Re: APC UPS'es

1998-02-26 Thread Robert Moody
Gerardo Lamastra wrote:
 
 Well, we use a Linux powered server which is tied to the APC SmartUPS 1000
 and everything works right.
 I think you should not have any problem to configure the UPS; the
 genpowerd daemon is used, with the following command line:
 
 /sbin/genpowerd /dev/ttyS1 apc-advanced

Thanks that solves a lot of my problems. 

Cheers,

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Re: A simple problem with dselect ...

1998-02-26 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 10:44:17AM -0500, Nebu John Mathai wrote:
 I was just wondering how I would go about removing a single package from
 my Debian machine.
 
 I tried to remove a package and under Select... selected to remove the
 package. Then I went to Remove... and dselect removed almost every
 package I had installed since the beginning (including the one I had asked
 it for).
 
 I know I'm doing something stupid ... I just don't know what it is.

Some how those other packages must have gotten marked for removal.
It happened to me once -- dselect decided to remove half the system,
very annoying. I try to avoid using dselect anyway. You can remove a package
using

dpkg --remove package

If you mark a few things for removal in dselect, go to the command line
and run

dpkg --no-act --remove --pending

to see what would be removed.


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Macro expansion error in firewall.c (A variation on Signal 11 during kernel compilations?)

1998-02-26 Thread Raymond Rusk
Package: kernel-source-2.0.3
Version: 2.0.32-1

While testing my new Pentium II system for any occurrence of the
signal 11 error that plagued my old 486 and one of my office P200
PCs, I have come across a most perplexing oddity.  I see the macro
expansion error in firewall.c problem that I reported earlier for
kernel-source-2.0.30 (acknowledged Bug#16240) in seven out of
twenty-seven kernel compilations done so far using the loop:

#!/usr/bin/tcsh
cd /usr/src/linux
foreach i (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
foreach j (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
/usr/sbin/make-kpkg clean  /usr/local/log/log.$i$j
/usr/sbin/make-kpkg -revision=custom.1.11 kernel_image  
/usr/local/log/log.$i$j
rm /usr/src/kernel-image-2.0.32_custom.1.11_i386.deb
end
end

The end of the compilation log in these cases always looks like:

---Error message---
gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
-fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 
-malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -DMODVERSIONS -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -c 
firewall.c
firewall.c:151: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
firewall.c:152: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
firewall.c:153: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
firewall.c:154: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
firewall.c:155: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
make[5]: *** [firewall.o] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/net/core'
make[4]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/net/core'
make[3]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/net'
make[2]: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32'
make[1]: *** [build] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32'
make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2

Is there a random element to the compilation that I should investigate
or does this indicate a hardware problem?  BTW, in both systems where
I have seen the signal 11 problem it seems to result from inadequate
air flow across the motherboard.  With better ventilation, the problem
goes away or is reduced.

For completeness, I am using:
gcc  2.7.2.1-9
libc5-dev5.4.33-6
libg++27-dev 2.7.2.1-8
libg++27 2.7.2.1-8

Thanks,
Raymond

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#
# Automatically generated make config: don't edit
#

#
# Code maturity level options
#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODVERSIONS=y
CONFIG_KERNELD=y

#
# General setup
#
# CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION is not set
CONFIG_NET=y
# CONFIG_MAX_16M is not set
CONFIG_PCI=y
CONFIG_PCI_OPTIMIZE=y
# CONFIG_MCA is not set
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_AOUT=m
CONFIG_BINFMT_ELF=y
CONFIG_BINFMT_JAVA=m
CONFIG_KERNEL_ELF=y
# CONFIG_M386 is not set
# CONFIG_M486 is not set
CONFIG_M586=y
# CONFIG_M686 is not set
CONFIG_BIGPHYS_AREA=y

#
# Floppy, IDE, and other block devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_FD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE=y

#
# Please see Documentation/ide.txt for help/info on IDE drives
#
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD_IDE is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDETAPE=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDEFLOPPY=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDESCSI is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDE_PCMCIA is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640=y
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_CMD640_ENHANCED is not set
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RZ1000 is not set
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_TRITON=y
# CONFIG_IDE_CHIPSETS is not set

#
# Additional Block Devices
#
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_LOOP=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_MD=y
CONFIG_MD_LINEAR=m
CONFIG_MD_STRIPED=m
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_RAM=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_INITRD=y
CONFIG_BLK_DEV_XD=m
# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_HD is not set

#
# Networking options
#
CONFIG_FIREWALL=y
CONFIG_NET_ALIAS=y
CONFIG_INET=y
CONFIG_IP_FORWARD=y
# CONFIG_IP_MULTICAST is not set
CONFIG_SYN_COOKIES=y
CONFIG_RST_COOKIES=y
CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL=y
# CONFIG_IP_FIREWALL_VERBOSE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_MASQUERADE is not set
# CONFIG_IP_TRANSPARENT_PROXY is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ALWAYS_DEFRAG is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_IP_ROUTER is not set
CONFIG_NET_IPIP=m
CONFIG_IP_ALIAS=m
# CONFIG_ARPD is not set

#
# (it is safe to leave these untouched)
#
# CONFIG_INET_PCTCP is not set
CONFIG_INET_RARP=m
# CONFIG_NO_PATH_MTU_DISCOVERY is not set
CONFIG_IP_NOSR=y
# CONFIG_SKB_LARGE is not set

#
#  
#
CONFIG_IPX=m
CONFIG_ATALK=m
# CONFIG_AX25 is not set
# CONFIG_BRIDGE is not set
CONFIG_NETLINK=y
# CONFIG_RTNETLINK is not set

#
# SCSI support
#
# CONFIG_SCSI is not set

#
# Network device support
#
CONFIG_NETDEVICES=y
CONFIG_DUMMY=m
CONFIG_EQUALIZER=m
CONFIG_DLCI=m
CONFIG_DLCI_COUNT=24
CONFIG_DLCI_MAX=8
CONFIG_SDLA=m
# CONFIG_PLIP is not set
CONFIG_PPP=m

#
# CCP compressors for PPP are only built as 

Re: Macro expansion error in firewall.c (A variation on Signal 11 during kernel compilations?)

1998-02-26 Thread Raymond Rusk
Sorry, the .config file that I attached to my previous message was
from my office PC, not my Pentium II.  If it is important, I can
send the exact version.

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Raymond Rusk wrote:

 Package: kernel-source-2.0.3
 Version: 2.0.32-1
 
 While testing my new Pentium II system for any occurrence of the
 signal 11 error that plagued my old 486 and one of my office P200
 PCs, I have come across a most perplexing oddity.  I see the macro
 expansion error in firewall.c problem that I reported earlier for
 kernel-source-2.0.30 (acknowledged Bug#16240) in seven out of
 twenty-seven kernel compilations done so far using the loop:
 
 #!/usr/bin/tcsh
 cd /usr/src/linux
 foreach i (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
 foreach j (0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9)
 /usr/sbin/make-kpkg clean  /usr/local/log/log.$i$j
 /usr/sbin/make-kpkg -revision=custom.1.11 kernel_image  
 /usr/local/log/log.$i$j
 rm /usr/src/kernel-image-2.0.32_custom.1.11_i386.deb
 end
 end
 
 The end of the compilation log in these cases always looks like:
 
 ---Error message---
 gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 
 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-strength-reduce -pipe -m486 -malign-loops=2 
 -malign-jumps=2 -malign-functions=2 -DCPU=686 -DMODVERSIONS -DEXPORT_SYMTAB 
 -c firewall.c
 firewall.c:151: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
 firewall.c:152: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
 firewall.c:153: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
 firewall.c:154: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
 firewall.c:155: macro `_basic_version' used with just one arg
 make[5]: *** [firewall.o] Error 1
 make[5]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/net/core'
 make[4]: *** [first_rule] Error 2
 make[4]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/net/core'
 make[3]: *** [sub_dirs] Error 2
 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32/net'
 make[2]: *** [linuxsubdirs] Error 2
 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32'
 make[1]: *** [build] Error 2
 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/kernel-source-2.0.32'
 make: *** [stamp-image] Error 2
 
 Is there a random element to the compilation that I should investigate
 or does this indicate a hardware problem?  BTW, in both systems where
 I have seen the signal 11 problem it seems to result from inadequate
 air flow across the motherboard.  With better ventilation, the problem
 goes away or is reduced.
 
 For completeness, I am using:
 gcc  2.7.2.1-9
 libc5-dev5.4.33-6
 libg++27-dev 2.7.2.1-8
 libg++27 2.7.2.1-8
 
 Thanks,
 Raymond
 

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Re: root access and dselect | ftp

1998-02-26 Thread David Stern
On 25 Feb 1998 22:47:23 +0100, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Stern) writes:
  [..]
  This is why I was asking about dselect | ftp, because if I'm root, and 
  I'm running ftp via dselect, then isn't this exactly what you're 
  telling me not to do?
 
 Yes, but there is no known way to force the ftpclient to do such
 things. The client doesn't accept any commands and any data it gets is,
 well, data, so it is not executed, just written to disk.

Initially I thought that ftpd accepted commands, but now that I think 
about it a little more, I suppose it accepts data.  (at least for ftp 
clients, running ftpd in server mode on the net might be a different 
animal)

Running an ftp client as root seems to be an exception to the rule 
about not running as root.

Thanks for the clarification. :-)

p.s.: I won't make personal replies until my headers are up to snuff, 
which I'm working on.
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Re: root access and dselect | ftp

1998-02-26 Thread Craig Sanders
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, David Stern wrote:

 Running an ftp client as root seems to be an exception to the rule 
 about not running as root.

actually that rule isn't a general prohibition against doing anything
as root. it is advice about only running as root for system maintainence
tasks. upgrading the system using dselect certainly qualifies as system
maintainence.

the idea is that by running as a non-priviledged user you can minimise
the risk of problems, and also mimimise the severity of any problems
which occur. problems includes buggy software, user mistakes, and
malicious code (e.g. trojan horse programs or viruses)

e.g. if you accidentally type rm -rf / as root you blow away the whole
system. if you do it as a normal user the worst you can do is erase
your own home directoryand in most cases, will suffer no damage at
all because you will probably have noticed your mistake and hit Ctrl-C
before rm gets to your home dir.

another problem which you avoid by not running as root except when
necessary is the risk of trojans or virusesmalicious programs like
these can't affect your system if they don't have the permissions
required to modify files.


craig

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Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Richardson,Anthony

I'm trying to set up an anonymous ftp server.  Everything seems to be   
working except
ls or dir.  I copied /bin/ls to /home/ftp/bin/ls and set up permissions   
as described in the
ftpd man page.  When I type ls however I get:

   150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
  226 Transfer complete.

and then nothing.

nlist works.

Any ideas?  Thanks

Tony RIchardson


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trouble reinstalling pcmcia-related things

1998-02-26 Thread Sen Nagata
hello-

  to make a long story short, i've removed (not purged) my
pcmcia-cs (also pcmcia-source and pcmcia-modules) package and tried 
to reinstall it.  when i try to reinstall pcmcia-cs, i get:

   /lib/modules/2.0.32/misc/scc.o unresolved symbol

  i don't have any need for scc.o (AFAIK), and i dont have it
selected via modconf either.

  any pointers as to where i might go or what i might do to 
fix my set up?

-sen


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Re: mgetty voice/fax/data

1998-02-26 Thread shaul
I did not experienced with the kind of setup that you are talking about.
However, I wonder, perhaps mgetty-voice has something to do with what you want 
?
Have you tried the mgetty mailing list ?

If you look further into it, please keep us informed.

Thank you.


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how to get packages

1998-02-26 Thread Mike White
Can someone point me in the right direction to download packages? I'm 
not sure how to use ftp because I don't know how to connect to the 
internet with Debian. I'm not sure what packages I should download 
first. Thanks for any help.


John M. White
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Re: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Alan Su
Richardson,Anthony wrote (Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:01:00 -0500 ):
|
|I'm trying to set up an anonymous ftp server.  Everything seems to be   
|working except
|ls or dir.  I copied /bin/ls to /home/ftp/bin/ls and set up permissions   
|as described in the
|ftpd man page.  When I type ls however I get:
|
|   150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
|  226 Transfer complete.
|
|and then nothing.
|
|nlist works.
|
|Any ideas?  Thanks
|

Well, and idea, but I'm not sure if it's right or if this is going to
help.  I think that the problem is that /home/ftp/bin/ls depends on
libc.so.?.  Since anonymous ftp sessions run chroot'd to the ~ftp
directory, it can't see the shared library.

