Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-12 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/11/2009 5:32 AM:

 Is there a solution about this? Hope I was clear.

 Like many consumer gadgets, this one was designed for the Winders world,
 and uses proprietary closed source drivers.  Any hope of getting this
 working with a Linux PC will depend on D-Link's support staff.  You need
 to contact them directly, if you haven't already.  Ask them for a Linux
 version of the SharePort utility. (Then listen for the sound of muffled
 laughter in the background).
I will do this as soon as it will be possible, as their form is still
not finished yet!

 In short, I believe you're simply screwed.
You are right.
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-11 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/10/2009 2:40 PM:
 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:
 
 I receive the same answer with
 #smbclient -L //192.168.0.1
 
 The problem with non-noname devices is that their internal config is
 often misunderstood, or simply unknown...

 Would you please backup to the very beginning and tell us what you're
 trying to accomplish?
For sure.
  Here's what I'm reading:

 You're trying to hook up a USB HDD correct?
Yes, with my router.
  Most laptops and desktops
 have a gazillion USB ports on them these days.  Why are you hell bent on
 connecting the HDD to the el cheapo DLink router instead of directly to
 your Debian PC?  ESPECIALLY given the fact that DLink obviously doesn't
 offer Linux support for your particular router.
For many different reasons, the principal one being that I use lots of 
computers, and I need to access to this HDD with each
computer without having to make sync's.

So, to backup to the very beginning: I need to use a HDD on different
computers. To make this easy with the different OSes and other config
problems, it would be a nice alternative to share it on my network. To
achieve this, I need to connect it to my router, as I cannot have another
dedicated server for practical reasons.

I discovered then the D-Link's SharePort utility. It was nice, as my
router is a D-Link DIR-635. I thought you knew some things about
SharePort. As it seems not to be the case, just have a look at, for
example:
http://www.techfresh.net/d-link-shareport-technology/
It is still not raw information as I want it to be (specs., etc.), but
the only pieces of info I can find about SharePort are general ones.

So, I do not know how I could manage to connect my PCs to my D-Link's
USB port. I have plugged a HDD drive into it, and it should
work. However, it does not work under Debian Lenny. I tried various
things with smbclient, but the connexion is always qualified as
`REFUSED.'' I do not know why, because it also happens when I supply a
password and an username (even though they are correct). I do not
actually even know if I can use smbclient with it, as it can use
another implementation than CIFS.

Is there a solution about this? Hope I was clear.
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-11 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br writes:

 Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Thanks for this trick. Unfortunately,
 # smbclient 192.168.0.1 password -U Admin

 192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

 # smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
 Connection to 192.168.0.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)

 I have seen in smbclient's manpages that a password can be
 given. Where do I have to put it? I tried everywhere in
 # smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
 but I always read
 192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

 Any idea?

 OK, it should be smbclient -L //192.168.0.1 (or whatever IP is used)

 You use the fact that the share is CIFS-based, but I am not sure that
 it is. I read the whole (trivial) manual, and various messages on the
 Internet, but I never found any standard specification about the
 sharing protocol D-Link uses. Thanks for any idea.

 In this case, it might not be possible to access the driver under Linux.
 If they use some proprietary protocol, someone has to write Linux
 support for it. And if it's not published anywhere, it becomes quite
 difficult for someone else to implement the protocol.

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-11 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:

 Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/10/2009 7:44 AM:
 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:
 
 A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
 the right tool for the job.
 I think you misunderstood what I wanted. I have no Ethernet capability
 on my HDDs and it is still too expensive to use this solution.

 Obviously I misunderstood.  Maybe you can give us a quick explanation of
 exactly what DLink SharePort is/does; what it is for.  I was under the
 impression you were merely trying to connect (network) your Debian box
 to the router via USB instead of via ethernet.  There was no mention of
 a hard disk drive in your original post.  I think you assumed everyone
 here knows what DLink's SharePort is--but we don't.

 So, now we've gone from Win Problem to can't connect to my HDD.  Two
 very different issues.

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-11 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/11/2009 5:32 AM:

 Is there a solution about this? Hope I was clear.

