Re: [VOTE] Andreas Kornelliusen as committer for Derby

2006-05-24 Thread Rick Hillegas
+1 David Van Couvering wrote: This vote is for adding Andreas Kornelliusen as a committer to Derby. Andreas started working on Derby in November of last year, and since then he has provided significant high-quality contributions to the project, including a vast suite of tests for the new

Re: Compiling with JDK 1.6 and deprecations

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, I don't see deprecation warnings. I'm not throwing any special switches in my ant.properties or my build-wrapping scripts. -Rick David Van Couvering wrote: I switched to compiling with JDK 1.6 recently, and I get a ton of deprecation warnings. For those of you who are already

Derby and the DRDA Standard

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Hillegas
I would like advice from the community on how Derby can influence the DRDA Standard, which defines our network protocol. Last year, I knocked on the door of the Open Group, asking how we could get a BOOLEAN datatype into the DRDA standard. This set in motion a process to revive the DBIOP

10.2 snapshot description available

2006-05-25 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have added a new wiki page which describes the contents of the upcoming 10.2 snapshot. This page (http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/TenTwoSnapshot) hangs off Derby's top-level wiki page. I have tried to describe the JDBC4 features which we hope the community can help test. It would be great if

Re: upcoming 10.2 snapshot

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Army, This is great news. If you want to draw the community's attention to the testing you need, feel free to update the snapshot description: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/TenTwoSnapshot. Thanks! -Rick Army wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: 2) I think that 10.2 will contain the following

Re: Release testing: i18n validation

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi David, How volatile is this test and how hard to fix it when it breaks? Can mere mortals help out here? Do you think that, with a little more work, it's feasible to drop this into the nightly test run some day? I'm not speculating about who might want to scratch that itch, just wondering

Forrest and the Snapshot

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have generated the 10.2 snapshot and wired it into a Derby website on my machine. Now I need to check this in. However, I don't know what to make of the following advice from the snapshot cookbook (http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbySnapshotOrRelease): NOTE: you should revert any changed

10.2.0.1 snapshot posted

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hello users and developers, We have posted a new snapshot of the mainline, which we expect will evolve into the 10.2 release this fall. You may find the snapshot at http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Snapshot+Jars. We would be grateful if you would test-drive this snapshot and

Re: 10.2.0.1 snapshot posted

2006-05-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
, 2005 / SVN 330608) but later on in the same page it appears that 10.1.2.2 and 10.1.2.3 were released already. Thanks, Craig On May 26, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Rick Hillegas wrote: Hello users and developers, We have posted a new snapshot of the mainline, which we expect will evolve

Engine booting, was: Autoloading of JDBC drivers considered harmful?

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Olav and Knut Anders, Thanks for running these experiments and uncovering this behavior. Driver-autoloading, of course, is a required JDBC4 feature. If Derby doesn't play well with driver-autoloading, then we have a Derby bug we have to fix. Perhaps, if we squint at it, we just have odd

Re: Engine booting, was: Autoloading of JDBC drivers considered harmful?

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
Kathey Marsden wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Let me summarize the odd behavior: o Under JDBC4, if you explicitly shut down the Derby engine, then subsequent calls to DriverManager.getConnection() will fail. o There is a workaround: Explictly reboot the Derby engine by issuing Class.forName

snapshots vs releases

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
Now that I have had my face very close to the snapshot machinery, I have noticed an asymmetry between snapshots and releases: Releases contain the user guides, but snapshots don't. What are the reasons for this asymmetry? Thanks, -Rick

Re: 10.2.0.1 snapshot posted

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
. With the Derby jar files posted in this way, we could contribute more easily to the testing effort. Thanks, Craig On May 26, 2006, at 2:50 PM, Rick Hillegas wrote: Hello users and developers, We have posted a new snapshot of the mainline, which we expect will evolve into the 10.2 release

Re: 10.2.0.1 snapshot posted

2006-05-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have replaced this snapshot with a new cut: 10.2.0.2. The test machinery in the previous snapshot was broken. That machinery is fixed now and the new snapshot passes the Derby regression tests. Regards, -Rick Rick Hillegas wrote: Hello users and developers, We have posted a new snapshot

materialized views

2006-05-31 Thread Rick Hillegas
As far as I know, Derby does not support materialized views (syntax for creating and refreshing snapshots of query results). The Derby Reference Guide doesn't show any CREATE VIEW syntax which would indicate support for materialized views. Does this sound correct? Thanks, -Rick

Re: Code formatting debate, confusion and wasted time , Has it gone on long enough?

