RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Yep, a configuration of WEIGHT10 DELETE and a WEIGHT20 HOLD would indeed delete a message with a weight of 21. Something you mentioned earlier prompts me to point out another thing; the veterans in the list generally regard HOLD messages not as something they have to check out several times a day

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: ASCII code

2004-04-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Yep, also 0x20, also #20 Andrew 8) -Original Message- From: John Tolmachoff (Lists) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2004 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: ASCII code A space is %20, correct? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Dangerous img dynsrc tag in body

2004-04-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Good tip! This is what the web page is using: http://netsecurity.about.com/cs/generalsecurity/a/aa021504.htm to download a file it creates called C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iesearch.exe by downloading and rename the file http://68.192.132.122:8067/mstasks.dat which my latest Trend

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] US Treasury cannot do it right?

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
OK if I am right the US Treasury Department needs help! Very much so: They identified themselves as 10.0.7.238 instead of a host.domain !!?? This is very bad. There are actually 3 problems with this: [1] They did not identify themselves using a host name, which is the standard method. [2] They

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Weight and Action Question

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
To paraphrase you JunkMail looks through all the actions of all the tests that have been tripped starting with the most severe (strict) DELETE and working down the list. That's another way of looking at it. In this case, if there is a conflict with an action that has already been taken, the one

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scott's tests

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
The header of my message to the list is showing X-Weight: -17 (FIVETENIGNORE, SPFPASS, CURRENT, HEUR3, SPAMCHK) X-Declude-Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [208.154.200.6] Scott, would you please comment on the last 4 : SPFPASS, CURRENT, HEUR3, SPAMCHK I suppose that i am now passing SPF? but why did

[Declude.JunkMail] More AOL problems

2004-04-21 Thread Serge
Hi all any help appreciated Is this specific for this sender ? or a problem with my server/DNS configs ? I do not see AOL acknowledging my IP adress anywhere . TIA Here is my log 20040414 082409 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0884048F) processing F:\Imail\spool\Qf19c0a01026e5656.SMD 20040414 082411

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Scott's tests

2004-04-21 Thread Serge
these would be scott's logs, since these test where done on his server - Original Message - From: Markus Gufler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2004 5:51 AM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Scott's tests Scott, would you please comment on the last

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] More AOL problems

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
any help appreciated Is this specific for this sender ? or a problem with my server/DNS configs ? I do not see AOL acknowledging my IP adress anywhere . This: 20040414 082414 127.0.0.1 SMTP (0884048F) 220-rly-xk06.mx.aol.com ESMTP mail_relay_in-xk6.10; Wed, 14 Apr 2004 04:24:14 -0500

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread System Administrator
on 4/20/04 3:16 PM, Matt wrote: NOTCONTAINS would be incredibly helpful for lots of filters, though of course all forms of NOT filters would be good addition, but NOTCONTAINS is the most flexible and therefore capable, especially to defeat a counterbalancing filter so that it doesn't credit

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] US Treasury cannot do it right?

2004-04-21 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Yeah, I got sick of modifying my setups for others mistakes.. I've just ended up forwarding them the message with the internet headers telling them what the problem is, how to fix it, and that messages from them will be blocked/reviewed until the problems are fixed.. Haven't gotten any

[Declude.JunkMail] This got through.. -Question-

2004-04-21 Thread Jeff Maze - Hostmaster
Just a question.. The message below (internet headers listed only) got through and only failed on the CMDSPACE test.. But one of the X-Notes states the there was a timeout looking up the IP address (it's 24-51-32-177.kntnny.adelphia.net).. Anyway, I was wondering if there was a test could be

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: ASCII code

2004-04-21 Thread DLAnalyzer Support
Correct... Darrell John Tolmachoff (Lists) writes: A space is %20, correct? John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list.