Like many consumer gadgets, this one was designed for the Winders world,
and uses proprietary closed source drivers.  Any hope of getting this
working with a Linux PC will depend on D-Link's support staff.  You need
to contact them directly, if you haven't already.  Ask them for a Linux
version of the SharePort utility. (Then listen for the sound of muffled
laughter in the background).

In short, I believe you're simply screwed.

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

Please note I am just guessing.

On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
 used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
 under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
 router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
 want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
 
 I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
 there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?

Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.

It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
configuration tools.

What do you want to do with that USB port.  Attach HDD? Attach Printer?

Once you know how it communicates with clients, you may find tools to
access it.  My bet is: 

 * CUPS for printer
 * SAMBA for HDD

As I understand most of these routers, they can be accessed by HTTP for
their configuration via web page.  Do you know your routers address.
Suppose it is 192.168.0.1 , point your browser to it.  You may need to
read manual to find out password for it.  My router uses:
http://web.setup/ .

Good luck,

Osamu

PS: My router has USB port which can be attached to HDD.  I have not
tried it but it seems it provide files via SAMBA for Linux.



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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:


 A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
 the right tool for the job.
I think you misunderstood what I wanted. I have no Ethernet capability
on my HDDs and it is still too expensive to use this solution.
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org writes:

 Hi,

 Please note I am just guessing.

 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
 used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
 under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
 router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
 want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
 
 I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
 there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?

 Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
 you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.

 It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
 configuration tools.

 What do you want to do with that USB port.  Attach HDD? Attach Printer?

 Once you know how it communicates with clients, you may find tools to
 access it.  My bet is: 

  * CUPS for printer
  * SAMBA for HDD

 As I understand most of these routers, they can be accessed by HTTP for
 their configuration via web page.  Do you know your routers address.
 Suppose it is 192.168.0.1 , point your browser to it.  You may need to
 read manual to find out password for it.  My router uses:
 http://web.setup/ .

 Good luck,

 Osamu

 PS: My router has USB port which can be attached to HDD.  I have not
 tried it but it seems it provide files via SAMBA for Linux.

 Thanks.
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Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net writes:

 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:43:24 -0600
 From: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility
 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)

 On 2009-10-09_17:17:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/9/2009 4:42 PM:
  Hello,
  
  I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
  used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
  under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
  router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
  want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
  
  I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
  there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
 
 A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
 the right tool for the job.
 

 I have several D-Link routers. I have always configured them using firefox
 and, more recently, iceweasel. I think any browser will do. 

 Point your browser at the default D-Link url, which is 192.168.0.1
 The router has a tiny local web server inside. The log-in dialog expects
 username, admin , and NO password. The documentation makes a big point of
 setting a password -- Don't set a password, if you do set a password make
 sure it is one that is totally obvious and impossible for you to forget, 
 like your given name. Note that the url is in the private network url space.
 You can change it to something else, but doing so just makes your life more
 difficult. Don't change it. 

 If you do set a password or change the url, you can recover from your
 error by using a paper-clip to press a reset switch that hides inside
 a little hole near the power jack.

 HTH
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Thanks for your help, but I know these things: I have already
configured everything on my router, but I do know *how* to access its
USB port without the D-Link Shareport utility: is there a port on,
say, 192.168.0.1 (the local IP of my LAN DHCP server, i.e. my router),
where I can reach its USB port?

Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org writes:

 Hi,
 
 Please note I am just guessing.

 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
 used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
 under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
 router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
 want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
 
 I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
 there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?

 Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
 you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.

 It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
 configuration tools.
I

Re: [pecon...@mesanetworks.net: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility]

2009-10-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net writes:

 Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:43:24 -0600
 From: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net
 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility
 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)

 On 2009-10-09_17:17:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/9/2009 4:42 PM:
  Hello,
  
  I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
  used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
  under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
  router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
  want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
  
  I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
  there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
 
 A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
 the right tool for the job.
 

 I have several D-Link routers. I have always configured them using firefox
 and, more recently, iceweasel. I think any browser will do. 