I tried making a /home/ftp/lib directory and putting a copy of
libc.so.5 there, but that didn't help.  Is my/our only recourse to
compile a statically-linked version of ls?

-alan


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Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)

1998-02-26 Thread Bob Hilliard
 You provided the following partition table:

Boot  Begin  Start  End   Blocks  Id  System
 /dev/hdc1 63   63   13097665457  82  Linux Swap
 /dev/hdc2   * 130977   130977  2588354  1228689  83  Linux native
 /dev/hdc32322431  2588355  6684362  2048004   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
 /dev/hdc46386687  6684363  8418815  867226+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M

 (v)erify gives:
 Warning: partition 2 overlays partition 3.
  partition 3 overlays partition 4.
  60 unallocated sectors.
  
 This should be OK for linux, despite the warning.  As I
understand it, fdisk gets values for the begin column from the bios,
but the other columns are calculated by fdisk.  The bios figures are
wrong when they refer to cylinders above 1024.  The verify results are
based on the bios data, and always show overlaps in disks with over
1024 cylinders.  For example, here is the partition table for  my
first drive:

Disk /dev/hda: 15 heads, 63 sectors, 14475 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 945 * 512 bytes

   Device Boot   BeginStart  End   Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   *11 1104   521608+   6  DOS 16-bit =32M
/dev/hda2 1024 110510348  4367790   85  Linux extended
/dev/hda3102401034912412   975240   83  Linux native
/dev/hda4122881241314475   974767+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda5 1024 1105 5440  2048728+  83  Linux native
/dev/hda6 5120 5441 6091   307566   83  Linux native
/dev/hda7 5120 6092 622261866   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda8 6144 6223 8285   974736   83  Linux native
/dev/hda9 8192 8286 8502   102501   83  Linux native
/dev/hda108192 850310348   872203+  83  Linux native

Command (m for help): v
Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 4.
Warning: partition 1 overlaps partition 5.
Warning: partition 5 overlaps partition 6.
Warning: partition 5 overlaps partition 7.
Warning: partition 6 overlaps partition 7.
Warning: partition 7 overlaps partition 8.
Warning: partition 8 overlaps partition 9.
Warning: partition 3 overlaps partition 10.
Warning: partition 8 overlaps partition 10.
Warning: partition 9 overlaps partition 10.
Logical partition 5 not entirely in partition 2
390333 unallocated sectors

 Despite these warnings, I use all of these partitions regularly,
with no problems. 

 The DOS fdisk table you sent is weird!  It appears to be a
mixture of DOS' fdisk /status command with the partition table from a
normal fdisk command.  Your 549 mb drive would be C: in DOS
nomenclature, the CD would be D:, and your 4.3 gb drive E:, so that
partition table is partly right in its drive letter assignments.  Is
the CD properly jumpered as a slave?  I don't really think that would
cause such problems.  I don't think the LILO information in the MBR
would cause any problems for DOS.

 Does your bios support LBA?  If so, is it enabled or disabled?  I
suggest you switch it and see if that has any effect.  If your bios
doesn't support LBA, DOS can't recognize more than 1024 cylinders
unless you run one of the programs the the disk manufacturers
provide.  I don't know how these work, and I don't know if linux will
read the disk correctly after one of them is installed, so I have
never tried one.

 To sum up: I think your drive, as partitioned, will work fine in
linux, but I don't know what you should do about the DOS partitions.
There is a better chance of making it work if you put the DOS
partition first in the drive.  Linux doesn't care where it is, except
that I understand if you use LILO the boot partition must be within
the first 1024 cylinders.  (I use loadlin, and am not familiar with
LILO details.)

 Good Luck
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Re: error in fdisk/cfdisk? (part 2)

1998-02-26 Thread shaul
You probably have an old BIOS. Old bios is known not to recognize HD over 
528M, unless special measures, such as LBA, are incoperated.
Besides, I think that DOS would not recognize a partition that is over 2.1G.

I use Linux with a HD that the BIOS sees as LBA.

Does all this BIOS/DOS problems are causing problems with Linux ?




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Re: A need to manualy run /etc/cron.weekly/man-db

1998-02-26 Thread shaul
  
  On a previous posting I said that I needed to run the mentioned cron script 
  manualy.
  Now I found out when I had to run this script manualy.
  It turned out that it happaned after a shutdown command when I was logged
  to an xterm (and su to root). Prior to the shutdown I also had an xman
  window opened.
  And after I turned on the power, rebooted and logged again, I got a 
  segmentation fault whenever I tried to man -w something. Only after manualy 
  running the script the man -w something worked.
  Has someone else experienced this ?
 
 Yes. Please refer to the Debian-user faq:
 http://www.debian.org/cgi-bin/fom?file=58showEditCmds=1

 it´s because the database of man-db is corrupted.

The above reference (fom?...) is claims that the DB is getting corrupted and 
that rebuliding it solves the problem. This is seems to an answer.
However, it is also said that the DB corruption is due to a failed search. But 
my claim is that the corruption appears after using the reboot or shutdown 
command from an xterm. Furthere, when I reboot or shutdown the machine from a 
VT (after switching to a VT using ctrl+alt+F?), the DB does not get corrupted.
Is this a bug ?


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Re: HELP: XLOCK unlocks during the night.

1998-02-26 Thread Brandon Mitchell
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Alexander Kushnirenko wrote:

 I got strange behaviour of xlock after recent updates of hamm.  I lock the 
 terminal in the night, everything looks fine, there is a password prompt and 
 screensaver running.  But when I come back in the morning screen is unlocked.
 Also for some reason the list of authorised nodes, which I setup with xhost 
 command is cleared.

Sounds like a seg fault/core dump.  Next time, run it from a command line,
look at the return value (echo $? in bash).  I think there are some bugs
in the libc6 (well I guess there are always bugs), which periodically
causes problems.  But all in all, I think it's pretty stable.

Good luck,
Brandon

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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-26 Thread Britton

On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:
 
 On 24 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:
 
  Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
   On 23 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:
  
  [snip]
  
   I think most X apps would run tolerably over a null modem cable.  If I
   understand these gadgets right, the can operate at the speed of the serial
   port, which is about 120 kbps, I think.  Even over ppp (33k modem) many
   apps function reasonably well.
  
  OK, you're probably right.  I forgot how much faster a null-modem is
  than a 28.8K modem.
  
 However using the null modem cable one must be very carefull about power
 supply! Sometimes it is possible to destroy serial ports, when two
 computers are connected to the sockets powered from different phases.
 I've done it :-(.
 The safest solution is to power both of them right from the same socket. 
 
   Wojtek Zabolotny
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This is exceedingly odd.  As a power engineer in training I would say
somebody did a really rotten job designing the power supply in one of your
machines.  Was there any other equipment on either of the machines's
outlets?  Poor power regulation aside, I don't see how a phase difference
affected the serial port.  I hope that in general at least this isn't a
problem.   


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Re: Modem Problems....

1998-02-26 Thread shaul
 I was trying to setup debian on another computer:
 The serial module only detects /dev/ttyS1.

Is the modem on differenet tty ? Perhaps it is a PNP modem ?

 I tried to get minicom to dial out on /dev/ttyS1, but it doesnt seem to
 initialize it, and the modem doesn't make any noise when I try to dial.

Does minicom set up is correct ?
What does minicom replies when you try to initialize the modem ?

 Any suggestions as to where I should go from here to try and get the
 modem to work?





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Memory Usage Reports

1998-02-26 Thread tony mollica
Hi.  I'm not that clear on how Linux uses and organizes memory 
if anyone can provide some insight or other references. I'm 
using Debian Linux off the CD with the 2.0.30 kernel and no 
problems are noticed.  Below are the results from 'free' 
with notes on which applications I have started.  Obviously, 
as more applications are run, the amount of used memory 
increases, but when the applications are closed, the used 
memory does not return to the previous level and there is 
always less free memory after an application is started 
and then closed.  The free buffers remains somewhat constant 
but there is still some 'unexplained' loss here too. My questions
are these: 

What is the relationship between the free memory and the 
 free -/+ buffers?  
How is the difference between number 2 and number 5, below, 
 accounted for, just by starting and then stopping these 
 applications?  
Are there any utilities that can be used to investigate
 this further?

Any other info/explanation on any of the data below that
would help clear this up would be appreciated.


The results from free:

1. Linux 2.0.30 with X 3.3-3:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem: 63376  15312  48064  11016   1156  
8764
-/+ buffers: 5392  57984
Swap:16124  0  16124
-

2. With X and Tkdesk:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem: 63376  17380  45996  12420   1156  
8764
-/+ buffers: 7460  55916
Swap:16124  0  16124
-

3. With X, Tkdesk and Communicator 4.03:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem: 63376  32192  31184  19208   1412 
15572
-/+ buffers:15208  48168
Swap:16124  0  16124
-

4. With X, Tkdesk, Communicator 4.03 and StarOffice4.0:

 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem: 63376  52364  11012  32876   1668 
29772
-/+ buffers:20924  42452
Swap:16124  0  16124
-

5. With X and TkDesk but Communicator 4.03 and StarOffice 4.0 closed:   

 total   used   free sharedbuffers
cached
Mem: 63376  41152  4  12840   1796 
30064
-/+ buffers: 9292  54084
Swap:16124  0  16124
-


thanks,
 
tony mollica
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man-db installation problem ...

1998-02-26 Thread Nebu John Mathai
I tried to install the man page package (got too tired doing gunzip -c
|groff -Tascii -man), and received the following message from dselect.

I had libdb1, groff, bsdmainutils already installed prior to installing
the manpaged.

 positive messages deleleted 

  Checking for languages ... de_DECan't locate Getopt/Long.pm in @INC at
/usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
dpkg: error processing man-db (--install):
 subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2


Thanks,
Nebu


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Re: APC UPS'es

1998-02-26 Thread rir
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gerardo Lamastra wrote:

 Well, we use a Linux powered server which is tied to the APC SmartUPS 1000
 and everything works right.
 I think you should not have any problem to configure the UPS; the
 genpowerd daemon is used, with the following command line:
 
 /sbin/genpowerd /dev/ttyS1 apc-advanced

I am looking for an easy reliable solution for one to three
debian servers.

The behaviour I want is different than what I usually see written
about.  I want the system to wait a bit then shutdown and 
shut off the power until someone intervenes.  That is:  if the
power hiccoughs and no one is around shutdown 'til someone comes.

Would the APC do this?  
Anyone have other recommendations?
Will it be a bear to set up?  (I'm not up on my db-25, and -9 pin-outs,
I think I've used fcntl once long ago for a micro-sleep routine.  I can
solder  read a multi-meter  follow simple directions sometimes.)

Thanks
rob
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Install Applixware on Debian?

1998-02-26 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Has anybody installed Applixware on a Debian system?

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Re: mgetty voice/fax/data

1998-02-26 Thread Paul Miller
Where is the mgetty home page?  The site I found in the info file did not
exist.  Or do you know the mgetty mailing list address?

Thanks
-Paul

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I did not experienced with the kind of setup that you are talking about.
 However, I wonder, perhaps mgetty-voice has something to do with what you 
 want 
 ?
 Have you tried the mgetty mailing list ?
 
 If you look further into it, please keep us informed.
 
   Thank you.
 
 


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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-26 Thread Daniel Barclay

 From: Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:
  
  On 24 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:
  
...
  However using the null modem cable one must be very carefull about power
  supply! Sometimes it is possible to destroy serial ports, when two
  computers are connected to the sockets powered from different phases.
  I've done it :-(.
  The safest solution is to power both of them right from the same socket. 
  
  Wojtek Zabolotny
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This is exceedingly odd.  As a power engineer in training I would say
 somebody did a really rotten job designing the power supply in one of your
 machines.  Was there any other equipment on either of the machines's
 outlets?  Poor power regulation aside, I don't see how a phase difference
 affected the serial port.  I hope that in general at least this isn't a
 problem.   

That sounds like a ground loop problem.

Daniel


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Re: trouble reinstalling pcmcia-related things

1998-02-26 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Sen Nagata wrote:

   to make a long story short, i've removed (not purged) my
 pcmcia-cs (also pcmcia-source and pcmcia-modules) package and tried 
 to reinstall it.  when i try to reinstall pcmcia-cs, i get:
 
/lib/modules/2.0.32/misc/scc.o unresolved symbol
 
   i don't have any need for scc.o (AFAIK), and i dont have it
 selected via modconf either.
 
   any pointers as to where i might go or what i might do to 
 fix my set up?

