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PROBLEM SOLVED !! 73, W2CF
Richard T. Schweizer
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Ramsey, NJ 07446
Telephone: (201) 825-4318
From: wn3...@verizon.net
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 18:56:42 -0500
Blaming
Remember the days when you mailed in cards to the league and it took
3 months. to process?
I'll take 10 days over that anytime.
It used to take 6 years to get your cards back from Box 88. Now I
see even our Russian friends are on LOTW. And I had my PT0S 160 Qso
confirmed in days.
LOTW even at 20 days is a tremendous tool.
I'm not concerned about 20 days for a confirmation. My concern is
20 days (or more) even before the initial transaction is processed
and I get confirmation that the QSOs are safely in the database.
I'm confident they'll figure this out, it's
All of us on this reflector are painfully aware that LoTW has a
problem, Additionally we all have seen this discussion go on ad
nausium. All of us are concerned about the problem. None of this is new
NEWS. So far I have told you nothing new. The complaining goes on
on, and accomplishes
On 12/15/2012 Donald Greenbaum wrote:
I don't understand the angst over a backlog of processing data during
the end of the year rush. Unless the world really is going to end in
a week like the Mayans predicted.
73
Don
N1DG
Partly because those of us who have been watching have come
Might want to consider creating a filter for the thread? Maybe filter
out any messages with LoTW in the subject field ;)
73, Mike, K2CD
Mike(W5UC) Kathy (K5MWH) wrote:
All of us on this reflector are painfully aware that LoTW has a
problem, Additionally we all have seen this discussion
Every transaction-oriented software system has a performance bottleneck that
limits its throughput. Eliminating that bottleneck -- either by improving
the software or upgrading the hardware -- always reveals the next
bottleneck.
The ARRL has determined that LotW's throughput is limited by the
4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] LOTW cannot possibly catch up
SO, please let me ask; what do the complainers expect to accomplish
by continuing to kick this horse?
How about getting others involved in *doing something* about the
problem? Since the ARRL
Barry,
The reported backlog is simply the time between upload of the last
processed file and the reporting epoch. It is a backward looking
statistic and not predictive.
If you want predictive, look at the number of QSOs in the queue
- which continues to increase - and apply an value for
Go to the LOTW site and read carefully. There is a discussion that
tells, in part, that new hardware is on order, and is expected to arrive
in 6-8 weeks. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT!!! RELAX!!! Constantly getting
your shorts all in a wad is uncomfortable, and bad for your health. It
raises
Go to the LOTW site and read carefully. There is a discussion that
tells, in part, that new hardware is on order, and is expected to
arrive in 6-8 weeks. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT!!!
That is if you *believe* the claim that the hardware will fix it.
With a very large database, decreases in
On 12/14/2012 11:24 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
Go to the LOTW site and read carefully. There is a discussion that
tells, in part, that new hardware is on order, and is expected to
arrive in 6-8 weeks. THEY ARE WORKING ON IT!!!
That is if you *believe* the claim that the hardware will fix
No Ryan, the League is not a dictatorship.
To answer more generically, and not specifically to you (or just you):
However: If you want change, and are not happy with the current situation with
the Logbook server... kvetching about it on this reflector will not accomplish
anything. And I
That's correct, Ron. You complain about it to your division director,
who will speak on your behalf.
But there's nothing wrong with discussing it here, IMO. Maybe they DO
read things here... I work in web technology for a living, and you
know what? Sometimes I do go searching the web for things
OK, great idea, and then what? If we believe that the present IT dept
isn't being truthful with us, why should we expect that our 'insisting
will change anything?
Quite sometime ago I suggested to my director that LoTW be shut down for
as long as necessary to achieve a long term solution.
On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Jim Abercrombie 4...@prtcnet.com wrote:
I have a new computer after the old one crashed and I lost all my data that
wasn't backed up. Registered for LoTW again and was successful. Sent Don
Sumner at ARRL HQ an email commending Mike for making the LoTW a
Their server admins ran out of chewing gum and the bailing wire is still on
back-order.
- pjd
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From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan Jairam
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:39 AM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] LoTW down?
Looks
Well, Jim, I think it is great service by ARRL's computer system.
Also, may be the explanation for high and permanent unemployment. Sorry
abt my comment.
73 Lou KE1F
On 5/29/2012 1:28 PM, JIM Abercrombie wrote:
I submitted my LOTW credits on-line Saturday and we had Memorial day
That may be an error in the certificate... that is to say, the wrong entity was
put in when the certificate was applied for.
So while the error is showing in LotW, this may be more of a case of GIGO
73
On 02/29/12, Mark Horowitz wrote:
Did anyone work TI5/K2PLF ? When I received
When I received confirmation from LOTW , The entity was listed as
United States of America. The zone was # 7.
