Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-07-27 Thread Cathy Crumbley
noticed an archived tender (July 2016) to redesign the download page. Does anyone know if that means that it has already been redesigned and that it will not be changed for a while? Thanks again. Cathy On 7/26/2017 7:00 PM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Cathy Em 25/07/2017 22:08, Cathy Crum

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-07-27 Thread Cathy Crumbley
wrote: Hello Cathy Em 27/07/2017 15:16, Cathy Crumbley escreveu: Hi Olivier, (snip) Finally, I downloaded the file and realized what I have been missing. Perhaps I am a dunderhead but if I missed the Help files, perhaps others have. I would strongly recommend that the download page be clearer

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-08-04 Thread Cathy Crumbley
ve a group of people specialized in software user interface design that evaluates all aspects of the human interaction with the software. Em 28/07/2017 23:27, Cathy Crumbley escreveu: I appreciate your advice about how to get the wording revised on the program download page. Unfortunately, I don't

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-07-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
ibreOffice is in the works. I don't really understand the rest of it, but at least I now know that Pootle is related to that project. On 7/28/2017 4:41 AM, Sophie wrote: Hi Cathy, Le 27/07/2017 à 21:55, Cathy Crumbley a écrit : Hi Olivier, Thanks again for the responses. If this has been a problem for

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-07-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
wrote: Hi Cathy, Cathy Crumbley wrote on 28-07-17 06:18: Just to be clear, I was not expressing problems with the Help files. In fact, I was not even aware that they exist when I wrote this. In know that you was talking about the user interface. That is what my comment is about too ;) On 7

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-08-04 Thread Cathy Crumbley
software, it is a tool/facility/service used by the translators for many aspects of the software. On 29.07.2017 02:14, Cathy Crumbley wrote: Thanks for your input. These is much to learn! I am referring to the LibreOffice download page. Why? Because it sounds like I am not the only one

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] simplifying documentation

2017-07-27 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Cor, Just to be clear, I was not expressing problems with the Help files. In fact, I was not even aware that they exist when I wrote this. Thank you! Cathy On 7/27/2017 3:52 AM, Cor Nouws wrote: Hi Cathy, Dave wrote on 26-07-17 11:26: On 26.07.2017 03:08, Cathy Crumbley wrote

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New member

2017-06-08 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Jean, Thank you. This is what I wanted. I have started to review the chapters and should warn you that there will probably be a number of comments for you to look over. Nearly all would be minor issues of formatting and clarity. As someone still trying to figure out Libreoffice, I hope

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New member questions

2017-06-22 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Thank you for the helpful responses. I tried to activate my account and received the following error message. Can you help with this or should I send it to the list? On 6/20/2017 5:34 AM, Jean Weber wrote: Answers inline. On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 at 08:00 Cathy Crumbley <catcr...@gmail.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New member questions

2017-06-23 Thread Cathy Crumbley
nd you a new link. If it still doesn't work, sounds like the website may be having a hiccup again. Olivier, if needed, can you help? I've not been very involved for some time, so I may not know what to do about this problem. --Jean On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 2:07 AM, Cathy Crumbley <catcr

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New member questions

2017-06-23 Thread Cathy Crumbley
, as shown in the attached screenshot (which may not be visible on the list). Choose "File" from the drop-down list. As you found, there is no way to drag or paste files into the website. --Jean On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 12:13 PM, Cathy Crumbley <catcr...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Jean, Th

[libreoffice-documentation] New member

2017-06-07 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, I would like to introduce myself. I am already a non-technical writer/editor and want to develop more technical skills. I would like to start by helping to edit and write Libreoffice documentation. It looks like the agenda for today's meeting could be useful for me. However, I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Returning to work on GS6.0 Guide

2018-01-24 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I will look over the Writer chapter. On 1/24/2018 2:09 AM, Dave Barton wrote: Hi Cathy, On 24.01.2018 04:24, Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi Dave, I could help with whatever is the highest priority for GS5--either Base or Writer. Thanks, that would be a big help. The Base or Writer chapters don't