Try installing pcmica-modules first.

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Re: Fetchmail Smail Problems

1998-02-26 Thread Joel Klecker
At 03:19 +0100 1998-02-25, Marcus Brinkmann wrote:
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 02:50:06AM +, Deniz Dogan wrote:
 Is there any other options to use as MDA? Preferably, how can I solve
 `connection
 refuse` problem?

Sorry, don't know. Try to look hard at the various files in /etc, as
/etc/hosts*, /etc/resolv.conf etc...

One possibility is that the smtp entry in /etc/inetd.conf is not enabled
(ISTR, that a certain version of the smail package didn't properly enable
this in its postinst script).

Running (as root):
  `update-inetd --enable smtp' (no quotes) should fix that (or else it'll
punt safely).

Also, if one wants smail to run standalone, one can edit /etc/init.d/smail
and comment out the exit 0 line near the top (IIRC, this may be necessary
for it to work at all with fetchmail. It will certainly make fetchmail
perform a bit better even if not required.).

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Re: man-db installation problem ...

1998-02-26 Thread Adam Klein
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 09:17:31PM -0500, Nebu John Mathai wrote:
 I tried to install the man page package (got too tired doing gunzip -c
 |groff -Tascii -man), and received the following message from dselect.
 
 I had libdb1, groff, bsdmainutils already installed prior to installing
 the manpaged.
 
  positive messages deleleted 
 
   Checking for languages ... de_DECan't locate Getopt/Long.pm in @INC at
 /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
 dpkg: error processing man-db (--install):
  subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2

You need to have perl installed.  A bug has already been filed.

Adam Klein


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Re: Dvorak keybindings in X

1998-02-26 Thread Adam Shand

  A question on behalf of a friend.  We have the dvorak key bindings working
  fine in console mode but can't get them to work under X.
 
 How did you do that?

it's an installation option.  i can't remember what the name of the
executable is if you want to run it again, but it walks you through what
keyboard settings you want when you install the os.

 One way is to use xmodmap, there's lots of info here:
 http://www.ccsi.com/~mbrooks/dvorak/unix.html

cool, thanks.  once i knew to look for xdvorak i found it pretty quick
with old trusty (altavista ;).

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Re: Speak-Freely Problems

1998-02-26 Thread Adam Shand

 If its 16-bit doesn't that mean 2 channels consisting of 8-bits each
 The kernel code may not be full-duplex but I thought the card was

again.  that's not what i thought... but i'm willing to be wrong ;)

 Thanks, I do now get audio through speak-freely.  However, it seems to
 break up or repeat the beginning several times from the corona echo
 server.  How do I fix that problem? 

for me that had to do with crappy, overloaded lines and retransmission.
you can set how many times it will retransmit on the command line with one
of the types of compression (sorry i can't remember off the top of my
head but it's pretty obvious if you check the man page).

adam.

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symlink error while unpacking -- why is this happening

1998-02-26 Thread Anibal A Acero

Hi folks!

I'm using the hamm distribution and lately I've been getting alot of the 
following:


 dpkg --unpack jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
(Reading database ... 100469 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking jdk1.1-dev (from jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb) ...
dpkg: error processing jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb (--unpack):
 error setting ownership of symlink `usr/man/man1/appletviewer-jdk11.1': 
No such file or directory
Errors were encountered while processing:
 jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb

It's not just jdk1.1-dev; it's also e2fsprogs and lg-issue25 for starters.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!

   Tony Acero, PhD - Lehman Brothers 
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Re: stm (was Console resolution (Was Viewing bootup message))

1998-02-26 Thread Michael Beattie
On Sun, 22 Feb 1998, Benoit Goudreault-Emond wrote:

  As a matter of interest, who is using SVGATextMode with an S3 ViRGE and a
  1024x768 capable monitor? if I try to go above 80x30, the characters on
  the left hand side of the screen get all screwy, and sometimes the left of
  the screen is cut off at the 10thish column and is repeated from there...
  So I use LILO to give me 80x34 :)
  
  Any Ideas?
 
 I am.
 
 My own text mode is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My settings:
 
 --- snip ---
 ChipSet   S3
 ClockChip S3Virge
 Option XFAST_DRAM
 # The following line might be what you're missing...
 Option S3_HSText
 option 16color
 # You may be missing this as well -- apparently, you must make sure to
 # load fonts at high frequencies
 Option LoadFont
 FontProg /usr/bin/setfont
 FontPath /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts
 # The following font is not in the package -- I grabbed it off sunsite's
 # console fonts pack.
 FontSelect sans-16   8x16 9x16 8x15 9x15 
 # The following fonts were kept as default -- I don't use them
 FontSelect Cyr_a8x14   8x14 9x14 8x13 9x13
 FontSelect 8x12alt.psf 8x12 9x12 8x11 9x11
 FontSelect Cyr_a8x88x8  9x8  8x7  9x7
 FontSelect Cyr_a8x32   8x32 9x32 8x31 9x31
 
 FontProg /usr/bin/setfont -u def.uni
 HorizSync 30-66
 VertRefresh 50-110
 DefaultMode 80x25
 80x25  28.3640  680  776  800400  412  414  449 font  9x16
 #
 # This is the mode I use.  I had to mess with the first, second, fourth
 # and fifth values to center.  I basically tried until I got something
 # reasonable, so I can't really give some hints besides keep a console
 # with stm 80x25 always ready at the prompt, and your finger on the
 # monitor's power off switch (just in case you give bad settings)
 #
 custom  55   800  878  922 1042615  615  616  650 font  8x16
 
 --- snip ---
 
 I hope that will be of some use to you.
 

Apparently not... I am beginning to think I need to raise some money for a
new monitor.. :( limits: 30-50 horiz 50-75 Vert
Oh well...

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Re: symlink error while unpacking -- why is this happening

1998-02-26 Thread Scott Ellis
You ran into a problem with the mid 2.1.8x kernels, upgrade to 2.1.88 or
downgrade to 2.1.7x

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Anibal A Acero wrote:

 
 Hi folks!
 
 I'm using the hamm distribution and lately I've been getting alot of the 
 following:
 
 
  dpkg --unpack jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 (Reading database ... 100469 files and directories currently installed.)
 Unpacking jdk1.1-dev (from jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb) ...
 dpkg: error processing jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb (--unpack):
  error setting ownership of symlink `usr/man/man1/appletviewer-jdk11.1': 
 No such file or directory
 Errors were encountered while processing:
  jdk1.1-dev_1.1.3.v2-1.deb
 
 It's not just jdk1.1-dev; it's also e2fsprogs and lg-issue25 for starters.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Tony Acero, PhD - Lehman Brothers 
 212-526-5356 || [EMAIL PROTECTED] || FAX 212-526-6962
 
 
 
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Smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-02-26 Thread alemas
 Daniel offered a solution that seems to me to work very (bo used
on this box, so check it) well, except that I changed the smtp-rewrite
in the /etc/smail/routers file to match what it calls in the 
/etc/smail/transports file (smtp-remap).  I think I typed both in as
smtp-rewrite.  I use elm-me+ and fetchmail (for POP downloads), by
the way.

 Also, I think it is important to go to the /etc/smail/config file
and make sure your ISP's domain name (not your full machine name) appears
thusly:
visible_name=ipa.net(mine used as an example here)
-domains
hostnames=alemas.ipa.net   --(not sure about this line. Is it correct?)

  You gurus on the list please take a look the script below, my
suggestions, and the full header of this message.  Then please advise.
If it works, maybe it will be useful in the archive.  Thank you. 

 _Art Lemasters

- Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Gross)

Subject: Re: Problems w/ppp dialup and sending mail

Try the following:

/etc/smail/routers
smart_host:
driver=smarthost, transport=smtp-rewrite;
path=mail.bingo.baynet.de
--

/etc/smail/transports-
[... other transports ...]

smtp-remap:
driver=tcpsmtp, max_addrs=100, -max_chars, inet,
remove_header=From,
insert_header=From:
${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 ($from:$fullname)}},
remove_header=Message-ID,
insert_header=Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
insert_header=Sender:
${lookup:from:lsearch{maps/[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 ($from:$fullname)}};
use_bind, defer_no_connect, -local_mx_okay, defnames
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/etc/smail/maps/from--
root[EMAIL PROTECTED] (root)
YOURLOCALUSER   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (YOURNAME)
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Re: two monitors

1998-02-26 Thread Remco Blaakmeer
On Tue, 24 Feb 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I am trying to get an old mda (hercules compatible?) card going together
 with a Matrox Millenium on an ASUS P55T4P2 motherboard.  On my quest, I have
 found two ways to do this, one of which almost works---a multimon kernel
 patch that has compiled cleanly on 2.0.33.  A second approach is called
 mda and is a module.
 
 Neither of them works for me yet.  Multimon seems to show the most promise,
 and apparently is the more flexible approach in all, anyway.  I suspect the
 mono card may not be good: the linux kernel boots with both monitors
 established by the kernel during the boot process, but I can't get a
 boot from the mono card, even if I remove the svga card---the bios won't
 even write the change of monitor type to cmos.  
 
 I set gettys up on tty9 and tty11 for the mono monitor: when I switch to
 those vc's, the cursor disappears from the svga monitor; but it never shows
 up on the mono monitor---that monitor never does a single thing ever.  
 
 Any suggestions would be appreciated.  My experiments are encouraging, at
 least, so I wanted to mention them with respect to the current thread.  The
 URLs are:

I suspect the second video card you are trying to use is broken.

I have used both the multimon kernel patch and the mda module with
success on a Hercules card. I'll summarize the pros and cons of both,
should anyone else be interested.

multimon:
+ lets you assign a range of ttys to the mono monitor
- you must choose this range by editing the kernel source and re-compile
  the kernel if you change your mind
- when you run (or switch to) an X server on the VGA card, _both_ text
  screens go blank, so the mono monitor is useless while you are using X
  on the VGA monitor; the text screens come back when the X server exits
  or when you switch to a text console

mda:
+ doesn't go blank if the VGA card runs X
- is a 'character device', so it only accepts output from programs

I have used the mda module for quite a time, constantly running a 'top -i'
at it. I couldn't find another use for it. Nowadays the mono monitor is
not even attached to the computer.

Remco


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Re: Smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-02-26 Thread alemas
 To clarify something from my last message in regards to the
subject (subject this message, also) at hand, my _machine name_ is
alemas.  ipa.net is my ISP's domain.  Therefore, my full domain
name on this machine is alemas.ipa.net.  My numerical domain
address (e.g., ###.###.###.###) is a different number--only borrowed
from my ISP--each time I log on; it is dynamic.  Correct me on
terms or otherwise, if need be, and thank you.

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trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-26 Thread Gary Kline


My Debian-1.3 came about a week ago.  It didn't take that long
to figure out the installation procedure; it is similiar to
FreeBSD that I've used for around 3 years.

However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI
drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that
I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system.  

I have FreeBSD on my 2nd SCSI drive but cannot get to it.

After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've
come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot
track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux.

I'd be much obliged for some work-arounds here.  Am I using
the wrong rescue disk or what?

(*mumble*)

thanks,

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dump aborts on /var scsi filesystem only

1998-02-26 Thread Jameson Burt
Over 4 months, I used dump to successfully back-up 5 filesystems in this order
   / /usr /var /home /usr/local
Now, for two weeks, I have gotten no successful backup.
dump always goes wild on the /var filesystem.
With the exception of an Atapi CD, all other such hardware is attached to an 
Adaptec 2940UW SCSI adapter, including 3 disk drives and 1 old Exabyte 8200 
tape drive.  All filesystems for linux reside on the same wide scsi disk drive 
/dev/sdc*.
Here is a typical sequence of dump errors.

  DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Mon Feb 23 02:24:49 1998
  DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch
  DUMP: Dumping /dev/sdc12 (/var) to /dev/nst0
  DUMP: mapping (Pass I) [regular files]
  DUMP: mapping (Pass II) [directories]
  DUMP: estimated 49296 tape blocks on 0.02 tape(s).
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  DUMP: End of tape detected
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8616]: count=1024
  DUMP: Closing /dev/nst0



though after Pass IV I have also gotten errors like
  DUMP: dumping (Pass III) [directories]
  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8624]: count=1024
  DUMP: End of tape detected
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [sector 8624]: count=512
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8626]: count=1024
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [sector 8626]: count=512
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8628]: count=1024
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [sector 8628]: count=512
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8630]: count=1024
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [sector 8630]: count=512
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8632]: count=1024
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [sector 8632]: count=512
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [block 8634]: count=1024
  DUMP: read error from /dev/sdc12: Input/output error: [sector 8634]: count=512
  DUMP: Closing /dev/nst0

And running a dump on just /var I often get the following after Pass IV
  DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files]
  DUMP: End of tape detected
  DUMP: Closing /dev/nst0

Here, I used the command
/sbin/dump 0Bf 250 /dev/nst0  /var



Perhaps these errors occur because many programs write to files in /var.
An fsck shows a good /var.
Some messages in /var/log files, perhaps not co-incident with my dump problem, 
include
   Feb 26 00:56:16 rabbit modprobe: can't locate module char-major-14 and
   Feb 26 00:51:31 rabbit kernel: scsi0: Target 9 underflow - Wanted at least 
16384, got 14336, residual SG count 3.
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: scsi0: Target 9 underflow - Wanted at least 
16384, got 14336, residual SG count 3.
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: scsi0 channel 0 : resetting for second half of 
retries.
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: SCSI bus is being reset for host 0 channel 0.
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: aic7xxx: (reset) target/channel 9/0
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_device) target/channel -1/A, 
active_scb 0
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: aic7xxx: (match_scb) comparing target/channel 
-1/A to scb 9/A
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_channel) Resetting current 
channel A
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: aic7xxx: (reset_channel) Channel reset, 
sequencer restarted
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: aic7xxx: (done_aborted_scbs) Aborting scb 0, 
TCL=9/0/0
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: scsi0: Received MSG_WDTR, Target 9, channel A 
needwdtr(0x).
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: scsi0: Target 9, channel A, using 16 bit 
transfers.
Feb 26 00:51:33 rabbit kernel: scsi0: Target 9, channel A, now synchronous at 
10.0MHz, offset 8.
Feb 26 00:52:01 rabbit kernel: scsi0: Target 9 underflow - Wanted at least 
16384, got 14336, residual SG count 3.
Feb 26 00:52:02 rabbit last message repeated 2 times
Feb 26 00:52:02 rabbit kernel: SCSI disk error : host 0 channel 0 id 9 lun 0 
return code = 27070002
Feb 26 00:52:02 rabbit kernel: scsidisk I/O error: dev 08:2c, sector 8640



I would like to backup /var  since it does have some administrative and some 
user files in
 /var/{named,lib,spool/cron/crontabs}

Has anyone some ideas why dump now goes crazy on /var, and should I backup /var?




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Re: trouble reinstalling pcmcia-related things

1998-02-26 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:27:32 -0500 (EST)
Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

 On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Sen Nagata wrote:
 
to make a long story short, i've removed (not purged) my
  pcmcia-cs (also pcmcia-source and pcmcia-modules) package and tried 
  to reinstall it.  when i try to reinstall pcmcia-cs, i get:
  
 /lib/modules/2.0.32/misc/scc.o unresolved symbol
  
i don't have any need for scc.o (AFAIK), and i dont have it
  selected via modconf either.
  
any pointers as to where i might go or what i might do to 
  fix my set up?
 
 Try installing pcmica-modules first.

thanks for your advice.

i took your advice and installed pcmcia-modules first, but i got exactly the 
same error when i tried to install the pcmcia-cs package.

any other possibilities?

-sen


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Dosemu-problems

1998-02-26 Thread Gernot Bauer
Hi, 

I installed the dosemu-package (stable-distribution) but the config-file
is missing (should be /etc/dosemu/conf) and I cant find a readme how to
create one...

Anyone?

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Re: Free X servers for win

1998-02-26 Thread pai

Thanks to all who responded. The Mix server works just fine. In fact
Netscape on X works faster than on Win.

I teach UNIX. My assignment was to port an entire syllabus from SCO to
Linux. I have started by installing just a simple Slackware to teach shell
scripting, C, C++, and elementary Perl. Next comes introductory Motif. I
think the lesstif + Mix server should do that trick. After that - Java,
RDBMS, simple sysadmin ...

Wish me luck.

Thank you all once again.
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Re: trouble reinstalling pcmcia-related things

1998-02-26 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around Thu, 26 Feb 1998 15:36:07 +0900
Sen Nagata [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

 at some point around Wed, 25 Feb 1998 22:27:32 -0500 (EST)
 Jean Pierre LeJacq [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:
 
  On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Sen Nagata wrote:
  
 to make a long story short, i've removed (not purged) my
   pcmcia-cs (also pcmcia-source and pcmcia-modules) package and tried 
   to reinstall it.  when i try to reinstall pcmcia-cs, i get:
   
  /lib/modules/2.0.32/misc/scc.o unresolved symbol
   
 i don't have any need for scc.o (AFAIK), and i dont have it
   selected via modconf either.
   
 any pointers as to where i might go or what i might do to 
   fix my set up?
  
  Try installing pcmica-modules first.
 
 thanks for your advice.
 
 i took your advice and installed pcmcia-modules first, but i got exactly 
 the same error when i tried to install the pcmcia-cs package.
 
 any other possibilities?

after rebooting, things seemed to have been fixed (may be the modules file
got rebuilt?).

i'm still wondering about the error though...

-sen


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Re: Dosemu-problems

1998-02-26 Thread Jean-Michel Rouet
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gernot Bauer wrote:

 Hi, 
 
 I installed the dosemu-package (stable-distribution) but the config-file
 is missing (should be /etc/dosemu/conf) and I cant find a readme how to
 create one...
 

Maybe have a look in /var/lib/dosemu/...


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Re: xfstt

1998-02-26 Thread Ender Wigin
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On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Fulgham, Brent/SCO wrote:

 Has anyone used xfstt on a regular basis?  I've gotten Netscape to work
 using TT fonts, now I'd like to get other X applications to work and I
 want to know what other's experiences are.

I use it all the time ... for netscape, gimp, xword, etc ... the main font
used now for x related stuff is a tt font served by xfstt  I wonder if
anyone has packaged it yet ... Have to ask ... 

 
 Any comments?
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ethernet card (hamm)

1998-02-26 Thread Jonas Bofjall
I have decided to install something unixish on an old 486/33 which just
sits in the lab, which has a crashed MSwin311 installation and no one uses
it. I don't have much info on hardware but I've figured out most of it. The
network card has `SMC' printed on it so I choose the first SMC driver (I
think its called `ultra') and it detects the network card at 0x220 IRQ 10.

I installed hamm and it went very smoothly to just after the base disks
unpacking, where the machine locked up. Or at least I think it locked up,
it just sat silently with no `dialog box' on screen and appearently did
nothing for ten minutes, so I rebooted. I think this was the `configuring
modules' phase of installation. I just skipped this step and went on with
the configuration and installation of LILO.

Now I can't get networking to actually work. I can't ping anything except
the loopback (127.0.0.1) and my own IP address. Does the latter mean that
my network card works or does the packet never leave the machine?

`route' displays:
Destination  GatewayGenmask  Flags Metric Ref  Use Iface
localnet *  255.255.0.0  U 0  02   eth0
127.0.0.0*  255.0.0.0U 0  01   lo
default  correct  0.0.0.0  UG1  00   eth0
Where `correct' is the correct IP of my gateway (I choose not to write 
it down here of various reasons). It takes rather long time before the
third entry shows up, not minutes perhaps but many seconds. What does the
flags, metric, ref and use columns mean? I've compared the values with
other working installations so I suppose they are correct.

`ifconfig eth0' has the right IP, Bcast and Netmask -- but the wrong base
IO address. It says 0x230 and the module when loaded says 0x220. However,
when I try `ifconfig eth0 io_addr 0x220' it answers `SIOCSIFMAP: Operation
not supported'.

How do I proceed to locate the actual problem? (I mean: how do I find out
if the hardware is malfunctioning, if the module doesn't work with my card
or if there's a configuration problem?)

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Pentium-II

1998-02-26 Thread Clement
 Many users of Cyrix CPUs have had to disable the cache in their systems
 during installation, because the floppy disk has errors if they do not. If
 you have to do this, be sure to re-enable your cache when you are finished
 with installation, as the system runs much slower with the cache disabled.

Interestingly, I have the same problem with a genuine Intel Pentium-II
233 CPU.  Switching the cache during installation works.

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Re: two keyboards, two monitors, two users, one processor?

1998-02-26 Thread Wojciech Zabolotny
This discussion starts to be out of list's topic, sorry.
I'll send further responses only by e-mail.

If the power instalation is properly designed, it should be no problem.
However I, personally, would always prefere two have an additional zero
current ground wire dedicated for computers only.
And there still exists a problem with voltages induced by eg. electric
storms. 
The optoisolation circuit (not very expensive, because it is
not very fast link, and for software flow control two transoptors
powered from unused port lines are sufficient) is much better solution.
The standard built-in serial ports, are rather delicate (Usually they are
even not compatible with RS232 standard, because they may work correctly
with 0V-5V logic levels). The professional RS232 boards should be safer.
This problem is particularly serious, when someone wants to connect two
computers using their parallel ports (and PLIP). The parallel ports are
much less protected.

Wojtek

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Britton wrote:

 
 On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Wojciech Zabolotny wrote:
  
  On 24 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:
  
   Britton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
On 23 Feb 1998, Carey Evans wrote:
   
   [snip]
   
I think most X apps would run tolerably over a null modem cable.  If I
understand these gadgets right, the can operate at the speed of the 
serial
port, which is about 120 kbps, I think.  Even over ppp (33k modem) many
apps function reasonably well.
   
   OK, you're probably right.  I forgot how much faster a null-modem is
   than a 28.8K modem.
   
  However using the null modem cable one must be very carefull about power
  supply! Sometimes it is possible to destroy serial ports, when two
  computers are connected to the sockets powered from different phases.
  I've done it :-(.
  The safest solution is to power both of them right from the same socket. 
  
  Wojtek Zabolotny
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 This is exceedingly odd.  As a power engineer in training I would say
 somebody did a really rotten job designing the power supply in one of your
 machines.  Was there any other equipment on either of the machines's
 outlets?  Poor power regulation aside, I don't see how a phase difference
 affected the serial port.  I hope that in general at least this isn't a
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Re: security problem (tcp/ip)

1998-02-26 Thread Frank Barknecht
Carey Evans hat gesagt: // Carey Evans wrote:

 Benoit Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  i found that everyone on our hubs can get my ftp, and pop3 password so
  easy with a sniffer.
  can i do something against that, because now i dont trust tcpip transfert,
  it send all my user name and password in ascii code.
 
 Get ssh from a Debian non-US mirror.  This will solve most of your
 problems.  For pop3, you can forward it over ssh, or use something
 with APOP authentication if the content of your email isn't sensitive.
 

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Re: Dosemu-problems

1998-02-26 Thread Gernot Bauer
Jean-Michel Rouet wrote:
 
 On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gernot Bauer wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I installed the dosemu-package (stable-distribution) but the config-file
  is missing (should be /etc/dosemu/conf) and I cant find a readme how to
  create one...
 
 
 Maybe have a look in /var/lib/dosemu/...
 
I just have the hdimage there :(

Am I missing something?

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Re: Dosemu-problems

1998-02-26 Thread Jean-Michel Rouet
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gernot Bauer wrote:

 Jean-Michel Rouet wrote:
 
  Maybe have a look in /var/lib/dosemu/...
  
 I just have the hdimage there :(
 
 Am I missing something?
 

I've inspected the dosemu_0.66.3-1.deb package

it contains :
-rw-r--r-- root/root 28011 May 5 13:36 1997  usr/lib/dosemu/config.dist
 
that should be what you're looking at


I guess the .deb package should put it directly in /etc/dosemu/dosemu.conf
and replace the previous one (if it exists) by a dosemu.conf.orig or sthg
like that...


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DEBIAN or REDHAT ?

1998-02-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

I am currently using hamm and am very happy with it.  I will be
installing a new Linux system soon but everyone is telling me to install
RedHat 5.  Has anyone any opinions on this?  I tend to be partial to
Debian, especially with GNOME being integrated into hamm.  However, I've
never used Redhat.