 Point your browser at the default D-Link url, which is 192.168.0.1
 The router has a tiny local web server inside. The log-in dialog expects
 username, admin , and NO password. The documentation makes a big point of
 setting a password -- Don't set a password, if you do set a password make
 sure it is one that is totally obvious and impossible for you to forget, 
 like your given name. Note that the url is in the private network url space.
 You can change it to something else, but doing so just makes your life more
 difficult. Don't change it. 

 If you do set a password or change the url, you can recover from your
 error by using a paper-clip to press a reset switch that hides inside
 a little hole near the power jack.

 HTH
 -- 
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 pecon...@mesanetworks.net

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Thanks for your help, but I know these things: I have already
configured everything on my router, but I do know *how* to access its
USB port without the D-Link Shareport utility: is there a port on,
say, 192.168.0.1 (the local IP of my LAN DHCP server, i.e. my router),
where I can reach its USB port?

Osamu Aoki os...@debian.org writes:

 Hi,
 
 Please note I am just guessing.

 On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 11:42:52PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
 used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
 under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
 router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
 want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
 
 I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
 there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?

 Basically, hardware configuration tools are quite platform specific.  If
 you expect it to work under wine, you may not be so lucky.

 It is usually better to think about using device than using proprietary
 configuration tools.
I know.
 
 What do you want to do with that USB port.  Attach HDD? Attach
 Printer?
I would like to attach HDD.
 
 Once you know how it communicates with clients, you may find tools to
 access it.  My bet is: 

 * CUPS for printer
 * SAMBA for HDD
To use such clients, my router needs to use a Linux distro, doesn't
it? But how do I know which OS it is shipped with?

 As I understand most of these routers, they can be accessed by HTTP for
 their configuration via web page.  Do you know your routers address.
Yes.
 Suppose it is 192.168.0.1 , point your browser to it.  You may need to
 read manual to find out password for it.  My router uses:
 http://web.setup/ .
No problem, I have already installed everything which is linked to my
router, using its web interface. But, as I said at the top of this
message, I do know how to *reach* its USB port. 

A solution?
 
 Good luck,
 
 Osamu

 PS: My router has USB port which can be attached to HDD.  I have not
 tried it but it seems it provide files via SAMBA for Linux.
Which is model is your router?

Thanks.
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Merciadri Luca wrote:
 No problem, I have already installed everything which is linked to my
 router, using its web interface. But, as I said at the top of this
 message, I do know how to *reach* its USB port.

I'd suppose the hard-drive is shared via CIFS (the Windows protocol for
sharing drivers, printers, etc), so it's accessible via SAMBA under Linux.

Try smbclient -L 192.168.0.1 to see a list of shares. Then you can mount
it with mount.cifs //192.168.0.1/share_name /some/local/directory

There are other tools for browsing and accessing SAMBA shares too, but I
don't know them well so I can't really recommend one.

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
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Eduardo M KALINOWSKI edua...@kalinowski.com.br writes:

 Merciadri Luca wrote:
 No problem, I have already installed everything which is linked to my
 router, using its web interface. But, as I said at the top of this
 message, I do know how to *reach* its USB port.

 I'd suppose the hard-drive is shared via CIFS (the Windows protocol for
 sharing drivers, printers, etc), so it's accessible via SAMBA under
 Linux.
Note that without D-Link's utility, it is not recognized by Microsoft
Windows. I am thus doubtful about the fact that it would be shared using CIFS.

 Try smbclient -L 192.168.0.1 to see a list of shares. Then you can mount
 it with mount.cifs //192.168.0.1/share_name /some/local/directory
Thanks for this trick. Unfortunately,
# smbclient 192.168.0.1 password -U Admin

192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

# smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
Connection to 192.168.0.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)

I have seen in smbclient's manpages that a password can be
given. Where do I have to put it? I tried everywhere in
# smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
but I always read
192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

Any idea?



