Re: ssh and shosts file
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], you wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 1997 at 09:34:10AM -0500, Dale Martin wrote: And, if you still have problems, study the output of ssh -v very closely. It's about the only way to figure out what's wrong when ssh is unhappy. Hmmm. Just tried this. ssh -v tells me that remote rhosts authentication was disabled due to bad perms on my home directory at the other end, but my directory is drwxrwx--x, which is perfectly correct (group read/write/execute due to Debian's use of user groups, and world execute for public_html access). Is this an ssh bug? Not as such. Ssh is perfectly reasonable in being paranoid about permissions as it has no way of knowing that only you are in your personal group. There is really no need for group write permission on your directory, so you might as well chmod g-w it. -- Aaron Denney -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: multiple X sessions problem
On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Adrian Bridgett wrote: This seems to be saying that the currently running Xserver won't let you connect. I think when you run startx --:1.0 it is trying to start it on the currently running server. Try using something like startx --vt9 :1.0 (I don't know if that's right, but it's getting there!) This can't be the problem. startx will never try to connect to an existing server. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Getting info from X
Hi, Did you get an answer to your question. It is something I've been wanting to know also. aaron Adalberto == Adalberto da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adalberto Hello users, Adalberto Excuses for my silly question: Adalberto How can I get information from X to know resolution Adalberto and color depth of my actual server? Adalberto Well, I can change resolution with that 'three keys Adalberto effort' but I don't know exactly how many colors were Adalberto displayed and how many linescolumns each screen was Adalberto working. Adalberto Thanks, -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: multiple X sessions problem
E Papantoniou wrote: my problem is that I cannot run more than one X server at the same time. When I am logged in as a user one and run startx on display :0.0, I do Ctrl-Alt-F2, log in as a user two and type startx -- :1.0 What version of the X packages are you running? There have been bugs in the startx script that would cause exactly this problem. To find out what version of X you are running: $ dpkg -s xbase | grep Version Mine says: Version: 3.3.1-2 If you want a working startx script I can send you mine [1]. This should work on any recent version of X (at least on any 3.2 or 3.3 version, I think). Remco [1] This is the standard startx package from the xbase package, version 3.3.1-2 . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Partitioning
Do du commands on your various filesystems to see how much you're using on each. Put /var and /home on one slice and everything else on the other. Add up what you're using for everything else, add a percentage for growth, and make the everything else slice that big. Make a swap partition (I use 100 Mb, YMMV), Use the rest for /var, /home, and /tmp. HTH. On 08-Dec-97 Andrew wrote: Owing to the fulness of my Linux partition, I have bought a 1.2 Gb harddrive. I'm intending on transfering Linux to this, leaving win95 to fester on my old 800 Mb one. I think I'll want two partitions besides swap for robustness and performance, but how do I divide the filesystem up? Can I just copy everything directly across and point LILO at the new hard drive, or are there other issues at stake here? The new harddrive is slaved to the old one, but LILO resides in the MBR of the primary, right? Andrew Tarr (to reply, put a 60 between ajt and @ so the address reads [EMAIL PROTECTED]. I could claim this is antispam, but it isn't - my email stuff is just broken) Would an Orange by any other name be the same colour? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . - Ralph Winslow [EMAIL PROTECTED] The IQ of the group is that of the member whose IQ is lowest divided by the number of members. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: HELP!!!!!!
I had a friend with this problem. You can put the base system on five floppies. It really doesn't take too long. On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, --- A.T.E. --- wrote: O.K. here's the problem . I have a laptop and I want to take dos ,windows and all that stuff off and just run a straight Linux system but .if I do that how can I install Linux on it ? It doesn't have a cd-rom (well it does but it's pcmcia), and all of my Linux stuff is on cd-rom !..My cd-rom is supported with kernal image 2.0.30 and newer and I can solve this but my resc1440 disk uses k.image 2.0.29 so I need to get a rescue disk that has 2.0.30. The real problem I am having is that without my cd-rom I can't install the base system and it is too large to put on a floppy to install it WHAT CAN I DO? Please respond as soon as possible !!! Randy Ohler __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: your mail
ftp.debian.org They are also on your cd in the same directory as the rescue floppy image. You can use the cd undere DOS and write them to floppies with RAWRITE On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, --- A.T.E. --- wrote: Where can I get or how do I make a set of linux base system installation floppies __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: reply:StarOffice,printing and dj, again!
Jens. Here's a twist. I've attached a short text file clipped from the Linux Printing Howto. Apparently, the input filter is not run when printing to remote printers. The clip describes setting up a double print queue in order to run the input filter, but still no luck. I'm not sure I understand what needs to be done to make the double queue work properly. Have you seen any setup like the one in the clip before? tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10.8. Running an if for remote printers One oddity of lpd is that the if is not run for remote printers. If you find that you need to run an if, you can do so by setting up a double queue and requeueing the job. As an example, consider this printcap: lj-5:remote-hplj:\ :lp=/dev/null:sh:\ :sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj-5:\ :if=/usr/lib/lpd/filter-lj-5: lj-5-remote:lp=/dev/null:sh:rm=printer.name.com:\ :rp=raw:sd=/var/spool/lpd/lj-5-raw: in light of this filter-lj-5 script: #!/bin/sh gs options -q -dSAFER -sOutputFile=- - | \ lpr -Plj-5-remote -U$5 The -U option to lpr only works if lpr is run as daemon, and it sets the submitter's name for the job in the resubmitted queue correctly. You should probably use a more robust method of getting the username, since in some cases it is not argument 5. See the man page for printcap.
Re: Email only users, and Bulk User Adds/Removes
On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Darren Renaud wrote: Is there a way to establish an email only account? Also is there a way to add or remove a large amount of those accounts (if they can exist)? I'm setting up a system for student email, and have to add or remove 40+ accounts per semester. I'd like to limit the accounts to POP3 only, and prevent those users from accessing telnet etc. To prevent them from logging in via telnet etc., give them /bin/false for a shell. Don't forget to add a line '/bin/false' to /etc/shells. To add and delete many users, write a script that calls useradd and userdel. Remco -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: multiple X sessions problem
Remco Blaakmeer wrote: E Papantoniou wrote: my problem is that I cannot run more than one X server at the same time. When I am logged in as a user one and run startx on display :0.0, I do Ctrl-Alt-F2, log in as a user two and type startx -- :1.0 I eventually managed to run the second X session using xinit -- :1 instead of startx -- :1 which makes me think you might be right talking about a bug. What version of the X packages are you running? There have been bugs in the startx script that would cause exactly this problem. my software specification is: kernel 2.0.31, X configuration: XFree86 Version 3.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6300) Release Date: Jun 2 1997 Operating System: Linux 2.0.21 i486 [ELF] Configured drivers: S3: accelerated server for S3 graphics adaptors (Patchlevel 0) newmmio, mmio_928, s3_generic If you want a working startx script I can send you mine [1]. This should work on any recent version of X (at least on any 3.2 or 3.3 version, I think). Remco [1] This is the standard startx package from the xbase package, version 3.3.1-2 . If you can please send me your startx script to check for differences against mine thanks, Manos -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
CD-ROM Problem
I have some older versions from Trans-Ameritech CDs, but when I heard about Debian being included on the November Boot magazine disk I thought I'd give it a try. I had installed the base Slackware 1.2.28(I think?), but was unable to get X running, though it would come up; nothing more. My problem is that when I get to dselect and choose CD-ROM and enter for the block device /dev/scd0 and return I get the following output: scsi 0: watchdog timer fired in NCR5380_() scsi 0: switching target 1 lun 0 return code = 7000 CD-ROM i/o error: dev 0b:00, sector 64 kernel panic: scsi_free: trying to free unused memory My scsi card is a Trantor 128, CD-ROM is an ancient NEC Intersect 73(1X). I've been told by an IBM mainframe guy that Linux is for hobbyists and may never run. A mechanical enginneer I know is convinced Linux is just another OS destined for oblivion( and that I am rebelling against Bill Gates). I am definitely new at this, but I am convinced that there are better OSs than what most of the world is using; how will they know if no one tells them there is more? Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CGI Error
Perl's idiot's guide to solving cgi problems didn't have any helpful hints for my problem. Although it did say something about running the server as a user which could write in all the cgi directories, which didn't seem right. Currently Apache runs as www-data/www-data which is enough access to read execute to all the server home directories. Alright, this is really weird. After adding those lines it ran fine and now it runs w/o those lines.. maybe my permissions were wrong, but I'm sure they were 755 root/root. hmm.. Anyhow, now it only runs in the /cgi-bin and not the user's directories, so the problem is probably suEXEC since it controls cgi execution in user dirs, right? ... what a mess. Thanks Paul On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Martin Bialasinski wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Paul Miller wrote: I can run other cgi scripts, so that can't be the problem... You didn't tell us, if you have accepted our advice to take a look at perl's idiot's guide to solving cgi problems. Anyway, change the script like this: #!/usr/bin/perl open (OUT, /tmp/cgitest) or die can't open cgitest file; print OUT CGI Script started\n; close OUT; [rest of the script] If you don't get a file /tmp/cgitest, then your script doesn't get executed. Then it is most likely a permission problem. Ciao, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Email only users, and Bulk User Adds/Removes