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide 5.4 is released

2018-01-31 Thread Cathy Crumbley
documentation. On 1/29/2018 4:51 PM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hello Community Thanks to Jean Weber, Cathy Crumbley and Bruce Byfield, we have now the latest Writer Guide available for download. Read more on the achievement in our blog at https://blog.documentfoundation.org/blog/2018/01/29

[libreoffice-documentation] The essence of styles

2018-01-31 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I have been reviewing the Writer chapter, Chapter 4 of the Getting Started Guide, and have a suggestion. For me, two of the more confusing issues with LibreOffice (and judging from the forums, others as well) has been understanding how styles work together—especially paragraph and character

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] The essence of styles

2018-02-01 Thread Cathy Crumbley
there be a graphic designer who could help us? On 1/31/2018 11:24 AM, John L Hart Jr wrote: I agree with Cathy Crumbley with her suggestion.  I have always had some trouble using  Syles and understanding just how to use them to the fullest. Since I am not proficient in the use of Styles I do

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] The essence of styles

2018-02-01 Thread Cathy Crumbley
. Cathy On 2/1/2018 4:33 PM, Valerii Goncharuk wrote: Hi Cathy, Do you remember that there a book about styles and templates? http://designingwithlibreoffice.com/download-buy/ Best regards, Lera 2018-02-02 0:12 GMT+03:00 Cathy Crumbley <catcr...@gmail.com <mailto:catcr...@gmail.com>&g

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] The essence of styles

2018-02-01 Thread Cathy Crumbley
- From: Valerii Goncharuk <lera.goncha...@gmail.com> To: Cathy Crumbley <catcr...@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 00:33:02 +0300 Hi Cathy, Do you remember that there a book about styles and templates? http://designingwithlibreoffice.com/download-buy/ Best regards, Lera 201

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] The essence of styles

2018-02-24 Thread Cathy Crumbley
formatting. I hope it makes clear the difference between direct formatting and styles formatting. The chapter is in the 6.0 feedback folder in ODFAuthor Kind regards Olivier Em 31/01/2018 14:15, Cathy Crumbley escreveu: I have been reviewing the Writer chapter, Chapter 4 of the Getting Started

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Returning to work on GS6.0 Guide

2018-01-23 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Dave, I could help with whatever is the highest priority for GS5--either Base or Writer. If Writer, I would prefer not to work on the sections that I previously edited for the Writer 5 guide (and I think they are now in the LO 6 drafts). If Base is the higher priority, I should note

[libreoffice-documentation] GS6004 - Writer - edits uploaded

2018-02-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, I just uploaded the Writer chapter. I made a lot of changes, but most are fairly minor. Others I described in the comments with the upload. Mainly I tried to do things: 1. Ensure that the information is accurate and current 2. Make it a bit more understandable for someone who is not

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Workflow for the Calc 6.2 Guide

2018-10-22 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I don't think I have access to Nextcloud. What do I need to do to get it? Thanks. Cathy On 10/22/2018 1:41 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Updated that workflow diagram this morning. Latest here in a jpeg https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/z6PB5CQ7YSNHMaH The .odg file link earlier is also

[libreoffice-documentation] how get Calc 6.2?

2018-10-27 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi, I didn't realize that we have access to an experimental version of Calc 6.2. How do I get a copy of it? Thanks. Cathy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting

[libreoffice-documentation] Icon style, screenshots, and chapters

2018-11-05 Thread Cathy Crumbley
HI, The default icon set for LO 6.2 appears to be Colibre. Should we still use Tango for making screenshots? To be consistent, should we use the same software and styles to make arrows and write text in the screenshots? I would be happy to use whatever others use. Have there been any

[libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-07 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, The Contributor Guide is extremely helpful and I deeply appreciate that someone --presumably Jean--invested the time and energy to create it. I would just like a little bit of clarification. Chapter 2 provides guidelines for indexing. On page 11, the guidelines say: "The translators