This probably means that K2PLF requested a certificate for the United
States or possibly signed the TI5/K2LPF logs with a US certificate
and the correct station location. I do not
On 12/21/2011 5:56 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
Oh yes Rag, you've made more than a few points. But let's stick to
the important one...
I am positive that the ST0R logs will be on Logbook of the World at
some point. I'm not going to spend time combing their web site to
find out when
22.12.2011 13:39
To: wn3...@verizon.net
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] -LOTW
On 12/21/2011 5:56 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
Oh yes Rag, you've made more than a few points. But let's stick to
the important one...
I am positive that the ST0R logs will be on Logbook of the World
guess their next move should be requesting free
LoTW confirmations at ARRL.
73's Boris E73Y
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Sent: čet 22.12.2011 13:39
To: wn3...@verizon.net
Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] -LOTW
On 12/21/2011 5:56 PM, Ron
I think a few general comments on use of Logbook of the World are in order.Of course, first and foremost, this is my opinion only, YMMV.And by no means is this a criticism of LotW. I am very much in favor of the entire concept. If I have any gripe at all, it would be more of a lament that more
Oh, heck Rag, that's easy.
Some people don't have computers in their shack. or even their home. May be
hard to believe, but it's true (I know quite a few right here in my town).
So Logbook of the World is not an option for them at all.
Some people are old fashioned. They just plain like
I have to comment on a couple of these:
On 12/22/11, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote:
Oh, heck Rag, that's easy.
Some people don't have computers in their shack. or even their home. May be
hard to believe, but it's true (I know quite a few right here in my town).
So Logbook
Oh yes Rag, you've made more than a few points. But let's stick to the
important one.
I am positive that the ST0R logs will be on Logbook of the World at some
point. I'm not going to spend time combing their web site to find out when
they plan to do that. The group has done several other
Happens frequently.. will be back (I get same message) 73, Gary K7ZD
On 11/24/2011 12:03 PM, d...@optonline.net wrote:
Anyone else getting a fatal error message from the Logbook of the
World server?
I keep getting the following response:
Fatal error: initializeLOTWDB: -709 - CONNECT:
I was logged in to the server earlier this morning without a problem.
But I've seen the same thing from time to time. Not usually a big deal.
Server may have hiccupped, there may be too many users logged in, there
could be an issue at the ISP.
However, considering today's a holiday, it may not
...@optonline.net ; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] LoTW Servers Down?
I was logged in to the server earlier this morning without a problem.
But I've seen the same thing from time to time. Not usually a big deal.
Server may have hiccupped, there may be too many users logged
of short term overload.
73, Bob W1YRC
-Original Message- From: Ron Notarius W3WN Sent: Thursday,
November 24, 2011 2:44 PM To: d...@optonline.net ; dx-chat@njdxa.orgSubject:
RE: [DX-CHAT] LoTW Servers Down?
I was logged in to the server earlier this morning without a problem
: Thursday, November 24, 2011 7:24 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] LoTW Servers Down?
Ditto here. I was logged in about 6AM, no problem.
Just logged in again a few minutes ago at 00:20 UTC with no trouble.
Let's hope it was just a case of short term overload.
73, Bob W1YRC
From the error message it looks like they may be having database issues.
I think I will just call it a night and upload tomorrow. Hopefully by
then it will be fixed.
73
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Ryan N2RJ via iPhone
On Nov 24, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.net wrote:
I was logged in to the
Working fine here.
73,
Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX
DXCC, VUCC, WAS Card Checker-Southern Alberta
VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team
(403) 251-0384
ve...@telus.net
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From: Ryan Jairam
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2011 8:25 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] LoTW Servers Down
It must be coming and going because I have not been been able to log on all day
long.
AE5B
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On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 2:25 PM, jcowe...@comcast.net wrote:
My thanks to the many who responded to my question of a site that lists LOTW
user's. HB9BZA seems to be pretty universal and it should satisfy my needs.
Thanks again and a Merry Xmas to all.
And the actual link is..
Thanks to all who responded - I now have the info I require - its just
an age thing!!!
73 to all
Tom
GM4FDM
Gerry Hohn wrote:
Tom,
Try: http://www.rickmurphy.net/lotwquery.htm
Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX
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(403) 251-0384
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Jim:
I am pretty sure that VE7CC does not maintain the list, and relys on the HB9BZA
list as the source. I think the VE7CC website mentions this down in the notes.
I wrote HB9BZA about not being on his list with my new call, even though my log
for that call has been in LOTW for quite a while.
I have been thinking (it happens...) and I am going to upload
the 9Q1EK and 9Q1TB logs to LoTW. I have there before the
logs for my own calls and also ZK1EQL and CU2/SM7EQL.
There is a reason (beside busted calls which often happens
due to the QRN in Kinshasa): I have worked almost all the DX
At 05:44 PM 06/03/2007, nick cominos wrote:
Anyone getting the Internal Server Error when uploading to the
site? I've been getting this all weekend.
