[Declude.JunkMail] Stumped on why this is happening.
I have a client who is able to go to the online email system on our service and send an email to a specific user on RoadRunner in Houston, however if he tries to send it through our server he gets the following bounce. I have included the header Subject : Delivery Status Notification (Failure) Date : Tue, 11 May 2004 12:39:00 -0500 From : [EMAIL PROTECTED] To : [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME Version : 1.0 MIME Type : multipart/report; report-type=delivery-status; boundary=9B095B5ADSN=_01C427A5B470B48E0018GOLDMINE.CORPORA Message-id : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received : from GOLDMINE.CORPORATE [64.237.69.185] by mail.intent.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AFC61837009A; Tue, 11 May 2004 13:39:18 -0400 X-Declude-Sender : [64.237.69.185] X-Note : This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail for spam. X-Spam-Tests-Failed : IPNOTINMX, NOLEGITCONTENT [0] X-RCPT-TO : [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-UIDL : 345613366 This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. Delivery to the following recipients failed. __ As you can see he is using Goldmine and in the logs it shows him logging in but no further info. He can send to anywhere else without a problem, it is only to this particular person. Any clues as to what might be causing this? Rick Hogue www.intent.net Web Hosting 1-800-866-2983 www.prosperity.com Featured web site -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim The file date does display on the webpage. But I agree the version number displayed in some manner would be very useful. We can do that, but then it is back to just releases/betas. I think the final answer really should be If you don't like the way that interim releases work, pretend that there are only releases and betas. While we appreciate input, the procedure for interims *must* be as simple as possible. Add too much to the process, and it takes almost as much time as new betas, and there is no need for interims anymore. As for searching the archives, since they haven't been updated for over two weeks, won't this start being an incomplete information source? Unfortunately, mail-archive.com occasionally has hiccups like this. We'll have to wait to see if they get the newer E-mails or not. Perhaps having the release notes current to the latest interim and having interim version listed for each release line would be a good solution. This definitely will not happen -- that's one of the more time-consuming parts of the interims. Remember, if interims take as long to get out as betas, there is no need for interims. The interims often allow for new features/fixes to be accessed quickly (which is very nice with anti-spam/anti-virus software), but they can only work if there steps for the beta process that are skipped. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. That is great then I know the latest interim. But that won't help someone who is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the new feature was added before or after 1.79i3. Correct but they will know they do not have the latest interim and can then search teh archives for features they did not know about. I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. That I do do, most of the time. For example, That was just fixed in a new interim 1.79i7. Can you change most of the time to all of the time so even when looking at the archives we know what interim you are refering to. We also will know which features go with which interim. Kevin Bilbee --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question
I just had an email fail spamdomains for [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'swbell.net' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid mta7.pltn13.pbi.net. pbi.net is registered to SBC and is valid (pacific bell internet) In my spam domains file I have this: swbell.net .prodigy.net would I just add another line like this? swbell.net .pbi.net or can they be placed on the same line like this? swbell.net .prodigy.net .pbi.net Question 2: Is there a way to turn the headers off in the mail archive so everyones declude header messages arent the bulk of the search results? Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question
I just had an email fail spamdomains for [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'swbell.net' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid mta7.pltn13.pbi.net. pbi.net is registered to SBC and is valid (pacific bell internet) In my spam domains file I have this: swbell.net .prodigy.net would I just add another line like this? swbell.net .pbi.net No. With both those lines, E-mail from @swbell.net will fail the test unless the reverse DNS contains swbell.net in it. For example, an E-mail from @swbell.net with a reverse DNS entry of mail.prodigy.net would pass the first line, but fail the second line, causing the test to fail. or can they be placed on the same line like this? swbell.net .prodigy.net .pbi.net This is something that we hope to add later. Question 2: Is there a way to turn the headers off in the mail archive so everyones declude header messages arent the bulk of the search results? Unfortunately, I'm not aware of any way to do that. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Spamdomains question
I believe you are only allowed two columns in the spam domain line. Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/04 03:40PM I just had an email fail spamdomains for [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-RBL-Warning: SPAMDOMAINS: Spamdomain 'swbell.net' found: Address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent from invalid mta7.pltn13.pbi.net. pbi.net is registered to SBC and is valid (pacific bell internet) In my spam domains file I have this: swbell.net .prodigy.net would I just add another line like this? swbell.net .pbi.net or can they be placed on the same line like this? swbell.net .prodigy.net .pbi.net Question 2: Is there a way to turn the headers off in the mail archive so everyones declude header messages arent the bulk of the search results? Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SPF
