Diwaker Gupta wrote:
Hi devs,
Do the Forrest dev's use IRC? Just wondering... if we have some users
then maybe we can have an IRC channel for Forrest. It'll be great for
small questions and interactive responses which sometimes gets
cumbersome over email.
No. All Apache projects use email
Ross Gardler wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
We, the Forrest team, believe that we have now updated all our
documentation to point at the new issues tracker at apache.org Could
we ask that you place a redirect in your .htaccess to point visitors
to the cocoondev.org issue
Maybe we should keep this open. As I keep improving the skin, it'll be
easier for me to update JIRA. Or should I just send patches to the
mailing list?
On 6/5/05, Thorsten Scherler (JIRA) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-520?page=all ]
Thorsten
Diwaker Gupta wrote:
Maybe we should keep this open. As I keep improving the skin, it'll be
easier for me to update JIRA.
It is better to create separate issues in the Issue Tracker for each
item that you need to address. That way we can fix each one, then
close its Issue.
Or should I just
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
I can't remember who wrote the locationmap code it was so long ago.
It was Unico Hommes, a Cocoon developer.
svn log java/org/apache/forrest/locationmap/lm/LocationMap.java
Yes, kudos to him.
I had been thinking and talking about it for a long
Diwaker Gupta wrote:
Its still very much under development and needs a lot of polishing
still. So I'll appreciate any comments and feedback :)
Nominated for the understatement of the year :-)
This skin is a really nice piece of design work and a great addition
to what we can offer our
Diwaker Gupta wrote:
Hmm. Sounds ok, except I haven't got a name for my skin as of now :(
Creative minds please come forth. I'm inclined to call it
minimalistic :D
How about 'no-nonsense'
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Ferdinand Soethe
static HTML in views
Key: FOR-521
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-521
Project: Forrest
Type: Wish
Components: Skins (general issues)
Versions: 0.8
Reporter: Diwaker Gupta
Priority: Minor
A final touch for
Hi,
I think - like Ross - than Views are a very clean solution to many
things.
My main problem with skins is exactly what you said :
* Source code may be duplicated depending on where it is used,
* Granularty is complex problem which do not interest skins. The
result is that
Why are other targets only displayed with forrest -v -projecthelp?
Are they suppposed to be hidden from the normal user?
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Ferdinand Soethe
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
[views] Survival guide and setup
Let me know whether you have problems. After the setup steps you should
see the design because it is now the default.
Thanks, will try that today.
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Ferdinand Soethe
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 15:59 +1000, David Crossley wrote:
Diwaker Gupta wrote:
Hi devs,
Do the Forrest dev's use IRC? Just wondering... if we have some users
then maybe we can have an IRC channel for Forrest. It'll be great for
small questions and interactive responses which sometimes
Hi everyone,
I have updated the skin as per feedback:
Check it out here:
http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker/
Changes:
o now the skin uses a single color for links. the red for current link
is gone since the square brackets seem to convey the message
o link hover is indicated by underline only.
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-514?page=comments#action_12312723 ]
Juan Jose Pablos commented on FOR-514:
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In order to get this validated with actuall dtd, we need to change:
1) remove the contexts entity:
Did I dream seeing this message
'Note: Use Ctrl-C to stop the demo Jetty server'
having been improved some time ago by
adding an instruction re aborting the batchfile afterwards? Now it
seems back to the old version.
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Ferdinand Soethe
Diwaker Gupta wrote:
I have updated the skin as per feedback:
that was quick. hardly enough time to start nagging :-)
Check it out here:
http://resolute.ucsd.edu/diwaker/
Changes:
o now the skin uses a single color for links. the red for current link
is gone since the square brackets
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-514?page=comments#action_12312729 ]
Cyriaque Dupoirieux commented on FOR-514:
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Answers to Juan Jose :
1) The patch already updates the common-elems-v10.mod file :
Index:
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
I can't remember who wrote the locationmap code it was so long ago.
It was Unico Hommes, a Cocoon developer.
svn log java/org/apache/forrest/locationmap/lm/LocationMap.java
Unico - Thnk you!
I'm so sorry it has languished in our SVN for so long,
David Crossley wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
...
In the meantime I would appreciate it if some could test I have
correctly emulated the 0.6 behaviour and see if the docs in fresh-site
are clear. I still have to do the FAQ and the update document.
It seems to work as described.
