Re: IRC

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Diwaker Gupta wrote: Hi devs, Do the Forrest dev's use IRC? Just wondering... if we have some users then maybe we can have an IRC channel for Forrest. It'll be great for small questions and interactive responses which sometimes gets cumbersome over email. No. All Apache projects use email

Re: Jira for Forrest

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Steven Noels wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: We, the Forrest team, believe that we have now updated all our documentation to point at the new issues tracker at apache.org Could we ask that you place a redirect in your .htaccess to point visitors to the cocoondev.org issue

Re: [jira] Closed: (FOR-520) new skin using views

2005-06-06 Thread Diwaker Gupta
Maybe we should keep this open. As I keep improving the skin, it'll be easier for me to update JIRA. Or should I just send patches to the mailing list? On 6/5/05, Thorsten Scherler (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-520?page=all ] Thorsten

using Jira (Was: [jira] Closed: (FOR-520) new skin using views)

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Diwaker Gupta wrote: Maybe we should keep this open. As I keep improving the skin, it'll be easier for me to update JIRA. It is better to create separate issues in the Issue Tracker for each item that you need to address. That way we can fix each one, then close its Issue. Or should I just

Re: Locationmap now works for repositories

2005-06-06 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I can't remember who wrote the locationmap code it was so long ago. It was Unico Hommes, a Cocoon developer. svn log java/org/apache/forrest/locationmap/lm/LocationMap.java Yes, kudos to him. I had been thinking and talking about it for a long

Re: preview of new skin

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Diwaker Gupta wrote: Its still very much under development and needs a lot of polishing still. So I'll appreciate any comments and feedback :) Nominated for the understatement of the year :-) This skin is a really nice piece of design work and a great addition to what we can offer our

Re: preview of new skin

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Diwaker Gupta wrote: Hmm. Sounds ok, except I haven't got a name for my skin as of now :( Creative minds please come forth. I'm inclined to call it minimalistic :D How about 'no-nonsense' -- Ferdinand Soethe

[jira] Created: (FOR-521) static HTML in views

2005-06-06 Thread Diwaker Gupta (JIRA)
static HTML in views Key: FOR-521 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-521 Project: Forrest Type: Wish Components: Skins (general issues) Versions: 0.8 Reporter: Diwaker Gupta Priority: Minor A final touch for

Re: [RT] Why using views - in comparison with old fashion skins - usecase i18n.

2005-06-06 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux
Hi, I think - like Ross - than Views are a very clean solution to many things. My main problem with skins is exactly what you said : * Source code may be duplicated depending on where it is used, * Granularty is complex problem which do not interest skins. The result is that

Why are other targets only displayed with forrest -v -projecthelp?

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Why are other targets only displayed with forrest -v -projecthelp? Are they suppposed to be hidden from the normal user? -- Ferdinand Soethe

Re: preview of new skin

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thorsten Scherler wrote: [views] Survival guide and setup Let me know whether you have problems. After the setup steps you should see the design because it is now the default. Thanks, will try that today. -- Ferdinand Soethe

Re: IRC

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:59 +1000, David Crossley wrote: Diwaker Gupta wrote: Hi devs, Do the Forrest dev's use IRC? Just wondering... if we have some users then maybe we can have an IRC channel for Forrest. It'll be great for small questions and interactive responses which sometimes

[views] Skin updated

2005-06-06 Thread Diwaker Gupta
Hi everyone, I have updated the skin as per feedback: Check it out here: http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker/ Changes: o now the skin uses a single color for links. the red for current link is gone since the square brackets seem to convey the message o link hover is indicated by underline only.

[jira] Commented: (FOR-514) Do not limit status.xml contexts in project info plugin

2005-06-06 Thread Juan Jose Pablos (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-514?page=comments#action_12312723 ] Juan Jose Pablos commented on FOR-514: -- In order to get this validated with actuall dtd, we need to change: 1) remove the contexts entity:

Fix unfixed? 'Note: Use Ctrl-C to stop the demo Jetty server'

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Did I dream seeing this message 'Note: Use Ctrl-C to stop the demo Jetty server' having been improved some time ago by adding an instruction re aborting the batchfile afterwards? Now it seems back to the old version. -- Ferdinand Soethe

Re: [views] Skin updated

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Diwaker Gupta wrote: I have updated the skin as per feedback: that was quick. hardly enough time to start nagging :-) Check it out here: http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker/ Changes: o now the skin uses a single color for links. the red for current link is gone since the square brackets

[jira] Commented: (FOR-514) Do not limit status.xml contexts in project info plugin

2005-06-06 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-514?page=comments#action_12312729 ] Cyriaque Dupoirieux commented on FOR-514: - Answers to Juan Jose : 1) The patch already updates the common-elems-v10.mod file : Index:

Re: Locationmap now works for repositories

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: I can't remember who wrote the locationmap code it was so long ago. It was Unico Hommes, a Cocoon developer. svn log java/org/apache/forrest/locationmap/lm/LocationMap.java Unico - Thnk you! I'm so sorry it has languished in our SVN for so long,

Re: Handling raw HTML

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... In the meantime I would appreciate it if some could test I have correctly emulated the 0.6 behaviour and see if the docs in fresh-site are clear. I still have to do the FAQ and the update document. It seems to work as described. However

Re: cocoon protocols

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Tim Williams wrote: I'd like to clarify my understanding of the use of cocoon protocols in forrest. The cocoon documentation says: # context:// - get a resource using the servlet context # cocoon:/ - get a pipeline from the current sitemap # cocoon:// - get a pipeline using the root sitemap #

Re: Why are other targets only displayed with forrest -v -projecthelp?