On 08-Dec-97 Darren Renaud wrote: Is there a way to establish an email only account? Also is there a way to add or remove a large amount of those accounts (if they can exist)? I'm setting up a system for student email, and have to add or remove 40+ accounts per semester. I'd like to limit the accounts to POP3 only, and prevent those users from accessing telnet etc. I know that others have suggested setting the users' shells to /bin/false - that will disallow telnet and (unless you put /bin/false into /etc/shells) will also disallow ftp. If I may make a further suggestion: make the users' shells /usr/bin/passwd. That way, they can change their password by simply telnetting to your machine (and changing their password is all that they can do). Also, you may wish to create a directory under /home (for example, called /home/nologin) with mode 755 owned by root, and then set all the users' home directories to that instead of the default. (Of course, you can't do this if using something like qmail, which expects to be able to drop things into users' home directories) To ease the bulk creation of accounts, you should look in to the newusers utility. It does great things all at once. You may also look into the program pwgen, which generates potential passwords. (e.g. you could use pwgen in a script which generates a file for newusers) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
hosts.deny
Hi- I would like to configure my Debian box to accept telnet, ftp, and www connections. Right know I have my hosts.allow as ALL:ALL but I would like limit the connections to only those with my schools connections and my local LAN's machines. i.e.just allowing *.unt.edu and *.dimension.org What should my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files look like? Thanks in advance! -Ian p.s. reply to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the list as I haven't changed my address on the list yet! ;) _ .__. __ __ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__.\\ \\/ / | | | | | \\ | | | | | | \\ \\ / / | | | | | |\\ \\| | | | | | \\ \\/ / | |__ | | | | \\ \| | | |_| | / /\\ \\ |__|__.|__| |__| \\| |___| / / \\ \\ __ _ __ __ ___ __. __ | ._. | | | | | | | ||__| | | | |_| | | | | | | | |||_/ / |__| | | | | | | ||__| / / | |\\ \\ | |_| | | |__. ||_./ / | | \\ \\ |_| |_| |__| / /___. |_| \\_\\ /__| * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dunc pppd configuration script
bill writes: Some ISPs using CHAP present the username/password sort of thing (of course username: might be something else like login:, account:, etc. but actually don't use them for ppp logins. If the script wakes up getty on such systems, a ppp login attempt will fail. Yes, I'm aware of that. If the user specifies pap or chap such prompts will be ignored. I personally am trying to play around with the multiple ISP problem here and while in principle it ought to be trivial it is proving to be anything but! Richard has already solved it (though at the cost of seperate config files for each user). Inasmuch as hamm seems to create the /etc/ppp/peer directory and the etc/chatscripts/provider file, I would suggest that any user configuration tool default to naming the provider files with name related to the users input thus in effect making the existing provider files example files. I intend to do something like that. pon itself seems only to lack the ability to accept either an arguement (which might be a security problem) or a choice which should not be a problem. The user can also simply type 'pppd call provider'. I also feel as though the whole process, as it currently exists (in bo), of setting up an ISP connection is horribly messy. I agree. This is partly an upstream problem. 2.3.1 improves the situation quite a bit. I don't know your own priorities but suggest that ALL connection methods be considered for eventual inclusion in your setup software, even slip. I monitor the newsgroups for questions about getting on-line. I don't recall the last time I saw one about slip. Does anyone on this list use it? I've dunc to where it deals properly with my isp. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hosts.deny
On Mon, Dec 08, 1997 at 11:04:07PM -0600, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Hi- I would like to configure my Debian box to accept telnet, ftp, and www connections. Right know I have my hosts.allow as ALL:ALL but I would like limit the connections to only those with my schools connections and my local LAN's machines. i.e. just allowing *.unt.edu and *.dimension.org First you must check your configuration of inetd.conf in your etc dir The line which specified ie telnet daemon must look like this : telnet stream tcp nowait root/usr/sbin/tcpd /usr/sbin/in.telnetd Command /usr/sbin/tcpd means that before establishing connection for telnet deamon (in.telnetd) must pass rules of host.allow and host.deny After that your configuration of hosts files should by something like this : hosts.deny : in.telnetd: ALL #this disable absolutely all connection for telnet but allow : hosts.allow : in.telnetd: .unt.edu in.telnetd: .dimension.org Rules for passing hosts config diles are : 1) If acces is allowed in host.allow - the request is enabled 2) If no, then host.deny is scanned for apropriate rule - if it's found - the request is disabled 3) If the apropriate rule hasn't been founded - the request is enabled Uh, it might be all hi Marty [EMAIL PROTECTED] What should my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files look like? Thanks in advance! -Ian p.s. reply to my [EMAIL PROTECTED] and the list as I haven't changed my address on the list yet! ;) _ .__. __ __ | | .__. .__..__. .__. .__.\\ \\/ / | | | | | \\ | | | | | | \\ \\ / / | | | | | |\\ \\| | | | | | \\ \\/ / | |__ | | | | \\ \| | | |_| | / /\\ \\ |__|__.|__| |__| \\| |___| / / \\ \\ __ _ __ __ ___ __. __ | ._. | | | | | | | ||__| | | | |_| | | | | | | | |||_/ / |__| | | | | | | ||__| / / | |\\ \\ | |_| | | |__. ||_./ / | | \\ \\ |_| |_| |__| / /___. |_| \\_\\ /__| * DEBIAN GNU/Linux * -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: hosts.deny
On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Ian Keith Setford wrote: Hi- I would like to configure my Debian box to accept telnet, ftp, and www connections. Right know I have my hosts.allow as ALL:ALL but I would like limit the connections to only those with my schools connections and my local LAN's machines. i.e. just allowing *.unt.edu and *.dimension.org What should my hosts.allow and hosts.deny files look like? hi there You should be able to use these in your files to do what you wish /etc/hosts.allow ALL: [EMAIL PROTECTED] localhost #allow all from your localhost ALL: .unt.edu #allow all from the unt.edu domain ALL: .dimension.org #allow all from the dimension.org domain /etc/hosts.deny ALL: ALL#Will deny from all other sites Hope this helps you out. there are many ways to setup these files but this should do what you want. --Rob -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: NNTPCACHE
Just wondering if anyone has sucessfully compiled NNTPCACHE on a Debian system? If so, how?!?!? Just follow the directions and it should work perfectly... or at least it has for me for over a year now :) One thing you can do if you aren't used to compiling things is to not worry about configuring it at compile time. Everything that's important can be changed in the config file and there is a run time option for pointing to where the config file lives. The source for NNTPCACHE can be found from ftp://suburbia.net/pub/nntpcache The nntpcache.org address is now finally back. You can visit it's web page at: http://www.nntpcache.org/ Adam. Internet Alaska - 4050 Lake Otis Adam Shand(v) +1 907 562 4638 Anchorage, AlaskaSystems Administrator (f) +1 907 562 1677 - http://larry.earthlight.co.nz -- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xxgdb or ddd
Hello all: I'm trying to use xxgdb or ddd to debug a small program. With xxgdb when I attempt to load a program (compiled with the -g option) I get a segmentation fault. When I try to use ddd, I get can't malloc. I there something other than the -g option I must use ? The -g option during compiling _and_ linking should be enough. For g++, you could use -gstabs+. What exactly did you do in xxgdb? If you get a segmentation fault while running the program, try the `where' command to see where the program was when it crashed. The debugger will not stop a program from crashing, it will (among other things) let you inspect the status of the program when it crashes. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Need help in X Windows installation
Hi! I'm having problems running X Windows after installing it. There's no default window manager after running 'startx' at the command prompt even if I specified one during the installation, so I have to type whatever window manager I want to use at the console after it starts up. Does anyone know what files should contain what lines? Any help will be highly appreciated. Bryan Barcelo EarthGate Information Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
partition table not found
I'm trying to install Debian 1.3.1 on a new system, which means I have no
certainty that anything (the hardware) is actually working as it is
supposed
to.
I get a few error messages, one of which is a 'can't find partition table'
or something like which scrolls by quickly after a series of messages like
this:
hda: irq timeout: status=0x50 { DriveReady SeekComplete}
.
.
.
hda: irq timeout: status=0x58 {DriveReady SeekComplete DataReady}
I also got error messages like this:
end_request I/O error dev 03:00 sector 0
Later, out of the main menu, in the partitioning the disk section, it says
'FDISK FATAL ERROR: cannot read drive' or something like.
When run from a dos floppy, MS (ahem) v6.2 fdisk appear to work fine.
This is all happening with a Maxtor 5.12G drive, model 85120A8. I have
tried
a number of things; booting with/without Maxtor's EZ-Bios, using
Normal/Large/LBA adressing for the drive, booting from dos floppy (via
boot.bat), the CD directly, manually setting the numbers of
heads/cylinders/sectors (though Linux seems to do this as well as I) etc.
etc.
I'm stumped.
Oh, and yes, I did turn off all those BIOS options, like virus check,
shadow
RAM, etc.
Help, assistance and/or wisdom will be greatly appreciated.