2006-05-31 Thread Rick Hillegas
Before injecting a massive singularity into our code archaeology, I would like to better understand the passionate objection to tabs. Let me explain my perspective: I use a crude, old-fashioned editor called emacs. My tabs are configured at 4 space intervals. With this setting, I almost never

Re: Code formatting debate, confusion and wasted time , Has it gone on long enough?

2006-05-31 Thread Rick Hillegas
of a file, you will have to cross-reference two subversion clients, one rolled back Before Homogenization and one set at the current level After Homogenization. Can this be simplified? Are there tools that zipper the two views together? -Rick Bernt M. Johnsen wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote (2006-05-31

Re: Testing Classpath concern

2006-06-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
If we declared the controlled environment at the suite level rather than for each test, then we would not have to bounce the environment (and vm) with every test. -Rick Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Bernt M. Johnsen wrote: I think this is definitely a path we should follow. (... the pun

Re: 10.2 Snap shot problem

2006-06-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Manjula, I can fix this problem. Let me know if you encounter other problems. Regards, -Rick Manjula G Kutty wrote: I trird to download the 10.2 snap shot from http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Snapshot+Jars. I tried downloading the tar.gz file and it is downloading

Re: 10.2 Snap shot problem

2006-06-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Manjula, I'm afraid I cannot reproduce the problem you're seeing. On my XP box I have successfully downloaded all of the 10.2.0.2 distributions from the Derby download page. The files called zip come down with the extension zip and the files called tar.gz come down with the extension

new rev of jdk1.6 needed

2006-06-06 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have committed Dyre's patch for DERBY-1380. This makes it possible to connect to Derby databases again under jdk1.6--this capability was broken by the latest jdk1.6 version (build 86). If you build and run Derby with JDBC4 support, you will need to download build 86 of jdk1.6 from

docs don't appear in snapshots

2006-06-08 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hey Andrew, I may have posed this question while you were on vacation: Snapshots don't contain the user docs although releases do. What's the reason for not bundling user guides in snapshots? Thanks, -Rick

Re: docs don't appear in snapshots

2006-06-08 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Andrew. I don't have strong feelings about this issue yet. My internal customers wanted the user guides which went with the executable bits and I found I couldn't just point them at the download page for one-stop-shopping. Regards, -Rick Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 6/8/06, Rick

10.2.0.3 snapshot published

2006-06-09 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have updated the 10.2 snapshot with a new version, 10.2.0.3, available at http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html#Snapshot+Jars. This version fixes a couple issues: 1) Messages should print out in the correct language now because localized message files are wired into the classpath

optimizer documentation

2006-06-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'm puzzled by the following paragraph in Tuning Guide-DML statements and performance-Performance and optimization-Joins and performance-Join strategies: If memory use is not a problem for your environment, set this property to a high number; allowing the optimizer the maximum flexibility in

another question about optimizer documentation

2006-06-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'm also puzzled by the following explanation from the Tuning Guide: Selectivity and cardinality statistics Working with cardinality statistics When cardinality statistics are automatically updated For other operations, Derby automatically updates statistics for the table and

Re: Derby handling of Jira's Fix Version/s- WAS Re: 10.3 wiki page question

2007-01-25 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Mike, I agree that the Bug Fix Candidates heading is misleading because the query sweeps up all open 10.3 issues, including bugs, features, and documentation. I agree that Bug Fix Candidates should have a more focussed query associated

Re: Derby presentations @ ApacheCon 2006

2007-01-29 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks for volunteering to do this Jean! I just created DERBY-2276 as a place to hang our ApacheCon2006 presentations. I attached my presentation to that JIRA. Regards, -Rick Jean T. Anderson wrote: The Derby ApacheCon page only goes through 2005:

Re: derby-dev lunch in February

2007-02-07 Thread Rick Hillegas
the discussion about time and place. Thanks, -Rick Rick Hillegas wrote: Geir Høydalsvik, a member of the Norwegian Derby team, will be visiting SF on February 14. I was hoping to use this as an excuse for a Bay Area Derby lunch. Please let me know if you can attend. Once we know who's coming, we can vote

Re: Discuss early code in Jira or on derby-dev?