Dunno about that, but I've been trying to e-mail someone with an
arrl.org (i.e. staff) address and it's bounced all day today (was
working FB
I upload to LoTW just this morning. Seems OK now also.
GL,
Garth, KW4MM
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From: nick cominos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 4:44 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] LoTW
Anyone getting the Internal Server Error when uploading to the site?
I'm not sure that LOTW would have any issues with storage, or hosting.
Last I checked, there were 128 million contacts in their database. Let's say
that each contact took up 2000 characters of storage. That works out to about
256 gigabytes of storage; Hard disks that hold that are about $90 at
Disk space is amazingly cheap. You can store a ton of text info in a very
affordable disk.
John K5MO
PS: Long live paper QSLs...
At 02:17 AM 4/28/2007, Lee Wical wrote:
I don't know how ARRL can afford LoTW and its present and furure storage.
It will turn out, money wise, to be an
On top of everything that has been said, there is no mention of the overhead
that any DXpedition faces if immediately uploading logs to LoTW and that is
busted calls. The upkeep to unsnarl this would be immense. I for one don't
want that hassle so I NEVER upload logs for at least a year if
You can apply for another certificate (using the TQSLCert program) for
additional calls, old or new.
Creating the actual request for the extra certificate is quick, simple, and
once the cert request is generated, it can be uploaded or emailed to the
server.
And, as I found out last weekend, the
I got my answer already...
Certificates are manually signed, so I won't get it back until sometime
tomorrow.
IE: The Human element strikes again!
Thanks to all who replied!
73, ron w3wn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Ron Notarius W3WN
--- Kenneth Sobel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It sure takes a long time for LOTW to process a qso file. I uploaded my .tq8
file with one qso for 4O6DX several hours ago, but I am still waiting for
the qso to appear in my LOTW account
Ken, it's a queue. Maybe a number of people did the same
Ken,
The QSO's from any .tq8 files I've uploaded have shown up right away. Try
logging off then back in , if they still are missing go to your account and
check your activity, the upload should show up.
Tom, KE1JF
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From: Kenneth Sobel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To:
How great would it be if I logged on to DXA, looking at my QSO's (greenies).
DXA asks if I want my QSO's uploaded to LOTW for (let's say) 1 dollar per QSO.
Enter your creditcard nr. etc.
Wim
Citeren Bernie McClenny, W3UR [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
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You forgot to mention it
Steve,
The server definitely appears to be down.
Larry W2LJ
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This is what i copied from the site The basic fee for a QSL record
issued for award credit will be $ 0.25 (USD 0.25). Quantity
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I would agree. LOTW is a complete pain the the backside and involves
jumping through a phethora of hurdles. All this for a hobby? What a
waste of effort. Frankly if I wish to do a DXCC update, it's easier
(and more pleasure) to meet a field checker such as G4BWP for a beer or
two in a nice
Hello dx-chat,
Saturday, January 22, 2005 rkenwood wrote to dx-chat@njdxa.org:
I don't see how you guys afford to upload your logs to LOTW it seems to
me just another way for ARRL to get money
Rick
In my case (and actually all other cases) it's a way to save MY money.
And I'm not
Rkenwood wrote:
I don't see how you guys afford to upload your logs to LOTW
it seems to me just another way for ARRL to get money
It costs nothing to upload logs to Logbook of the World.
If you use the confirmations generated to apply for one of the
DXCC awards, the confirmation
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Oh? It costs money to upload to Logbook? Gee, someone better tell the
League to send me a bill...
Sorry Rick, but there is NO COST for uploading your log. Costs only come
into play when you apply for an award (DXCC at the moment, more to follow
I'm sure). And as I recall, it is does NOT cost
FYI, there is a LoTW reflector on Yahoo!
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ARRL-LOTW/
73 - Jim AD1C
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I am at 99/1253, or right at 8%. A large percentage
of mine are from 160 meters where I'm trying to make WAS.
At 12:21 AM 4/19/2004 -0400, you wrote:
just
wondering how everyone else is doing with getting qsls on lotw.
yeah, i know it's early. yeah, i know they don't count yet.
is there any
I have 838 confirmed out of 14,872 QSOs in
LOTW. That works out to about 5.6%.
73,
Dave, WØVX
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results?
Did you guys get stats too on CW vs
SSB on your percents confirmed on LoTW.
I have only 3% on abt 6300 SSB qsos.
tnx
Al
W4ABW
Well... dBase III, III+, IV... Visual dBase 5 or later... to say nothing of
FoxBase, FoxPro, and even (ugh!) MS Access
But (you knew there was a catch) you have to do a little homework first.
You have to write a simple little routine to write out each record as ASCII
text with the proper ADIF
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