sure? It seems to be on i386 CD 3.
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What were you planning to do on upgrade? Normally, dpkg would set the
files back to empty.
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drilling down and trying to work
out ways of implementing it.
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This same proposition is one that has been previously touted by such
entities as Microsoft.
What does this have to do with debian-devel?
debian-devel mailing list
Development of Debian
Discussion about technical development topics.
Take it to debian-legal or something.
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Desired state of packages should never have been in /var/lib/dpkg/status
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On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 06:08:14PM +0300, David Baron wrote:
System seems to run OK without it.
Forget it, or is it really needed somewhere?
It seems to have been renamed to usbhid.
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give you any feedback (at least not to stdout)
Every Debian init.d script that starts a daemon says something like
Starting web server: apache.
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I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do it;
there are lots of ways it can break.
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exactly what happened, rather than just saying it puked?
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in IDE support, or whatever's
needed for your disk.
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On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 09:55:59AM -0400, David T-G wrote:
...and then Colin Watson said...
%
% On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 04:43:43PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
%
%debootstrap --arch i386 --verbose stable /mnt/suse81 file:///mnt/empty/
%
% (and also 'woody' in place of 'stable
like 'testing' contains a window during which bad people
could do bad things ...
Yup. Unfortunately, we can't do anything about this until a team turns
up to do security updates for testing, which is a hard and
time-consuming job.
http://www.debian.org/security/faq#testing
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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 5:14 AM Colin Watson wrote:
I *strongly* recommend against upgrading by cron job. Just don't do
it; there are lots of ways it can break.
I have heard this mentioned before. Could you elaborate? Why
.
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$ COLUMNS=222 dpkg-query -l \*|awk '/===/,EOF{print $2}'|sort -o /tmp/debian
$ comm -23 /tmp/gnu /tmp/debian|xargs|fold -s|sed 's/ $//'
Why don't you look for source package names?
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On Thu, May 20, 2004 at 06:08:56AM +0800, Katipo wrote:
Ishwar Rattan wrote:
Where can I find the .deb package for mplayer?
In unstable.
mplayer isn't in unstable (yet, at least).
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...and then Colin Watson said...
% On Wed, May 19, 2004 at 05:24:24PM -0400, David T-G wrote:
% Aha! I don't have any such pool/ directory. I'll go and download that
% now.
%
% Right, you need the .debs to be in the same layout
the COLUMNS shell variable but fail to export it to the
dpkg subprocess (you need an explicit 'export' to do that). 'COLUMNS=200
dpkg -l' is a special syntax that adds the variable to the environment
of the dpkg subprocess without affecting the shell in which it is
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(COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l) | head
... as well as the more natural:
COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | head
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? procmail. Or the Perl-based tool whose name I can never
remember. Mailmumble.
maildrop, I'm guessing.
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about what Debian should ship, not
what our users should be able to do.
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On Fri, May 14, 2004 at 08:35:53PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
Colin Watson wrote:
On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 07:45:48PM +0200, Jan Willem Stumpel wrote:
Please tell us, because this is a very serious botch-up which makes
Debian almost unusable for non-C-locale users.
This is obviously
it is moved to the next phase of readyness for
'stable'.
That applies to Debian packages, but not to third-party products being
ported to Debian. The usual approach for those is to build for stable
and deal with other problems if and when they arise.
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execute the script. If I do the same by hand it
works. I aso tried placing the link in /etc/rc2.d bu had no luck.
Perhaps you forgot to make the script executable?
Much simpler just to add a link in rc2.d for ssh, though; you could even
use 'dpkg-reconfigure ssh'.
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linux but then again I haven't
really looked.
Drive letters are a really bad idea; Unix doesn't have them. You can use
'mount --bind' with Linux 2.4 and above to pretend that bits of the
filesystem are the same as other bits, if you like.
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some of them.
http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-customizing.en.html#s-custombootscripts
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What architecture is this? The ramdisk size is too small; boot with the
ramdisk_size=16384 (or similar) kernel parameter to work around this.
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On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 02:33:17AM +0800, cantona wrote:
I am using locale zh_HK, the date is displaying in Chinese. ( 5 13
02:26:03 HKT 2004)
I want to display the 'date' in C (Thu May 13 02:28:59 HKT 2004)
Set LC_TIME=C in your environment. See locale(7).