2007-02-07 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Jean, I'm getting to be a very big fan of conducting discussions in JIRA, for the following reasons: 1) It's a great place to hang code samples and specs, which you might not want to broadcast as hundreds of copies. 2) It's a great place to consolidate all of the conversations about a

running junit tests with and without a security manager

2007-02-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
I would like to test out some combinations of running the network server with and without a security manager and with and without certain system properties set. Ideally, it would be nice to run all of these combinations in a single master run of all of our JUnit tests. Unfortunately, this

Bay Area Derby lunch tomorrow

2007-02-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
Just a reminder that a number of us are lunching together in the Bay Area tomorrow, Wednesday, February 14. We're going to do what we did the last time, i.e., meet at 11:45 in the atrium of 595 Mission Street in San Francisco (Mission at 2nd Street, right next to Peet's Coffee). Same format as

Re: [VOTE] Accept NetworkServer system tests contributed by IBM

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
+1 Jean T. Anderson wrote: As required by the ASF ip-clearance process in the Incubator [1], please vote to accept the NetworkServer system tests contributed by IBM that are attached to the following Jira issue: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2248 I'll close this vote on

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks for raising this issue, Bernt. Here's my $.02: Making Derby secure-by-default is a high priority for many people on this list. Since we're moving from wide-open, unsecure default behavior, we have a lot of work to do. I expect we'll be making significant security improvements for at

derby statistics

2007-02-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Can someone teach me how to get the following information: 1) The number of people subscribed to derby-dev and to derby-user. 2) The number of times derby distributions are downloaded. 3) How these statistics are trending over time. Thanks, -Rick

Re: derby statistics

2007-02-21 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks for the quick responses, Andrew and Jean! Jean T. Anderson wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 2/20/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone teach me how to get the following information: 1) The number of people subscribed to derby-dev and to derby-user

whither 10.0.2.1?

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
When I try to run the compatibility tests, they fail fast, complaining that they can't find the jars for the 10.0.2.1 release. I seem to recall that I once got those jars from the Derby download page. But 10.0.2.1 doesn't live there anymore: http://db.apache.org/derby/derby_downloads.html

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... A wiki page with the proposed backwards compatibility issues listed together and with definition(s) of secure-by-default would be good. Since Rick seems to be proposing most of the backwards compatibility issues he seems like a good candidate to write the

Re: whither 10.0.2.1?

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Jean! Jean T. Anderson wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: When I try to run the compatibility tests, they fail fast, complaining that they can't find the jars for the 10.0.2.1 release. I seem to recall that I once got those jars from the Derby download page. But 10.0.2.1 doesn't live

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... A wiki page with the proposed backwards compatibility issues listed together and with definition(s) of secure-by-default would be good. Since Rick seems to be proposing most of the backwards compatibility

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... A wiki page with the proposed backwards compatibility issues listed together and with definition(s) of secure-by-default would be good. Since Rick seems

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Thanks, Dan. I have updated the wiki page to clarify that the restrictions depend on authentication. Thanks, two more questions: In the first table there is the phrase Among other side-effects What are these side effects, as it is it doesn't

lessons from releasing 10.2

2007-02-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have documented some of the lessons which I learned from being release manager for 10.2: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyTenTwoPostMortem I'm hoping that these notes can help us make the release process smoother the next time around. Regards, -Rick

Re: Multiple simultaneous test runs on the same machine

2007-02-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Bernt, I have not tried this out but it looks like the port number is configurable by setting a system property. I think that the tricky bits are in org.apache.derbyTesting.junit.TestConfiguration. Hope this helps, -Rick Bernt M. Johnsen wrote: In the old test harness with the old tests

derby faces

2007-02-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks again to Rick Cattell for snapping photos at the Bay Area Derby lunch earlier this month. I have put some of those photos on a wiki page: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyFaces Regards, -Rick

broken network startup scripts

2007-02-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
The network startup scripts are broken now, as a result of the work I am doing on DERBY-2196. We decided that, to avoid giving customers a false sense of security, the secure-by-default server should fail to come up if the customer does not specify how they want to authenticate users. Now when

Re: no protection of db boot - intended?

