[Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread john
The K3 has not been manufactured in years so of course some issues will occur with older equipment. Elecraft offers excellent support for new and older equipment. The look reminds you of your Kenwood equipment and apparently you do not like your gear's appearance. Why do you own it? Because I

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Bill Frantz
Since Elecraft got its start in the kit world, many of the early customers were kit builders. As the reputation of the radios has grown, more hams that just want a top of the line radio that works have become customers. These people are much more likely to buy factory built, and not trust a

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Raymond Sills
- From: Clay Autery <k...@montac.com> To: elecraft <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Sent: Sat, Jul 29, 2017 3:19 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts Just because they OFFER bundles doesn't mean you can't order a base unit and a la carte. After all... they ain't blowing out I

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Barry Baines
Don: Your points are spot on. I can recall back in 2014 when I first started to think seriously about acquiring a K3, it took a significant amount of time to try to figure what options were “important” vs. “desirable” and understanding how options interfaced with each other. It wasn’t until

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
Nick, Notice the "-F" on the K3S/100 for all 3 bundles. That says Factory built. Whether similar discounts will be offered for a kit version of the same package remains to be seen. I get the feeling that Elecraft is selling more factory assembled units than kits. 73, Don W3FPR On

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Fred Jensen
I guess it is a change from the traditionalElecraft "roll your own from a long list of options" approach, and your point is is valid, at least partially. HoweverI suspect strongly that there are manufacturing/assembly/logistics/support benefits and savings to the company by offering

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
If you want to rate how good (or how bad) a product is, you have to have a random sampling of owners and equipment. If the sample is self-selected, your sample consists mostly of those having trouble, some who just like to help, and a few who don't own the product. Most Elecraft customers

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Nicklas Johnson
I have a question on this because it wasn't immediately obvious to me when I looked at the web site the other day. Are the bundles fully assembled units, or is it possible to get a bundle in kit form? I really enjoyed the assembly of my KX3, and I really like the idea of bundling common options

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Wayne Burdick
Correct. The packages are just a convenience based on past ordering history. (FYI, we have a detailed features/performance comparison chart of the K3S vs. IC7300. Email me directly if interested.) 73, Wayne N6KR > On Jul 29, 2017, at 12:18 PM, Clay Autery wrote: > > Just

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Clay Autery
Just because they OFFER bundles doesn't mean you can't order a base unit and a la carte. After all... they ain't blowing out IC-7300s here. 73, __ Clay Autery, KY5G On 7/29/2017 6:50 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote: > http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg > > I still question

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread EUGENE GABRY
Well stated Don, This was one of the deciding factors for me when I pulled the trigger on Elecraft two years ago. I saw the value in being able to add options along the way as/if, my operating style or conditions changed. Firmware upgrades and support were the other reason. I wanted a rig "I"

[Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread John AE5X
Is this where we segue into the quarterly thread about the upcoming K4 and KX4? :-) John AE5X http://ae5x.blogspot.com/ _ >I imagine that many persons wanting K3/K3s have one 1 Cup of This (Before Bed)

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
I purchased my K3S, my first Elecraft product, based on three factors: Performance, specified configuration as I wanted, and product support. 73 Bob, K4TAX K3S s/n 10163 On 7/29/2017 11:55 AM, Walter Underwood wrote: I agree. People might expect a simple answer to “How much does a K3S

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Walter Underwood
I agree. People might expect a simple answer to “How much does a K3S cost?”, but they get “It depends” then spend hours trying on the website and this list adding up lists of options. This is that simple answer. I have no doubt that it will increase sales, because it decreases the friction of

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Don Wilhelm
On the contrary, I think the decision to offer "standard configuration packages" is a result of customer questions resulting from confusion about "what options do I need" and much time devoted to pre-sale communication with prospective customers. Other manufacturers offer an "all or nothing"

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Neil Zampella
We used to call it a 'Short between the headsets!' :) Neil, KN3ILZ On 7/29/2017 11:07 AM, Kevin Stover, AC0H wrote: Exactly!! I'll bet it's more like 95% PEBCAR (Problem Exists Between Chair and Radio), Along with the "We Don't Need No Stinking Manuals" attitude exhibited by some "real"

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Clay Autery
You do realize that: 1) You will see a disproportionate number of "issues" related posts on a SUPPORT reflector versus the actual issue to total population ratio. Right? IAW... May LOOK like there are a lot of issues but your are looking at the place where everyone with issues posts...

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread WILLIE BABER
W4ZV <btipp...@alum.mit.edu> wrote: Subject: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Saturday, July 29, 2017, 5:50 AM http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into t

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Kevin Stover, AC0H
Exactly!! I'll bet it's more like 95% PEBCAR (Problem Exists Between Chair and Radio), Along with the "We Don't Need No Stinking Manuals" attitude exhibited by some "real" radio people. We also have the design engineers who like to come on and say how they would have done it differently or

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Charlie T, K3ICH
29, 2017 10:26 AM To: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts The email reflector is the first place to go if you have a problem. So of course reading it gives you the impression that there are a lot of problems. But I suspect it would

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Vic Rosenthal
The email reflector is the first place to go if you have a problem. So of course reading it gives you the impression that there are a lot of problems. But I suspect it would be the same with a similar reflector dedicated to ANY manufacturer's equipment. The look... well, that is up to you! Vic

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Thom
All I can say to Elecraft is if I had the money to buy a K3 with all the options, given all the issues people have with them on this list, I probably would not even consider buying one. I was not really all that impressed with the look of it when I saw it at Dayton this year. It reminded me

[Elecraft] K3S Package Discounts

2017-07-29 Thread Bill W4ZV
http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3.htm#K3SPkg I still question the wisdom of bundling the the preamp, USB, 630m capabilities, etc into the K3S. This went against Elecraft's original philosophy of keeping base price low and choosing only the options we really wanted. This resulted in inflating the