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this, though I know of none by
name.
'corkscrew' is one.
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Incidentally, I used shift L in mutt to send a reply and normally it
won't cc you but it seems to have done - is there something in the way
your setup is inhibiting normal behaviour?
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mentors archive are there because they're waiting for a Debian developer
to sponsor them into the official archive.
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to open /dev/ttyS0
How can i change my /dev/ttyS0 so that a regular user can use it ?
Don't change the device; add the user to the dialout group.
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often define aliases for single
sessions, for example). Put those changes in your shell startup scripts;
that's what they're there for.
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it be done at all?
Very current daily builds of the sarge debian-installer (not beta4)
support software RAID.
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can't be used on debian at all).
In general they shouldn't be.
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state before your current selections.
That only works if you haven't left the Select screen since making the
selections you want to revert. See #151540 for a patch adding the
feature Vittorio wants, and discussion of how you can sort of do it in a
confusing way without the patch.
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be an alias of itself,
something like alias rm='rm -i'
Whatever you read was wrong; a word is not expanded as an alias if it is
identical to an alias currently being expanded.
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dated April, 2002? Is this the most recent version?
That's the build date. Remember that the last stable release was
released in July 2002 ...
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On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 07:54:22PM +0200, Pedro M. (Morphix User) wrote:
For me, It wasn't so easy to upgrade. How can I see If I have upgraded
my kernel to 2.6.X (i.e.).
uname -a
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Debian doesn't use RPM. The sort of thing you're trying to do Just Won't
Work without a lot of manual hacking; if you're going to do that then
you might as well run an RPMish distribution to start with.
Use the Debian package management tools instead.
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with filenames and
line numbers and stuff, so that you can use patch?
Use 'diff -u'.
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makes
Debian almost unusable for non-C-locale users.
This is obviously not true, since the locale warnings you got were
merely non-failure-causing warnings, and not the source of the error ...
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On Fri, May 07, 2004 at 02:00:05PM -0700, Justin Souter, InkNoise wrote:
Is there any information on when the current testing release will become the
stable release?
Follow the debian-devel-announce mailing list for relevant
announcements.
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other sensible delimiter of your choice.
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On Thu, May 06, 2004 at 02:11:11PM -0400, Emma Jane Hogbin wrote:
On Wed, May 05, 2004 at 11:53:33AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
I find it simplest by far to run mutt in a UTF-8 locale, at which point
it can deal with accented characters from a wide range of languages
without me having
. Hopefully potential future
employers see what kind of pointless hissy-fits you're prone to.
On the evidence of this thread you really don't have anything to preach
about, I'm afraid.
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I bet you just need to upgrade makedev to a fixed version: 2.3.1-69
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Are you using a UTF-8-aware mutt?
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On Mon, May 03, 2004 at 09:10:45AM +0200, Giannandrea Castaldi wrote:
and added in my .bashrc the following lines:
export LC_ALL=en_US
export LANG=en_US
export LC_CTYPE=iso_8859_1
Perhaps LC_TYPE isn't correct
I would expect LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1 or similar.
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asking for trouble, but we wouldn't have to go that far). Until now,
though, it has not been feasible.
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That is completely outdated.
What's outdated about it? It might not have been updated in a while, but
that's not quite the same thing. As far as I know, the advice it gives
is still good.
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On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 08:38:15AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:49:28AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
Aside from that, I'm afraid you would have been necessarily ignored
until now. Without a working installer, there is absolutely no point in
releasing. This has thoroughly
, I also noticed that there is a usbcore module that uses uhci-hcd
in 2.6.5 kernel.
usbcore is the bottom layer of USB support, required in order to use USB
at all. See the help entry for Support for USB in the kernel
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believe there is no easy way to get this information.
(correct me if i'm wrong)
This is being worked on (by me) in the bug tracking system. It's not an
easy task, and not well-solved by tags.
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On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 06:59:10PM -0400, xavier wrote:
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 11:44:32PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
This is being worked on (by me) in the bug tracking system. It's not an
easy task, and not well-solved by tags.