2007-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Dag H. Wanvik wrote: Working on DERBY-2264, I notice (again) that booting a database is not protected in any way. Currently, even when authentication (derby.connection.requireAuthentication) is turned on, any user can leave the database in a booted state: If not already booted, the database

Re: broken network startup scripts

2007-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 2/26/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The network startup scripts are broken now, as a result of the work I am doing on DERBY-2196. We decided that, to avoid giving customers a false sense of security, the secure-by-default server should fail to come up

Re: broken network startup scripts

2007-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 2/27/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for the quick response, Andrew. If we go with (4), then we have to change our attitude about the startup scripts. Right now they work out-of-the-box. With approach (4), they no longer

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-27 Thread Rick Hillegas
Laura Stewart wrote: On 2/20/07, Bernt M. Johnsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I raise this question because it has now been introduced functionality that will make Derby 10.3 not entirely compatible with 10.2. (snip) So, the question is then: Is this a Derby 10 release, or should it

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Myrna van Lunteren wrote: On 2/28/07, Lars Heill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Everyone else seemed non-committal. Unless the community continues the discussion and reaches consensus, the decision may be up to the next release manager. Nice one :) Cheers, Lars I thought

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-02-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
improving authentication between the network client and the server, with this security enabled by default. David Rick Hillegas wrote: Myrna van Lunteren wrote: On 2/28/07, Lars Heill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Everyone else seemed non-committal. Unless the community

Re: broken network startup scripts

2007-03-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
-of-the-box. o The Release Notes will have to state this plainly and forcefully. o The user guides will have to explain how to customize these templates. Thanks to everyone who has participated in this discussion. Your feedback has helped me sort out my thoughts. Regards, -Rick Rick Hillegas

Re: broken network startup scripts

2007-03-01 Thread Rick Hillegas
Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 3/1/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has generated a lot of thought-provoking discussion. However, it has not discovered a solution that works for everyone. My instincts then are to leave the code alone: o The user guides will have to explain how

VTIEnvironment

2007-03-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
Does anyone know the purpose of the following class: org.apache.derby.vti.VTIEnvironment? This is the type of the argument to the VTICosting methods. However, these objects are never inspected by any of the classes which implement VTICosting. The Cloudscape 3.5 documentation says, The methods

Re: VTIEnvironment

2007-03-06 Thread Rick Hillegas
VTICosting using the VTIEnvironment argument at all. So, I am not sure of the purpose of VTIEnvironment but it is being implemented by VTIResultSet class. Mamta On 3/5/07, *Rick Hillegas* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know the purpose of the following class

Re: Q: Should Derby 10.3 be Derby 11?

2007-03-07 Thread Rick Hillegas
adopting it. Regards, -Rick Myrna van Lunteren wrote: On 2/28/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Myrna van Lunteren wrote: On 2/28/07, Lars Heill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Everyone else seemed non-committal. Unless the community continues the discussion

[VOTE] Dag Wanvik as a committer

2007-03-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
Please vote on whether we should make Dag Wanvik a Derby committer. The vote will close at 5:00 pm San Francisco time on Monday March 19. Last year, Dag lead a team of developers in implementing Scrollable Updatable ResultSets. Recently he investigated how to implement one-node replication

Re: [VOTE] Dag Wanvik as a committer

2007-03-12 Thread Rick Hillegas
+1 Rick Hillegas wrote: Please vote on whether we should make Dag Wanvik a Derby committer. The vote will close at 5:00 pm San Francisco time on Monday March 19. Last year, Dag lead a team of developers in implementing Scrollable Updatable ResultSets. Recently he investigated how

Re: junit targets and setting classpath from ant

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: I'm trying to setup one ant file that will call the derby top-level file to set a classpath and then execute the junit tests. E.g. logically CLASSPATH=/work/dan/derby/trunk/classes ant junit-autoloadtest So I have in a separate build file: target name=test

Re: Collation implementation WAS Re: Should COLLATION attribute related code go in BasicDatabase?