Also, I've been advised that RedHat puts out security fixes the next day
after a CERT advisory is released.  How is Debian when it comes to
security and other patches?  When I was using bo, patches weren't released
very often.  Is this an indication that RedHat is more buggy, or is it an
indication that Debian is more stable?  For example, when the CERT
advisory for SSH-AGENT was release over a week ago, one of the OSes that
responded to the CERT advisory was RedHat.  Much to my dismay, Debian
wasn't one of the OSes that was mentioned on the CERT list.  I ended up
compiling SSH on my own.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions or tips.

-Ossama

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Re: Dosemu-problems

1998-02-26 Thread John Spence
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 02:20:42PM +0100, Gernot Bauer wrote:

   I installed the dosemu-package (stable-distribution) but the config-file
   is missing (should be /etc/dosemu/conf) and I cant find a readme how to
   create one...
  
  
  Maybe have a look in /var/lib/dosemu/...
  
 I just have the hdimage there :(

Here is the layout of my dosemu files after installation. 

I eventually copied /usr/lib/dosemu/config.dist to /etc/dosemu.conf and
made the /etc/conf symbolic link point to that instead.


/etc/dosemu

conf# Symlink to /usr/lib/dosemu/config.dist
users

/usr/lib/dosemu
===
config.dist
hddummy
hdimage.dist.gz


/var/lib/dosemu

hdimage # This is the initial FreeDOS image used
# when dos is first executed.
# I replaced this with the image in 
# /usr/lib/dosemu/hdimage.dist.gz
# and installed dos 6.22 in the new image.


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RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Richardson,Anthony

I'd forgot about the shared library stuff.  I'd expect we'd also need
ld.so in lib and to set up the library cache file in etc.  This doesn't
seem too easy ... Are we missing an easier solution?

Perhaps a statically linked ls is the way to go.

Thanks
Tony


 -Original Message-
From: Alan Su [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 1998 8:27 PM
To: Richardson,Anthony
Cc: 'debian-user'
Subject: Re: Setting up Anon FTP?

Richardson,Anthony wrote (Wed, 25 Feb 1998 20:01:00 -0500 ):
|
|I'm trying to set up an anonymous ftp server.  Everything seems to be   


|working except
|ls or dir.  I copied /bin/ls to /home/ftp/bin/ls and set up permissions   


|as described in the
|ftpd man page.  When I type ls however I get:
|
|   150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for '/bin/ls'.
|  226 Transfer complete.
|
|and then nothing.
|
|nlist works.
|
|Any ideas?  Thanks
|

Well, and idea, but I'm not sure if it's right or if this is going to
help.  I think that the problem is that /home/ftp/bin/ls depends on
libc.so.?.  Since anonymous ftp sessions run chroot'd to the ~ftp
directory, it can't see the shared library.

I tried making a /home/ftp/lib directory and putting a copy of
libc.so.5 there, but that didn't help.  Is my/our only recourse to
compile a statically-linked version of ls?

 -alan


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Re: DEBIAN or REDHAT ?

1998-02-26 Thread Martin Schulze
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 08:00:30AM -0500, Ossama Othman wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am currently using hamm and am very happy with it.  I will be
 installing a new Linux system soon but everyone is telling me to install
 RedHat 5.  Has anyone any opinions on this?  I tend to be partial to
 Debian, especially with GNOME being integrated into hamm.  However, I've
 never used Redhat.

If you already know a particular distribution and you
 - know it
 - be happy with it
 - find all the software you need
 - are happy with its way to upgrade and organize things

how would you decide?

 Also, I've been advised that RedHat puts out security fixes the next day
 after a CERT advisory is released.  How is Debian when it comes to
 security and other patches?  When I was using bo, patches weren't released
 very often.  Is this an indication that RedHat is more buggy, or is it an
 indication that Debian is more stable?  For example, when the CERT
 advisory for SSH-AGENT was release over a week ago, one of the OSes that
 responded to the CERT advisory was RedHat.  Much to my dismay, Debian
 wasn't one of the OSes that was mentioned on the CERT list.  I ended up
 compiling SSH on my own.

Debian releases security fixed software, too.  We're not bumping the
version number with every fix.  Please look at http://www.debian.org/security/
to find out about our security.

Debian has some specialities included that prevents some vulnerabilities.
I'm sure that RedHat has some, too, maybe others.  Concerning ssh there
were fixed versions on our server 2 or 3 days after the report.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: gpc linking problem

1998-02-26 Thread Tobias Peters

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On Thu, 19 Feb 1998, Deniz Dogan wrote:

 $gpc hello.pas -o hello
 ld: cannot open -lgpc: No such file or directory

Add a symbolic link:

ln -s /usr/lib/libgpc.so.2.8 \
  /usr/lib/gcc-lib/i486-linux/2.7.2.1/libgpc.so 

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RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Run ldd on ls.   For example,

ldd /bin/ls   (you need the absolute path)

You should get output like:

libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the
above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to
~ftp/usr/lib).  Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions.

Good luck.

-Ossama

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Help!! --/dev/ttyS0 input overflow error --

1998-02-26 Thread C.J.LAWSON
Hi everyone,
I wote some code to manage a data aquisition device in the labs.
It runs for a while (say 24 hrs, gathering data every 6 secs [x 50 data
points]) then it crashes, crashes bad (segmentation fault) /dev/ttyS0
input overflow ... does anyone know what is causing this??
I would also like to find out what the equivalent of fflush (); is
for the unix filesystem

Thanks and I really look forward to hearing from you 

Regards

Jonatha (who is in a fix in the lab)


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Re: Help!! --/dev/ttyS0 input overflow error --

1998-02-26 Thread Ossama Othman
I can't help you with the device problem.  However, if you do a:

man fflush

You will get a manual page of the fflush C function for the particular
UNIX or UNIX-like system you are using, presumably and hopefully Debian
Linux since you posted to this Debian mailing list.  In general, all
available C routines have man pages.

Here is some of the output from the above man page:

FFLUSH(3)   Linux Programmer's Manual   FFLUSH(3)


NAME
   fflush - flush a stream

SYNOPSIS
   #include stdio.h

   int fflush(FILE *stream);

DESCRIPTION
  see the man page :-)


Good luck.

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forwarding pop3 over ssh

1998-02-26 Thread Sen Nagata
at some point around Thu, 26 Feb 1998 13:08:10 +0100
Frank Barknecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] mentioned:

 Carey Evans hat gesagt: // Carey Evans wrote:
 
  Benoit Joly [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  
 i found that everyone on our hubs can get my ftp, and pop3 password so
   easy with a sniffer.
   can i do something against that, because now i dont trust tcpip transfert,
   it send all my user name and password in ascii code.
  
  Get ssh from a Debian non-US mirror.  This will solve most of your
  problems.  For pop3, you can forward it over ssh, or use something
  with APOP authentication if the content of your email isn't sensitive.
  
 
 How do I forward pop3 over ssh? 

i guess this isn't strictly a debian-related thing, but...

using the -L option for ssh...

from an ssh man page:

 -L port:host:hostport
  Specifies that the given port  on  the  local  (client)
  host  is  to be forwarded to the given host and port on
  the remote side.  This works by allocating a socket  to
  listen  to  port on the local side, and whenever a con-
  nection is made to this port, the  connection  is  for-
  warded  over  the  secure  channel, and a connection is
  made to host:hostport from the  remote  machine.   Port
  forwardings  can also be specified in the configuration
  file.  Only root can forward privileged ports.

so you'd log into the machine which the pop server is running on using 
something like:

  ssh -L 110:127.0.0.1:110 name.of.pop.server

then configure your pop client to connect to port 110 of 127.0.0.1
(the machine you are running the ssh -L command from).  then just use
your pop client as usual.  note: the machine which runs the pop server
must have an ssh daemon (sshd) running for this to work.

you probably want to learn more about ssh if you are going to use it.
here is one place you might start looking:

  http://www.cs.hut.fi/ssh/

-sen


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Re: bbs for debian?

1998-02-26 Thread Pere Camps
Joey,

 I doubt it, I have a friend ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) who starts dosemu when his
 system boots, and never closes it. I haven't heard about periodic hangs.

I'll run some tests...

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Re: Install Applixware on Debian?

1998-02-26 Thread Adam Shand
 Has anybody installed Applixware on a Debian system?

yep it works fine.  i found the easist way to do it is to use alien to
convert the rpm's into deb's.  this works great so long as you don't mind
it installing to /opt (which i don't)... just make sure you have enough
disk space on your root partition or better yet make /opt a symlink to
/usr/local/opt .

the only gotcha i've found is that with some versions of debmake the
packages won't convert properly so make sure you have a recent version
(not sure which version was the issue anymore).

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Server Questions (fwd)

1998-02-26 Thread Nathan E Norman
No-one on this list uses Debian as a news server?  Nobody's running SMP?
There's no interest whatsoever in tech support for Debian?  (I know
Bruce posted something about it a while ago ...)

I'm disappointed.  If the folks who are in the know have all
unsubscribed from this list and hang exclusively on debian-devel, then I
think there's a problem. 

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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:14:22 -0600 (CST)
From: Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Server Questions [mildly offtopic]

We are looking at purchasing a new server to add to our stable, and I'm
looking for some feedback/opinions/experience with news and/or SMP
systems with Debian Linux.  Private email is welcomed, since this isn't
really list material (sorry)

What I'm looking for is this:  If you're running SMP, does it work well?
Problems?  Hints?  Same with news ... does a specific version of INN do
the trick?  Any special kernel configs?  You get the idea.

Oh, and before I forget ... I heard there is a company providing phone
support for Debian Linux.  If this is true, who is it?  What are the
rates?  I work for a corporation that is becoming comfortable with the
idea of Linux, but wants tech support available.  I'd rather run Debian
than RedHat/Caldera, so please help!

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Re: DEBIAN or REDHAT ?

1998-02-26 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Ossama Othman wrote:

 I am currently using hamm and am very happy with it.  I will be
 installing a new Linux system soon but everyone is telling me to
 install RedHat 5.  Has anyone any opinions on this?  I tend to be
 partial to Debian, especially with GNOME being integrated into hamm.
 However, I've never used Redhat.

i'd say stick with what you already know and like.  RH isn't as nicely
integrated a system as debian is, and RH5 is from all reports i've read,
quite buggy - even when compared to the hamm pre-release. they rushed it
out the door before it was ready.

I can't see that switching to RH5 would gain you anything.  There's
nothing in RH5 that isn't in hammin fact, hamm has a lot more
packages available for it and is (almost) pure libc6, whereas RH5 is a
mixture of libc5 and libc6 packages.

debian isn't perfect (nothing is :), but if you're used to debian and
like the way it works then you will probably find RH to be clumsy,
frustrating and annoying.

BTW, redhat are committed to gnome too - because RH are commercial they
can't even distribute a working KDE (because of the Qt license problems)
so they don't really have any choice.  They're putting a lot of energy
into supporting the gnome project.

 Also, I've been advised that RedHat puts out security fixes the next
 day after a CERT advisory is released.  How is Debian when it comes to
 security and other patches?

RH doesn't always come out with a fix the next day.  Either does debian.
Both RH  Debian tend to be very prompt with security fixes - we both
see good security as being vital.  From what i've seen on the security
lists, sometimes RH beats debian with a released patch, sometimes debian
beats RHit works out about even.  It's not really a race, anyway -
all linux dists that i know of share their security patches around.

 When I was using bo, patches weren't released very often.  Is this
 an indication that RedHat is more buggy, or is it an indication that
 Debian is more stable?

my guess is that it's a combination of things:

1. you probably weren't looking in the right place. as someone else
pointed out, the fix for ssh was released within a few days of the bug
being discovered. ssh is crypto and therefore a dangerous munition...it
can't be exported from the US so you won't find it on any of debian's US
ftp servers.  You can only find it in the free world - non-us.debian.org
or mirrrors.

2. security fixes are announced on debian's web page.  Look for the
security link on http://www.debian.org/

3. bo is an anomaly.  or more precisely, the upgrade to hamm is an anomaly
because it has taken so long and is such a big change.  In the past we have
been able to advise users to just upgrade individual packages to the version
in 'unstable'.  We haven't been able to do that this time around because the
stable release (bo) and unstable (hamm) are based on different versions of
the libc.Upgrading any individual package to the version in hamm
requires upgrading the entire system to hamm.

The procedure for doing this upgrade is quite well documented now (and
there's even a script to do it automatically) but it's still a lot of
work just to get one package upgraded.