-S
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Re: Getting info from X
Adalberto How can I get information from X to know resolution Adalberto and color depth of my actual server? Adalberto Well, I can change resolution with that 'three keys Adalberto effort' but I don't know exactly how many colors were Adalberto displayed and how many linescolumns each screen was Adalberto working. Type xdpyinfo at a xterm to get these information among many others. For details see man xdpyinfo. xdpyinfo is part of the xbase package. Markus. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ThinkPad 560
Hi Paul! Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of no Thinkpads that can boot bzImages (though I do not know many Thinkpads) - which is why the 'tecra' disks work (i.e. they are zImages). Is this true? I thought that the Tecra disks were still bzImages, but were compiled with the kernel patch from Jen's Maurer's site, Linux on the Toshiba Tecra series: http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/ If this is still the case, is the patch provided in one of the source packages? Kirk Hilliard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Getting info from X
Hello, Aaron, I'm quite sure my question was a very, very silly question because I got no answers about. I've read an X guide from O'Reillys and there's no clue for my question (and now I know, for yous too), all those HowTo's I got too. In a word: nothing. I know this is a kind of mere curious question but... Best regrads, Adalberto da Silva -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
PAS CD-ROM
Hi, I was wondering if anyone else had a Pro Audio Spectrum (16) working with there Debian box and more importantly if they have gotten the cd-rom to work with it off the cd-rom port on the card I have gotten the sound to work but not the cdrom ... what I need to figiure out is the device name ...IE /dev/cdrom (It's not that one) ... Thanks. -Kevin, kc5vxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Col, 3:23 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Logical partitions created with DOS fdisk are completely unusable by Linux, and often will result in cfdisk reporting a broke partition table. In general, it is wise to assume human error or misunderstanding when problems with partition tables appear. I've _always_ used DOS fdisk to create _all_ of my partitions [*], and have never encountered any problems. This includes many extended partitions, that were perfectly visible by Linux. Personally, I'd sooner distrust cfdisk than DOS fdisk anyway. I have had reports from others who have thought they were getting ahead of the game by creating their partitions in DOS before beginning the Debian install, and were disturbed to find that Debian didn't think there were any partitions available, or worse yet that their partition table was broken. I've done that many times, and never had any problem. I'd like to see a partition table, created with DOS fdisk, with these 'problems'. Gertjan. [*] Since DOS fdisk has severely limited capabilities, I used to have it create a DOS partition, and then change (with a disk editor) the type to whatever I wanted it to be. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partitioning
bleach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Linux doesn't recognize or even care about primary partitions. fdisk, cfdisk, etc. recognize them but only because BIOS deals with drives and partitions in this fashion. Wrong. BIOS has no notion of partitions at all. Linux _does_ 'care' about partitions - it just isn't particular about which _type_ of partition it is installed to (like you wrote). The reason why there can only be four primary partitions is due to the design of the PC BIOS. Wrong again - it is due to the design of the partition table, and was (presumably) done by MS. It has _nothing_ to to with the BIOS. When they ran into the limitation [*], they created extended partitions, of which there can be as many as you like. Even lilo ignores the DOS, Windoz, OS2, characteristic of not seeing the inactive primary partitions (of course OS2 boot manager effectively does also). Wrong again - DOS and Windows have no problem whatsoever with seeing inactive primary partitions. I have four primary DOS partitions on my first HD, and DOS sees all of them and assigns them drive letters. Only OS/2 has this silly limitation, and OS/2's Boot Manager 'hides' (changes the type from 4 to 0x14, or 6 to 0x16) all other primary DOS partitions when booting one. The reason LILO doesn't care about partition tables is that it creates a list of the physical locations of sectors to load when booting. Gertjan. [*] Actually, the real reason extended partitions were created was as a quick fix for the (then) MS-DOS limitation of not being able to access disks that were larger than 32 MB. They removed this limitation around DOS 4.0, IIRC. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Need help in X Windows installation
Hello Bryan,yes there is a file that has the windows manager information. It also tells what order to start them in. But you can only have one running at a time. Here is mine, it is in /etc/X11/windows-managers # This file contains a list of available window managers. The default # Xsession file will start the first window manager that it can # in this list. /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm2 /usr/local/bin/enlightenment -theme /usr/local/enlightenment/themes/dreamworks /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm95-2 /usr/X11R6/bin/fvwm /usr/X11R6/bin/twm #-- afterstep begin /usr/X11R6/bin/afterstep #-- afterstep end I hope this helps. If you have any more questions then email me. Paul On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Bryan Barcelo wrote: Hi! I'm having problems running X Windows after installing it. There's no default window manager after running 'startx' at the command prompt even if I specified one during the installation, so I have to type whatever window manager I want to use at the console after it starts up. Does anyone know what files should contain what lines? Any help will be highly appreciated. Bryan Barcelo EarthGate Information Services, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PAS CD-ROM
Kevin, I have gotten the sound to work but not the cdrom ... what I need to figiure out is the device name ...IE /dev/cdrom (It's not that one) ... Thanks. I also have a PAS16 at home, but I don't have a SCSI CD, so I haven't tried. Anyway, the PAS16 adaptor is SCSI, so you should try to use the /dev/sd? ports (sda, sdb, etc, etc). Salutacions, Pere __o mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2:343/108.91 - _`\;_ http://casal.upc.es/~pere/ PGP key available --- (_)/ (_)Lo importante es el concepto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: xxgdb or ddd
Thank you for your reply: Firstly, at the command line I enter the following -- xxgdb gdbtst Following that, the 4 windows open and then close. In the window where I started the program I get Segmentation Violation. So I don't have an opportunity to do anything within the debugger. If I just start xxgdb and try to select the file to debug, following the selection of the file all the xxgdb window remove themselves from the screen. The progam that I am running is a simple hello world C program which runs fine from the command line. With respect to the use of the`where' command, I am not familiar with that command. Can you tell me more. Thanks Peter I have used xxgdb before, -Original Message- From: E.L. Meijer (Eric) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 3:44 AM Subject: Re: xxgdb or ddd Hello all: I'm trying to use xxgdb or ddd to debug a small program. With xxgdb when I attempt to load a program (compiled with the -g option) I get a segmentation fault. When I try to use ddd, I get can't malloc. I there something other than the -g option I must use ? The -g option during compiling _and_ linking should be enough. For g++, you could use -gstabs+. What exactly did you do in xxgdb? If you get a segmentation fault while running the program, try the `where' command to see where the program was when it crashed. The debugger will not stop a program from crashing, it will (among other things) let you inspect the status of the program when it crashes. Eric Meijer -- E.L. Meijer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) | tel. office +31 40 2472189 Eindhoven Univ. of Technology | tel. lab. +31 40 2475032 Lab. for Catalysis and Inorg. Chem. (TAK) | tel. fax+31 40 2455054 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Netscape unresolved symbols
Alain Nissen wrote: Richard A Nelson wrote: When I start netscape I get a ration of the attached messages... I thought I've taken care of all the requisite symlinks, but am obviously missing something... Does anyone know what ? See bug report #14249. http://www.debian.org/Bugs/db/14/14249.html Alain Sorry for the encoded inclusion of error messages - with the change of ISPs, pine isn't quite up, having to use netscape... Anyway, I'm all set now - thanks for the quick responce -- Rick Nelson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: Email only users, and Bulk User Adds/Removes
Daniel Martin writes: [snip] is all that they can do). Also, you may wish to create a directory under /home (for example, called /home/nologin) with mode 755 owned by root, and then set all the users' home directories to that instead of the default. (Of course, you can't do this if using something like qmail, which expects to be able to drop things into users' home directories) Just for the record, you can do this with qmail. See qmail-users(5) for details. -- Adriano -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Getting info from X
Hello, Paul! My previous question was: Adalberto == Adalberto da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adalberto Hello users, Adalberto Excuses for my silly question: Adalberto How can I get information from X to know resolution Adalberto and color depth of my actual server? Adalberto Well, I can change resolution with that 'three keys Adalberto effort' but I don't know exactly how many colors were Adalberto displayed and how many linescolumns each screen was Adalberto working. Adalberto Thanks, I hope you can help me. Best regards, Adalberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PCMCIA modem is silent
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Phillips) writes: Toshiba laptops have a hotkey combination to control the audio output. [snip] But the computer makes other sounds like beeps etc. Does this mean the speaker can't have been turned off - or is this somehow separate? I don't think that this setting controls the BIOS beeps (e.g. boot-up beeps). Have you tried pressing Fn/F4 a few times until you can hear a beep (it cycles through off-soft-medium-loud)? -- _ _ Steve Kostecke| (_)_ __ _ ___ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | '_ \| | | \ \/ / http://kostecke.home.ml.org | | | | | | |_| | |_|_|_| |_|\__,_/_/\_\ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Getting info from X
Hello all: Isn't there a command called xdpyinfo which provides a prints to an xterm window the characteristics of your Xserver. Simply enter xdpyinfo. Peter -Original Message- From: Adalberto da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Getting info from X Hello, Paul! My previous question was: Adalberto == Adalberto da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adalberto Hello users, Adalberto Excuses for my silly question: Adalberto How can I get information from X to know resolution Adalberto and color depth of my actual server? Adalberto Well, I can change resolution with that 'three keys Adalberto effort' but I don't know exactly how many colors were Adalberto displayed and how many linescolumns each screen was Adalberto working. Adalberto Thanks, I hope you can help me. Best regards, Adalberto -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
/afs timeouts from /etc/cron.daily
I recently installed the AFS file system on a Debian Linux machine running the unstable distribution. Every time the scripts in /etc/cron.daily are run now I get a series of error messages about connections timing out for /afs domains. The messages look like find: /afs/bcc.ac.uk: Connection timed out The subject of the message from cron is Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily It seems that find is only called at / by updatedb in the script /etc/cron.daily/find and that script has a configuration file that puts /afs in the PRUNEPATHS and afs in the PRUNEFS variables. Those exclusions seem to work if I run the script by hand because I don't get any timeouts on afs domains. Are there are other scripts in /etc/cron.daily that may be running a find from / without excluding /afs? The contents of /etc/cron.daily for me are $ ls /etc/cron.daily acct find news standard apacheman-db smail sysklogd apache.dpkg-oldnetbase smail.dpkg-dist calendar netbase.dpkg-dist squid -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian/WindowsNT partitioning
Hi, System: PC with SCSI Quantum hard disk 3G and NT4 installed I have created 3 primary partitions of type NTFS I would like to create 2 linux partitions: system+swap but cfdisk gives an error when writing the partition table: FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive I am able to recover using the NT4 disk administrator. Regards, Marc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: reply:StarOffice,printing and dj, again!
tony mollica wrote: Jens. Here's a twist. I've attached a short text file clipped from the Linux Printing Howto. Apparently, the input filter is not run when printing to remote printers. The clip describes setting up a double print queue in order to run the input filter, but still no luck. I'm not sure I understand what needs to be done to make the double queue work properly. Have you seen any setup like the one in the clip before? Ah, now it all makes sense. Set up /etc/printcap like this: lp|hp|hp870|HP870Cse:\ :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp870:\ :sh:pw#80:pl#66:px#1440:mx#0:\ :if=/usr/sbin/dj550c-filter-2-hp870-real:\ :af=/var/log/lp-acct:lf=/var/log/lp-errs: hp870-real: :lp=/dev/null:sd=/var/spool/lpd/hp870-real:\ :sh:rm=192.168.1.1:rp=hp870: Now you'll create a script, call it /usr/sbin/dj550c-filter-2-hp870-real and make it like so: #!/bin/bash /usr/sbin/dj550c-filter $* | lpr -Php870-real -U$5 You also need to do this: mkdir /var/spool/lpd/hp870-real chown lp.lp /var/spool/lpd/hp870-real chmod 775 /var/spool/lpd/hp870-real Then restart lpd and you should be in business! -- Jens B. Jorgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: ThinkPad 560
I have been led to believe that the 'tecra' disks had the kernel patch AND were compiled as zImages. I may very well be wrong on this account. However, I have yet to see a bzImage (that I have compiled) boot my Thinkpad. Paul On 08-Dec-97 Kirk Hilliard wrote: Hi Paul! Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of no Thinkpads that can boot bzImages (though I do not know many Thinkpads) - which is why the 'tecra' disks work (i.e. they are zImages). Is this true? I thought that the Tecra disks were still bzImages, but were compiled with the kernel patch from Jen's Maurer's site, Linux on the Toshiba Tecra series: http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/ If this is still the case, is the patch provided in one of the source packages? Kirk Hilliard -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
package update listing from dpkg ?