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... - The collation type (the integer) is written into the meta-data for an index just as ascending/descending is today (including the btree control row, thus making the information available for recovery). Collation type applies to all character columns in the

Re: Collation implementation WAS Re: Should COLLATION attribute related code go in BasicDatabase?

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... - The collation type (the integer) is written into the meta-data for an index just as ascending/descending is today (including the btree control row, thus making the information available for recovery

Re: Collation implementation WAS Re: Should COLLATION attribute related code go in BasicDatabase?

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... - The collation type (the integer) is written into the meta-data for an index just as ascending/descending is today (including the btree control row, thus

Re: Collation implementation WAS Re: Should COLLATION attribute related code go in BasicDatabase?

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Mike Matrigali wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Daniel John Debrunner wrote: ... - The collation type (the integer) is written into the meta-data for an index just as ascending/descending is today (including

QL

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Mike Matrigali wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: This is where I get confused. Are multiple collations required in a single database? With plans for DERBY-1478 it isn't. With new collations it isn't. With collation per-schema it is, but should we pay overhead now for a possible future

Re: Collation implementation WAS Re: Should COLLATION attribute related code go in BasicDatabase?

2007-03-15 Thread Rick Hillegas
Somehow this ended up with the odd subject QL. Here it is with the right subject. Regards, -Rick Rick Hillegas wrote: Mike Matrigali wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: This is where I get confused. Are multiple collations required in a single database? With plans for DERBY-1478 it isn't

Re: secure-by-default definition attempt - WAS Re: broken network startup scripts

2007-03-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
This pushes the discussion forward. It occurs to me that we need both a positive statement of what we think we're protecting and a negative statement of known security holes: 1) Limiting exposure: We intend to limit the kinds of security breaches introduced by running Derby on a server machine.

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
Mamta Satoor wrote: Dan, I looked at the SQL 2002 foundation specification. TRIM, UPPER, LOWER, SUBSTRING functions are covered in Section 6.29 string value function and it says that these functions will get the collation of their operand. For instance, Syntax Rule (4b) says this for

Re: OOM errors with suites.All

2007-03-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Myrna, I've been running the junit tests with extra memory for a while now. This is the command line I use: java -Xmx512m junit.textui.TestRunner org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.suites.All Hope this helps, -Rick Myrna van Lunteren wrote: Hi, I'm having the most amazingly hard

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-19 Thread Rick Hillegas
to the target datatype of your CAST statement below. Does that sound reasonable? Regards, -Rick On 3/19/07, *Rick Hillegas* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mamta Satoor wrote: Dan, I looked at the SQL 2002 foundation specification. TRIM, UPPER, LOWER

[RESULT] [VOTE] Dag Wanvik as a committer

2007-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
The polls have closed. By unanimous consent and 9 binding PMC votes, Dag is Derby's newest committer. Congratulations, Dag! Here were the +1's (no other votes were cast): Rick Hillegas (PMC) Knut Anders Hatlen (PMC) Lance Andersen Øystein Grøvlen Suresh Thalamati (committer) David Van

recording derby votes

2007-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
I have just recorded two recent votes (Dag's election, and IBM's submission of network server tests) in two places: the STATUS file in the mainline and the VoteResults wiki page (http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/VoteResults). Should this information be recorded somewhere else also? Thanks,

Re: FYI - Derby open code bugs chart

2007-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
This sounds like a good idea. Some of these bugs have been fixed but not closed. Here's how I have been operating: if I fix a bug opened by someone else, I let the bug reporter determine whether the report can be closed. It might be good for people to review the bug reports they have opened to

Re: FYI - Derby open code bugs chart

2007-03-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks, Kathey! Kathey Marsden wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: It might be good for people to review the bug reports they have opened to see if some of them can be closed now. Here is the link to issues you opened that have been resolved but not closed. http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure

timing of the 10.3 release

2007-03-22 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'm hoping that by now we have a fairly clear picture of how 10.3 development is progressing. I'd like to start a discussion about when the community thinks we can produce this release. For my part, I think I'll be done with my contribution by May. Will other people be ready by early or