No, it's not completely useless. Even if you can't query _your own_ SPF record unless it's set to accept wildcard sending IPs--and you can't use WHITELIST AUTH for those IPs--you can still publish an internal DNS zone for your domain that doesn't contain an SPF record, while publishing a more restrictive policy in your public DNS record. Ok. Interesting to know. Why I can't see anything about this on the SPF homepage or anywhere else? In my opinion this are very important informations for anyone who want's to set up SPF-Checks and SPF-Records. So: Use SPFFAIL only with Imail v8+ and enabled SMTP-AUTH whitelisting or with whitelisting of internal IP's from whitch your users/customers connect from. or set up private SPF-Records visible only for your own MTA. In additon: Don't use SPFPASS because - as usual - Spammers are much faster then most Mail-Admins. Correct? In order to deploy SPF, you definitely need to have a consistent idea of which sessions deserve elevated privileges in theory--and which of those sessions you can detect in practice. And so anyone should make his own understanding without a discussion on this list? Maybe great part of all who are running SPF tests doesn't know about this special issues. Keep in mind that the defensive effect of SPF-Records can only be as good as the reliability of SPFFAIL on remote MTA's side. Or in other words: My SPF-Records are pretty useless if other Admins score SPFFAIL very low because they can see too much wrong results for this test. Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam
Now Scott needs to notify us for future IP change of his mail server No, it is your responsibility to check to see if it changes. Declude JunkMail is designed to prevent legitimate E-mail from getting caught. If you are blocking the E-mail, there is probably a problem with your configuration. If you are blocking our mail, you are almost certainly blocking a fair amount of legitimate E-mail from other sources, too. For example, you may be using 2 or more spam databases that each list IPs that they think are dynamic. If that is the case, the total of all the weights for all those tests should not be enough to block the E-mail. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] messages from declude list marked as spam
No need for a response from NJABL -- they are refusing to accept our mail to their removal address (a temporary failure for 10 hours from their primary mailserver; their backup would have outright refused the E-mail if our mailserver hit it). So it is safe to say that NJABL is willing to accept false positives. ... and SORBS-DUHL responded, and refuses to remove our static IP. So in case there was any doubt, NJABL-DYNA and SORBS-DUHL both knowingly list static IPs. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?
Hello, I was wondering if there was a way to decode the Mime encoding of a message so that I could build filters to catch the Vi*agra portion of the subject line. I'm included both what the subject line looks like in an e-mail client and what the internet headers of the message looks like. Thanks.. Subject: Overnight Delivery of L\evitra, Vi*agra, Phentermine Subject: =?iso-8859-1?B?T3Zlcm5pZ2h0IERlbGl2ZXJ5IG9mIExcZXZpdHJhLCBWaSphZ3JhLCBQaGVud GVybWluZQ==?= --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SPF
Markus, I wouldn't say "only" in the case of SPFFAIL as there are other situations that might warrant different use. I believe that you are dead on as far as SPFPASS goes though. One thing of note is why I choose not to implement SPF at this time. Because I don't have control over how my customers use their E-mail, i.e. what server they send it through, and because many don't send it through mine, including everyone who's ISP has blocked port 25 outbound, the only type of record that I could use that would be of any value to others would be "?all", meaning that E-mail from my domains can come from anywhere (and it most certainly can of course). Some might say that knowing "+a and +mx" are useful, however if you don't apply negative weights for passing these, as you shouldn't, then there is hardly any value to adding those records if you are going to have a "?all". If I was however to restrict the record to "-all", figuring that 99% of my clients send from the optimal A or MX IP, I would then be opening up my other customers to the will of any administrator in choosing how they handle a SPFFAIL result. It has been suggested around here by at least two people that this should constitute a Hold. So for now, without SPF configured, I'm not subjecting my clients to the whim of other administrators, especially when many of them are blocked on port 25 and unknowingly use mail forms that use their own E-mail address as the sender. Matt Markus Gufler wrote: No, it's not completely useless. Even if you can't query _your own_ SPF record unless it's set to accept wildcard sending IPs--and you can't use WHITELIST AUTH for those IPs--you can still publish an internal DNS zone for your domain that doesn't contain an SPF record, while publishing a more restrictive policy in your public DNS record. Ok. Interesting to know. Why I can't see anything about this on the SPF homepage or anywhere else? In my opinion this are very important informations for anyone who want's to set up SPF-Checks and SPF-Records. So: Use SPFFAIL only with Imail v8+ and enabled SMTP-AUTH whitelisting or with whitelisting of internal IP's from whitch your users/customers connect from. or set up private SPF-Records visible only for your own MTA. In additon: Don't use SPFPASS because - as usual - Spammers are much faster then most Mail-Admins. Correct? In order to deploy SPF, you definitely need to have a consistent idea of which sessions deserve elevated privileges in theory--and which of those sessions you can detect in practice. And so anyone should make his own understanding without a discussion on this list? Maybe great part of all who are running SPF tests doesn't know about this special "issues". Keep in mind that the defensive effect of SPF-Records can only be as good as the reliability of SPFFAIL on remote MTA's side. Or in other words: My SPF-Records are pretty useless if other Admins score SPFFAIL very low because they can see too much wrong results for this test. Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. -- = MailPure custom filters for Declude JunkMail Pro. http://www.mailpure.com/software/ =
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Country Code for Palestine?