Thanks a lot, I guess you think that's an issue too
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 07:06:49PM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
On Sun, May 02, 2004 at 10:11:35PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
It took quite a bit of effort (several months and a complete cessation
of work on the new debian-installer) to whip the potato installation
system into shape for woody
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 02:35:21PM +0200, David Fokkema wrote:
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 11:27:23AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Sat, May 01, 2004 at 05:54:38AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
I have been following the discussion from bits here, from
planet.debian.net and misc sources. I
.
sysvinit (2.85-8) unstable; urgency=low
[...]
* Do not run bootlogd by default - it's a bit to experimental for
the stable release. Can be turned on manually (closes: #217582)
[...]
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, but does not properly
pass it back to ssh-add (or ssh, for that matter).
That's a makedev bug. See #245718 et al.
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: (pam_securetty) access denied: tty ':0.0' is not secure !
This is a filed bug against pam.
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we're going to have to get a move on there (and I certainly
don't speak for Joey ...). We'll see.
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On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 06:07:21PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:32:20PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
On Tue, Apr 20, 2004 at 04:54:50PM +0200, Florian Ernst wrote:
Sarge and 2.6 as the default kernel? Well, I'd guess like »never«.
Maybe it will be the default
or ATA menus for 2.6.4 or 2.6.5,
which I downloaded from the debian kernel-source packages and extracted
into /usr/src. Could someone tell me exactly where to find the
replacement option, please?
Make sure you have CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL turned on. It's under SCSI
low-level drivers.
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... someone's assuming that d-i rather than the more normal boot-floppies
is in use.
The guy said a fresh install of unstable. It's a reasonable
assumption. Joey is familiar with installer issues :-)
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putty
generates errors.
What errors? It's impossible to help without seeing those.
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ATA still requires a 2.6 kernel; support for it is scheduled for
inclusion in 2.4.27. There are 2.6 versions of sarge's debian-installer
in preparation, but they're still somewhat experimental ...
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the problem tracking when i assumed everything was ok
with my old version of putty (0.5.1), sorry.
Aha, right.
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.html indeed
lists some crash bugs fixed after 0.51.
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I just installed sarge using the new installer last week.
[...]
So: a) whoever's in charge of the installer,
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on i386, maybe powerpc as well.
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time, each one gets assigned to an appropriate
name, say /mnt/schoolfiles/ and /mnt/fun/? This would be
convenient (tho not essential) for me.
Sounds like you want the LABEL= or UUID= syntax in /etc/fstab. See
fstab(5) for details.
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lots of modules.
Is this reasonable? There have to be some modules, right?
The security update was broken. :-( The security team are aware of it,
or so conversation on IRC would suggest ...
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assessment of any difference between Linux and XP in themselves, whether
or not millions of people use it. I also don't think that counting is a
very interesting benchmark really. :)
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to dispel the stigma the name gives?
The name's hardcoded all over the place, unfortunately. Even if we
wanted to, it'd actually be rather a large amount of effort to rename
it, effort we could more productively spend in finishing off the new
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to disseminate release targets, but I don't expect them to be decent
until we've got sarge out of the way.
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? The simpler way would be 'l'+Enter, but it does
not work. I had a look in the '?' list of all keybindings, but found
nothing.
'l' followed by entering '.' as the pattern works for me.
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installer. So if anyone knows where I might find some
documentation on this could you please let me know.
We don't have software RAID support in debian-installer yet, I'm afraid,
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, but the whole thing definitely is not. In fact, some of the
components of Debian are released under licences incompatible with the
GPL (but still free).
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cant use this one.
Debian doesn't make sid isos available, complain to whoever made them.
Be careful; nowadays we do make netinsts of unstable and businesscard
images that can install unstable. They're only really there for
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path. Help?
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./scrape_test.pl 'Demolition Man'
Can't locate XML/LibXML.pm in @INC (@INC
You're still missing libxml-libxml-perl, as before.
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interested in something, subscribe to the *relevant*
mailing list. Nobody in Debian has an obligation to personally knock on
your door and advise you of everything.
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, you'd need to be
able to narrow it down to a particular package before you wipe the disk
in order to file a bug, really.
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source directory after getting the source.
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it on a web site and see if someone
can work it out.
I've never heard of this problem before. I don't believe it's a common
problem with Debian. Are you sure you don't have a subtle hardware
problem?
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versions)
. when things go wrong, its output can be confusing even to
experts; an interactive dependency resolver is much easier to
follow in practice
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