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Mamta, This is my understanding of what these words mean, based on a quick googling of industry practices. For instance, see http://www.nocomsoftware.se/p5745/files/whatsnew-sb-10.0.0.htm http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms179886.aspx Explicit - This means that a COLLATE clause in

Re: timing of the 10.3 release

2007-03-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Laura Stewart wrote: Rick, in the link that you provided, the 10.3 documentation issues seems to be a private filter. Can you share it so that it can be viewed? Thanks! Hi Laura, Not sure what the sharing problem is. The filter says that it has been shared with derby-developers and your

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Mamta, Thanks for this extensive write-up. This helps me puzzle through the issues although I'm afraid I'm still muddled. Some comments follow inline. Mamta Satoor wrote: lots of good stuff ... SQL spec also talks in various sections about default collation associated with character

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Mamta, Thanks for this extensive write-up. This helps me puzzle through the issues although I'm afraid I'm still muddled. Some comments follow inline. Same here. Mamta Satoor wrote: lots of good stuff ... +1 I think we should

Re: timing of the 10.3 release

2007-03-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks Laura. Are you comfortable with branching 10.3 and generating a release candidate in early May? Regards, -Rick Laura Stewart wrote: On 3/23/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In any event, there are no open documentation issues assigned to 10.3. It appears that the 10.3

Re: lessons from releasing 10.2

2007-03-26 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Andrew, Thanks for responding to my post-mortem. Some comments follow inline... Andrew McIntyre wrote: On 2/22/07, Rick Hillegas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have documented some of the lessons which I learned from being release manager for 10.2: http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby

Re: Any fix release planned before 10.3?

2007-03-28 Thread Rick Hillegas
Jeffrey Clary wrote: I’ve been reading at thread on this list discussing a 10.3 release candidate in early May. Are there any 10.2.x fix releases planned between now and then? Thanks, Jeff Hi Jeff, No one has suggested this yet. My gut feeling is that we will feel pressure to produce a

Re: Regression Test Report - tinderbox_trunk16 523602 - Sun DBTG

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Hillegas
I am also looking at this error. I have managed to get a pared-down version of the lang _Suite to fail on my machine running under jdk 1.6 and using jar files built insane+debug. However, I don't think this is the same failure being seen on the tinderbox machine. For the record, the same

Re: Regression Test Report - tinderbox_trunk16 523602 - Sun DBTG

2007-03-29 Thread Rick Hillegas
Myrna van Lunteren wrote: just fyi at this point - the test is also failing with an NPE with weme6.1. I haven't looked closely at that failure. Myrna Thanks, Myrna. Here's an update: the error I'm seeing is indeed different from the one in the tinderbox run. I'm seeing an error caused by an

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
Mamta Satoor wrote: lots of thoughtful analysis... The character set specification for string literals is not as well defined as for column definitions but my proposal here will work within SQL spec boundaries. SQL spec Section 5.3literal, Syntax Rule 14b says that if the character set is

Re: Collation feature discussion

2007-03-30 Thread Rick Hillegas
up on collation derivation and collation type and put it on the wiki page http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/BuiltInLanguageBasedOrderingDERBY-1478 Thanks to everyone for putting in energy to help me arrive on this final writeup step of collation derivation. Mamta On 3/30/07, *Rick Hillegas

Re: Feedback on wiki page http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/BuiltInLanguageBasedOrderingDERBY-1478

2007-04-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Mamta, Thanks for describing this behavior on a tidy wiki page. Having all of this material collected in one place is great. I have a comment: 6)CHAR, VARCHAR functions do not look like they are defined in the SQL spec. But based on 5) above, the result character string type's collation