I was wondering if there was a way to decode the Mime encoding of a message so that I could build filters to catch the Vi*agra portion of the subject line. I'm included both what the subject line looks like in an e-mail client and what the internet headers of the message looks like. The latest beta will automatically decode HTML MIME segments, and the latest interim will decode encoded subjects. The filters will automatically be applied to both the encoded and unencoded versions. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
and the latest interim will decode encoded subjects Scott: It would be a great help if you can indicate what is the latest interim number- for one big reason... It will reduce the load on your server since we really have no way to know other than downloading it and seeing if a new version shows up. If we know the latest interim is the one we have then we won't download it again. I know you have to remember it but how else can we know the new interim number and if we have it or not.. Regards, Kami --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
It would be a great help if you can indicate what is the latest interim number- for one big reason... It will reduce the load on your server since we really have no way to know other than downloading it and seeing if a new version shows up. If we know the latest interim is the one we have then we won't download it again. I know you have to remember it but how else can we know the new interim number and if we have it or not.. For this, you can search the archives. The decoding of the subject was done quite some time ago, and was covered in the archives. If people would prefer not to do that, the other option would be for us to instead say will be available in the next release. :) -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SPF
Correct? Yes. And so anyone should make his own understanding without a discussion on this list? Maybe great part of all who are running SPF tests doesn't know about this special issues. No harm in discussing the issues. Keep in mind that the defensive effect of SPF-Records can only be as good as the reliability of SPFFAIL on remote MTA's side. Or in other words: My SPF-Records are pretty useless if other Admins score SPFFAIL very low because they can see too much wrong results for this test. Anybody who scores SPFFAIL very low doesn't understand SPF. You can't pussyfoot around those that don't know their own technology, or you get completely paralyzed. --Sandy Sanford Whiteman, Chief Technologist Broadleaf Systems, a division of Cypress Integrated Systems, Inc. e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SpamAssassin plugs into Declude! http://www.mailmage.com/download/software/freeutils/SPAMC32/Release/ --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
The file date does display on the webpage. But I agree the version number displayed in some manner would be very useful. As for searching the archives, since they haven't been updated for over two weeks, won't this start being an incomplete information source? Perhaps having the release notes current to the latest interim and having interim version listed for each release line would be a good solution. i.e. Something like this in the release notes. JM FIX 177i16 IPBYPASS limit increased from 20 to 100 entries. Sometimes it is easier to find information in the release notes, rather than hoping to catch the right word in a search of the mail-archive. Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/04 12:13PM It would be a great help if you can indicate what is the latest interim number- for one big reason... It will reduce the load on your server since we really have no way to know other than downloading it and seeing if a new version shows up. If we know the latest interim is the one we have then we won't download it again. I know you have to remember it but how else can we know the new interim number and if we have it or not.. For this, you can search the archives. The decoding of the subject was done quite some time ago, and was covered in the archives. If people would prefer not to do that, the other option would be for us to instead say will be available in the next release. :) -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
The file date does display on the webpage. But I agree the version number displayed in some manner would be very useful. We can do that, but then it is back to just releases/betas. I think the final answer really should be If you don't like the way that interim releases work, pretend that there are only releases and betas. While we appreciate input, the procedure for interims *must* be as simple as possible. Add too much to the process, and it takes almost as much time as new betas, and there is no need for interims anymore. As for searching the archives, since they haven't been updated for over two weeks, won't this start being an incomplete information source? Unfortunately, mail-archive.com occasionally has hiccups like this. We'll have to wait to see if they get the newer E-mails or not. Perhaps having the release notes current to the latest interim and having interim version listed for each release line would be a good solution. This definitely will not happen -- that's one of the more time-consuming parts of the interims. Remember, if interims take as long to get out as betas, there is no need for interims. The interims often allow for new features/fixes to be accessed quickly (which is very nice with anti-spam/anti-virus software), but they can only work if there steps for the beta process that are skipped. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SPF
One thing of note is why I choose not to implement SPF at this time. Because I don't have control over how my customers use their E-mail, i.e. what server they send it through, and because many don't send it through mine, including everyone who's ISP has blocked port 25 outbound, the only type of record that I could use that would be of any value to others would be ?all, meaning that E-mail from my domains can come from anywhere (and it most certainly can of course). Same problem here. For statistical research we keep record of incoming/outgoing # of messages and bytes for every separate domain. So I intended to create a daily script that add or removes SPF TXT records for every local domain that has send at least one message in the last 7 days trough our server. But: Private DNS zones or upgrade to Imail v8 Script to add/remove SPF records And this all for actualy less then 3% of all incoming messages... Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
