found solar systems around five other stars - and believe that they are on the verge of finding many more. The discovery is based on a survey of 1,100 stars, a tiny fraction of those visible from Earth, suggesting that many others will also be found to have planetary systems. The news - to be announced in Manchester tomorrow at the International Astronomical Union's conference on extra-solar planetary systems - will delight the growing band of scientists who believe life will one day be found on other planets. Andrew Collier Cameron, an astronomer at the University of St Andrews, whose team last year detected light directly from an extra-solar planet, said the discovery of new planetary systems was a landmark. "We have found lots of single planets but theory predicts that once one has formed, it should destabilise other rubble orbiting a star. This would prompt the formation of more planets - so finding multi-planet systems confirms our vision of how solar systems form." The latest research was done by Debra Fischer at the University of California, Berkeley, who studied 12 of the 44 stars already known to have orbiting planets. In each system the planet was a large gas giant similar to Jupiter and hundreds of times bigger than Earth. All the planets had elliptical orbits that tugged their parent stars back and forth, changing the quality of the light they emitted. She found, however, that five stars, including 55 Cancri and HD 38529, showed further fluctuations whose most likely cause was the pull from a second planet. The research will be presented by Geoffrey Marcy, professor of astronomy at UC Berkeley, and Paul Butler, an astronomer at the Carnegie Institution of Washington, who will also announce the discovery of three new stars with extrasolar planets. The conference will also hear of attempts to analyse the atmosphere around another planet. David Charbonneau, of the Harvard-Smithsonian Centre for Astrophysics, has made an intensive study of a star known as HD 209458, which has a massive planet whose orbit, viewed from Earth, takes it across the face of its star. Some of the light from the star should, in theory, be altered by passing through the planet's atmosphere. The planet is highly hostile to life, with a surface temperature estimated at 1,200C and an atmosphere probably comprising hydrogen and gaseous sodium. However, showing such analysis can work would pave the way for detecting oxygen and carbon dioxide - the signs of life - on other planets. Story originally published in The Sunday Times / London | By Jonathan Leake - August 6 2000 e|- Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Apply NOW! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Enjoy a half minute of relaxation 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Ongoing APR and no annual fee! A HREF="http://click.egroups.com/1/7876/12/_/815724/_/965612993/"Click Here!/A |e- SURFING THE APOCALYPSE http://www.surfingtheapocalypse.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ EcoNews Service - Alternative News: Ecology, Consciousness Universe Politics mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] USA http://www.earthradioTV.com/index2.html CZECH http://mujweb.cz/www/ecologynews/ UK http://members.tripod.co.uk/ecologynews/ Canada http://www.ecologynews.com/index2.html A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy
[CTRL] Hillary's Low Friends in High Places
.. From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]: From: "Alex Constantine" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Kris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Lloyd" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Hillary's Low Friends in High Places Date: Saturday, July 29, 2000 7:17 PM Village Voice July 26 - August 1, 2000 Sex Slaves! (and Other Tales From Hillary¹s Campaign Finance Report) Low Friends in High Places by Ward Harkavy Like a Norma Rae, U.S. Senate candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton captured the official support of the New York State AFL-CIO last week. But like the first lady of Wal-Mart that she actually is, Clinton has close ties to anti-labor forces, according to her newly released campaign-finance report. But there's something for everybodyincluding privacy advocates and those battling racial discriminationto dislike in a campaign that raised $4.8 million in just the past three months while spending $5.5 million. And her enemies in the vast right-wing conspiracy will be happy to find out that her contributors include a former United States senator linked to a current Arkansas scandal involving purported Chinese sex slaves. Here are some lowlights from Clinton's July 15 quarterly report. The Senator Who Won't Leave David Pryor, a longtime buddy of the Clintons and former senator and Arkansas governor, hasn't been a member of Congress since 1996, but he's still doling out campaign contributions from his David Pryor for U.S. Senate Committee. On May 8, his committee gave $1000 to Hillary's campaignthe day after yet another ex-senator from Arkansas, Dale Bumpers, also gave Hillary $1000. But that's probably the last thing on Pryor's mind now. David J. Jones, a former Arkansas TV mogul, is on trial in federal court in Little Rock for allegedly importing Chinese women for sexual purposes while rounding up favorable treatment for them from immigration officials and other people in government. The indictment doesn't name the "public officials" who wrote letters for Jones or offered other aid, according to a recent story in the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette. However, the paper reports that court documents have named Pryor, who calls Jones a good friend, as an official from whom Jones sought