However
Tim Williams wrote:
I'd like to clarify my understanding of the use of cocoon protocols in
forrest. The cocoon documentation says:
# context:// - get a resource using the servlet context
# cocoon:/ - get a pipeline from the current sitemap
# cocoon:// - get a pipeline using the root sitemap
#
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
Why are other targets only displayed with forrest -v -projecthelp?
Are they suppposed to be hidden from the normal user?
Many targets are internal targets not intended for use by the user. On
their own they don't do anything useful.
Ross
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-506?page=comments#action_12312725 ]
Cyriaque Dupoirieux commented on FOR-506:
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Hi,
If someone creates an empty CommonMessages_fr.xml, I'll send a french
patch...
Do not hard-code site-visible
Ross Gardler wrote:
Over at Cocoon they are starting to use Daisy for their docs. I propose
we do the same.
I would prefer to use Lenya, as Cocoon will already stress test the
Daisy integration aplenty. On the other hand, I have no will nor time to
help, and Daisy is good too.
+0 for the
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
Over at Cocoon they are starting to use Daisy for their docs. I
propose we do the same.
I would prefer to use Lenya, as Cocoon will already stress test the
Daisy integration aplenty. On the other hand, I have no will nor time to
help, and
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
I think this is worth considering.
It certainly would make corrections and minor adjustments a lot
easier.
As far as new docs are concerned, it would be nice if we could provide
a basic structure for new docs to snap in. The ability to freely add
new docs in my
Ross Gardler wrote:
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
As far as new docs are concerned, it would be nice if we could provide
a basic structure for new docs to snap in. The ability to freely add
new docs in my experience leads to a maze rather then a web of
documentation and is not soo desirable
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 12:28 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
Over at Cocoon they are starting to use Daisy for their docs. I
propose we do the same.
I would prefer to use Lenya, as Cocoon will already stress test the
Daisy integration
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-364?page=comments#action_12312747 ]
David Crossley commented on FOR-364:
I don't know how you will be able to detect that the system is Windows and add
that extra clarification. Perhaps Ant can detect the
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
I guess the whole issue might come down to a question of philosophy.
And while I have fears for our content, I must admit that some wikis
such as Wikipedia have evolved into high quality content without a
controlling hand.
What seems hard to achieve will be to maintain
Ross Gardler wrote:
Yes (at least for Daisy, don't know about Lenya). You can play around by
looking at the versions on Daisy home page at CocoonDev.org
http://www.cocoondev.org/daisy/index/versions.html
lenya doesn't have such a nice diff view yet, so it would have to be an
external diff
Ross Gardler wrote:
How difficult is it to provide a version of a page without the
navigation stuff, just the raw content? If you can do this then you are
already integrated (if you use the locationmap branch of Forrest).
fairly trivial. i had no idea integration would be that easy :) let me
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
Thorsten Scherler wrote:
Just a quick remark on that, I guess gregor, andreas, michi and other
would happily help us with that, but my time is too limited to actually
being a big help for doing it.
install is easy enough, and i would gladly do that. we need some
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-364?page=all ]
Ferdinand Soethe resolved FOR-364:
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Fix Version: 0.7-dev
Resolution: Fixed
Added os-conditional statement for all OS from the dos-familiy (includes
windows) explaining what to do
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
I find it very constructive that people are rushing to make it work.
Consolidation can come later.
i see the site-dev@ list mostly for setting policy at this time, less so
for development given the diverse nature of tools on that list (forrest,
maven, anakia,
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
How difficult is it to provide a version of a page without the
navigation stuff, just the raw content? If you can do this then you
are already integrated (if you use the locationmap branch of Forrest).
fairly trivial. i had no idea integration
Ross Gardler wrote:
Ahh, but that is the smart part of my proposal.
Hey, are you saying there are sometimes not so smart parts in your
proposals :-)
There is no need to
move existing docs if we don't want to. With the locationmap branch we
can use content form multiple locations.
Can
On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 16:12 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
snip/
I'm offering some of my time (post 0.7) to get this going.
Can we count on the Lenya team to assist?
Thorsten, do you still need to create the Forrest Lenya integration? Can
we count on some of your time for that part of it?
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
Ahh, but that is the smart part of my proposal.
Hey, are you saying there are sometimes not so smart parts in your
proposals :-)
Well I think my recent fresh-site fix for raw HTML that completely
removed the current 0.7 behaviour is a pretty
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-364?page=comments#action_12312753 ]
Ferdinand Soethe commented on FOR-364:
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I have found conditional properties depending on os-families in the ant manual
and will play around with those.