:) This definitely will not happen -- that's one of the more time-consuming parts of the interims. Scott... All I asked for was the inclusion of this in your emails.. ... This is added in our latest interim (1.76i6) Blah blah blah That is it.. :) I know we have 1.79i6- so I won't be downloading it- right now when I see your emails I say Oh.. May be I should download it- so I go to the site and put a load on your server and download it- then I see that it is the same version that I had. I am sure others do the same... This requires no change in what you do and how you do it.. But every so often let us know what is the latest interim number.. Thanks Kami --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
Kami: The management of interim releases comes up in regular intervals. I agree, it is a waste of resources of time that email messages refer to a mysterious latest interim - instead of simply qualifying, interim 1.76i6. I just can't see how that can possible take more time to the author - but it will help every customer who is running interim releases. Like you and myself, I'm sure that many people end up downloading an interim release to find out WHICH version the latest is - just to discover that they are running THAT number already. Best Regards Andy Schmidt HM Systems Software, Inc. 600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203 Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846 Phone: +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business) Fax:+1 201 934-9206 http://www.HM-Software.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kami Razvan Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 02:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim :) This definitely will not happen -- that's one of the more time-consuming parts of the interims. Scott... All I asked for was the inclusion of this in your emails.. ... This is added in our latest interim (1.76i6) Blah blah blah That is it.. :) I know we have 1.79i6- so I won't be downloading it- right now when I see your emails I say Oh.. May be I should download it- so I go to the site and put a load on your server and download it- then I see that it is the same version that I had. I am sure others do the same... This requires no change in what you do and how you do it.. But every so often let us know what is the latest interim number.. Thanks Kami --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
The management of interim releases comes up in regular intervals. I agree, it is a waste of resources of time that email messages refer to a mysterious latest interim - instead of simply qualifying, interim 1.76i6. I just can't see how that can possible take more time to the author - but it will This is just one of those cases where you can't have it both ways -- you can either choose fast fixes with minimal documentation and related services, or standard betas. The thing that is especially good here, though, is that you *do* have a choice. If you don't like the way that interims work, just stick with the betas. Yes, this does keep coming up. And yes, it would be nice if we could enhance the documentation/services regarding interims. But I just don't see that happening. That's just part of the nature of interims, and why they were introduced. If the drawbacks outweigh the benefits, feel free to stick to betas. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
[Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Anybody else with this trouble? I've got 300+ messages queued to hotmail.com addresses. Both my cached and a fresh DNS query look fine. I have a ton of: MX connect fail 65.54.190.50 messages in my Imail log (lots of different IP addresses whose reverse DNS ends with hotmail.com) Andrew. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude and SPF
Anybody who scores SPFFAIL very low doesn't understand SPF. You can't pussyfoot around those that don't know their own technology, or you get completely paralyzed. The goal is to understand enough about SPF to allow a high weight for SPFFAIL :-) Markus --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
On 11 May 2004 at 14:38, Darin Cox wrote: Boys, Scott is very knowledgeable, helpful, and quick to assist. He is also as stuborn as an old dog. He is not going to change the way he tags his releases, or writes his manual. No biggie. I suggest the good outweighs the bad... -Nick Hayer I agree...this would be an immense help. Darin. - Original Message - From: Kami Razvan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim :) This definitely will not happen -- that's one of the more time-consuming parts of the interims. Scott... All I asked for was the inclusion of this in your emails.. ... This is added in our latest interim (1.76i6) Blah blah blah That is it.. :) I know we have 1.79i6- so I won't be downloading it- right now when I see your emails I say Oh.. May be I should download it- so I go to the site and put a load on your server and download it- then I see that it is the same version that I had. I am sure others do the same... This requires no change in what you do and how you do it.. But every so often let us know what is the latest interim number.. Thanks Kami --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..grin Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the list that something is added or fixed in the latest interim? I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. This is not asking for additional documentation, just tell everyone what the latest is when you post these statements. That way those that use the interims know whether or not they're on the latest without having to download and run it to find out. This would go a long way to quelling these discussions, simply by adding the last interim number to the email...doesn't have to be the interim that actually fixed it, just the last one. Either that or just name the files according to the interim rather than just declude.exe. I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort and quick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mild frustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slight adaptation... Darin. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:46 PM Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim All I asked for was the inclusion of this in your emails.. ... This is added in our latest interim (1.76i6) Blah blah blah That is it.. :) True. But that means that we need to add extra record keeping as to what was added to each specific interim. And it means that when people ask about features that are available in the latest interim, we have to go back to our records to see which interim it was added to, which also take up some extra time. For the interims, I think that the burden needs to be on the customers to search the archives to find out which specific interim a feature was added to. This requires no change in what you do and how you do it.. Ah, but it does. :) -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..grin Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the list that something is added or fixed in the latest interim? I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. But that won't help someone who is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the new feature was added before or after 1.79i3. I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. That I do do, most of the time. For example, That was just fixed in a new interim 1.79i7. However, when referring to *old* features -- ones that were not just added to the latest interim -- I do not mention which it was, as it could take a lot of time to find it. This would go a long way to quelling these discussions... I doubt these discussions will ever be quelled. :) I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort and quick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mild frustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slight adaptation... If there was a way that worked for everyone, we would. But I don't think there is such a way. Different people are asking for different things (labelling the current interim version on the website, including the version number in posts for new features (which is normally already done), including the version in posts where the archives already contain the version needed for the feature, adding the information to the release notes, etc.). And that's just from *this* go-around. Previous times, other issues have come up, too. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail?
Yep hotmail is not accepting from us either, I am seeing connection resets from them Rick Davidson National Systems Manager North American Title Group - - Original Message - From: Colbeck, Andrew [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:44 PM Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Hotmail not accept inbound mail? Anybody else with this trouble? I've got 300+ messages queued to hotmail.com addresses. Both my cached and a fresh DNS query look fine. I have a ton of: MX connect fail 65.54.190.50 messages in my Imail log (lots of different IP addresses whose reverse DNS ends with hotmail.com) Andrew. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
I just wish a little more info was available on what the interim release added/fixed/removed. Frankly, I'm sometimes amazed you get any work done, considering the number of posts you have on the Declude and Imail forums. Add to that the number of e-mails that arrive at the support and virus trap addresses I guess in my dreamland, I am hoping that Computerized Horizons being acquired will bring more resources for you, so you would be freed of the documentation and light support (busy?)work to concentrate on improving Declude. Scott Fisher Director of IT Farm Progress Companies [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/11/04 01:07PM The file date does display on the webpage. But I agree the version number displayed in some manner would be very useful. We can do that, but then it is back to just releases/betas. I think the final answer really should be If you don't like the way that interim releases work, pretend that there are only releases and betas. While we appreciate input, the procedure for interims *must* be as simple as possible. Add too much to the process, and it takes almost as much time as new betas, and there is no need for interims anymore. As for searching the archives, since they haven't been updated for over two weeks, won't this start being an incomplete information source? Unfortunately, mail-archive.com occasionally has hiccups like this. We'll have to wait to see if they get the newer E-mails or not. Perhaps having the release notes current to the latest interim and having interim version listed for each release line would be a good solution. This definitely will not happen -- that's one of the more time-consuming parts of the interims. Remember, if interims take as long to get out as betas, there is no need for interims. The interims often allow for new features/fixes to be accessed quickly (which is very nice with anti-spam/anti-virus software), but they can only work if there steps for the beta process that are skipped. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