help in 1992, and Pryor has told reporters that he may be called as a witness. As if that's not enough to keep the pensioned ex-senator scrambling, Pryor founded the Clinton Legal Expense Trust, which has retired "more than half" of the first family's $11 million legal debt, according to news reports. And he's a trustee of the Clinton Presidential Library, a Little Rock project that has sparked jeers and protests over its secretive funding and free use of public land. All of which will give Pryor plenty to talk about starting next month, when he takes over as director of the Institute of Politics at the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard. He was a fellow in the program last year but dropped out in midsemester. Pryor told the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in April that he hopes his new job will enable him to help combat some of the cynicism about politicians' thirst for power and personal gain that causes young people to drop out of the political system. "If I can have even a very, very minor role in helping reverse that trend, I think that's what it's all about," he said. Look for Pryor to have a very, very minor role in reversing that trend. Labor Pains The infamous Dr. Allan Zarkin carved his initials on the belly of an obstetrics patient at Beth Israel Medical Center, and the hospital was fined $14,000 by state health officials, but patients and workers at Beth Israel have reason to worry about other slashes. Last month, officials of Continuum Health Partners, owner of Beth Israel and of St. Luke's in Harlem, pleaded poverty and announced layoffs. Newspaper reports said the cuts, strongly protested by Local 1199 workers, likely will have the most impact on obstetrical services for the poor. Luckily, Continuum had enough money to ship $2000 to Hillary Clinton's campaign on May 2. The Prying Game Hillary Clinton, who has so far rarely granted interviews in the Senate race and has stoutly defended her family's privacy, would face some tough decisions in Congress regarding the ever increasing electronic snooping into Americans' business by private companies collecting data. But as a former board member of Wal-Mart and hobnobber with corporate types, she's already friendly with Acxiom Corporation, referred to recently as "the largest data-mining company in America." Its executives have been heavy supporters of Democrats, including Bill Clinton. Acxiom, based in Little Rock, does nearly $1 billion worth of business a year by performing such tasks as purchasing information about unwitting consumers and selling it to debt collectors and other businesses. Last month, however, the Federal Trade Commission issued regulations cracking down on the trade in such data. "Congress simply
Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE
Greetings: i have also been trying to get information on this case. I would also appreciate any information that could help me with this case. Fred A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] New Book by David Shippers
http://members.aol.com/allanf8702/page1.htm = Kadosh, Kadosh, Kadosh, YHVH, TZEVAOT FROM THE DESK OF:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Mike Spitzer* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Best Way To Destroy Enemies Is To Change Them To Friends Shalom, A Salaam Aleikum, and to all, A Good Day. = A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] THE TED.GUNDERSON DATA DUMP!
THE TEDhttp://www.newsmakingnews.com/gunderson.htm THE TED (EX? FBI AGENT?) GUNDERSON DATA DUMP! Who is this "former" FBI agent who shows up every time a woman and her children are in peril because of Satanists or child molesters? And has Gunderson ever provided professional investigative services which assisted a prosecutor to convict a pedophile, drug dealer or con artist of a crime after trial by jury? WHO IS THIS TED GUNDERSON, WHO FRAMED, TRIED AND SENTENCED, ART BELL WITHOUT A TRIAL! ART BELL RETIRES! BUT BELL HAS SUED GUNDERSON? STAY TUNED! On April 1st, 2000, in the second hour of his talk radio program hearing by 15 million fans, Art Bell announced his retirement from radio broadcasting. Art Bell's announcement: In order that you all understand the gravity of the announcement I'm about to make, it's going to be necessary for me to repeat some very painful events that have occurred to my family over the past several years. On May 16th of the year 1997, my son, Art Bell IV, was kidnapped, transported across state lines and raped by a substitute teacher from his own high school. The assailant was HIV positive. My son was a minor. He was only 16 years old at the time. The teacher involved was tried, convicted and is now serving a life sentence. My son though, as you might imagine, was sent into a psychological tailspin which continues to this very day. We are trying very very hard to help him recover and lead a more normal life. Some positive events have occurred toward that end and your prayers are welcome. Please keep them coming. While the police work and the trial of my son's assailant were underway, difficult as it was for me to continue my daily radio programs, I did so. Because my son was a minor at the time of the crime, the records were sealed, his name was not made public, something our society does to protect its own, its future, its young people. As our family was working through this trauma in private, an event beyond all bounds of decency and humanity occurred. On December 9th of 1997, just a few months after my son's ordeal, my own began. Ted Gunderson, a retired FBI agent, along with David Hinkson and the assistance of others, aired a broadcast which - incredibly, absolutely incredibly - accused me of committing the very same crime my