Fortunately, once hamm is released (code freeze is scheduled for
mid-late march!), users will be able to easily upgrade any individual to
the 'unstable' version, so we'll be back to normal.


 For example, when the CERT advisory for SSH-AGENT was release over
 a week ago, one of the OSes that responded to the CERT advisory was
 RedHat.  Much to my dismay, Debian wasn't one of the OSes that was
 mentioned on the CERT list.  I ended up compiling SSH on my own.

sometimes they mention debian, sometimes they don't. ditto for redhat
and slackware and other distributions. ditto for other unixes too.

quite often, security problems on other unixes or other distributions
aren't a problem on debian - either because we already fixed it or
because the problem is only exploitable in specific environments.


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RE: Help!! --/dev/ttyS0 input overflow error --

1998-02-26 Thread Lewis, James M.
I don't know about your first problem...

fflush() will flush your stream to the system buffer cache.  sync() will cause
the buffer cache to be posted to disk.  Unless linux crashes, the sync call
should not be needed.

jim


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Subject:Help!! --/dev/ttyS0 input overflow error --

Hi everyone,
I wote some code to manage a data aquisition device in the labs.
It runs for a while (say 24 hrs, gathering data every 6 secs [x 50 data
points]) then it crashes, crashes bad (segmentation fault) /dev/ttyS0
input overflow ... does anyone know what is causing this??
I would also like to find out what the equivalent of fflush (); is
for the unix filesystem

Thanks and I really look forward to hearing from you 

Regards

Jonatha (who is in a fix in the lab)


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Re: Install Applixware on Debian?

1998-02-26 Thread Bill Leach
Yes, several times.  Use the 'rpm.deb' package.  I know that I have
installed it 'just by copying' but the last time that I tried that
applixware had some problems with 'license files' (somewhere in /etc)
and it was just not worth the trouble (to me) to spend anytime trying to
figure it out when debian's rpm does the installation.

Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:
 
 Has anybody installed Applixware on a Debian system?
 
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/etc/cron.daily/wn error

1998-02-26 Thread Luis Francisco Gonzalez
Hi, I have been getting this error and I don't really know what's going on. 

 Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:47:33 + (GMT)
 From: root (Cron Daemon)
 To: root
 Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily
 
Mime type file too large.
 run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/wn exited with return code 2

Any pointers?

Thanks,
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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-26 Thread Bill Leach
This is just some quick 'off the top of my head' sort of things...

First, the 'ramdisk' problem.  This is probably not caused by anything
associated with the booting process (though _can_ be--at least when
using LILO) but rather that the kernel is configured to use a 'ramdisk'
as root (/).  I use and have always used lilo so I am not very familiar
with the other methods.

You are probably already familiar with 'rdev' but if you can find your
debian kernel then you can tell that kernel to use whatever device/
partition you want.

What boot manager are you using if not lilo?

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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-26 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:

 However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI
 drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that
 I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system.  
 
 After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've
 come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot
 track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux.
 
 I'd be much obliged for some work-arounds here.  Am I using
 the wrong rescue disk or what?

Are you booting from the rescue floppy disk.  If yes, then indeed you
will be using the RAM-fs.  You can either use the boot floppy disk or
LILO installed on the hard disk.

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Re: /etc/cron.daily/wn error

1998-02-26 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote:

 Hi, I have been getting this error and I don't really know what's going on. 
 
  Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:47:33 + (GMT)
  From: root (Cron Daemon)
  To: root
  Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily
  
 Mime type file too large.
  run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/wn exited with return code 2

I'm the maintainer of wn.  I know about this problem and am tracking
it down now.  I hope to have a solution and updated package later this
week.

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Re: ethernet card (hamm)

1998-02-26 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Jonas Bofjall wrote:

 Now I can't get networking to actually work. I can't ping anything except
 the loopback (127.0.0.1) and my own IP address. Does the latter mean that
 my network card works or does the packet never leave the machine?
 
 `ifconfig eth0' has the right IP, Bcast and Netmask -- but the wrong base
 IO address. It says 0x230 and the module when loaded says 0x220. However,
 when I try `ifconfig eth0 io_addr 0x220' it answers `SIOCSIFMAP: Operation
 not supported'.
 
 How do I proceed to locate the actual problem? (I mean: how do I find out
 if the hardware is malfunctioning, if the module doesn't work with my card
 or if there's a configuration problem?)

If you have the original disk available for the ethernet card, they
usually have a ms-dos based configuration utility to test the card and
set ports and irqs.  Also take a look at the /usr/src/kernel-source
under your module for the ethernet card and there may be documentation
on options you can pass when loading the module.

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Re: man-db installation problem ...

1998-02-26 Thread Nebu John Mathai
Checking for languages ... de_DECan't locate Getopt/Long.pm in @INC at
  /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
  BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/chmanconfig line 38.
  dpkg: error processing man-db (--install):
   subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2
 
 You need to have perl installed.  A bug has already been filed.

Just as additional followup, if you don't need any additional language
support just comment out the section in the
/var/lib/dpkg/info/man-db.postinst script that deals with languages and
run the dselect configure packages option and man-db will install without
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Re: /etc/cron.daily/wn error

1998-02-26 Thread Jean-Michel Rouet
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Luis Francisco Gonzalez wrote:

 Hi, I have been getting this error and I don't really know what's going on. 
 
  Date: Thu, 26 Feb 1998 06:47:33 + (GMT)
  From: root (Cron Daemon)
  To: root
  Subject: Cron [EMAIL PROTECTED] run-parts /etc/cron.daily
  
 Mime type file too large.
  run-parts: /etc/cron.daily/wn exited with return code 2
 
 Any pointers?
 

Have a look to the script /etc/cron.daily/wn

cron executes daily weekly and monthly the contents of :
/etc/cron.daily
/etc/cron.weekly
/etc/cron.monthly

depending on the contents of /etc/crontab 
/etc/crontab on my machine :
SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin

# m h dom mon dow user  command
42 6* * *   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.daily
47 6* * 7   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.weekly
52 61 * *   rootrun-parts /etc/cron.monthly


So every day at 6:42 AM all the scripts in /etc/cron.daily will be
executed. In fact only those following the #!/bin/interpretername
convention (see man run-parts)

To get back to your pb, I don't actually know what 'wn' stands for, so you
need to look at /etc/cron.daily/wn or the
program it is linked to.

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Re: mgetty voice/fax/data

1998-02-26 Thread Mike Schmitz
On Wed, Feb 25, 1998 at 09:56:05PM -0500, Paul Miller wrote:
 Where is the mgetty home page?  The site I found in the info file did not
 exist.  Or do you know the mgetty mailing list address?
 
 Thanks
 -Paul
 
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Re: Server Questions (fwd)

1998-02-26 Thread David Wright
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Nathan E Norman wrote:

 No-one on this list uses Debian as a news server?  Nobody's running SMP?
 There's no interest whatsoever in tech support for Debian?  (I know
 Bruce posted something about it a while ago ...)
 
 I'm disappointed.  If the folks who are in the know have all
 unsubscribed from this list and hang exclusively on debian-devel, then I
 think there's a problem. 

Judging from the traffic on this list, they seem to be as helpful as ever.
But...

 -- Forwarded message --
 Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:14:22 -0600 (CST)
 From: Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Server Questions [mildly offtopic]
 
 We are looking at purchasing a new server to add to our stable, and I'm
 looking for some feedback/opinions/experience with news and/or SMP
 systems with Debian Linux.  Private email is welcomed, since this isn't
 really list material (sorry)

My way of getting this sort of information is to watch the list for topics
I might be interested in in the future and file them in folders. For example,
I built quite an IP/PPP resource before I needed to get PPP going myself.
Ditto ssh and samba. Now I'm watching people's queries on hamm ready for the 
changeover.

 What I'm looking for is this:  If you're running SMP, does it work well?
 Problems?  Hints?  Same with news ... does a specific version of INN do
 the trick?  Any special kernel configs?  You get the idea.

The specific stuff should be in HOWTOs. But most people don't have a 
general off-pat report ready for a quick response to an open query like this.
Human nature says Leave it to someone else/Somebody's probably already 
sent an email.

 Oh, and before I forget ... I heard there is a company providing phone
 support for Debian Linux.  If this is true, who is it?  What are the
 rates?  I work for a corporation that is becoming comfortable with the
 idea of Linux, but wants tech support available.  I'd rather run Debian
 than RedHat/Caldera, so please help!

Apart from Bruce's posting which you mentioned, I can't help you here. 
Universities aren't the sort of institutions who want to pay for support 
of linux.

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Re: bbs for debian?

1998-02-26 Thread Pere Camps
Hamish,

 So I have a cronjob to kill dosemu daily, and dosemu runs from a script
 which just runs it over and over again. Same as the power reset on
 the old machine, but nicer. You could also have an external event
 from your mailer to run EXITEMU instead of the kill. My system survived
 ok for 12 days while I was overseas like this.

It's a good idea to do this. We were thinking about the
possibility of an external watchdog for our DOS machine, but I think we
will be able to save that with Linux.

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SOCKS5 and Secure Shell Packages

1998-02-26 Thread Paulo Jorge de Almeida
Hi!

I am looking for pre-compiled ready-to-install SOCKS5 1.0r4 and Secure Shell 
debian packages. I already have the source code, but since I am installing 
these aplications on quite a few machines, it would make my job easier if I 
could install them directly without having to compile everything over and over.

Can anyone tell me where I can find the packages I need? I searched the Debian 
site but found nothing.

Thanks in advance.
Paulo

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Re: Server Questions (fwd)

1998-02-26 Thread Oliver Elphick
Nathan E Norman wrote:
  No-one on this list uses Debian as a news server?  Nobody's running SMP?
  There's no interest whatsoever in tech support for Debian?  (I know
  Bruce posted something about it a while ago ...)
...
  Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 02:14:22 -0600 (CST)
  From: Nathan E Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: Debian User List debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Server Questions [mildly offtopic]
  ...
  What I'm looking for is this:  If you're running SMP, does it work well?
  Problems?  Hints?  Same with news ... does a specific version of INN do
  the trick?  Any special kernel configs?  You get the idea.

I haven't used SMP.  I know it needs the 2.1 kernel series.

INN works OK - no kernel tweaks necessary.  I use it as a local service and
batch download with slurp.

  
  Oh, and before I forget ... I heard there is a company providing phone
  support for Debian Linux.  If this is true, who is it?  What are the
  rates?  I work for a corporation that is becoming comfortable with the
  idea of Linux, but wants tech support available.  I'd rather run Debian
  than RedHat/Caldera, so please help!

Bruce was trying to start something, but I've heard nothing for a while.
I wouldn't want to do telephone support, considering the time difference...

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Re: SOCKS5 and Secure Shell Packages

1998-02-26 Thread jdassen
On Thu, Feb 26, 1998 at 04:05:52PM -, Paulo Jorge de Almeida wrote:
 I am looking for pre-compiled ready-to-install SOCKS5 1.0r4 

I can't find a socks5 package. If you are interested in making a package for
it, please check out http://www.debian.org/devel/help.html .

 and Secure Shell debian packages.

This is available from nonUS sites. See
http://www.debian.org/misc/README.non-US .

HTH,
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Re: IMAP4-4.1 Broken

1998-02-26 Thread David Gaudine

On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Dale Harrison wrote:

 Can someone else out there in Debianland confirm this?
 
 IMAP4-4.1 won't delete messages. It might be a new feature or something, but
 as there was no dox with it, it's hard to tell.
 
 I downgraded to IMAP4-4 and everything's hunky dory.

IMAP4-4.1 gave me trouble too.  However, since I started having problems
with IMAP, POP3, and smail simultaneously, I assumed the problem was
with smail, and didn't bother downgrading IMAP4.  After reading your
message I did, and my problems are gone.  Outlook Express gives a warning
that I need an IMAP 4 rev 1 server, but works fine.

Using IMAP4-4.1, my symptoms are different from yours.  When I run
Outlook Express, it downloads the message headers, and then
immediately says your server has unexpectedly terminated the
connection.  If I use the arrow keys fast enough so that the server is
kept busy sending the message bodies, the connection does not get
terminated, until it's no longer busy, at which point it is immediately
terminated.  From then on, I cannot download additional message bodies
or delete messages because I'm not connected to the server; actually
I can download a message by clicking on its header and then selecting
file/connect, which downloads the message and then gives the
unexpectedly terminated message again.