Hello, I checked the dpkg man page and the dpkg --help listing but could not find an answer: Is there an option or set of flags that can be passed to dpkg in order for it to provide a listing of installed packages that have been updated? I'm assuming there must be since dselect does this and it's simply a wrapper for dpkg, right? I would like to be able to just get the latest Packages.gz file and check for updates. I'm looking for a list of updated installed packages, not available (uninstalled) ones. Thanks. --ken __ Ken Lauffenburger / /__ __ [EMAIL PROTECTED] / / D e b i a n G N U \ \/ / / / __ __ __ \ / / / / / / _ \ / / / / / \ ...Look out Bill, / /___ / / / / ) // (_/ / / /\ \ here comes... (__)(_/ (_/ (_/ \/ (_/ \_) http://www.debian.org -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
56k voice modem for Debian
Randy Edwards writes: I've got to get a new modem for a Debian machine. My requirements are that it be one of the Rockwell 56k standard ones, of course, that it do fax, and I'd like it to be able to handle voice. What I'd really love is to set up a voice mailbox system on my Debian box. So I was wondering, is there any such software for Debian to allow me to use a voice modem and set up such a mailbox system? Also, does anyone have any recommendations of particular modems which would meet my specs above? I'd appreciate any input; thanks in advance. There are a few of them... But if you want a good voice mail quality, I'd suggest making your own. With most packages you need to get acquainted with it, and that takes a few days, maybe a week. About the amount of time, it takes to make a voice package. But, you could take a look at mgetty, which does provide a vgetty program. In my case, I installed hylafax on my machine, which provides a very intensive fax functions (even paging). I also had a modem with a cirrus sound chip, that doesn't have any software support on Linux, so I programmed an 'egetty' (external getty) for hylafax, that grabs the call if it's a voice but passes it onto hylafax, if it's fax or data. The modem itself has all functions for voice mail, it's only a question of communicating with it in the right order, and then put the recording in a maildrop. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
packages in project/experimental
Hi, How to install those packages in project/experimental using dselect with ftp method. Thanks. Louis -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
GPC
Richard Davies writes: This is a request for some feedback from current and potential users of GPC. I have GPC 2.0 compiled for hamm, built using GCC 2.7.2.3. The next version of GPC (currently 971001) is in beta, but is already more stable than GPC 2.0. There seems to be a few possibilities available. I could package GPC 2.0, GPC 971001 beta, both versions, or wait until GPC 971001 beta is released as GPC 2.1. Let me know your preferences, if any, within the next few of days and I will then decide which course of action to take. I'd say package 2.1 beta, into unstable and 2.0 as stable. Then update the beta package when GPC get's released. I have a few pascal programs, that would be nice to compile on Linux and I'd want to use 2.1 as it is more complete than 2.0. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: reply:StarOffice,printing and dj, again!
Thanks, I'll try this out sometime this morning. tony mollica [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ThinkPad 560
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 8 Dec 1997, Kirk Hilliard wrote: Paul Rightley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know of no Thinkpads that can boot bzImages (though I do not know many Thinkpads) - which is why the 'tecra' disks work (i.e. they are zImages). Is this true? I thought that the Tecra disks were still bzImages, but were compiled with the kernel patch from Jen's Maurer's site, Linux on the Toshiba Tecra series: http://www.cck.uni-kl.de/misc/tecra710/ No it's not. The tecra disks are bzImages as you said. I compiled my only kernel with this patch, made a bzImage and was able to boot my Toshiba laptop. I can't speak for Thinkpads though... Nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNI2DRVptA0IhBm0NAQEbtQL/YNigu+7OvUYwBmNiELncFtI/ZvRkrxDv T9cq45MYHTfMdLmiiR5JwZKhE4hUkH8DqUXKwETT8qDnEy9Nf2kOTpRxU9XFr6Nt Me2y9zMzzgx07AFcOW2goRrHxhYoTEpu =q/Rd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /afs timeouts from /etc/cron.daily
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 9 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I recently installed the AFS file system on a Debian Linux machine Where is AFS for Linux available? Nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNI2Eh1ptA0IhBm0NAQHSnQL/a32WBNuVB7pbeYFBoVcZMJVlKs/WUNgP ihjsebdtPHuKGRdXV4oPD3BjTOrhtGjAdawdQU3piRL755/dEOOvSzU4nymho6Vw SOhigQ4aXL1Rfc/XrCBFxIuph4/qQ/d8 =j1Zc -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: GPC
This is a request for some feedback from current and potential users of GPC. I have GPC 2.0 compiled for hamm, built using GCC 2.7.2.3. The next version of GPC (currently 971001) is in beta, but is already more stable than GPC 2.0. There seems to be a few possibilities available. I could package GPC 2.0, GPC 971001 beta, both versions, or wait until GPC 971001 beta is released as GPC 2.1. Let me know your preferences, if any, within the next few of days and I will then decide which course of action to take. I'd say package 2.1 beta, into unstable and 2.0 as stable. Then update the beta package when GPC get's released. I have a few pascal programs, that would be nice to compile on Linux and I'd want to use 2.1 as it is more complete than 2.0. Upload the beta version into experimental. Brian ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) --- Management should work for the engineers, not the other way around. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
Hello all ... I have convinced a client of mine who is novell IPX based to install a debian linux machine into their small company. (all they have ever used is Novell for file and print shares). Initially , this new debian machine will be used to serve up internal web pages and documentation. There are other tasks to be performed based upon my success with the installation of the machine, and related web pages. I will be working on this project diligently, as they are somewhat apprehensive a free software package that can do all that stuff our novell box did, and more for FREE !!! I will be needing to install TCPIP stacks on their client machines. QUESTION: Is their a generic ip addressing scheme that should be used within this company , since it is not connected in any way to the net. Does it even matter? I guess I could use any address I want ... QUESTION: I took a quick tour of their offices, and have noticed the hub in the closet. The brand - David Systems, never heard of it myself... Will I have any problems passing TCP/IP over this hub? IP and IPX can exist together, cant they ??? I don't have any information on this hub other than it's name... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3
Dale Scheetz writes: On 8 Dec 1997, Sten Anderson wrote: That's the problem-^ When You install debian (or most other distributions), you must remove these pseudo-partitions as only DOS understands them. Are you saying that linux can't handle logical partitions? I am currently running linux on logical partitions, so I gues I have proven you wrong. While I can see how you got that impression (It looked that way to me as well), I believe what he is refering to is the difference between using DOS fdisk and Linux fdisk (or cfdisk). Logical partitions created with DOS fdisk are completely unusable by Linux, and often will result in cfdisk reporting a broke partition table. Using the original DOS tool to remove these partitions and replacing them using the Linux tool will usually recover the problem. Thanks Dale! The original poster had used the DOS fdisk to create the logical partition and of course was having trouble. To all the defenders of logical partitions, hey what can I say? Properly created partitions are quite usable, logical or otherwise. Linux, in general, and Debian, specifically, run quite nicely from a logical partition. This e-mail was sent from a system runing on a logical partition, so I know that part is true. I have had reports from others who have thought they were getting ahead of the game by creating their partitions in DOS before beginning the Debian install, and were disturbed to find that Debian didn't think there were any partitions available, or worse yet that their partition table was broken. Removing them with the DOS tool has always fixed this problem in the past. I have a question for you... What happens to the Linux partitions sitting in a extended partition if the extended partition gets accidently _trashed_? (like from a virus) -- -= Sent by Debian 1.3 Linux =- Thomas Kocourek KD4CIK - member of ARRL @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@westgac3.dragon.com Remove @_@ for correct Email address --... ...-- ... -.. . -.- -.. - -.-. .. -.- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: smail won't send mail
On Mon, Dec 08, 1997 at 03:02:09PM -0500, Daniel Martin wrote: On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: On Sun, 7 Dec 1997, Daniel Martin wrote: On Sat, 6 Dec 1997, Adam Klein wrote: In the past few days, smail has stopped non-local mail. It returns a message from MAILER-DAEMON saying something like `551: Have you read DNS + BIND'. What's going on? Adam Klein (some stuff I said, leading up to a plug for http://www.math.jhu.edu/~martind/mybox.html) I'm already using the smail setup described on your page, and it was working great, until a few days ago. Thanks. Ok; hmm... Well, I'm willing to bet that it's still some change your ISP did. Try going through a session manually: After ppp is up, see what value you have for visible_name in /etc/smail/config (when I use $visible_name$ below, I mean for you to use this value). Now see what value you have for the smarthost path variable in /etc/smail/routers. (when I use $smarthost$ below, this is what I mean for you to actually type) [testing suggestion snipped] Now, here's the thing - at some point in this little scenario, you should get the 551 message that smail keeps complaining about. Assuming you do, telling people on the list where the error happens might result in someone being able to solve your problem. However, if you don't get the error message, then something's really screwy, and I'll have to think about how you'd go tracking it down in that case. Thanks! It turns out I had my visible_name set to my hostname, which I figured wouldn't be a problem because I was using the special smail tranport. And it seems that for a while at least, it didn't matter. Then my ISP must have changed something, and all of a sudden, I needed to use the correct value of $visible_name. Thanks again, Adam Klein -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
QUESTION: Is their a generic ip addressing scheme that should be used within this company , since it is not connected in any way to the net. Does it even matter? I guess I could use any address I want ... There's an RFC on this, but I can't quote the number at the moment This RFC defines the use of 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0 for internal, private networks. QUESTION: I took a quick tour of their offices, and have noticed the hub in the closet. The brand - David Systems, never heard of it myself... Will I have any problems passing TCP/IP over this hub? IP and IPX can exist together, cant they ??? I don't have any information on this hub other than it's name... Can't help you on this. IP IPX do coexist without a problem and if the hub you mention is indeed only a hub, then it won't be a problem. However, if it's a router, then it will have to support IP as well as IPX. Later, Kevin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, David Oswald wrote: QUESTION: Is their a generic ip addressing scheme that should be used within this company , since it is not connected in any way to the net. Does it even matter? I guess I could use any address I want ... Yes, use one of the private network blocks set aside for that purpose by IANA. I typically use any number that starts with 10 and chose a netmask to suit the number of hosts needed. Ie. 10.0.0.x with a netmask of 255.255.255.0 gives 254 hosts that can be used. QUESTION: I took a quick tour of their offices, and have noticed the hub in the closet. The brand - David Systems, never heard of it myself... Will I have any problems passing TCP/IP over this hub? IP and IPX can exist together, cant they ??? I don't have any information on this hub other than it's name... Yes, IP and IPX can coexist normally. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re[2]: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
about private ip address spaces: Address Allocation for Private Internets is rfc 1597 http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt people may want to have a look at: http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/rfc1597.html which also talks about: Network 10 Considered Harmful (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified) which is rfc 1627 http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt -sen -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
XDM seem to hang until I reboot.