 There are other tools for browsing and accessing SAMBA shares too, but I
 don't know them well so I can't really recommend one.
You use the fact that the share is CIFS-based, but I am not sure that
it is. I read the whole (trivial) manual, and various messages on the
Internet, but I never found any standard specification about the
sharing protocol D-Link uses. Thanks for any idea.
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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Merciadri Luca wrote:
 Thanks for this trick. Unfortunately,
 # smbclient 192.168.0.1 password -U Admin

 192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

 # smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
 Connection to 192.168.0.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)

 I have seen in smbclient's manpages that a password can be
 given. Where do I have to put it? I tried everywhere in
 # smbclient -U Admin -L 192.168.0.1
 but I always read
 192.168.0.1: Not enough '\' characters in service

 Any idea?

OK, it should be smbclient -L //192.168.0.1 (or whatever IP is used)

 You use the fact that the share is CIFS-based, but I am not sure that
 it is. I read the whole (trivial) manual, and various messages on the
 Internet, but I never found any standard specification about the
 sharing protocol D-Link uses. Thanks for any idea.

In this case, it might not be possible to access the driver under Linux.
If they use some proprietary protocol, someone has to write Linux
support for it. And if it's not published anywhere, it becomes quite
difficult for someone else to implement the protocol.


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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Merciadri Luca
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I receive the same answer with
#smbclient -L //192.168.0.1

The problem with non-noname devices is that their internal config is
often misunderstood, or simply unknown...

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/10/2009 7:44 AM:
 Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com writes:
 
 A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
 the right tool for the job.
 I think you misunderstood what I wanted. I have no Ethernet capability
 on my HDDs and it is still too expensive to use this solution.

Obviously I misunderstood.  Maybe you can give us a quick explanation of
exactly what DLink SharePort is/does; what it is for.  I was under the
impression you were merely trying to connect (network) your Debian box
to the router via USB instead of via ethernet.  There was no mention of
a hard disk drive in your original post.  I think you assumed everyone
here knows what DLink's SharePort is--but we don't.

So, now we've gone from Win Problem to can't connect to my HDD.  Two
very different issues.

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Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility

2009-10-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/10/2009 2:40 PM:
 Merciadri Luca luca.mercia...@student.ulg.ac.be writes:
 
 I receive the same answer with
 #smbclient -L //192.168.0.1
 
 The problem with non-noname devices is that their internal config is
 often misunderstood, or simply unknown...

Would you please backup to the very beginning and tell us what you're
trying to accomplish?  Here's what I'm reading:

You're trying to hook up a USB HDD correct?  Most laptops and desktops
have a gazillion USB ports on them these days.  Why are you hell bent on
connecting the HDD to the el cheapo DLink router instead of directly to
your Debian PC?  ESPECIALLY given the fact that DLink obviously doesn't
offer Linux support for your particular router.

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[pecon...@mesanetworks.net: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility]

2009-10-09 Thread Paul E Condon
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2009 20:43:24 -0600
From: Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: D-Link's Shareport USB Utility
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)

On 2009-10-09_17:17:26, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Merciadri Luca put forth on 10/9/2009 4:42 PM:
  Hello,
  
  I am using a D-Link router which D-Link's SharePort utility can be
  used with. Unfortunately, this utility seems not to work at all
  under Debian (Lenny). Shareport aims at allowing the OS to use the
  router's USB port. Shareport is built for Windows, but Wine does not
  want to install it correctly, as the installation ends prematurely.
  
  I do not even know how Shareport works. Is there any solution out
  there to allow Debian to look at my router's USB port?
 
 A better question is why aren't you using ethernet instead of USB?  Use
 the right tool for the job.
 

I have several D-Link routers. I have always configured them using firefox
and, more recently, iceweasel. I think any browser will do. 

Point your browser at the default D-Link url, which is 192.168.0.1
The router has a tiny local web server inside. The log-in dialog expects
username, admin , and NO password. The documentation makes a big point of
setting a password -- Don't set a password, if you do set a password make
sure it is one that is totally obvious and impossible for you to forget, 
like your given name. Note that the url is in the private network url space.
You can change it to something else, but doing so just makes your life more
difficult. Don't change it. 

If you do set a password or change the url, you can recover from your
error by using a paper-clip to press a reset switch that hides inside
a little hole near the power jack.

HTH
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