Add Ctrl-C-Info to
I'm thinking my latest round of questions seem to have gotten lost...
The ones with a single in front.
--tim
...
of course site.xml and tabs.xml which are handled differently than
other content in xdocs.
They are, but they need not be. This is something that needs to be
addressed.
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-522?page=comments#action_12312788 ]
Ross Gardler commented on FOR-522:
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Ahhh, I see. This was done before sitemap passthru's. It is possible to do the
necessary overrides now. Thanks for the clarification.
I'll
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
Can anybody tell if and how we can use Jira to create standards workflows for
things like a release.
We already use jira for this. You only need to change the fix for
version and then It will be displayed on the road map.
Quick note:
The link from 0.7 Plugin page for simplified docbook plugin
(http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/plugins/simplified-docbook) is
giving a 404 error. The url does not have the
org.apache.forrest.plugin.input part of the name in it like the others do.
Addi
Addi wrote:
Quick note:
The link from 0.7 Plugin page for simplified docbook plugin
(http://forrest.apache.org/0.7/docs/plugins/simplified-docbook) is
giving a 404 error. The url does not have the
org.apache.forrest.plugin.input part of the name in it like the others
do.
Thanks - fixed
On 6/6/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Williams wrote:
On 6/6/05, Ross Gardler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tim Williams wrote:
...
map:select type=exists
map:when test={project:content.xdocs}tabs.xml
map:generate src={project:content.xdocs}tabs.xml/
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-523?page=all ]
Thorsten Scherler reassigned FOR-523:
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Assign To: Thorsten Scherler
minimalist skin update
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Key: FOR-523
URL:
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-521?page=comments#action_12312799 ]
Thorsten Scherler commented on FOR-521:
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Actually pure html should be in a contract IMO.
I thought about allowing forrest:hooktext/forrest:hook but that does not
feels
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-523?page=all ]
Thorsten Scherler resolved FOR-523:
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Resolution: Fixed
I added the patch, thx for submission. I renamed the contract because it was
not valid against naming conventions. site-header says
Ross Gardler wrote:
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
? So how are we on fixing a schedule for the 0.7 release?
As far as I can tell Ross is about to finish fixing and documenting
the raw-html issue FOR-505 which leaves only FOR-500 as a blocker.
FOR-505 is now done, I've not close because I feel
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-506?page=comments#action_12312807 ]
Thorsten Scherler commented on FOR-506:
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I just did a copy of the english one and renamed to _fr.
BTW you could have done that yourself by:
cp CommonMessages_us.xml
Juan Jose Pablos wrote:
Ferdinand Soethe wrote:
Can anybody tell if and how we can use Jira to create standards workflows
for
things like a release.
We already use jira for this. You only need to change the fix for
version and then It will be displayed on the road map.
I gather that
On Sun, 2005-05-06 at 14:04 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote:
This is key for me. If I cannot specify the language when I run
forrest to build my site then this is not a good solution. I guess the
other option would be to hard-code value=es_ES in the above. At least
this would be just one
The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.
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Key: FOR-524
URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524
Project: Forrest
Type: Bug
Versions: 0.7-dev
Reporter: David
[
http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524?page=comments#action_12312828 ]
David Crossley commented on FOR-524:
That is broken with the pelt skin. It is okay with the tigris skin.
The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote:
Ross Gardler wrote:
When you have a little demo going pass me a URL for a demo page that has
no navigation, I'll add it to the sample in the locationmap branch (we
don't have images working yet, but it should only be a sitemap addition).
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524?page=all ]
David Crossley resolved FOR-524:
Resolution: Fixed
Oops, i must have been caught between svn revisions. Doing 'svn update' fixed
it. Sorry for the noise.
The display of note and warning
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-524?page=all ]
David Crossley closed FOR-524:
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The display of note and warning and fixme elements is broken.
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Key: FOR-524
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
David Crossley wrote:
...
I find this very alarming. Some people at Infrastructure are
trying to get a cross-project environment established for managing
documentation tools and site-building. All PMCs were asked to
join and discuss this. Some people have, but
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From: Thorsten Scherler [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Diwaker Gupta [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:32:13 +0200
Subject: Re: using jtidy by default: calling cocoon experts to help!
On Sun, 2005-06-05 at 15:27 -0700, Diwaker Gupta wrote:
Hi
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