Hello all, I am running a Debian 1.3.1 install with the basics for X. I use xdm to login via WinNT/Exceed v5. I have used dftp up update all the X based stuff from ftp.debian.org and I use afterstep as my window manager. What I am having problems with is a lockup or hangup from XDM. If I am running a X session, it is possible to hangup, and I cannot seem to run anything. I cannot click on an XTERM button, or even run xterm if I have a free window up. When I do run a new 'xterm ' from an available window, after a certain time it tells me it cannot write to the display. If I hit the Restart Window Manager, nothing gets returned, but I can still type in the xterm that are already open; xload, xmem seem to update and working okay even in this state. But nothing new can be opened. After all this, if I kill the Exceed session, and reopen. I see my Linux box in the chooser (with correct load), I select the server, but then it sits there. No login screen will ever be returned. I have killed XDM and restarted it. I killed inetd and restarted it. but I cannot get any response out of XDM until I totally reboot the server. Once it has rebooted, all is working again. I do not run X on the console (Diamond Speedstar grin) so I am not sure if this is a problem with an Xserver (I use the default server (VGA or SVGA whatever it is)). Any ideas? Any thoughts? I have since gone back and reinstalled some of the old DEB packages (xbase, fvwm-common, xserver, xfont) from the Master CD v1.3.1, but have not had much time to test it. It happends randomly. It also happends to a friend of mine with a similar config. Thanks for your help, --Jay Barbee -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Kevin Traas wrote: : QUESTION: Is their a generic ip addressing scheme that should be used : within this company , since it is not connected in any way to the net. : Does it even matter? I guess I could use any address I want ... : : : There's an RFC on this, but I can't quote the number at the moment : This RFC defines the use of 10.0.0.0 or 192.168.0.0 for internal, private : networks. RFC 1918 : : QUESTION: I took a quick tour of their offices, and have noticed the hub : in the closet. The brand - David Systems, never heard of it myself... : Will I have any problems passing TCP/IP over this hub? IP and IPX can : exist together, cant they ??? I don't have any information on this hub : other than it's name... I've heard claims that some Novell specific hardware won't do anything but IPX. I've never encountered this myself. (anyone know if it's true?? FUD??) AFAIK, a hub should be doing all its work at the hardware level anyway. : : Can't help you on this. IP IPX do coexist without a problem and if the : hub you mention is indeed only a hub, then it won't be a problem. : However, if it's a router, then it will have to support IP as well as IPX. : : Later, : Kevin : -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re[2]: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Sen Nagata wrote: : about private ip address spaces: : : Address Allocation for Private Internets is rfc 1597 : http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt : : people may want to have a look at: : : http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/rfc1597.html : : which also talks about: : : Network 10 Considered Harmful : (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified) which is rfc 1627 : http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt : : -sen Both of these RFCs are obseleted by RFC 1918 -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Email only users, and Bulk User Adds/Removes
On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Ferenc Kiraly wrote: Hi! Is there a way to establish an email only account? Also is there a way One thing you can do is give the user /bin/false insted of a shell. Just out of curiosity, is it bad to assign users a shell of /dev/null ? I was paranoid and thought the /bin/false might one day have a hole/flaw in it. I figured /dev/null could never be used as a shell. Am I wrong? mike... Micro$oft, what do you want to spend today? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
make-kpkg - minor irritant compiling custom kernel
Hi, I'm trying to compile a custom kernel (2.0.31) for my machine using make-kpkg (3.01). I came across a minor irritant. Here is what I do - 1. make config|xconfig|menuconfig 2. Edit drivers/sound/local.h and add #define DESKPROXL (my machine. drivers/sound/Readme.cards asks me to add this line after make config. 3. make-kpkg -revision Custom.X.Y kernel_image To my irritation, make-kpkg runs make config again in some kind of automated mode. And drivers/sound/local.h is re-created without the #define for DESKPROXL. Because of make-kpkg running make config again, I am unable to use (without some emlementary hacking of the Makefile in drivers/sound/) make-kpkg for creating custom kernels. Is make-kpkg supposed to behave this way? Thaths -- It was a tumultuous time for a nation. The clear beverage craze gave us all a reason to live. The information super highway showed the average person what some nerd thinks about Star Trek. And the taming of the dog continuted unabated. -- Homer J Simpson Sudhakar C13n (650) 937-2354 (O) International Websites Engineer (650) 940-1896 (H) http://people.netscape.com/thaths/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Re[2]: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
Following up my verbose message ... One place you can find all the RFCs in a browsable format is http://rfc.fh-koeln.de/doc/rfc/html/rfc.html I find using the browser a bit easier than ftping the RFCs from internic or wherever ... : On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Sen Nagata wrote: : : : about private ip address spaces: : : : : Address Allocation for Private Internets is rfc 1597 : : http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt : : : : people may want to have a look at: : : : : http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/rfc1597.html : : : : which also talks about: : : : : Network 10 Considered Harmful : : (Some Practices Shouldn't be Codified) which is rfc 1627 : : http://www.internic.net/rfc/rfc1597.txt : : : : -sen : : Both of these RFCs are obseleted by RFC 1918 -- Nathan Norman MidcoNet - 410 South Phillips Avenue - Sioux Falls, SD 57104 phone: (605) 334-4454 fax: (605) 335-1173 mailto://[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.midco.net PGP Key ID: 0xA33B86E9 - Public key available at keyservers PGP Key fingerprint: CE03 10AF 3281 1858 9D32 C2AB 936D C472 -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Majordomo
I have installed majordomo on my system. Everything compiled okay, I can subscribe/unsubscribe/etc... but when I try and send mail to the list, it bounces back with an 'unknown user' error, as if instead of processing the include command, it is treating it like a username. My /etc/aliases looks like listname: :include:/usr/local/bin/majordomo/lists/listname I have checked the listname file, and it contains only addresses. Any thoughts? thanks, -Steve Saletta (liberty.user.msu.edu) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
I've heard claims that some Novell specific hardware won't do anything but IPX. I've never encountered this myself. (anyone know if it's true?? FUD??) AFAIK, a hub should be doing all its work at the hardware level anyway. If it's just an ethernet hub, it never gets beyond the Physical and Data OSI layers. Protocols work above that in the Network (IP) and Transport (TCP) layers Later, Kevin Traas -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot.
Jay, I am a little confused. If you are running Exceed from an NT box and connecting to debian, then exceed is the xserver. You don't need an xserver on the debian box (or even fonts, for that matter). If you are also using the window manager on debian, then you have to be using single window mode in exceed. I use exceed but I let nt be the window manager. It's a lot simpler and your mouse clicks and movements don't have to go over the network. How about a little more detail on the setup... jim -- From: Jay Barbee[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 8:34 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject:XDM seem to hang until I reboot. Hello all, I am running a Debian 1.3.1 install with the basics for X. I use xdm to login via WinNT/Exceed v5. I have used dftp up update all the X based stuff from ftp.debian.org and I use afterstep as my window manager. What I am having problems with is a lockup or hangup from XDM. If I am running a X session, it is possible to hangup, and I cannot seem to run anything. I cannot click on an XTERM button, or even run xterm if I have a free window up. When I do run a new 'xterm ' from an available window, after a certain time it tells me it cannot write to the display. If I hit the Restart Window Manager, nothing gets returned, but I can still type in the xterm that are already open; xload, xmem seem to update and working okay even in this state. But nothing new can be opened. After all this, if I kill the Exceed session, and reopen. I see my Linux box in the chooser (with correct load), I select the server, but then it sits there. No login screen will ever be returned. I have killed XDM and restarted it. I killed inetd and restarted it. but I cannot get any response out of XDM until I totally reboot the server. Once it has rebooted, all is working again. I do not run X on the console (Diamond Speedstar grin) so I am not sure if this is a problem with an Xserver (I use the default server (VGA or SVGA whatever it is)). Any ideas? Any thoughts? I have since gone back and reinstalled some of the old DEB packages (xbase, fvwm-common, xserver, xfont) from the Master CD v1.3.1, but have not had much time to test it. It happends randomly. It also happends to a friend of mine with a similar config. Thanks for your help, --Jay Barbee -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Linux Java (1.1.3) question...
I have a question that has not been asked on the java-linux list, but has not been answered. So I'm asking here :) I am running Debian stable, and using the JDK package downloaded from Hamm. I have had no problems until this... I'm writing a RMI program. It works on other platforms (Win NT, HP UX). But when I try to start the server on Linux, I get an AccessException. According to the docs, an AccessException occurs when the server tries to register on a remote machine - this is not occuring, I am registering on my local machine (using the host name that I set, and confirmed using the gethostname command). The programs compile fine - they simply don't register. And yes, I am running rmiregistry Any ideas or general comments. If anyone wants to help, I can email some source code (since it's not completely topical to this list, I won't post it unless a great number of people ask). Thanks... -- ++ | Andrew Akins | | Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.ames.net/igor/| | Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.cms-gt.com/| ++ | May your villages remain ignorant of tax collectors, and may your | | sons be many and ugly and strong and willing workers, and may your | | daughters be few and beautiful and excellent providers of love | | gifts from eminent families that live very far away, and may your | | lives be blessed by the beauty that has touched mine. | |- Number Ten Ox, Bridge of Birds | ++ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, David Oswald wrote: QUESTION: Is their a generic ip addressing scheme that should be used within this company , since it is not connected in any way to the net. Does it even matter? I guess I could use any address I want ... Others had already told about the RFC. What I'd recommend is to setup a dhcpd. This makes the client install as generic as possible and makes the client settings much more controllable by the server. It's available as a debian package and must be manually configured by editing the (rather well commented) config file. Nils -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: 2.6.3ia Charset: noconv iQB1AwUBNI2bTVptA0IhBm0NAQHaMgMAqiIqcRejo5w8DSOFLK2CJ+PwcihtAPpS xRpqnN0DRJrRg+ntPKNssyuTslp+NRFGGo6odl4g2Rb+/7X+mScjNAXIjuezEGmS Yzh+3u6podS9rjUFhFjLlBziGJ3r9GXf =nR6X -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
umsdos
I have to install Linux onto a umsdos file system on one of my computers, even though I know it isn't a suggested practice. What steps should I take to install a fresh debian system onto umsdos. I have a up and running Debian system to make a new kernel and what not. Thanks for any info or pointers to info. Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot.
