Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 09:54, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > > On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open >> Office before deciding that the project wasn’t worth the effort >>

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Rich Bowen
On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open Office before deciding that the project wasn’t worth the effort

RE: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
There are users who will find the political drama compelling. There is nothing to be done about that. It does not make the product better and it distracts those who want to find ways to serve the broad community no matter what code base is being worked on. The asymmetrical situation around

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Kay Schenk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/03/2015 04:11 AM, Tony Stevenson wrote: > > This is an interesting read: > > http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech > > > > > > Many

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 12:33, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > > On 09/03/2015 07:22 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: >> >>> On 03 Sep 15, at 09:54, Rich Bowen wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: "After LibreOffice came

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2015-09-03 17:48 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton : > There are users who will find the political drama compelling. There is > nothing to be done about that. It does not make the product better and it > distracts those who want to find ways to serve the broad community no >

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 15:05, Roberto Galoppini wrote: > > 2015-09-03 17:48 GMT+02:00 Dennis E. Hamilton : > >> There are users who will find the political drama compelling. There is >> nothing to be done about that. It does not make the

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > > On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >> >> "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open >> Office before deciding that the project wasn’t worth the effort >> >>

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Tony Stevenson
> Interesting yet not quite accurate. I never made any claims to it's accuracy. I was hoping someone would do exactly what Rich suggested, but preferably without the prompting that Rich afforded the group. The reason for sending it to this list was to see the reaction it got, and how that

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Kay Schenk
On 09/03/2015 07:22 AM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> On 03 Sep 15, at 09:54, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> >> >> On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >>> "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of >>> Oracle Open Office before deciding that the

ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in The Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/ There are three issues that require attention in a very short time. Deadline is 8 September when not otherwise specified.

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 03 Sep 15, at 15:13, Rob Weir wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: >> >> >> On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM, Fernando Cassia wrote: >>> >>> "After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open >>> Office before

Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-03 Thread Max Merbald
Hi there, the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see where they have the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I think it's definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no more is done about it. The problem is also that LibreOffice has just published its

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-03 Thread Phillip Rhodes
I just looked at the Wikipedia page and don't see anything that's - strictly speaking - incorrect, or lacking citations. IOW, I don't see any supportable rationale for removing anything that's there, although one could question the motives of whoever made it a point to call out some concerns

Ian Lynch (ingotian) passed away

2015-09-03 Thread Andrea Pescetti
I was astonished to learn, a couple days ago, that Ian Lynch passed away. Many of you were probably closer to him and already got the news (Ian passed away three months ago) but I don't recall reading it on the OpenOffice lists. I had never met Ian, but I knew him as a key contributor in the

Re: Wrongful information on the Wikipedia

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi Max, > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:31, Max Merbald wrote: > > Hi there, > > the Engish Wikipedia claims that AOO is dormant. I can't see where they have > the information from. The sources they use don't say so. I think it's > definitely bad for OpenOffice when people think no

glibc errors with buildbot build Linux-32

2015-09-03 Thread Kay Schenk
I couldn't verify the fix for https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=117989 with my own build--Macro button not expanding! :( so I just downloaded and installed the latest Linux-32 rpm from our buildbots. Normally I do a verbose option on rpm install but I didn't this time. In any case, I am

AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Tony Stevenson
This is an interesting read: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/askjack/2015/sep/03/switch-openoffice-libreoffice-or-microsoft-office?CMP=twt_a-technology_b-gdntech Many thanks, -- Tony pgp9FGHFgNW9g.pgp Description: PGP signature

openoffice.org website - please change my name

2015-09-03 Thread David Sterr
Hi, I'm sorry I have to write a second time: Who is responsible for this https://www.openoffice.org/de/marketing/referenzkunden.html list? I am at a new company and do not want that my name is listed with the old one - so can you please tell me how I can contact the webmaster of this

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Thursday, September 3, 2015, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > > > On 03 Sep 15, at 15:13, Rob Weir > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Rich Bowen > wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 09/03/2015 08:33 AM,

Re: Ian Lynch (ingotian) passed away

2015-09-03 Thread JZA
Feel a bit bad since I knew about this news for the past few weeks. I didnt want to be the one disclosing the news to the rest of the community since other members also knew about this event and probably would be better prepared to announce it. I remember working with Ian personally and sometimes

FW: [DISCUSSION] ODF Plugfest, September 2015

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
More information about the Plugfest for some who might not have noticed earlier. I have edited this lightly to reflect the current status in my case. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dennis E. Hamilton [mailto:orc...@apache.org] Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 15:31 To:

Re: Ian Lynch (ingotian) passed away

2015-09-03 Thread Tony Stevenson
On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, at 11:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > I hope that someone who knew him better will volunteer and write a > couple paragraphs for the OpenOffice blog in his memory. > The ASF also has it's own memorials page - http://www.apache.org/memorials/

Re: Ian Lynch (ingotian) passed away

2015-09-03 Thread Tony Stevenson
On a formal note the PMC chair ought to probably notify root@ and secretary@ of this. -- Many thanks, -- Tony On Thu, 3 Sep 2015, at 11:01 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > I was astonished to learn, a couple days ago, that Ian Lynch passed > away. Many of you were probably closer to him and

Re: Ian Lynch (ingotian) passed away

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Andrea, et al., > On 03 Sep 15, at 18:01, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > I was astonished to learn, a couple days ago, that Ian Lynch passed away. > Many of you were probably closer to him and already got the news (Ian passed > away three months ago) but I don't recall

Re: ODF Plugfest: participation and leaflets

2015-09-03 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
Hi all, Comments inline. > On 03 Sep 15, at 16:24, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > As we discussed some weeks ago, the next ODF Plugfest will be held in The > Hague, Netherlands, mid-September: > http://plugfest.opendocumentformat.org/2015-thehague/programme/ > > There are

Re: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Fernando Cassia
"After LibreOffice came out, Oracle released one version of Oracle Open Office before deciding that the project wasn’t worth the effort . It laid off the programmers and gave the code

RE: AOO -> LO or MS O

2015-09-03 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
A little more on the importance of OpenOffice in the context of use in civil administration. An example of advocacy-organization promotion of ODF-based documents and the primary implementations are presented can be found in the report linked at