Further on the subject of IMAP4, I'm not sure of the best way to access
messages on both the host and the PC.  What I do now is, since accessing
my mail from the PC causes the messages to be transferred from
/var/spool/mail/david to ~david/mbox, I set up procmail to send all
unfiltered mail to that file, and set up pine to use that file as its
default inbox.  This seems to work great, but I only set it up yesterday.
One minor annoyance; if I read a message on one system it's still unread
on the other.


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-02-26 Thread Lee Bradshaw
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Art,
  
  I'd like to see your solution and also your headers.  Could you post a
  copy of your headers for those of us reading the digest version of the
  mailing list?  Or just reply to this mail?  I guess your message will
  eventually show up in the archive, but it wasn't there yet.
 
  Hi, Lee.  I CC'd a copy to you just now while posting the
 answer to the list.  I'm a newbie, but maybe my little bit tweaking
 to your's and Daniel's solutions will help.  Oh, and this comes from
 my LINUX box, so check out the full header, and let me know if anything
 else needs changing.  Thanks.
 
   _Art
  
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keeping cvs servers synchronized

1998-02-26 Thread Remco van de Meent
Hey,

Anyone know of a nice way to keep different CVS servers synchronized with
each other?


bye,
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RE: IMAP4-4.1 Broken

1998-02-26 Thread Timm Gleason
My officemate and I had similar problems when we switched to Outlook. I do
not know what version our IMAP server is running, but the problem seemed to
go away once we bumped the timeout up to 3 to 4 minutes.

Timm Gleason
Hardware Engineer
N2H2, Inc

-Original Message-
From: David Gaudine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 1998 8:27 AM
To: Dale Harrison
Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: IMAP4-4.1 Broken



On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Dale Harrison wrote:

 Can someone else out there in Debianland confirm this?

 IMAP4-4.1 won't delete messages. It might be a new feature or something,
but
 as there was no dox with it, it's hard to tell.

 I downgraded to IMAP4-4 and everything's hunky dory.

IMAP4-4.1 gave me trouble too.  However, since I started having problems
with IMAP, POP3, and smail simultaneously, I assumed the problem was
with smail, and didn't bother downgrading IMAP4.  After reading your
message I did, and my problems are gone.  Outlook Express gives a warning
that I need an IMAP 4 rev 1 server, but works fine.

Using IMAP4-4.1, my symptoms are different from yours.  When I run
Outlook Express, it downloads the message headers, and then
immediately says your server has unexpectedly terminated the
connection.  If I use the arrow keys fast enough so that the server is
kept busy sending the message bodies, the connection does not get
terminated, until it's no longer busy, at which point it is immediately
terminated.  From then on, I cannot download additional message bodies
or delete messages because I'm not connected to the server; actually
I can download a message by clicking on its header and then selecting
file/connect, which downloads the message and then gives the
unexpectedly terminated message again.

Further on the subject of IMAP4, I'm not sure of the best way to access
messages on both the host and the PC.  What I do now is, since accessing
my mail from the PC causes the messages to be transferred from
/var/spool/mail/david to ~david/mbox, I set up procmail to send all
unfiltered mail to that file, and set up pine to use that file as its
default inbox.  This seems to work great, but I only set it up yesterday.
One minor annoyance; if I read a message on one system it's still unread
on the other.


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Re: Lee: Re: smail Solution for Dynamic IP's

1998-02-26 Thread Lee Bradshaw
Sorry for the previous empty message.

Art, is your local user name alemas?  My problem is that if I use my isp
for the visible name, I get a from [EMAIL PROTECTED].  Notice
there is no colon after the from.  This is [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Unfortunately my email address is lee.bradshaw and my login on the local
system is bradshaw.  I think with this from  line incorrect mindspring
sets the Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which sends my bounced
email to another user.  visible_name needs to be something that can
be looked up, because my email seems to be rejected when I use from
[EMAIL PROTECTED].  The From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] is
correct, but I haven't found a way to modify the username part of the
from  line to replace bradshaw with lee.bradshaw.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi Art,
  
  I'd like to see your solution and also your headers.  Could you post
  a copy of your headers for those of us reading the digest version of
  the mailing list?  Or just reply to this mail?  I guess your message
  will eventually show up in the archive, but it wasn't there yet.
 
  Hi, Lee.  I CC'd a copy to you just now while posting the answer
 to the list.  I'm a newbie, but maybe my little bit tweaking to your's
 and Daniel's solutions will help.  Oh, and this comes from my LINUX
 box, so check out the full header, and let me know if anything else
 needs changing.  Thanks.
 
   _Art
  
  Thanks
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Re: Dosemu-problems

1998-02-26 Thread Gernot Bauer
 Verify that /usr/lib/dosemu/config.dist exists
 
 go to /etc as root
 do a 
 $ rm -f conf
 $ ln -s /usr/lib/dosemu/config.dist conf
 
 and that should do the job !
 
Dear Jean-Michel,

thanx a lot, that was the solution. 

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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-26 Thread Gary Kline
According to Jean Pierre LeJacq:
 On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI
  drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that
  I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system.  
  
  After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've
  come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot
  track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux.
  
  I'd be much obliged for some work-arounds here.  Am I using
  the wrong rescue disk or what?
 
 Are you booting from the rescue floppy disk.  If yes, then indeed you
 will be using the RAM-fs.  You can either use the boot floppy disk or
 LILO installed on the hard disk.
 

Both the hard drive and the  rescue floppy throw me 
into the RAM-fs.  (In fact, trying to re-install FreeBSD
from its floppy disk is impossible.)  

I'd like BSD on my second SCSI; Debian on my first and
third, but  (??)

gary




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RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Richardson,Anthony

I had already done what is suggested below, but no luck.  The following:
  chroot /home/ftp /bin/ls
gives
  chroot: cannot execute /bin/ls: No such file or directory
(using ls or bin/ls instead of /bin/ls gives the same message).

I've got all the libraries copied to /home/ftp/lib, but still no luck.

Any other ideas?
Continued thanks,
Tony Richardson


 -Original Message-
From: Ossama Othman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 1998 8:47 AM
To: debian-user
Subject: RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

Run ldd on ls.   For example,

 ldd /bin/ls   (you need the absolute path)

You should get output like:

libc.so.6 = /lib/libc.so.6 (0x4000f000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 = /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x4000)

Copy the the libraries from the ldd output to ~ftp/lib, or wherever the
above libraries are relative to root (i.e. if in /usr/lib, copy to
~ftp/usr/lib).  Make sure the libraries have a+rx permissions.

Good luck.

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Re: Using Debian Linux for Dumb Terminals

1998-02-26 Thread Jeff Alami



Well, I recently found out that the Equinox Megaport 8CS is not a dumb
UART board--not supported by Linux. 

If you're looking for a multiport serial board with support for Linux,
you have two recommended options. If the computer you connect it to is
fast, and you want to save money, you can get a Boca BB-2008 for about
US $199 (8 ports).

If your processor is low on power, you can get a Cyclades Cyclom-Y
board with 8 ports for about US $600. Check out their Web sites at
http://www.bocaresearch.com and http://www.cyclades.com. Hope this
helps.

Jeff

---Lindsay Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 I have been following the thread.  My school (the one I'm the Tech
for)
 could use an 8 port card but $$$ are in short supply.  Have you got
any
 pointers to not-so-expensive cards?
 
 The idea here is to have several modems for dial-in use.
 
 Lindsay
 
 On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Jeff Alami wrote:
 
  ---Damon Muller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Are there any information resources I can look at which will show
   instructions on setting up a multiport serial card with dumb
  terminals
   for
   Linux?
   
   We have a 16-port BocaBoard, and there is a very handly little
HOWTO
  for
   setting up this little bit of hardware. Needs the Kernel to be
  recompiled,
   but it's pretty easy, and I got it up and working in no time.
   
   It's called the boca-Mini-HOWTO from memory
   
  Thanks for the help. I have an 8-port Equinox Megaport 8CS--we
  currently use it for SCO UNIX. Equinox has Linux drivers for their
  SuperSerial boards, but apparently those boards are different. I
  believe the Megaport is just a dumb 16550A UART board. How can I set
  that up?
  

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Re: Server Questions (fwd)

1998-02-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Hi,

 I haven't used SMP.  I know it needs the 2.1 kernel series.

I believe that you may be incorrect.  We have someone running 2.0.33 with
SMP enabled since he has 2 Pentium II processors in his system.  If you
need SMP, you will probably have to recompile the kernel source manually.

Do your make {menu,x}config (whichever you use).  Then edit the top level
makefile (usually /usr/src/linux/Makefile) and remove the SMP comments so
that it looks like something like:

#
# For SMP kernels, set this. We don't want to have this in the config file
#because it makes re-config very ugly and too many fundamental files depend
# on CONFIG_SMP
#
# NOTE! SMP is experimental. See the file Documentation/SMP.txt
#
SMP = 1
#
# SMP profiling options
SMP_PROF = 1

As far as I know, this is the only way to enable SMP.  Do a make dep;
make clean then compile the kernel with a make zImage
(again, or whatever you use), for example.  Install the kernel when done.

I'm not sure about the modules, but it is probably safer to recompile them
(make modules; make modules_install).  

After you've installed the new kernel reboot your system and you should
now have an SMPing kernel running.

-Ossama


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Nondestructively partition ext2 fs?

1998-02-26 Thread Sudhakar Chandrasekharan
Is there an ext2 equivalent of fips?  I have a lot of space on the disk
which I am mounting as /usr/local.  I want to partition it and use one
partition as /opt.

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Re: Server Questions (fwd)

1998-02-26 Thread Tim Sailer
Ossama Othman wrote:
 I believe that you may be incorrect.  We have someone running 2.0.33 with
 SMP enabled since he has 2 Pentium II processors in his system.  If you
 need SMP, you will probably have to recompile the kernel source manually.
 
 Do your make {menu,x}config (whichever you use).  Then edit the top level
 makefile (usually /usr/src/linux/Makefile) and remove the SMP comments so
 that it looks like something like:
 
 #
 # For SMP kernels, set this. We don't want to have this in the config file
 #because it makes re-config very ugly and too many fundamental files depend
 # on CONFIG_SMP
 #
 # NOTE! SMP is experimental. See the file Documentation/SMP.txt
 #
 SMP = 1
 #
 # SMP profiling options
 SMP_PROF = 1

Correct. We have a dual p5-200 running .29.


mail~ uptime
 12:18pm  up 110 days, 18:58h,  3 users,  load average: 0.14, 0.12, 0.12

This moves many gigs of email, and handles thousands of pop3 hits a day,
and barely breaks a sweat, while doing the other things we are using the
box for..

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RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Ossama Othman
Why are you trying to chroot to /bin/ls?  The ftpd daemon automatically
does a chroot when someone logs in as anonymous or ftp.  Here is an
excerpt from the ftpd man page.  Did you follow what it says?

 FROM LINUX FTPD MAN PAGE ---
In the last case, ftpd takes special measures to restrict the client's 
access privileges.  The server performs a chroot(2) to the home directory 
of the ``ftp'' user.  In order that system security is not breached, it is 
recommended that the ``ftp'' subtree be constructed with care, following
these rules:

~ftpMake the home directory owned by ``root'' and unwritable
by anyone (mode 555).

~ftp/bin  Make this directory owned by ``root'' and unwritable by
  anyone (mode 511).  The program ls(1) must be present to
  support the list command.  This program should be mode
  111 (executable only).

~ftp/etc  Make this directory owned by ``root'' and unwritable by
  anyone (mode 511).  The files pwd.db (see pwd_mkdb(8))
  and group(5) must be present for the ls command to be
  able to produce owner names rather than numbers.  The
  password field in pwd.db is not used, and should not 
  contain real passwords.  The file motd, if present, will
  be printed after a successful login.  These files should
  be mode 444.

~ftp/pub  Make this directory mode 555 and owned by ``root''.
  This is traditionally where publically accessible files
  are stored for download.


I've setup several anonymous ftp servers following similar directions on
Solaris machines, too.  The above setup procedure seems to be pretty
standard, except for some character devices that are placed in ~ftp/dev.

If you can tell me/us specifically what you have done and what
problems/errors you get, it will be easier to determine what is wrong.  I
apologize if you have already done this.  I just got on to this list last
night.

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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-26 Thread Jean Pierre LeJacq
On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:

 According to Jean Pierre LeJacq:
  On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
  
   However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI
   drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that
   I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system.  
   
   After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've
   come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot
   track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux.
   