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-12 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Entry field. In order to avoid these "surrounded words", one needs to enter something else (maybe the suggested space after) or to place the entry to a neighboring word. Milos On 11/8/18 6:18 AM, Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi All, The Contributor Guide is extremely helpful and I deeply app

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft Proposal for a 6.x Guides Template

2018-11-12 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Dave, Your revision of the template is quite helpful. Some of my thoughts follow below. Cathy On 11/5/2018 4:55 PM, Dave Barton wrote: Another "little" LO Documentation task I set for myself over the weekend was to draft a proposal for a template for the 6.x series guides, which I have

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-12 Thread Cathy Crumbley
, 2018 at 8:07 PM Cathy Crumbley <mailto:catcr...@gmail.com>> wrote: HI Milos, Thank you for taking the time to explain.  For editing Writer documentation, I needed to learn about Hunspell, so understand the issue you are facing. To help me understand this bette

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Tabbed notebook bar will no longer be experimental with 6.2 release

2018-11-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Drew, I am not clear about why it is considered standard. It appears that experimental features still need to be enabled. If it will be a standard feature, then it should be mentioned in Chapter 1. Since it will not be the default view, it seems like that should be enough. Cathy On

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
oops. I meant to say that I am *NOT* questioning the rationale. On 11/13/2018 10:20 AM, Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi Martin, I understand the need and certainly want to make sure that your needs are met. I am questioning the rationale. Rather, I am just trying to understand how it works

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Martin, I understand the need and certainly want to make sure that your needs are met. I am questioning the rationale. Rather, I am just trying to understand how it works. Specifically: 1. How does simply clicking before a word or phrase rather than selecting it give the result you

[libreoffice-documentation] What baffles users? What help do they need?

2018-11-15 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, While merrily editing chapters in the Calc user guide, I have been wondering about what users have the most problems with. Surely we would provide an important service by addressing those problems in our documentation. Of  course, there are many types of users with various levels of

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Icon style, screenshots, and chapters

2018-11-06 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I thought it made more sense as a natural flow for the subject matter, but yes that will involve clean up of references.. so? Thanks, Drew On Mon, Nov 5, 2018 at 2:13 PM Cathy Crumbley wrote: HI, The default icon set for LO 6.2 appears to be Colibre. Should we still use Tango for making s

[libreoffice-documentation] checking out Calc chapters

2018-11-06 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Drew, I just tried to record that I am checking out Chapter 3, Charts and Graphs. I was not able to enter any text in the Guide Status. Is it locked? I am not sure about the return date - maybe December 10 for both chapters (1 and 3). Cathy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

[libreoffice-documentation] chapter check out

2018-11-06 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Drew, I just tried to record that I am checking out Chapter 3, Charts and Graphs. I was not able to enter any text in the Guide Status. Is it locked? I am not sure about the return data - maybe December 5 for both chapter (1 and 3). Cathy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to:

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-08 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Are you saying that an issue arises when there is a custom number field inside an index entry? That seems highly unlikely.  Perhaps I am not following what you are saying. On 11/8/2018 10:29 AM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Em 08/11/2018 04:12, Jean Weber escreveu: Chapter 2 provides guidelines for

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Indexing Clarification Needed

2018-11-14 Thread Cathy Crumbley
e document, which I didn't select for the index, i then forego the ability to auto select all the instances and instead find them by hand, then select another space character and do it all over again and again. Is that it? On Mon, Nov 12, 2018 at 8:07 PM Cathy Crumbley wrote: HI Milos, Thank you

[libreoffice-documentation] first set of edits to Calc Chapter One uploaded

2018-12-04 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, I made a number of edits to Chapter 1, Introducing Calc. I am not finished, but track changes has become increasingly slow. At our last meeting, we agreed that I would share the file so that the edits to date could be reviewed and accepted by someone else, making the file easier for

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] first set of edits to Calc Chapter One uploaded

2018-12-04 Thread Cathy Crumbley
d copy number during the upload. Either way works for me, but my first thought is to just work with it on-line, which is what I'll do unless I hear otherwise from you. Ah, and as I look I see Dave there also.. // drew On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:01 PM Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi All, I made a number

[libreoffice-documentation] need simple graphic design suggestions

2018-11-21 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, Those of us working on the next Calc user guide would like to establish uniform guidelines for annotating graphics, mostly screenshots. We plan to use Draw to produce arrows/lines with explanatory text. Of course, we want the annotations to be clear and attractive as well as

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] What baffles users? What help do they need?

