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At 12:47 PM 12/6/00 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
You're thinking of something else,
but you're close enough. For instance,
there are laws in most jurisdictions about requiring a social
security
number to open a bank account, for any of a number of reasons
including
credit checks, and checks on
At 9:40 AM -0500 12/15/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim May wrote:
In a free society, free economy, then employers and employees are
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At 10:23 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, Tim May wrote:
April 1st is many months off, so why this?
:-).
Let's see now, you're about the third or fourth person to note the same
think (Stewart, Broiles, for example), on this very thread. The first
being, of course, Perry...
Yes, I'd heard about the
At 11:13 PM -0800 12/14/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 10:23 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, Tim May wrote:
April 1st is many months off, so why this?
:-).
Let's see now, you're about the third or fourth person to note the same
think (Stewart, Broiles, for example), on this very thread. The first
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to be told
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At 11:59 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, Tim May wrote:
"Fuck off."
There you go again. :-).
Nonetheless, after 6 1/2 years, it does feel like it's time for me move
on, and it seems quite appropriate for me to go out the same way I came
in: with Tim yelling. ;-).
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Title: RE: Perry's Paint Fable comes to mind...
Doesn't appear to defeat security envelopes either, which have been around for quite some time.
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At 12:03 PM -0800 on 12/14/00, gary seven wrote:
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At 3:50 AM -0800 12/14/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 11:35 PM -0600 on 12/13/00, by way of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
FOR ALL TO SEE
It's a spray which renders sealed envelopes transparent, making the
letters inside as easy to read as postcards. "It leaves an odour for 10
to 15 minutes,"
-- Forwarded Message --
Date: Thursday, December 14, 2000 3:42 AM -0800
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: U.S. Supreme Court vs. Voting Technology
List:
In its ruling on the Florida election, the U.S. Supreme Court effectively
issued a challenge
hi
On Thu, Dec 14, 2000 at 03:50:55AM -0800, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
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At 11:35 PM -0600 on 12/13/00, by way of [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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It's a spray which renders sealed envelopes transparent, making the
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Robert Guerra forwards:
-- Forwarded Message --
From: Ed Gerck [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: U.S. Supreme Court vs. Voting Technology
[snip]
Just an FYI. I was checking this out when I noticed via
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www.safevote.com
On Thu, 14 Dec 2000, Gil Hamilton wrote:
are all apparently self-promotional mouthpieces for this Gerck
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crypto/security lists from time to time, usually with somewhat
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Tim May wrote:
Someone could make a little Perl or Python script to let the
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Tim May wrote:
At 7:42 PM + 12/12/00, Ben Laurie wrote:
Sampo A Syreeni wrote:
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it" and that is precisely the meaning in general relativity.
No
Here you go:
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At 10:08 12/12/2000 -0800, Tim May wrote:
With all of the talk recently of recursively-settled agoric market spaces,
multidimensional geodesic actor systems, and other jargon-heavy
marketbuzz, I've made up a little table
I've got an idea! How about one that would make text look like it was
spoken by a Canadian!?!
-Declan
At 16:25 12/12/2000 -0500, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 4:04 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
http://www.mccullagh.org/cgi-bin/jargonizer.cgi
Great.
Now all we need is one of
At 4:04 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
http://www.mccullagh.org/cgi-bin/jargonizer.cgi
Great.
Now all we need is one of those translators, like the one that turns text
into something the Muppet's Swedish Chef would say...
:-).
Cheers,
RAH
--
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At 4:29 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I've got an idea! How about one that would make text look like it was
spoken by a Canadian!?!
:-).
Ooo! Oooo! A canadian *cryptographer*!!!
SouthPark-KylesMom Bomb Canada.../S-K
(Yes, I get the joke, and consider myself properly
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
I've got an idea! How about one that would make text look like it was
spoken by a Canadian!?!
Better yet -- John Young. ]:
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At 14:02 12/12/2000 -0800, Alan Olsen wrote:
Better yet -- John Young. ]:
Modern computer science has not advanced sufficiently to accomplish such a
feat. :)
-Declan
At 4:43 PM -0500 on 12/12/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
(Yes, I get the joke, and consider myself properly spanked. I'll go see
*myself* how the Swedish Chef thing works. It can't be that hard, right?)
As Senior Wences(sp?) used to say, "Eeesy for jou to say, for me, ees
deeficult!)
Okay, so it
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At 04:04 PM 12/12/00 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote:
Here you go:
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Nifty hack, Declan!
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In article 001c01c062e0$5db95fc0$0100a8c0@golem, "Me"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i dont see why any of these methods are inherently
better/safer/more accurate than those used in florida.
Counting a "X"'s I would think is easier than counting
At 1:32 AM -0500 12/11/00, Declan McCullagh wrote:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 05:12:23PM -0800, Steve Schear wrote:
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At 9:48 PM + on 12/11/00, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it"
Thank you. It works in all dimensions, and, thus it's topological, right?