I am a little confused. If you are running Exceed from an NT box and connecting to debian, then exceed is the xserver. You don't need an xserver on the debian box (or even fonts, for that matter). Humm, let me clearify... I guess I do not need an xserver, but it wants to be installed when you select the xbase. I will try to remove it. Let me see if that helps. If you are also using the window manager on debian, then you have to be using single window mode in exceed. I have exceed setup so that I do see a single root window (which it the backdrop of the xserver, and I have all of my xwindows pop up in that one root window. I can easily minimize it if I don't want to look at X. It has never failed to open exceed and get a list of available XDM servers (there is only one). It is actually exceed's chooser that shows up, not debian's. Once this is selected, they next thing should be the Login screen, that never appears. I use exceed but I let nt be the window manager. It's a lot simpler and your mouse clicks and movements don't have to go over the network. Might be something that I need to look at, but seeing that I do not get anything back makes me think something else is hanging other than the window manager. I will make a note to try that. How about a little more detail on the setup... Most everything should be default. I callup afterstep from the '.xsession' file, and I have made minor modification to .steprc and exceed configuration. Exceed has XDMCP is set to Broadcast and I have the IP of the linux box in the xdmcp.txt host file. I will try removing the Xserver and Xfonts, but if I am not using them in the first place, I am going to assume this will not correct the problem. --Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Partitioning
Lets back up for a moment. The drives themselves care not how they are used. In scsi (and I suspect IDE), the drive responds to the block address and knows nothing about partitions, logical or otherwise (or for that matter, clusters). It is the device level driver code on the actual interface that talks to the drive. This interface 'speaks' 'block addresses'. The partition structure (primary, extended, logical) are all abstractions of the 'physical' drive. Although most people don't think of them this way they actually are the top level of the filesystem. What we typically call the filesystem then is only an instance of a particular subset within this top level abstraction. Though it depends upon what one might mean by the term knows, the PC BIOS _IS_ the implementation of this particular filesystem abstraction. The decisions as to how to deal with the initial design limitations from the original and even subsequent BIOS designs is what has given us this nightmare design. Linux, for very practical reasons, chooses to honor this brain dead, convoluted drive abstraction. There is NOTHING about Linux that requires any of these screwy kludges except that Linux must live within whatever limitations are imposed by the BIOS with respect to booting. The practical reasons include such things as people wanting to be able to have bootable non-Linux operating systems on their drives. As to lilo -- IT IS lilo that has the problem. While under Linux, lilo determines and stores the block locations for the files that it must access to boot the machine, when the boot occurs those blocks must be accessible through BIOS calls. It is the limitations of the BIOS calls that started this whole mess! I repeat: There is _nothing_ inherent in Linux that requires any of this grew like topsy, screwball design. The m68k versions of Linux have no such concepts as primary, extended, or logical partitions. I have not actually seen it done, but I believe that if one connects a scsi drive from a PC to an Amiga Linux scsi bus, that Linux does recognize the drive and its' structure. As can no doubt be discerned, I detest the basic PC design. I would be willing to defer to your claims that I am wrong concerning primary partitions being visible in DOS, but am having some trouble with that. My experience with DOS and Windoz is _very_ limited. Still however, of the few dozens of machines that I have seen with more than one primary partition (not including the extended partition which is also, as I understand, a primary partition), I have never seen drive letters assigned for more than one such partition (at least on the boot drive). best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Please note [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work-- ==and yes eventually I'll get the mailer figured out== from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Gertjan Klein wrote: bleach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul, Linux doesn't recognize or even care about primary partitions. fdisk, cfdisk, etc. recognize them but only because BIOS deals with drives and partitions in this fashion. Wrong. BIOS has no notion of partitions at all. Linux _does_ 'care' about partitions - it just isn't particular about which _type_ of partition it is installed to (like you wrote). The reason why there can only be four primary partitions is due to the design of the PC BIOS. Wrong again - it is due to the design of the partition table, and was (presumably) done by MS. It has _nothing_ to to with the BIOS. When they ran into the limitation [*], they created extended partitions, of which there can be as many as you like. Even lilo ignores the DOS, Windoz, OS2, characteristic of not seeing the inactive primary partitions (of course OS2 boot manager effectively does also). Wrong again - DOS and Windows have no problem whatsoever with seeing inactive primary partitions. I have four primary DOS partitions on my first HD, and DOS sees all of them and assigns them drive letters. Only OS/2 has this silly limitation, and OS/2's Boot Manager 'hides' (changes the type from 4 to 0x14, or 6 to 0x16) all other primary DOS partitions when booting one. The reason LILO doesn't care about partition tables is that it creates a list of the physical locations of sectors to load when booting. Gertjan. [*] Actually, the real reason extended partitions were created was as a quick fix for the (then) MS-DOS limitation of not being able to access disks that were larger than 32 MB. They removed this limitation around DOS 4.0, IIRC. -- Gertjan Klein [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Boot Control home page: http://www.xs4all.nl/~gklein/bcpage.html -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?
RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot.
Umm... Sounds like you have things setup pretty well. I assume you have allow server reset enabled in the xconfig window mode screen. Never mind, since you are using an external window manager that probably doesn't apply... It appears that xdm does not get your request to be managed. I'll have to do a little research on this mode of xdm. I don't use xdm here at work. Some others do use it with CDE on a dec unix box. I'll give them a call to see how their xdm is set up... jim -- From: Jay Barbee[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 9:30 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject:RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot. I am a little confused. If you are running Exceed from an NT box and connecting to debian, then exceed is the xserver. You don't need an xserver on the debian box (or even fonts, for that matter). Humm, let me clearify... I guess I do not need an xserver, but it wants to be installed when you select the xbase. I will try to remove it. Let me see if that helps. If you are also using the window manager on debian, then you have to be using single window mode in exceed. I have exceed setup so that I do see a single root window (which it the backdrop of the xserver, and I have all of my xwindows pop up in that one root window. I can easily minimize it if I don't want to look at X. It has never failed to open exceed and get a list of available XDM servers (there is only one). It is actually exceed's chooser that shows up, not debian's. Once this is selected, they next thing should be the Login screen, that never appears. I use exceed but I let nt be the window manager. It's a lot simpler and your mouse clicks and movements don't have to go over the network. Might be something that I need to look at, but seeing that I do not get anything back makes me think something else is hanging other than the window manager. I will make a note to try that. How about a little more detail on the setup... Most everything should be default. I callup afterstep from the '.xsession' file, and I have made minor modification to .steprc and exceed configuration. Exceed has XDMCP is set to Broadcast and I have the IP of the linux box in the xdmcp.txt host file. I will try removing the Xserver and Xfonts, but if I am not using them in the first place, I am going to assume this will not correct the problem. --Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Debian/WindowsNT partitioning
If you can boot a DOS session, you might want to try doing a fdisk/mbr on that drive. Not being sure just exactly what you are trying to do though, realize that issuing the above command _will_ wipe out everything on the drive. If you do run the command, it would be a pretty good idea to take a look at your CMOS settings. Besides all of the other stuff recommended for Linux operation (like no shadow ROM, no BIOS virus checking, no BIOS APS, etc.), be sure that the BIOS is set to handle the size of that drive (ie: LBA or its equivalent should be enabled). best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Please note [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work-- --nor does anyone@anyhost.wconsult.com-- ==and yes eventually I'll get the mailer figured out== from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Marc Fleureck wrote: Hi, System: PC with SCSI Quantum hard disk 3G and NT4 installed I have created 3 primary partitions of type NTFS I would like to create 2 linux partitions: system+swap but cfdisk gives an error when writing the partition table: FATAL ERROR: Cannot seek on disk drive I am able to recover using the NT4 disk administrator. Regards, Marc -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Majordomo
Steve, What mailer are you running on your system? If you are running sendmail, have you run the newaliases command (or sendmail -bi) to reinitialize the alias file? If you are running some other mailer, I'm sure that there is a command that will do this for you. Steve Mayer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve Saletta wrote: I have installed majordomo on my system. Everything compiled okay, I can subscribe/unsubscribe/etc... but when I try and send mail to the list, it bounces back with an 'unknown user' error, as if instead of processing the include command, it is treating it like a username. My /etc/aliases looks like listname: :include:/usr/local/bin/majordomo/lists/listname I have checked the listname file, and it contains only addresses. Any thoughts? thanks, -Steve Saletta (liberty.user.msu.edu) -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Majordomo
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Steve Saletta wrote: I have installed majordomo on my system. Everything compiled okay, I can subscribe/unsubscribe/etc... but when I try and send mail to the list, it bounces back with an 'unknown user' error, as if instead of processing the include command, it is treating it like a username. My /etc/aliases looks like listname: :include:/usr/local/bin/majordomo/lists/listname If it's installed from a .deb package, why is there anything in /usr/local/bin ? You should find stuff in /var/lib/majordomo (also check error messages in /var/log/majordomo ) Which mail transport agent are you using ? smail , sendmail, exim ? The installation from the .deb files seems to be most compatible with sendmail. I have checked the listname file, and it contains only addresses. Any thoughts? Do local addresses work and not remote? Or vice versa ? or neither ? If you are running debian, we'll get it figured out ! G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: /afs timeouts from /etc/cron.daily
Unfortunately, it's export restricted. However, you call always check the linux-afs faq (and get on the mailing list) at URL: http://www.umlug.umd.edu/linuxafs/ Nils Rennebarth wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 9 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I recently installed the AFS file system on a Debian Linux machine Where is AFS for Linux available? -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: questions: Non-internet connected IP Address default ???
Have not done this myself so... First, IPX and IP can co-exist and Linux speaks both. Again, I don't do IPX but possibly the Linux capability might aid you in setting this up incrementally. No, idea about the hub though. It should be willing to accept the Linux box as a valid novell machine however. The IP address offered by Linux during installation is one of the addresses that is designated for local net only use. Internet machines are supposed to recognize that these addresses should not be promulgated (this is actually not so much of a problem anymore since most dialup access is now via dynamic IP assignment). best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Please note [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work-- --nor does anyone@anyhost.wconsult.com-- ==and yes eventually I'll get the mailer figured out== from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, David Oswald wrote: Hello all ... I have convinced a client of mine who is novell IPX based to install a debian linux machine into their small company. (all they have ever used is Novell for file and print shares). Initially , this new debian machine will be used to serve up internal web pages and documentation. There are other tasks to be performed based upon my success with the installation of the machine, and related web pages. I will be working on this project diligently, as they are somewhat apprehensive a free software package that can do all that stuff our novell box did, and more for FREE !!! I will be needing to install TCPIP stacks on their client machines. QUESTION: Is their a generic ip addressing scheme that should be used within this company , since it is not connected in any way to the net. Does it even matter? I guess I could use any address I want ... QUESTION: I took a quick tour of their offices, and have noticed the hub in the closet. The brand - David Systems, never heard of it myself... Will I have any problems passing TCP/IP over this hub? IP and IPX can exist together, cant they ??? I don't have any information on this hub other than it's name... -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot.