2018-11-22 Thread Cathy Crumbley
wrote: On Thu, Nov 15, 2018 at 11:43 PM Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi All, Howdy Cathy, Just a quick comment on mining the ask bot site - added in line. While merrily editing chapters in the Calc user guide, I have been wondering about what users have the most problems with. Surely we would

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] DOC Meeting Minutes 2018-11-21

2018-11-22 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I thought Heiko spoke with a lovely British accent.:) On 11/22/2018 4:09 PM, Dave Barton wrote: On 22.11.2018 18:55, Olivier Hallot wrote: Wednesday November 21th2018, at 19:30 Berlin Time Presents: Drew, Cathy, Heiko, Olivier, Sophia Schröder(not in the call) Oops! Did I become invisible?

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide 6.2 Chapter 5 revised and uploaded

2019-04-03 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Jean, You are whipping through these chapters at an amazing rate. We are so fortunate that you are on the team! Cathy On 4/3/2019 3:23 AM, Jean Weber wrote: I have revised Chapter 5, Using Graphics in Calc, and uploaded it to the CG 6.2 Feedback folder. I cut out much of the detail in

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Season Of Docs from Google

2019-03-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Good question. As you may have found out, finding a clear answer on the US Treasury Department website is hopeless. However, Google lists what are probably the current countries/regions: Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Sudan, and Syria

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at >>>>18:00 UTC <<<

2019-05-15 Thread Cathy Crumbley
oops. Just realized it was UTC time. Sorry to have missed the meeting. Good to see the new people. On 5/15/2019 8:39 AM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC We will use the following jitsi

[libreoffice-documentation] some style and formatting issues for discussion

2019-05-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, It would be helpful to discuss and agree on some style and formatting issues that are not fully covered in the Contributor Guide. These are all small issues but it would be good to have more consistency. If time, perhaps these issues could be discussed tomorrow. We can then update the

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Taken Chapter 7, Formulas and Functions for a first review

2019-05-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I was not aware of that. The Contributor Guide should be updated to reflect this. On 5/15/2019 7:44 AM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hello Kees Thank you for reviewing Chapter 7. When reviewing or authoring, please note that the references to tables or figures must be restricted to the number, and

[libreoffice-documentation] help with template for annotating screenshots

2019-05-30 Thread Cathy Crumbley
At yesterday's meeting, we decided that for annotating screenshots, we would use the example on page 11 in Using the LO Chapter Template, Chapter 6, of the Contributor Guide. Might someone be able to develop specifications based on that example? I don't have a lot of graphics expertise and

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question of Terminology?

2019-05-31 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I don't have strong opinions about what we should use, but keep in mind that we need two different terms to describe the subunits of sidebars. Thus, at least in other LO guides I have worked on, "decks" are the equivalent of pages and "panels" are the equivalent of sections of pages. When I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Question of Terminology?

2019-05-31 Thread Cathy Crumbley
, Drew Jensen wrote: Howdy, An example of deck and panel usage is in this blog from 2017 https://design.blog.documentfoundation.org/2017/02/16/guidelines-for-keyboard-navigation-in-the-sidebar/ On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 9:24 AM Cathy Crumbley wrote: I don't have strong opinions about what we should

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Pivot charts in pivot tables chapter?

2019-06-06 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Steve, Just realized you are working on Chapter 8, Using Pivot Tables. I think that pivot tables should be discussed before pivot charts. Can I assume that you will include a section on pivot charts? I would like to refer to it in the chart chapter. Cathy On 5/26/2019 2:05 PM, Dave Barton

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Taken Calc Guide Chapter 1 For 1st. Review.