hehe...he said do do. Understood on old features...just saying that was fixed previously (thus contained in the newest interim) *and* including the number of the latest interim will go a long ways. Darin. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..grin Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the list that something is added or fixed in the latest interim? I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. But that won't help someone who is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the new feature was added before or after 1.79i3. I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. That I do do, most of the time. For example, That was just fixed in a new interim 1.79i7. However, when referring to *old* features -- ones that were not just added to the latest interim -- I do not mention which it was, as it could take a lot of time to find it. This would go a long way to quelling these discussions... I doubt these discussions will ever be quelled. :) I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort and quick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mild frustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slight adaptation... If there was a way that worked for everyone, we would. But I don't think there is such a way. Different people are asking for different things (labelling the current interim version on the website, including the version number in posts for new features (which is normally already done), including the version in posts where the archives already contain the version needed for the feature, adding the information to the release notes, etc.). And that's just from *this* go-around. Previous times, other issues have come up, too. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
OK, I give up. Where can I download the interim release? I haven't been able to find it since the website was updated. It used to be at http://www.declude.com/interim but not any more. I have searched the archives and even tried using the search tool on the site. Nothing. Dermot -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..grin Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the list that something is added or fixed in the latest interim? I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. But that won't help someone who is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the new feature was added before or after 1.79i3. I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. That I do do, most of the time. For example, That was just fixed in a new interim 1.79i7. However, when referring to *old* features -- ones that were not just added to the latest interim -- I do not mention which it was, as it could take a lot of time to find it. This would go a long way to quelling these discussions... I doubt these discussions will ever be quelled. :) I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort and quick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mild frustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slight adaptation... If there was a way that worked for everyone, we would. But I don't think there is such a way. Different people are asking for different things (labelling the current interim version on the website, including the version number in posts for new features (which is normally already done), including the version in posts where the archives already contain the version needed for the feature, adding the information to the release notes, etc.). And that's just from *this* go-around. Previous times, other issues have come up, too. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: disabling NDR's/badmail dir with Microsoft SMTP
Just write a bat file to rotate and delete the files, then schedule it. ren Badmail_07 Badmail_08 ren Badmail_06 Badmail_07 ren Badmail_05 Badmail_06 ren Badmail_04 Badmail_05 ren Badmail_03 Badmail_04 ren Badmail_02 Badmail_03 ren Badmail_01 Badmail_02 ren BadmailBadmail_01 md Badmail del /q Badmail_08 rd Badmail_08 Paul Fuhrmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of decjunkmail Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] OT: disabling NDR's/badmail dir with Microsoft SMTP Hi, I'm setting up Microsoft SMTP mail server as an outbound gateway/offload and I've noticed that failed NDR's ultimately pile up in a badmail directory. Is there a regkey setting to configure MS SMTP to simply bit-bucket those instead of creating a growing folder that must be cleaned out periodically? --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
BTW, what is the new link for interims ? - Original Message - From: Darin Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 7:33 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim hehe...he said do do. Understood on old features...just saying that was fixed previously (thus contained in the newest interim) *and* including the number of the latest interim will go a long ways. Darin. - Original Message - From: R. Scott Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..grin Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the list that something is added or fixed in the latest interim? I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. But that won't help someone who is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the new feature was added before or after 1.79i3. I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. That I do do, most of the time. For example, That was just fixed in a new interim 1.79i7. However, when referring to *old* features -- ones that were not just added to the latest interim -- I do not mention which it was, as it could take a lot of time to find it. This would go a long way to quelling these discussions... I doubt these discussions will ever be quelled. :) I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort and quick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mild frustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slight adaptation... If there was a way that worked for everyone, we would. But I don't think there is such a way. Different people are asking for different things (labelling the current interim version on the website, including the version number in posts for new features (which is normally already done), including the version in posts where the archives already contain the version needed for the feature, adding the information to the release notes, etc.). And that's just from *this* go-around. Previous times, other issues have come up, too. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