Umm... Sounds like you have things setup pretty well. I assume you have allow server reset enabled in the xconfig window mode screen. Never mind, since you are using an external window manager that probably doesn't apply... It appears that xdm does not get your request to be managed. I'll have to do a little research on this mode of xdm. I don't use xdm here at work. Some others do use it with CDE on a dec unix box. I'll give them a call to see how their xdm is set up... jim Jim, I am not sure about the server reset. If it is a default setting, It is there. I will double check. I believe there is something in it not being about to write to the display. But it is NOT on the exceed side. It is something on the Linux side that is preventing it. Another quark about the Exceed/Linux thing is that Exceed runs off of a SMB share on that linux box. I have had it like this for more than a year when I used Slackware, but only a month or so with debian. I am not sure it has anything to do with it, but I thought I would note it to you. There are several xdm logs that seem to repeat themselves. My only problem is I am not sure if the times correspond to the time it seemed to die. I will look at them and if they are worth anything, I will bounce it to you tonight. While it might appear the XDM does not get my request to be managed, remember that I have had a hangup while actually running a session. What I have open at the time runs fine, however, I cannot open another window or click on any of the buttonbars to do anything. Thanks Jim for your quick response... --Jay Barbee -- From: Jay Barbee[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 9:30 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject: RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot. I am a little confused. If you are running Exceed from an NT box and connecting to debian, then exceed is the xserver. You don't need an xserver on the debian box (or even fonts, for that matter). Humm, let me clearify... I guess I do not need an xserver, but it wants to be installed when you select the xbase. I will try to remove it. Let me see if that helps. If you are also using the window manager on debian, then you have to be using single window mode in exceed. I have exceed setup so that I do see a single root window (which it the backdrop of the xserver, and I have all of my xwindows pop up in that one root window. I can easily minimize it if I don't want to look at X. It has never failed to open exceed and get a list of available XDM servers (there is only one). It is actually exceed's chooser that shows up, not debian's. Once this is selected, they next thing should be the Login screen, that never appears. I use exceed but I let nt be the window manager. It's a lot simpler and your mouse clicks and movements don't have to go over the network. Might be something that I need to look at, but seeing that I do not get anything back makes me think something else is hanging other than the window manager. I will make a note to try that. How about a little more detail on the setup... Most everything should be default. I callup afterstep from the '.xsession' file, and I have made minor modification to .steprc and exceed configuration. Exceed has XDMCP is set to Broadcast and I have the IP of the linux box in the xdmcp.txt host file. I will try removing the Xserver and Xfonts, but if I am not using them in the first place, I am going to assume this will not correct the problem. --Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
in need
Can someone send me the binary to make a rescue disk that uses krnimage 2.0.30 or newer? or tell me where to get one! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dunc pppd configuration script
Hi John; One question that I have: Is it true that ALL ISPs that use chap or pap authentication also do not require an initial login? I don't personally know of any exceptions but I also don't see any technical reason why it would not be possible to use chap following login. It also seems to me that there are three ways to initiate ppp for login type ISPs. The first is that upon login, the host starts the LCP negotiation, 2) The host waits for a \n and then starts negotiation, 3) the host requires a specific command after login to start ppp. Though I have not seen or even heard of this, I presume that another possible scenerio is that the host monitors for an incomming LCP negotiation. The non-login modes are probably much more straight forward (though I note that bo examples and docs did not seem to even recognize that there was such a thing). Is there any chance that there is a non-authenticated ppp initiation followed by a login in use? Richards multiple provider solution I will have to have a look at that. I seem to have it solved now but have not yet tried under other user accounts... so I might be under the illusion that I have it working right. John, I am NOT ragging on you (or anyone else really). While Linux has the potential to meet anyone's needs better than anything else available, trying to produce packages and configuration utilities that can deal with all of the variation (or even most of the common ones) is anything but trivial. [and yes, I know that my anyone's needs claim is a bit far fetched. For example people whoes needs include always having compatibility with M$ product files will find Linux falling short often--how often depends upon how often M$ releases a new version or update] I think that anyone that even casually watches the Linux development effort just about has to be in awe of the accomplishments. The rapidity with which developers seem to deal with new information is stunning. best, -bill [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --Please note [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not work-- --nor does anyone@anyhost.wconsult.com-- ==and yes eventually I'll get the mailer figured out== from a 1996 Micro$loth ad campaign: The less you know about computers the more you want Micro$oft! See! They do get some things right! -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Majordomo
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Steve Saletta wrote: I am using smail, and neither local nor remote addresses work. My problem doesn't seem to be with majordomo, but rather with the :include: feature of smail, and yes, I have ran sendmail -bi. This may be do the same thing as newaliases, I don't know Is listname: :include:/path/to/file the right format? Yes, for sendmail at least. Unfortunately, I don't know how to use smail with majorodomo. I know that there are some things you have to do differently and that (as you can see) the debian installation doesn't work out of the box with smail. From /usr/doc/majordomo/README: 3) I run smail. How do I set up majordomo to work in this environment? Just set $sendmail_command to /bin/smail in your majordomo.cf. It has been reported that by default smail does not understand the :include: syntax, and that can be fixed by adding the following to /etc/smail/directors: aliasinclude: driver=aliasinclude, nobody; copysecure, copyowners, (Thanks to Steve Casey [EMAIL PROTECTED] for this information.) G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tucson,AZ http://www.physics.arizona.edu/~lapeyre -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot.
Jay, I did some fiddling and made some calls. I found a few quirkey things but don't know if they would affect you. The guys here use xdm-query. At first it gives you an error message about xdm request denied. Then you clear the key field (communications screen - configure) and everything works. That's moot though since you get a session. Sounds now like it is something with the window manager. Sorry I couldn't be more help. I just don't have any experience using those modes. As an aside, the guys over in the cold mill use HWM in single window mode and still run cde!?? I haven't figured that one out yet... Let me know if you find out anything else... jim -- From: Jay Barbee[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 10:02 AM To: Lewis, James M. Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject:RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot. Umm... Sounds like you have things setup pretty well. I assume you have allow server reset enabled in the xconfig window mode screen. Never mind, since you are using an external window manager that probably doesn't apply... It appears that xdm does not get your request to be managed. I'll have to do a little research on this mode of xdm. I don't use xdm here at work. Some others do use it with CDE on a dec unix box. I'll give them a call to see how their xdm is set up... jim Jim, I am not sure about the server reset. If it is a default setting, It is there. I will double check. I believe there is something in it not being about to write to the display. But it is NOT on the exceed side. It is something on the Linux side that is preventing it. Another quark about the Exceed/Linux thing is that Exceed runs off of a SMB share on that linux box. I have had it like this for more than a year when I used Slackware, but only a month or so with debian. I am not sure it has anything to do with it, but I thought I would note it to you. There are several xdm logs that seem to repeat themselves. My only problem is I am not sure if the times correspond to the time it seemed to die. I will look at them and if they are worth anything, I will bounce it to you tonight. While it might appear the XDM does not get my request to be managed, remember that I have had a hangup while actually running a session. What I have open at the time runs fine, however, I cannot open another window or click on any of the buttonbars to do anything. Thanks Jim for your quick response... --Jay Barbee -- From: Jay Barbee[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 1997 9:30 AM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Cc: The recipient's address is unknown. Subject: RE: XDM seem to hang until I reboot. I am a little confused. If you are running Exceed from an NT box and connecting to debian, then exceed is the xserver. You don't need an xserver on the debian box (or even fonts, for that matter). Humm, let me clearify... I guess I do not need an xserver, but it wants to be installed when you select the xbase. I will try to remove it. Let me see if that helps. If you are also using the window manager on debian, then you have to be using single window mode in exceed. I have exceed setup so that I do see a single root window (which it the backdrop of the xserver, and I have all of my xwindows pop up in that one root window. I can easily minimize it if I don't want to look at X. It has never failed to open exceed and get a list of available XDM servers (there is only one). It is actually exceed's chooser that shows up, not debian's. Once this is selected, they next thing should be the Login screen, that never appears. I use exceed but I let nt be the window manager. It's a lot simpler and your mouse clicks and movements don't have to go over the network. Might be something that I need to look at, but seeing that I do not get anything back makes me think something else is hanging other than the window manager. I will make a note to try that. How about a little more detail on the setup... Most everything should be default. I callup afterstep from the '.xsession' file, and I have made minor modification to .steprc and exceed configuration. Exceed has XDMCP is set to Broadcast and I have the IP of the linux box in the xdmcp.txt host file. I will try removing the Xserver and Xfonts, but if I am not using them in the first place, I am going to assume this will not correct the problem. --Jay -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
How to get slrn colored in xterm ?
hi all, I´m using slrn for reading news and do NOT want to change the app ;) Now, when starting slrn from within the standard linux terminal, I get that nifty color-spreading frontend. But when started in an xterm, it looks sad monochrome. Does anyone know if can get colors in xterms, too -- and how? thanx, peter. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Debian needs guinea pigs
Do you have a little spare time? Do you have some extra hard drive space? Do you enjoy being the first to try something new? Do you want to be on a low volume mailing list (compared to debian-user)? Do you want to help debian become the most popular linux distribution? Do you want women to adore you? (ok, maybe we can't do this) If you answered yes to zero or more of the above, you're a perfect candidate to join the Debian Testing Group! We're looking for a few good guinea pigs in preparation of the Debian 2.0 release. Basically, we install as many times as possible (although one is more than enough), making sure all the programs work. If you are interested in joining, send me a short message detailing what you can do, and in a few days, you'll be added to our mailing list. New users are welcome! I've included a more detailed description of our testing process below to give you an idea of how this works. Brandon - Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know linux is great... it PGP: finger -l [EMAIL PROTECTED] does infinite loops in 5 seconds Phone: (757) 221-4847 --Linus Torvalds DEBIAN TESTING GROUP PROCESS The following document summarizes the methods used by the Debian Testing Group. Testing is primarily focused around the time when the distribution is Frozen before a release, but test reports are welcomed at any time either before the freeze or after it. All reports should be posted to: debian-testing@lists.debian.org, while all bugs should be reported according to: http://www.debian.org/Bugs;. I. Upgrade Install Testing The first type of testing to occur during this period is upgrade testing. The tester should attempt to point dselect from an older installation to a Debian mirror. Any error messages during the installation should be reported along with any work-arounds. Once the upgrade is complete, as many individual packages should be tested as possible (see section III). II. Base Install Testing The second type of testing involves an installation from scratch. This will usually involve creating the rescue, root, and base disk (or any of the other options, including the zero floppy install). Once this is complete, the tester should attempt to install any desired packages and then test as many individual packages as possible (see section III). III. Individual Package Testing A list of packages and their checklist will be kept in one large file. This should be kept at http://bhmit1.home.ml.org/deb/checklist.html;. If you find a package that fails an item in the checklist, please report it as a bug. Once you have verified that all test have passed, you can report the package as being tested. If you are only able to test some of the items in the checklist, you may report this too, but specify what you have tested. The checklist will initially be created by the maintainer. However, anyone is free to add to or modify a checklist by sending e-mail to the testers mailing list or [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Note that there will also be a checklist for all packages, and a checklist for groups of packages. If the package belongs to a group, this will be an item in it's list. During a testing period, a list of untested packages will periodically be posted to the testing list. Copies will also be sent to debian-devel (less frequently) so that any developers can assist in the testing process. IV. Testing Report Comments are placed in [ ]. This report is an example only. Report Information: Name: Brandon Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: December 8, 1997 Target: 2.0 (ftp.debian.org) Source: 1.3 [ or base install / package testing ] Method: dselect - ftp [ or base disk, zero floppy ] Machine Information: [ note, I'm trying not post unimportant info. ] Platform: Pentium 90 Memory: 16 Megs Cd rom: ide SCSI: aha152x Network: ne2000 Modem:33.6 Hayes compat Sound:SB 16 Video:Stealth 64 (1 meg) General Installation Notes / Error List: [ not needed for package only reports. ] Libc5-libc6 HOWTO worked without a problem. Successful Package List: bash sendmail pine pico Failed Packages List (bug reports filed for below packages): [ again note, this is fictional. ] apsfilter failed install, caught in infinite loop bc option -l failed wuftp did not limit after 10 connections -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to get slrn colored in xterm ?