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS, HELOISIP and HELOISIPX questions

2004-04-21 Thread Bud Durland
Goran Jovanovic wrote: This is parts of a header I received and I just want to check a few things So the spammer thought that he would use my IP address in the HELO line 205.150.108.8 to identify his domain, even though his real IP address is 220.185.227.109? Obviously an IP address is not a

[Declude.JunkMail] Where did the RHSBL list go?

2004-04-21 Thread Dan Geiser
Hello, All, Could someone tell me where I might find the list of RHSBL tests which used to be listed at the bottom of this page the old List of all Known DNS-Based Spam Databsaes? The new document is here, http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97, but the RHSBL information seems to be have

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Where did the RHSBL list go?

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Could someone tell me where I might find the list of RHSBL tests which used to be listed at the bottom of this page the old List of all Known DNS-Based Spam Databsaes? The new document is here, http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97http://www.declude.com/Articles.asp?ID=97, but the RHSBL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] US Treasury cannot do it right?

2004-04-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Well, I well mention his first name, blast shields up first. (He has a way of irritating people.) Len Conrad, most often seen on the Imail list. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail- [EMAIL

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread Hirthe, Alexander
Hello Sysadmin, it would be nice, if you could use a real name. We're an ISP and we believe we can't whitelist our addresses and we definitely can't require authentication. Why not? We do the same job, and I thought the same. But if all would think so, we will never get of the spammers. So

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread Markus Gufler
We're an ISP and we believe we can't whitelist our addresses and we definitely can't require authentication. If you haven't your own network (ISP backbone) or users connecting from a defined range of IP's you SHOULD switch to SMTP-AUTH and you CAN prepare some usefull how-to pages, then

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread System Administrator
on 4/21/04 11:17 AM, John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: Why are you so much different than other ISPs that you can not force authentication? Try to imagine having to contact thousands of subscribers and walk them through changing their settings. Even if we only took a minute to help each

[Declude.JunkMail] Processing load on machine

2004-04-21 Thread Paul Fuhrmeister
If the following is in the Global.cfg file, is it true that dnsbl.sorbs.net will be queried once and the result will be evaluated 8 times? SORBS-HTTP ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.2 5 0 SORBS-SOCKS ip4rdnsbl.sorbs.net 127.0.0.3 5 0 SORBS-MISC ip4r

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
Why are you so much different than other ISPs that you can not force authentication? Try to imagine having to contact thousands of subscribers and walk them through changing their settings. Even if we only took a minute to help each subscriber (and I can guarantee you a minute isn't even

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread Matt
John, Dial-up ISP's, especially smaller ones, are very unlikely to be targeted by spammers due to the dynamic nature of the IP space. There one minute, gone the next...and the bandwidth sucks. Almost all viruses don't use mail servers to spread, so SMTP AUTH won't stop them either, but

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
That means that any one using one of those addresses can send out millions of spam e-mails through your server and there is nothing you can do about it. How is that statement correct? We scan all outgoing messages for spam and viruses and delete them if a message contains one or both. I

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] New test

2004-04-21 Thread ISPHuset Nordic
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of System Administrator Sent: 21. april 2004 20:20 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] New test on 4/21/04 1:40 PM, John Tolmachoff (Lists) wrote: I assume you are relaying

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering outgoing mail - silent failure

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Well I read the manual and searched the archives, but my efforts to filter outgoing mail are not working. We have the pro version of Declude. in the filter... BODY0 CONTAINS flibbertygibbet SUBJECT 0 CONTAINS flibbertygibbet in the Declude config file (last two entries) ... OUTGO

[Declude.JunkMail] Log analysis and test check scripts

2004-04-21 Thread Roger Eriksson
Hi, My log analysis and test check scripts are available for download at: http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/LOG_analysis.zip http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/TEST_check.zip The first script creates a list with the number of hits for each test, number of messages that

[Declude.JunkMail] Any recommendations for MS Exchange spam filter?