  Are you booting from the rescue floppy disk.  If yes, then indeed you
  will be using the RAM-fs.  You can either use the boot floppy disk or
  LILO installed on the hard disk.
  
   Both the hard drive and the  rescue floppy throw me 
   into the RAM-fs.  (In fact, trying to re-install FreeBSD
   from its floppy disk is impossible.)  

Does the same thing happen when booting from your boot floppy?  Did
you install LILO on the harddisk?  If so, send me the /etc/lilo.conf.

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Question

1998-02-26 Thread Erik Rodríguez
Hello:

Can anybody help me?

I have Windows NT Workstation and Debian Linux installed on my computer, 
usually i download files from Internet in Windows 95 (at the office), 
today i downloaded the java-linux package but i have it in Win 95, how 
can i put it in my home's linux machine, the problem is that my linux 
isn't connected to a network, but it's installed in the same PC as 
Windows NT.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Nondestructively partition ext2 fs?

1998-02-26 Thread Ulisses Alonso Camaro
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On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Sudhakar Chandrasekharan wrote:

 Is there an ext2 equivalent of fips?  I have a lot of space on the disk
 which I am mounting as /usr/local.  I want to partition it and use one
 partition as /opt.
 
 Thaths


I asked that sometime ago without successful in several resources...
It seems it doesn't exist yet... I think there is a project towards
Logical Volume Manager with ext2 somewhere...

Also, there is on the fly compression for ext2 (without modificacions),
also avaliable as debian package... the name is e2compr

regards,

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Keyboard + Terminal settings

1998-02-26 Thread Daniel Doro Ferrante


Hi All !

I have been trying to make my TTY work with accented characters.
So far, I have loaded a keymap that is essentialy us.map modified with
dead_letters where the accents are supposed to be. (I have compared to
pt.map - portuguese map and things look more or less the same, though my
keyboard layout is the usual international one, and so, may accents are
generated a bit different)

I have also loaded a mapscrn trivial, lat16u.psf fonts, sent the
escape character \\033(k (or similar... :) ) to the TTY's on startup
and
nothing happened up to now :(

Any help is welcome !

 Begin here -

#! /bin/sh
#
# boot  boot-time system configuration.
#
# Version:  @(#)boot  2.10  26-Apr-1997  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#
#   Copyright (C) 1994-1997 Debian Association, Inc.
#   Written by Ian Murdock [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#  and Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#

#
# This script desperately needs to parse a config file
# (like /etc/default/boot) instead of having to edit it directly!
#

 [...]

#
# Set pseudo-terminal access permissions.
#
chmod 666 /dev/tty[p-za-e][0-9a-f]
chown root.tty /dev/tty[p-za-e][0-9a-f]

#
# Set pseudo-terminal access permissions and some
# video settings.
#
# Danish-HOWTO - echo -ne '\033(K'
#
INITTY=/dev/tty[1-6]
/usr/bin/setfont /usr/lib/kbd/consolefonts/lat1u-16.psf
mapscrn /usr/lib/kbd/consoletrans/trivial
for tty in $INITTY
do
  echo -ne '\033(K'  $tty
#  echo -n -e '\\033(K'  $tty
done
/usr/bin/setvesablank on

#
# Load the keymaps *as soon as possible*
#
if [ -r /etc/kbd/default.map ]
then
  loadkeys /etc/kbd/default.map
fi


- End  Here --


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Re: trouble with the boot-block..

1998-02-26 Thread Gary Kline
According to Jean Pierre LeJacq:
 On Thu, 26 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
 
  According to Jean Pierre LeJacq:
   On Wed, 25 Feb 1998, Gary Kline wrote:
   
However, after installing Debian on my first and third SCSI
drives and *not* using LILO as the boot manager, I found that
I __always__ boot into Debian, into a RAM file system.  

After re-installing both OS's from scratch several times I've
come to the conclusion that something is causing the master boot
track to always throw me into the re-install RAM-fs of Linux.

   Are you booting from the rescue floppy disk.  If yes, then indeed you
   will be using the RAM-fs.  You can either use the boot floppy disk or
   LILO installed on the hard disk.
   
  Both the hard drive and the  rescue floppy throw me 
  into the RAM-fs.  (In fact, trying to re-install FreeBSD
  from its floppy disk is impossible.)  
 
 Does the same thing happen when booting from your boot floppy?  Did
 you install LILO on the harddisk?  If so, send me the /etc/lilo.conf.
 

Yes, once I did install LILO to my harddisk;
then I brought up the menu again and chose 
``NO'' when asked.  Evidently, once the loader
installs, it's forever!  

I'll have to check /etc/lilo.conf  (if I can
get to it) tonight  my time.   Last night I
poked around using the ash shell but couldn't
make much sense of the fs layout.  Would lilo.conf
perhaps be in /target/etc/lilo.conf?  

BTW, this (Debian + FBSD) is on a separate box.
Not yet linked to the rest of the world... .

gary


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Re: traceroute program?

1998-02-26 Thread Jose Luis Garcia Pacheco
Maybe netstd?

bash-2.01$ dpkg -S tracer*
scotty: /usr/doc/examples/scotty/traceroute.1
netstd: /usr/doc/netstd/examples/traceroute/mean.awk
scotty: /usr/doc/examples/scotty/traceroute
netstd: /usr/sbin/traceroute
netstd: /usr/doc/netstd/examples/traceroute/README.awk
netstd: /usr/doc/netstd/examples/traceroute
netstd: /usr/doc/netstd/examples/traceroute/median.awk
netstd: /usr/man/man8/traceroute.8.gz


bash-2.01$ dpkg -s netstd
Package: netstd
Status: install ok installed
Priority: standard
Section: net
Installed-Size: 1297
Maintainer: Peter Tobias [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Version: 3.02-1
Depends: cpp, libc6, libreadlineg2 (= 2.1-4), ncurses3.4
Pre-Depends: netbase (= 3.00)
Suggests: wu-ftpd, dip, mail-transport-agent
Conffiles:
 /etc/bootptab ca74a74efcdd3cbd1e2c9fd0fff399ca
 /etc/exports 9033c31f29af713cfa551193e4a4ce0b
 /etc/ftpusers d141bdd8e0b1aa2e5e4023345b3fbc9a
 /etc/hosts.equiv d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e
 /etc/pcnfsd.conf 551a6de393c08a1b60491b2d81f519e5
 /etc/bootparams a6bf99f5d041c60244c1e1c077fa7b80
 /etc/init.d/netstd_init e2033f1e3c2c0f64afe21cb8732ef55f
 /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs 81fc18dd42a281de4ad6f35e2592f3d4
 /etc/init.d/netstd_misc 19fa9954991ddb67c3f8ec3f02fc02d2
Description: Networking binaries and daemons for Linux


On Sat, 21 Feb 1998, Paul Miller wrote:

 What package contains the traceroute program (not mtr, something similar
 to microsoft's tracert.exe program).
 
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Problems with libc6

1998-02-26 Thread Robson Francisco de Souza

Hi all,

I have been trying to upgrade a friend's system from Debian 1.3.1
to Debian 2.0 (hamm) and although every program compiled for libc6 are
working fine, many, but not all, programs compiled for libc5 don't work.
For those programs when I use ldd I get an output like

ldd ftp
libreadline.so.2 = /lib/libreadline.so.2 (0x4000a000)
libc.so.5 = /lib/libc.so.5 (0x4002b000)
libncurses.so.3.0 = /lib/libncurses.so.3.0 (0x400e9000)  
libc.so.6 = /lib/libc-2.0.6.so

why do both libraries are being called? Does it have something to do with
other needed libraries (like libreadline.so.2)? And, above all, how can I
solve this mess?
Any help is welcome. Thanx ;-)

Robson.

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RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Richardson,Anthony

I'm not chroot'ing  to /bin/ls but to /home/ftp.
The reason I tried to chroot to /home/ftp and run ls is to troubleshoot
the anonymous ftp login problem.  It's a lot easier to just make changes
and use chroot than to ftp/login/check/logout.  I figure the chroot   
problem
and the fact that ls doesn't work from an anonymous ftp login are   
related.

I did follow the steps in the ftpd man page.  Except for setting up the
pwd.db file in etc (the pwd_mkdb command doesn't exist).  I don't think
this is the problem though and the man page says this is just necessary
to print names instead of numbers in ls output.  (I did copy passwd and
group files to etc while trying to find the problem.)

In addition to the man page instructions is there anything else I need to
do?

Thanks again,
Tony Richardson

 -Original Message-
From: Ossama Othman [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 1998 12:34 PM
To: Richardson,Anthony
Cc: debian-user
Subject: RE: Setting up Anon FTP?

Why are you trying to chroot to /bin/ls?  The ftpd daemon automatically
does a chroot when someone logs in as anonymous or ftp.  Here is an
excerpt from the ftpd man page.  Did you follow what it says?

  FROM LINUX FTPD MAN PAGE ---
In the last case, ftpd takes special measures to restrict the client's
access privileges.  The server performs a chroot(2) to the home directory   

of the ``ftp'' user.  In order that system security is not breached, it   
is
recommended that the ``ftp'' subtree be constructed with care, following
these rules:

 ~ftp Make the home directory owned by ``root'' and unwritable
  by anyone (mode 555).

 ~ftp/bin  Make this directory owned by ``root'' and unwritable by
  anyone (mode 511).  The program ls(1) must be present   
to
  support the list command.  This program should be mode
  111 (executable only).

~ftp/etc  Make this directory owned by ``root'' and unwritable by
  anyone (mode 511).  The files pwd.db (see pwd_mkdb(8))
  and group(5) must be present for the ls command to be
  able to produce owner names rather than numbers.  The
  password field in pwd.db is not used, and should not
contain real passwords.  The file motd, if present, will
be printed after a successful login.  These files should
be mode 444.

 ~ftp/pub  Make this directory mode 555 and owned by ``root''.
This is traditionally where publically accessible files
are stored for download.
 

I've setup several anonymous ftp servers following similar directions on
Solaris machines, too.  The above setup procedure seems to be pretty
standard, except for some character devices that are placed in ~ftp/dev.

If you can tell me/us specifically what you have done and what
problems/errors you get, it will be easier to determine what is wrong.  I
apologize if you have already done this.  I just got on to this list last
night.

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Re: Setting up Anon FTP?

1998-02-26 Thread Alan Su
Ossama Othman wrote (Thu, 26 Feb 1998 12:31:56 -0500 (EST) ):
|Why are you trying to chroot to /bin/ls?  The ftpd daemon automatically
|does a chroot when someone logs in as anonymous or ftp.  Here is an
|excerpt from the ftpd man page.  Did you follow what it says?
|

Tony was trying to diagnose the problem, the same problem I'm having.
Namely, ls depends on libc (at least) and simply copying the library
to the ~ftp/lib directory doesn't work.  The man page mentions nothing
about this, leading me to believe that it assumes that ls is
statically linked.

-alan


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Re: DEBIAN or REDHAT ?

1998-02-26 Thread Ian Eure
Ossama Othman wrote:

 Hi,

 I am currently using hamm and am very happy with it.  I will be
 installing a new Linux system soon but everyone is telling me to install
 RedHat 5.  Has anyone any opinions on this?  I tend to be partial to
 Debian, especially with GNOME being integrated into hamm.  However, I've
 never used Redhat.

 Also, I've been advised that RedHat puts out security fixes the next day
 after a CERT advisory is released.  How is Debian when it comes to
 security and other patches?  When I was using bo, patches weren't released
 very often.  Is this an indication that RedHat is more buggy, or is it an
 indication that Debian is more stable?  For example, when the CERT
 advisory for SSH-AGENT was release over a week ago, one of the OSes that
 responded to the CERT advisory was RedHat.  Much to my dismay, Debian
 wasn't one of the OSes that was mentioned on the CERT list.  I ended up
 compiling SSH on my own.

 Thanks in advance for any suggestions or tips.


Personally, I find RedHat to be incredibly irritating. Every time I've
installed it, I ran into problems. Stupid things, like LILO not getting
installed because the kernel was dropped into a different directory than it
should have been. And their X tools are ugly :) I've been a die-hard Slackware
user for ~3 years now, but I recently switched to Debian. It's completely
free, _very_ standard, and updates/patches are put out much more often than
with Slackware. One of the most irritating things about RH is that it is the
most visible Linux distribution, but is so poorly made- you end up going into
what feels very much like a No, I don't use Windows 95 conversation with
people who aren't linux literate.


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