Add the following line to your ~/.Xdefaults or ~/.Xresources, depending on which one you use: xterm*customization:-color You may also choose to add it to /etc/X11/Xresources, to make it a system-wide default. Thanks, Dennis -- dpk [EMAIL PROTECTED], Systems/Network | work: 353.4844 Division of Engineering Computing Services | page: 222.5875 On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Peter Prohaska wrote: hi all, I´m using slrn for reading news and do NOT want to change the app ;) Now, when starting slrn from within the standard linux terminal, I get that nifty color-spreading frontend. But when started in an xterm, it looks sad monochrome. Does anyone know if can get colors in xterms, too -- and how? thanx, peter. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to get slrn colored in xterm ?
I too faced this situation when using a lynx browser with slang compiled in on my (Red Hat 4.2) system. The supposedly color xterm wasn't, so I got around that by running lynx from an rxvt. There it looks like it's supposed to (I think) hth kevin Peter Prohaska wrote: hi all, I´m using slrn for reading news and do NOT want to change the app ;) Now, when starting slrn from within the standard linux terminal, I get that nifty color-spreading frontend. But when started in an xterm, it looks sad monochrome. Does anyone know if can get colors in xterms, too -- and how? thanx, peter. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: How to get slrn colored in xterm ?
dpk wrote: Add the following line to your ~/.Xdefaults or ~/.Xresources, depending on which one you use: xterm*customization:-color You may also choose to add it to /etc/X11/Xresources, to make it a system-wide default. Actually, though that will enable color for everything else, it will not help slrn or other slang-based programs. For those, you have to either use the command line option they have that enables color (for slrn, -C), or you need to set the COLORTERM environment variable. Here is an example of how I set the latter in my /etc/zshrc: # Set COLORTERM for s-lang programs if this is a color terminal if [[ $TERM = xterm ]] || [[ $TERM = linux ]]; then export COLORTERM=y fi For bash, you'd want something like this: (untested) # Set COLORTERM for s-lang programs if this is a color terminal if [ $TERM = xterm -o $TERM = linux ]; then COLORTERM=y export COLORTERM fi -- see shy jo -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
dselect on unstable dist., how?
I am finally making the transition to the libc6. I am following the HOW-TO but am having a hard time finding the recommended files like 'libreadline2' at ftp.debian.org (although I found libreadlineg2). Beyond file location problems I would like to not use dpkg and use dselect instead but I am having a hard time pointing dselect to the unstable distribution. I keep getting, Warning: Could not find a Packages file in unstable/binary-i386 This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link then the dselect update procedure throws an error due to no package file. Furthermore, I downloaded and installed dpkg-1.4.0.19 and dpkg-1.4.9 from unstable but I still have the same problems. I have poked through the arquives on this one but didn't see anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Alex Panagides Ceara, Brazil -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: dselect on unstable dist., how?
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Alexis S. Panagides wrote: I am finally making the transition to the libc6. I am following the HOW-TO but am having a hard time finding the recommended files like 'libreadline2' at ftp.debian.org (although I found libreadlineg2). Beyond file location problems I would like to not use dpkg and use dselect instead but I am having a hard time pointing dselect to the unstable distribution. I keep getting, Using dselect to upgrade libreadline2 is likely to cause you grief. Many of the older libc5-based libraries are now in the oldlibs section of the archive. Warning: Could not find a Packages file in unstable/binary-i386 This may not be a problem if the directory is a symbolic link then the dselect update procedure throws an error due to no package file. Furthermore, I downloaded and installed dpkg-1.4.0.19 and dpkg-1.4.9 from unstable but I still have the same problems. I have poked through the arquives on this one but didn't see anything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://www.gate.net/~storm/FAQ/libc5-libc6-Mini-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.5 holds the answer to your questions. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Problem installing Debian 1.3
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question for you... What happens to the Linux partitions sitting in a extended partition if the extended partition gets accidently _trashed_? (like from a virus) I assume it does the same thing as trashing a primary partition ... FUBAR Luck, Dwarf -- _-_-_-_-_-_- _-_-_-_-_-_-_- aka Dale Scheetz Phone: 1 (904) 656-9769 Flexible Software 11000 McCrackin Road e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tallahassee, FL 32308 _-_-_-_-_-_- If you don't see what you want, just ask _-_-_-_-_-_-_- -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: CGI Error
On Mon, 8 Dec 1997, Paul Miller wrote: Alright, this is really weird. After adding those lines it ran fine and now it runs w/o those lines.. maybe my permissions were wrong, but I'm sure they were 755 root/root. hmm.. Anyhow, now it only runs in the /cgi-bin and not the user's directories, so the problem is probably suEXEC since it controls cgi execution in user dirs, right? ... what a mess. Can't help you here. I don't run Apache, and my server always runs cgis in user homedirectories as the respective user (if I allow cgi execution for that user at all), so I don't need suEXEC. 1. Check that cgi scripts not in /cgi-bin/ are allowed at all. 2. (only a thought) cd to the servers document root. su to www-data. cd to the directory where this script is. Run suEXEC with this script (maybe suexec scritpt.pl ?). Also I believe you will get better answers in a apache or cgi-authoring newsgroup or on the apache homepage. Luck, Martin -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: PAS CD-ROM
Hi, Kevin J Poorman wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone else had a Pro Audio Spectrum (16) working with there Debian box and more importantly if they have gotten the cd-rom to work with it off the cd-rom port on the card I have gotten the sound to work but not the cdrom ... what I need to figiure out is the device name ...IE /dev/cdrom (It's not that one) ... Thanks. -Kevin, kc5vxy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Col, 3:23 I have not used the sound much, but I have a Chinon 545 CDROM drive working through the SCSI port. The 1.3.1 distribution kernel reads it fine. I believe the device file name is /dev/scd0. Note, I believe the bandwidth of the port is severly limited. I once considered adding another SCSI device, but decided against it. My CD is a 2X. I do not believe one much faster would work well. Hope this helps. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Proxy Server
I am doing work for a small township that has 5 people working there that would like internet access and email. Is there a way to give them access with only one modem connection with Linux? I know Wingate will do this, but is there some sort of proxy arrangement that will do the same thing on Linux? I am sure someone has done this before. Thanks, Steve Stephen Millard Websmith Enterprises Inc. Harrisburg, Pa. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
twin again
I got somewhat farther in hunting down twin, and some advice from their side. It seems that there are libc functions not present in our version. Particularly, unsigned int * _dl_find_hash(char *, char *, int , char *, int); ^^^ and for (erp = _dl_loaded_modules; erp; erp = erp-next) Is there a way to add these somehow? and some of the comments seemed to hint that these would be present in redhat. rick --- End of Forwarded Message -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: make-kpkg - minor irritant compiling custom kernel
Hi, There was a typo that caused the configuration to be done multiple times; I think in the latest version that has been fixed (I realize that may be little consolation to people running stable 1.3.1 rXXX). Unfortunately, to ease the task of people who maintain a kernel source on the local machine and install patches to keep the kernel uptodate, the configuration script runs make oldconfig to ensure that all the dependencies are in sync. Until now, I was not aware of any problems created by doing so: and thus indeed, make-kpkg is behaving as intended. What we may need here is to add a target to make-kpkg: namely, configure. In which case, you need to do: 1. make config|xconfig|menuconfig 1a. make-kpkg configure 2. Edit drivers/sound/local.h and add #define DESKPROXL 3. make-kpkg -revision Custom.X.Y kernel_image If you do step 1a, then make-kpkg shall not re-run the config again in step 3. Does this sound satisfactory? (most people skip steps 1a and 2, as before) manoj -- Wherever you go...There you are. Buckaroo Banzai Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.datasync.com/%7Esrivasta/ Key C7261095 fingerprint = CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: package update listing from dpkg ?
On Tue, Dec 09, 1997 at 10:54:02AM -0600, Ken Lauffenburger wrote: Hello, I checked the dpkg man page and the dpkg --help listing but could not find an answer: Is there an option or set of flags that can be passed to dpkg in order for it to provide a listing of installed packages that have been updated? I'm assuming there must be since dselect does this and it's simply a wrapper for dpkg, right? I would like to be able to just get the latest Packages.gz file and check for updates. I'm looking for a list of updated installed packages, not available (uninstalled) ones. Sort of, install the dpkg-mountable package, and then do this: /usr/lib/dpkg/methods/mountable/updated-packages status avail where status and avail are the status and available files - normally /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/available This returns a list of packages that you might want to go and FTP - very useful! Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org http://www.poboxes.com/adrian.bridgett | Because bloated, unstable PGP key available on public key servers | operating systems are from MS -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: Proxy Server
On Tue, 9 Dec 1997, Steve Millard wrote: I am doing work for a small township that has 5 people working there that would like internet access and email. Is there a way to give them access with only one modem connection with Linux? I know Wingate will do this, but is there some sort of proxy arrangement that will do the same thing on Linux? I am sure someone has done this before. Sure, Install Ip Masquarade in your linux box. Read the HOWTO on this one. regards, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Andre M. Varon Lasaltech Incorporated Technical Head Fax-Tel: (034)435-0836 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] web page: http://www.lasaltech.com/andre.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
Re: package update listing from dpkg ?
Ken Lauffenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I would like to be able to just get the latest Packages.gz file and check for updates. I'm looking for a list of updated installed packages, not available (uninstalled) ones. Ruari-diff does just that; it's currently in Incoming, until it's installed you can get it URL:http://thor.lib.chalmers.se/~jamest/ruari-diff/ -- James -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