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Why are other targets only displayed with forrest -v -projecthelp? Are they suppposed to be hidden from the normal user? Many targets are internal targets not intended for use by the user. On their own they don't do anything useful. Ross

[jira] Commented: (FOR-506) Do not hard-code site-visible message strings in skin files

2005-06-06 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-506?page=comments#action_12312725 ] Cyriaque Dupoirieux commented on FOR-506: - Hi, If someone creates an empty CommonMessages_fr.xml, I'll send a french patch... Do not hard-code site-visible

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Ross Gardler wrote: Over at Cocoon they are starting to use Daisy for their docs. I propose we do the same. I would prefer to use Lenya, as Cocoon will already stress test the Daisy integration aplenty. On the other hand, I have no will nor time to help, and Daisy is good too. +0 for the

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Over at Cocoon they are starting to use Daisy for their docs. I propose we do the same. I would prefer to use Lenya, as Cocoon will already stress test the Daisy integration aplenty. On the other hand, I have no will nor time to help, and

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I think this is worth considering. It certainly would make corrections and minor adjustments a lot easier. As far as new docs are concerned, it would be nice if we could provide a basic structure for new docs to snap in. The ability to freely add new docs in my

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: As far as new docs are concerned, it would be nice if we could provide a basic structure for new docs to snap in. The ability to freely add new docs in my experience leads to a maze rather then a web of documentation and is not soo desirable

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 12:28 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Over at Cocoon they are starting to use Daisy for their docs. I propose we do the same. I would prefer to use Lenya, as Cocoon will already stress test the Daisy integration

[jira] Commented: (FOR-364) Add Ctrl-C-Info to Jetty Startup-Messages

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-364?page=comments#action_12312747 ] David Crossley commented on FOR-364: I don't know how you will be able to detect that the system is Windows and add that extra clarification. Perhaps Ant can detect the

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I guess the whole issue might come down to a question of philosophy. And while I have fears for our content, I must admit that some wikis such as Wikipedia have evolved into high quality content without a controlling hand. What seems hard to achieve will be to maintain

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Ross Gardler wrote: Yes (at least for Daisy, don't know about Lenya). You can play around by looking at the versions on Daisy home page at CocoonDev.org http://www.cocoondev.org/daisy/index/versions.html lenya doesn't have such a nice diff view yet, so it would have to be an external diff

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Ross Gardler wrote: How difficult is it to provide a version of a page without the navigation stuff, just the raw content? If you can do this then you are already integrated (if you use the locationmap branch of Forrest). fairly trivial. i had no idea integration would be that easy :) let me

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Just a quick remark on that, I guess gregor, andreas, michi and other would happily help us with that, but my time is too limited to actually being a big help for doing it. install is easy enough, and i would gladly do that. we need some

[jira] Resolved: (FOR-364) Add Ctrl-C-Info to Jetty Startup-Messages

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-364?page=all ] Ferdinand Soethe resolved FOR-364: -- Fix Version: 0.7-dev Resolution: Fixed Added os-conditional statement for all OS from the dos-familiy (includes windows) explaining what to do

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I find it very constructive that people are rushing to make it work. Consolidation can come later. i see the site-dev@ list mostly for setting policy at this time, less so for development given the diverse nature of tools on that list (forrest, maven, anakia,

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: How difficult is it to provide a version of a page without the navigation stuff, just the raw content? If you can do this then you are already integrated (if you use the locationmap branch of Forrest). fairly trivial. i had no idea integration

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: Ahh, but that is the smart part of my proposal. Hey, are you saying there are sometimes not so smart parts in your proposals :-) There is no need to move existing docs if we don't want to. With the locationmap branch we can use content form multiple locations. Can

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:12 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: snip/ I'm offering some of my time (post 0.7) to get this going. Can we count on the Lenya team to assist? Thorsten, do you still need to create the Forrest Lenya integration? Can we count on some of your time for that part of it?

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Ahh, but that is the smart part of my proposal. Hey, are you saying there are sometimes not so smart parts in your proposals :-) Well I think my recent fresh-site fix for raw HTML that completely removed the current 0.7 behaviour is a pretty

[jira] Commented: (FOR-364) Add Ctrl-C-Info to Jetty Startup-Messages

2005-06-06 Thread Ferdinand Soethe (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-364?page=comments#action_12312753 ] Ferdinand Soethe commented on FOR-364: -- I have found conditional properties depending on os-families in the ant manual and will play around with those. Add Ctrl-C-Info to

Re: Locationmap now works for repositories

2005-06-06 Thread Tim Williams
I'm thinking my latest round of questions seem to have gotten lost... The ones with a single in front. --tim ... of course site.xml and tabs.xml which are handled differently than other content in xdocs. They are, but they need not be. This is something that needs to be addressed.