son had suffered, child molestation. The program further stated that I had paid to cover up an indictment in Nye County, Nevada, my home. It further urged listeners to call me "on air" and ask if I had been indicted. Of course, these accusations were entirely false. But, never the less the calls poured into my open line unscreened program, asking if this was true. I had no choice but to block out all these calls and keep my silence for fear of my son's situation becoming public. This broadcast was made on WWCR, world wide short-wave radio, in Nashville, Tennessee. This station has been described by newspapers and civic minded organizations as one of the country's leading broadcasters of hate radio. The individuals, WWCR and its sister-station WNQM, In addition to broadcasting these proponents of hate and violence, this radio station has consciously decided not to spend money on a delay switch, not to conduct a careful background check of the people it places on the air and to allow individuals to say almost anything they want in foreign languages without having staff on duty who can even understand what they are saying. In my opinion, WWCR is one of the most irresponsible stations permitted to broadcast over the airwaves of this country. Now the fallout from that broadcast has been unbelievable. Besides the unrelenting accusatory calls, others repeated this false rumor as though it was fact, resulting in several related lawsuits. Many of you may have heard my defense played out on the airwaves and the Internet. No matter how hard I have tried to set the record straight, my torment and that of my family continues. Recently, a radio host in Toronto, Canada opened his morning show with the words "I am Art Bell and I molest little children". All of this sent me into a psychological tailspin. I felt I had been dealt a blow I might not recover from. Still I continued my nightly broadcasts as best I could. In October of 1998, my son came to a crisis point, a situation so critical that nothing but my full-time attention would help. So, on that fateful day, October 13th of 1998, I resigned on air with no intention of returning. But thanks to the efforts of my network, my best friend Alan Corbeth, Kraig Kitchin (CEO of Premiere Networks) and Randy Micheals [CEO of Clear Channel], I was able to return, but the pressure of having to defend myself against baseless, vile claims that I was a child molester eventually forced me to reduce my on air hours. Why the individuals behind the December 9, 1997 broadcast by WWCR decided to make such a patently false and harmful broadcast remains for the courts to decide. A major moment in
Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE
I have been trying to get the information on this case from the web sight and cannot do it. Any suggestions? It's not on that website. That website has radiation testing equipment. Frankly, I don't where to find out the truth behind this story short of doing on site, in person, gum shoe work. Volunteers? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] From Bad to Worse
[EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: There can only be one version of the truth. Is light a wave or a particle? A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bandwidth hogging
It's a conspiracy?!?!?! -Original Message- From: Conspiracy Theory Research List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ynr Chyldz Wyld Sent: Saturday, August 05, 2000 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [CTRL] Bandwidth hogging From: "Ben Stone" [EMAIL PROTECTED] I remember the bad old days before the 100 a day posting limit, when there were one or more provocateurs who posted dozens of messages from a white-power perspective, then when they were criticised posted hundreds more defending themselves and abusing the idiots who insisted on posting smart-alec one line replies. I believe when the 100 a day limit was brought in a 10 post per subscriber per day was also brought in. Maybe this should be re-instituted? It is still in effect, altho it's a 7-per-day limit, not 10. It's just that Spitzer has been granted the right to post unlimited number of posts per day, which isn't fair to the rest of us. No one would bitch if he'd send perhaps 10 to 15, but my God the other day I had to delete almost 50 of them from him... Just some thoughts from someone who recently rejoined the list after about 2 years away. Then you wouldn't know that we just went through this same thing about 2 months ago, with a promise that it wouldn't happen again...ha! BTW maybe Kris Millegan could take some criticism in this respect? Out of all the stuff (he/she?) posts, much of it my browser won't let me read becasue it has attachments While I have the ability to read it, I don't, because as a matter of principal I don't read email attachments because of the chance they contain a virus. and a lot of it could be condensed into one page with a bunch of links and maybe a short description. A very good suggestion. June A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] DEAD MAN RADIOACTIVE
nessie writes: Speaking of radiometers, check out: http://www.wps.com/archives/radiacs/index.html FWIW, Tom Jennings of WPS.com is the same Tom Jennings who wrote FIDOnet. A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/"www.ctrl.org/A DECLARATION DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substancenot soap-boxingplease! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright fraudsis used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html"Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]/A http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/"ctrl/A To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