Re: some comments on collation wiki page

2007-04-03 Thread Rick Hillegas
Army wrote: Army wrote: Since a parameter maker does not have a defined schema, does current schema mean the schema when the statement is prepared, or the schema when it is executed? For example I can do the following in JDBC: // Default schema (APP). PreparedStatement ps =

running the XML tests

2007-04-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
I'd like to setup my environment so that our XML tests run. I'm having a hard time finding instructions for how to do this. Can someone point me at the instructions for how to do this (which versions of which jar files should be put where, any additional bootclasspath/classpath directives,

Re: running the XML tests

2007-04-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
Thanks Bryan and Narayanan, I have downloaded xalan 2.7.0 (that seems to be the latest release available from the xalan site). I copied the four jar files mentioned by Bryan into the jre/lib/ext directory of my JDK 1.4. This did slightly change the output of the environmental report created

Re: running the XML tests

2007-04-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
. Maybe under Running Tests on the DerbyJUnitTesting wiki page (http://wiki.apache.org/db-derby/DerbyJUnitTesting)? Is there a better place for this advice? Thanks, -Rick Army wrote: Rick Hillegas wrote: I have downloaded xalan 2.7.0 (that seems to be the latest release available from

Re: running the XML tests

2007-04-05 Thread Rick Hillegas
Army wrote: Army wrote: I think the wiki would be helpful, yes. It also might be helpful to include these as javadoc comments somehow, perhaps for the checkXalanVersion() method of junit/XML.java? Or maybe someplace else that you looked when you yourself were trying to figure out why the

Derby unBof at Java One

2007-04-13 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hey folks, Sun Microsystems is hosting a Derby party at Java One. Here are the specifics. Hope to see you there! You are cordially invited to: An Apache Derby unBoF at JavaONE 2007! hosted by Sun Come learn what's cool and what's new in Apache Derby -- the database for Java applications

Re: is anyone looking at new import/export tinderbox errors that look like they started with checkin for DERBY-2193 or DERBY-2444?

2007-04-16 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Mike, I will take a look at this. At first blush, the error seems related to my work on DERBY-2193. Regards, -Rick Mike Matrigali wrote: From tinderbox it looks like the new errors showed up in: http://dbtg.thresher.com/derby/test/tinderbox_trunk16/jvm1.6/FailReports/528565.html

Re: is anyone looking at new import/export tinderbox errors that look like they started with checkin for DERBY-2193 or DERBY-2444?

2007-04-16 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hopefully, revision 529322 fixes this regression. See DERBY-2193 for more information. Regards, -Rick Rick Hillegas wrote: Hi Mike, I will take a look at this. At first blush, the error seems related to my work on DERBY-2193. Regards, -Rick Mike Matrigali wrote: From tinderbox it looks

Re: 10.3 release

2007-04-18 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Myrna, Thanks for volunteering to cat-herd 10.3! I'll help out any way I can. These dates sound fine to me. Regards, -Rick Myrna van Lunteren wrote: Hi, I haven't noticed anyone offering to be release manager for 10.3...so I'm offering to be the release manager. Thx to Rick and

Re: [jira] Created: (DERBY-2575) Rework the release instructions in order to clarify loops and blocks of related tasks.

2007-04-20 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas (JIRA) wrote: Rework the release instructions in order to clarify loops and blocks of related tasks. -- Key: DERBY-2575 URL: https

Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-2570) Create a utility which generates Release Notes

2007-04-23 Thread Rick Hillegas
Daniel John Debrunner wrote: Rick Hillegas (JIRA) wrote: I think the issue may be: Are the release notes source or are they a build artifact? I'm viewing them as a build artifact. The sources for this aftifact are: Then the source for them needs to be completely in svn. o The state

Re: [jira] Commented: (DERBY-716) Re-enable VTIs

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Hillegas
Dag H. Wanvik wrote: A B (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Or as an alternate example, Derby currently supports the following: ij create table st as select * from table (syscs_diag.space_table('T1')) s with no data; Is this form documented anywhere? I can see it in the

Derby in the .orgZone at Java One

2007-04-25 Thread Rick Hillegas
Hi Derby dev folks, At this year's Java One, Derby will have some slots in the .orgZone. I've included a schedule below. This is in addition to the related presence of Java DB and Cloudscape in the Sun and IBM booths. I'm looking for a couple community members who'd be willing to sign up

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