hi Simon,
On 14 Feb 2008 at 11:30, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
Taking things a step further - it would not be at all difficult to
allow other programs to send K3 commands to / from the K3 through
another program.
This program (server) controls the serial comms and supports an
unlimited
Actually I gave some thought to this project this morning, specifically
allowing many programs simultaneous and transparent access to a K3 where the
programs talk K3 CAT.
My conclusion is that it's easy, the hard part having been written already
by Phil N8VB, specifically his virtual serial
Software that interfaces to rigs over the single RS-232 port need to learn
to play with each other. Developers have to stop writing code assuming
there isn't a need for other software to also simultaneously interface with
the rig. Standards have to be developed and quickly adopted that will
I doubt that any of the popular contest logging programs (e.g. N1MM Logger,
Writelog) are going to work with Omni-Rig. Omni-Rig does not expose a
transparent serial port interface that would make all of a rig's CAT
commands accessible to multiple (unmodified) programs. Omni-Rig requires
using a
At 04:35 AM 2/15/2008, Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote:
Actually I gave some thought to this project this morning,
specifically allowing many programs simultaneous and transparent
access to a K3 where the programs talk K3 CAT.
My conclusion is that it's easy, the hard part having been written
If I can make good enough progress with my current SSTV / HamDRM work then
I'll put this together late March 2008. This is the only approach that will
work properly, initially it will be for CAT support only, that is it will
not be designed for DTR / RTS toggling etc. which we don't need with
Taking things a step further - it would not be at all difficult to allow
other programs to send K3 commands to / from the K3 through another program.
This program (server) controls the serial comms and supports an unlimited
number of clients. The clients speak to the radio using the radio's
Yes, Simon is describing what I had in mind - a software solution that can be
implemented in the near future. Lacking such an RS-232 server program,
we're left only able to run one CAT-capable program at a time. Unless your
contest logging program implements its own version of cw skimmer or
W4TV continued:
CI-V also allows for multiple controllers, though I
have yet to see any other application that appears
to properly implement its CSMA/CD protocol.
There is no carrier switching or collision detection in the
CI-V protocol. The data packets do not carry any checksum
or
, February 14, 2008 7:39 PM
To: 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
W4TV continued:
CI-V also allows for multiple controllers, though I
have yet to see any other application that appears
to properly implement its CSMA/CD protocol.
There is no carrier switching
servers for every new (and old)
radio to come along.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
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Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 7:02 PM
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
The way to do this is to allow one program to talk to the K3 and support
other programs via virtual serial ports. I do this with Ham Radio Deluxe,
other programs talk to HRD via DDE, serial comms and soon via TCP/IP.
HRD talks Kenwood via the virtual serial port.
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
...
That is not an application software matter - it is something the
radio manufacturers will need to fix in their CAT implementations.
There is not a single radio that is capable- in either hardware
or software - of reliably servicing two different radio control
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Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 4:36 PM
To: Joe Subich, W4TV; 'Barry N1EU'; 'Elecraft Reflector'
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
The way to do this is to allow one program to talk to the K3
and support
other programs via virtual serial ports. I do
W4TV suggested to N1EU:
I'd add one more development that I feel is necessary. Software
that interfaces to rigs over the single RS-232 port need to learn
to play with each other.
That is not an application software matter - it is something the
radio manufacturers will need to fix in their
Of VR2BrettGraham
Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2008 7:41 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Convergence
W4TV suggested to N1EU:
I'd add one more development that I feel is necessary. Software
that interfaces to rigs over the single RS-232 port need to learn
to play
I heartily agree with Bill. The K3 is uniquely positioned to ride this new
wave wherever it does or doesn't go.
I'd add one more development that I feel is necessary. Software that
interfaces to rigs over the single RS-232 port need to learn to play with
each other. Developers have to stop
I was typing fast from memory Bill so got the $$ amount wrong but you
included the computer as part of the total price I believe, I did
not. Did you estimate kit or factory built prices for the contest
configured K3? I think a kit version of a full contest K3 can be had
for just under $3k
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