[jira] Commented: (FOR-522) fresh-site custom DTD example uses fixed URL space

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-522?page=comments#action_12312788 ] Ross Gardler commented on FOR-522: -- Ahhh, I see. This was done before sitemap passthru's. It is possible to do the necessary overrides now. Thanks for the clarification. I'll

Re: Use Jira to create workflows for standard processes

2005-06-06 Thread Juan Jose Pablos
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Can anybody tell if and how we can use Jira to create standards workflows for things like a release. We already use jira for this. You only need to change the fix for version and then It will be displayed on the road map.

404 Not Found for simplified docbook plugin

2005-06-06 Thread Addi
Quick note: The link from 0.7 Plugin page for simplified docbook plugin (http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/plugins/simplified-docbook) is giving a 404 error. The url does not have the org.apache.forrest.plugin.input part of the name in it like the others do. Addi

Re: 404 Not Found for simplified docbook plugin

2005-06-06 Thread Ross Gardler
Addi wrote: Quick note: The link from 0.7 Plugin page for simplified docbook plugin (http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/plugins/simplified-docbook) is giving a 404 error. The url does not have the org.apache.forrest.plugin.input part of the name in it like the others do. Thanks - fixed

Re: Locationmap now works for repositories

2005-06-06 Thread Tim Williams
On 6/6/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Williams wrote: On 6/6/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Williams wrote: ... map:select type=exists map:when test={project:content.xdocs}tabs.xml map:generate src={project:content.xdocs}tabs.xml/

[jira] Assigned: (FOR-523) minimalist skin update

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-523?page=all ] Thorsten Scherler reassigned FOR-523: - Assign To: Thorsten Scherler minimalist skin update -- Key: FOR-523 URL:

[jira] Commented: (FOR-521) static HTML in views

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-521?page=comments#action_12312799 ] Thorsten Scherler commented on FOR-521: --- Actually pure html should be in a contract IMO. I thought about allowing forrest:hooktext/forrest:hook but that does not feels

[jira] Resolved: (FOR-523) minimalist skin update

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-523?page=all ] Thorsten Scherler resolved FOR-523: --- Resolution: Fixed I added the patch, thx for submission. I renamed the contract because it was not valid against naming conventions. site-header says

Re: 0.7 is nearly there

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: ? So how are we on fixing a schedule for the 0.7 release? As far as I can tell Ross is about to finish fixing and documenting the raw-html issue FOR-505 which leaves only FOR-500 as a blocker. FOR-505 is now done, I've not close because I feel

[jira] Commented: (FOR-506) Do not hard-code site-visible message strings in skin files

2005-06-06 Thread Thorsten Scherler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-506?page=comments#action_12312807 ] Thorsten Scherler commented on FOR-506: --- I just did a copy of the english one and renamed to _fr. BTW you could have done that yourself by: cp CommonMessages_us.xml

Re: Use Jira to create workflows for standard processes

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Can anybody tell if and how we can use Jira to create standards workflows for things like a release. We already use jira for this. You only need to change the fix for version and then It will be displayed on the road map. I gather that

Re: [jira] Commented: (FOR-506) Do not hard-code site-visible message strings in skin files

2005-06-06 Thread Pedro I. Sanchez
On Sun, 2005-05-06 at 14:04 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote: This is key for me. If I cannot specify the language when I run forrest to build my site then this is not a good solution. I guess the other option would be to hard-code value=es_ES in the above. At least this would be just one

[jira] Created: (FOR-524) The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken. --- Key: FOR-524 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524 Project: Forrest Type: Bug Versions: 0.7-dev Reporter: David

[jira] Commented: (FOR-524) The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524?page=comments#action_12312828 ] David Crossley commented on FOR-524: That is broken with the pelt skin. It is okay with the tigris skin. The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: When you have a little demo going pass me a URL for a demo page that has no navigation, I'll add it to the sample in the locationmap branch (we don't have images working yet, but it should only be a sitemap addition).

[jira] Resolved: (FOR-524) The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524?page=all ] David Crossley resolved FOR-524: Resolution: Fixed Oops, i must have been caught between svn revisions. Doing 'svn update' fixed it. Sorry for the noise. The display of note and warning

[jira] Closed: (FOR-524) The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524?page=all ] David Crossley closed FOR-524: -- The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken. --- Key: FOR-524

Re: [PROPOSAL] A CMS for our Docs

2005-06-06 Thread David Crossley
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: David Crossley wrote: ... I find this very alarming. Some people at Infrastructure are trying to get a cross-project environment established for managing documentation tools and site-building. All PMCs were asked to join and discuss this. Some people have, but

Re: [Fwd: Re: using jtidy by default: calling cocoon experts to help!]

2005-06-06 Thread Diwaker Gupta
-- Forwarded message -- From: Thorsten Scherler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diwaker Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:32:13 +0200 Subject: Re: using jtidy by default: calling cocoon experts to help! On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 15:27 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote: Hi