2004-04-21 Thread Larry Craddock
Anyone know if there's anything similar to declude for MS Exchange server? thanks, Larry Craddock --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL

[Declude.JunkMail] Obvious, but it was new for me

2004-04-21 Thread Colbeck, Andrew
Title: Message I just saved some processing power.. One of my most important text filters is the BODY search for URL stuff. But it's quite big. To keep my loglevels in check, I use LOGLEVEL MID, which doesn't log the individual lines triggered. But whether I use MID or HIGH, the line

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Log analysis and test check scripts

2004-04-21 Thread Nick Hayer
On 21 Apr 2004 at 21:24, Roger Eriksson wrote: *very* nice job Roger - Thanks! -Nick Hayer Hi, My log analysis and test check scripts are available for download at: http://www.botany.gu.se/download/decludescript/LOG_analysis.zip

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Obvious, but it was new for me

2004-04-21 Thread Scott Fisher
My Body URL observations: I've noticed that using SURBL filter has dramatically cut down on the hits of my 5 URL Body filters. My five filters are for .biz, .info, .com, .net and other, it's just easier for me to maintain them that way. So I've moved the SURBL filter higher in my list of test

[Declude.JunkMail] Failed Spamdomains Why

2004-04-21 Thread Kevin Bilbee
Scott I thought if there was a DNS failure that SPAMDOMAINS would not fail but pass the email??? This message failed Spam domains when there was a DNS failure on Microsofts end? Declude Version 1.78i18 *** Declude Log *** 04/21/2004 11:36:34 Qbf301a5d024003e8 Msg failed REVDNS (This

Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Failed Spamdomains Why

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
Scott I thought if there was a DNS failure that SPAMDOMAINS would not fail but pass the email??? This message failed Spam domains when there was a DNS failure on Microsofts end? It depends on the failure: An error occurred: Server dns1.sj.msft.net is reporting a server failure (it is probably

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Failed Spamdomains Why

2004-04-21 Thread Kevin Bilbee
OK I get that. I was under the assumption that if there was a DNS failure that DNS based tests would not fail. So I am assuming I am correct and Incorrect. If the DNS server that Imail is configureed to communicate with has failed it will pass the tests but if the remote server that is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] HELOBOGUS, HELOISIP and HELOISIPX questions

2004-04-21 Thread Goran Jovanovic
OK I think I was somehow reversed in my tinking Goran Jovanovic The LAN Shoppe Goran Jovanovic wrote: This is parts of a header I received and I just want to check a few things So the spammer thought that he would use my IP address in the HELO line 205.150.108.8 to

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Obvious, but it was new for me

2004-04-21 Thread Markus Gufler
If you run SPAMCHK, it logs out all of the URL's it finds. ...if the Log level is set high enough. Note that it logs any URL regardless if identified as spam or legit message. Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Filtering outgoing mail - silent failure

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
I sent an email from within our domain (containing that word in both the subject and body) to an external account. Then checked the Declude log. Nothing. That's what I suspected -- that means that there is a problem with the way that the test is set up. Are you sure that the filter file is

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Failed Spamdomains Why

2004-04-21 Thread R. Scott Perry
OK I get that. I was under the assumption that if there was a DNS failure that DNS based tests would not fail. If there is a timeout, Declude JunkMail will not fail the test. But if it gets a response back that doesn't include an answer, it will fail the test.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Failed Spamdomains Why

2004-04-21 Thread Chuck Schick
FYI - There is not a DNS failure on Microsoft's end. Microsoft for some reason has no reverse dns for a whole bunch of their mail servers causing mail from MSN and Hotmail to fail both spamdomains and revdns. I have contacted Microsoft and they said it would be fixed yesterday. What a mess.

RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Obvious, but it was new for me

2004-04-21 Thread John Tolmachoff \(Lists\)
If you are using Spamchk, you can use an external file there. That is what I do with my body URL filter. It is much quicker to parse from Spamchk than as a filter in Declude. John Tolmachoff Engineer/Consultant/Owner eServices For You -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]