Cheers,
RAH
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The
At 5:56 PM -0500 12/11/00, R. A. Hettinga wrote:
At 9:48 PM + on 12/11/00, Ben Laurie wrote:
Chambers defines geodesic as "the shortest line on a surface between two
points on it"
Thank you. It works in all dimensions, and, thus it's topological, right?
Topology is typically not
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On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
From: "Kent Snyder-The Liberty Committee"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. IT IS A REPUBLIC. THE ELECTORAL
A republic is a form of democracy, a representative one.
No, it isn't.
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On Wed, 6 Dec 2000, Russ K wrote:
Maybe not, but the tools used to remove the barrel/s can be traced by teeth
marks and other metal to metal contact.
So the moral of the story is...
If you want to destroy the potential barrel you'll need to:
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Robert,
With respect, you're joking, right?
The current system is flawed, true, but an Internet voting system
would likely suffer from far more serious security, authentication,
and fraud problems. This is a recurring topic of discussion in
cryptographic and computer-risks circles. Do some web
Declan:
I completely agree with you that internet voting isn't quite ready fom
prime-time just yet. But given the current snafu I highly suspect that
there will be a lot of interest in the field.
Certainly, I hope one of the few things the new congress will be able to do
is set-up a
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Ray Dillinger wrote:
(RAH might have called it a geodesic political culture if he hadn't got
this strange Marxist idea that politics is just an emergent property of
economics :-)
Just by the way, how widespread is this use of the word 'geodesic'?
Not very, I think. It seems
On Fri, 8 Dec 2000, Carol A Braddock wrote:
So say you -could- estimate a fractal dimension for the internet. What would
the number be good for?
If it could be shown that a consistent estimate exists and it was
calculated, it would probably affect the scaling properties of the Net -
after all,
- Original Message -
From: "Robert Guerra" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
personally, if I had a say I'd say they should adopt the
same system Canada uses. They use a 100 year old
system, had few if any recounts, and managed
to count all thier manual ballots in less than 72 hours.
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Hello to everyone. I'm Alexis and as I'm new to cryptography I
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At 2:27 PM -0800 12/10/00, petro wrote:
Mr. May:
The author also mentions that consumers dislike (so?) tracking of
their purchases...and then in the next paragraphs cites the
Firestone tire recall as an example of better policy than most Web
sites have (or something like this...I re-read his
At 2:06 PM -0800 on 12/10/00, petro wrote:
RAH whinged
...and in error. My apologies.
Cheers,
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At 5:24 PM -0600 12/10/00, Allen Ethridge wrote:
On 11/30/00 at 1:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tim May) wrote:
So, you might say, "it works." Nope. Problems:
1. I ain't gonna read messages that require me to launch my word
processor. Mail shouldn't need external word processors or text
At 6:18 PM +0200 12/10/00, FRANKY wrote:
Hello to everyone. I'm Alexis and as I'm new to cryptography I
would appreciate a piece of advice. I've read the book "Applied
Cryptography" by Bruce Schneier and I also have the "ICSA Guide
to cryptography". However I would like to know where
On Sun, 10 Dec 2000, FRANKY wrote:
to cryptography". However I would like to know where could I find more
books related to cryptography.
amazon.com is one place. see also
http://www.cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/hac/
for an online copy of the Handbook of Applied Cryptography.
secure one system
At 03:26 AM 12/10/00 -0800, petro wrote:
On Thu, 7 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote:
From: "Kent Snyder-The Liberty Committee"
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
THE UNITED STATES IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. IT IS A REPUBLIC. THE ELECTORAL
A republic is a form of democracy, a representative one.
No,
At 2:27 PM -0800 12/10/00, petro wrote:
Mr. May:
The author also mentions that consumers dislike (so?) tracking of
their purchases...and then in the next paragraphs cites the
Firestone tire recall as an example of better policy than most Web
sites have (or something like this...I re-read his
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 04:46:05PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Fact is, PGP and SMIME went the _wrong_ direction when message
signings started to require RTF, MIME, HTML, etc. (I realize
these
are not all the same thing. The real issue is "non-ASCII.")
Apparently, Eudora didn't manage to
At 2:19 AM + 12/11/00, Anonymous wrote:
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 04:46:05PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
Fact is, PGP and SMIME went the _wrong_ direction when message
signings started to require RTF, MIME, HTML, etc. (I realize
these
are not all the same thing. The real issue is
In article 001c01c062e0$5db95fc0$0100a8c0@golem, "Me"
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
is there any benefit to the 'canadian system' above it's lack of
lawyers?
Having a plethora of different standards sure doesn't help..
In Canada, and other countries there is a uniform ballot across the
On Sun, Dec 10, 2000 at 07:04:18PM -0800, Tim May wrote:
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You're missing the point. Several people set their systems to provide
their _entire_ messages as attachments. Riad Wahby acknowledged this,
and fixed it. Others did not, so I started filtering them out.
Riad "fixed" his software
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