http://www.declude.com/version/interim/Neal M.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]From: "Dermot Keenan" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 05/11/2004 03:48PMSubject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interimOK, I give up. Where can I download the interim release? I haven't beenable to find it since the website was updated. It used to be athttp://www.declude.com/interimbut not any more. I have searched thearchives and even tried using the search tool on the site. Nothing.Dermot-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of R. Scott PerrySent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:18 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim"Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..."...Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the listthat something is added or fixed in the latest interim?I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. But that won't help someonewho is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the newfeature was added before or after 1.79i3.I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post thatsomethingis fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicateswhat the latest interim is.That I do do, most of the time. For example, "That was just fixed in a newinterim 1.79i7".However, when referring to *old* features -- ones that were not just addedto the latest interim -- I do not mention which it was, as it could take alot of time to find it.This would go a long way to quelling these discussions...I doubt these discussions will ever be quelled. :)I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort andquick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mildfrustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slightadaptation...If there was a way that worked for everyone, we would. But I don't thinkthere is such a way. Different people are asking for different things(labelling the current interim version on the website, including theversion number in posts for new features (which is normally already done),including the version in posts where the archives already contain theversion needed for the feature, adding the information to the releasenotes, etc.). And that's just from *this* go-around. Previous times,other issues have come up, too. -Scott---Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailserverssince 2000.Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailservervulnerability detection.Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation.---[This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)]---This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. Tounsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], andtype "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be foundat http://www.mail-archive.com.--- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type "unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail". The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
BTW, what is the new link for interims ? The URL for interim releases is http://www.declude.com/version/interim . -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
http://www.declude.com/version/interim/ Sincerely, Randy Armbrecht Global Web SolutionsR, Inc. 804-346-5300 ext. 1 877-800-GLOBAL (4562) ext. 1 http://globalweb.net Richmond's Internet Source since 1996! WEB HOSTING including EMAIL beginning at $29/month! Non-Profits - receive a 25% discount! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dermot Keenan Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim OK, I give up. Where can I download the interim release? I haven't been able to find it since the website was updated. It used to be at http://www.declude.com/interim but not any more. I have searched the archives and even tried using the search tool on the site. Nothing. Dermot -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of R. Scott Perry Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim Please understand that I hold you in the highest regard..grin Surely you know which interim you have available when you post to the list that something is added or fixed in the latest interim? I can say that the latest interim is 1.79i7. But that won't help someone who is running 1.79i3 in this case, because they don't know if the new feature was added before or after 1.79i3. I think what Markus is asking here is just that when you post that something is fixed in the latest interim to also include the number that indicates what the latest interim is. That I do do, most of the time. For example, That was just fixed in a new interim 1.79i7. However, when referring to *old* features -- ones that were not just added to the latest interim -- I do not mention which it was, as it could take a lot of time to find it. This would go a long way to quelling these discussions... I doubt these discussions will ever be quelled. :) I think everyone here understands and sincerely appreciates the effort and quick response put into the interims, but obviously this confusion and mild frustration keeps coming up, so maybe it's time to make a slight adaptation... If there was a way that worked for everyone, we would. But I don't think there is such a way. Different people are asking for different things (labelling the current interim version on the website, including the version number in posts for new features (which is normally already done), including the version in posts where the archives already contain the version needed for the feature, adding the information to the release notes, etc.). And that's just from *this* go-around. Previous times, other issues have come up, too. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Latest interim
That one is 1.79i6. Scott just said that the latest interim was v1.79i7? The latest interim available at the web site is 1.79i6. Just out of curiosity, how did you come by this valuable piece of information. As I said, I found no mention of it in the archives. http://www.mail-archive.com is having problems; they apparently haven't been adding new E-mails to their database for several weeks. -Scott --- Declude JunkMail: The advanced anti-spam solution for IMail mailservers since 2000. Declude Virus: Ultra reliable virus detection and the leader in mailserver vulnerability detection. Find out what you've been missing: Ask for a free 30-day evaluation. --- [This E-mail was scanned for viruses by Declude Virus (http://www.declude.com)] --- This E-mail came from the Declude.JunkMail mailing list. To unsubscribe, just send an E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and type unsubscribe Declude.JunkMail. The archives can be found at http://www.mail-archive.com.