2019-05-09 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi Kees, I did a lot of work on Chapter 1, in fact I pretty much rewrote it. With track changes on, it was getting so hard to work with it that I asked Drew to review it and accept or reject my changes. After that, using track changes would not slow me down so much. When Drew finished

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Taken Calc Guide Chapter 1 For 1st. Review.

2019-05-10 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Glad you are on the case. On 5/10/2019 2:08 AM, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: Cathy Crumbley schreef op 09.05.2019 18:08: Hi Kees, Hi Cathy When Drew finished reviewing Chapter 1, he put it in the Feedback folder. There was hardly anything else there at the time and I had forgotten

[libreoffice-documentation] what is best meeting time?

2019-05-03 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, Dave, it is  good to hear from you again. Drew and I agreed on Wednesday that it would be great if Dave and Jean could join the biweekly meetings. We are both in US eastern time (EDT) and flexible about the meeting time. Olivier in Rio is one hour ahead of us. My understanding is

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: some style and formatting issues for discussion

2019-07-02 Thread Cathy Crumbley
:52 PM, Cathy Crumbley wrote: Hi All, It would be helpful to discuss and agree on some style and formatting issues that are not fully covered in the Contributor Guide. These are all small issues but it would be good to have more consistency. If time, perhaps these issues could be discussed

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC

2019-08-07 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Sorry that I was not able to join today. For some reason I thought there was no meeting this week. On 8/7/2019 9:47 AM, Olivier Hallot wrote: Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) ! Our documentation team meeting will take place today at 18:00 UTC We will use the following jitsi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Cathy Crumbley Status of Calc Guide Chapter 3?

2019-07-20 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Well, that is a good question. Thank you for the gentle nudge. I certainly had no idea it would take me this long. I have substantially revised and updated the chapter and am now tidying it up.  I intend to submit a draft in the next week or so. I have not looked at the list for a while. Is

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] REMIND: Documentation team call is today at 18:00 UTC

2019-12-04 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, I have a conflict with the meeting today. I may be able to join toward the end but that may not be possible. I looked at the documentation pad and see that Steve has the same concern I do about indexing. It would be helpful to know if chapters other than ours were indexed. Cathy

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 3

2019-10-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
I was still using the older styles and assumed that the MenuPath character style would be converted to Strong Emphasis when all of the styles were converted to the new styles. I believe that the two styles are exactly the same, with the exception of their names. So, Kees, you are correct. On

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 3

2019-10-21 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Jean, Thank you for your work on the chapter and for the kind words. Such praise—especially coming from you—means a lot. I hope that you will be enjoying yourself over the next several weeks. Cathy On 10/18/2019 1:17 AM, Jean Weber wrote: I have put this chapter into the new template and

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] FYI Text in shapes

2019-10-28 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Regina, Thank you for taking the time to so clearly explain these issues. Although I am neither a developer nor an advanced user, it helped me to better understand some aspects of shapes and will be a useful resource. By the way, you are wrong about your English ability. Your English is

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Status of Calc Guide 6.2

2019-11-25 Thread Cathy Crumbley
That sounds like a good plan. I am glad that you are willing and able to invest the time in finalizing the book.. On 11/24/2019 5:42 PM, Jean Weber wrote: Yo, team! You may recall my suggestion 2-3 weeks ago that we leave the proposed two new chapters out of the book we’re working on, so we

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Files for CG6203-ChartsAndGraphs.odt

2019-11-01 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Yes, good point. I will do so. On 11/1/2019 3:41 AM, kees...@libreoffice.org wrote: Hi Cathy Did you safe the files you used to make the charts for chapter 3? If so, can you put them into a zip-file and place then in the Archive folder? This will help translaters to translate the documents.

[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide, Chapter 3, Charts and Graphs

2019-10-13 Thread Cathy Crumbley
Hi All, I have finally placed Chapter 3, Charts and Graphs, in the Draft folder on NextCloud. (I don’t know why the file icon is blue. Does anyone know?) The chapter is substantially revised and significantly longer. I would like to request that whoever reviews the chapter make corrections