Re: [Elecraft] Signing QRP

Least we leave out the most important suffix-- /E8172 - I own Elecraft radio serial number 08172 Now the thread is compliant as well... It is still about Elecraft things! On 07/27/2017 10:31 AM, Fred Jensen wrote: > Common non-compliant indicators are: > > /M - I'm a mobile. All the M's

Re: [Elecraft] Signing QRP

No, it is not illegal or non-compliant in the USand never has been. 47CFR97 permits *any* self-assigned indicator(s)beforeor after the call sign, or both, *except* an indicator that duplicates an FCC assigned indicator [AG, AA, AE, KT], or any indicator that duplicates an ITU-assigned prefix.

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

A variation of this concern Stateside is the matter of putting country abbreviations on callsigns within State QSO Parties for mobile and expeditionary/rover operations. I have done that for many years as an expeditionary station in the Virginia QSO Party, and it helps for stations to know you

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

On Thu 27 Jul j...@kk9a.com wrote: > I had no idea that signing /QRP was illegal in some countries. Different jurisdictions have different ideas about identification requirements, and licence wording is sometimes open to interpretation. For example: In the UK the licence says that operators

Re: [Elecraft] Signing QRP

Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL. You are NOT operating portable on the isle of QRP. Chas -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:30 AM To:

Re: [Elecraft] Signing QRP

On 7/27/2017 8:16 AM, Charlie T, K3ICH wrote: > Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL. That is not correct in areas regulated by the US FCC. The rules state in §97.119(c): One or more indicators may be included with the call sign. Each > indicator must be separated from the call sign

Re: [Elecraft] Signing QRP

-Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Charlie T, K3ICH Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 8:16 AM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing QRP Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL. You

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Don't forget, signing WX1XXX/QRP is ILLEGAL. You are NOT operating portable on the isle or QRP. Chas -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill via Elecraft Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2017 1:30 AM To:

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sday, July 26, 2017 8:25 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" I recall my first contact after getting my KX3. It was on SSB. I did not indicate my power level until well into the contact, and the other operator said "I cannot believe you are running only

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I told you this thread would go on forever... 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 07/26/2017 06:20 PM, Clay Autery wrote: Bwah! My favorite! Can we please let this thread die? __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

C > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:21 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" > > Bwahh

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ThenWHY are YOU pursuing it ??? 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Clay Autery Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 6:21 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

Yep, and that is what I do too. 73, Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Drew AF2Z Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:31 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

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tts. Like most things, perception an preconceived opinions are EVERYTHING! 73 Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 12:57 PM To: Nicklas Johnson Cc: Elecra

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

Since QRP means "reduce your power" I figure it's an invitation to crank my output down to 5 watts and reply. If I can hear him at 5 watts he'll probably hear me and we'll both be using the minimum power required to make the contact. 73, Drew AF2Z On 07/26/17 14:33, Ken G Kopp wrote: I

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Bwah! My favorite! Can we please let this thread die? __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/26/2017 7:49 PM, John AE5X wrote: >> I view it as a "I'm special ... Please take pitty on me - I -never- >respond. >> >> 73 >> >> K0PP >

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Like signing emails with list of clubs they belong to, awards and all the Elecraft equipment with serial numbers. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jul 26, 2017, at 3:56 PM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: > >> On 26 July 2017 at 15:40, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:

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BTW how do we know you're in Africa. Yes, you tweaked a button! Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Jul 26, 2017, at 2:59 PM, Dave Heil wrote: > > During my operations from Africa, I had a number of folks send duplicate QSLs > stating that we'd not marked their

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

It's not your job to verify there power setting. If he signs /QRP while running he's 1.5 KW amp, that's between him and his conscience. If you don't record the /QRP you don't have his call correct. When's the last time you asked for a copy of abcontacts license before sending a QSL card?

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

I recall my first contact after getting my KX3. It was on SSB. I did not indicate my power level until well into the contact, and the other operator said "I cannot believe you are running only 10 watts." So much for the /QRP signing, you can make contacts, and that is what counts. It all

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

<elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" Hello, I operate QRP 99% of the time. I never sign /QRP. It takes skill while operating QRP, 5W CW or SSB, to snag a QSO that is local in the U.S.A. or a DX station. 73 Ron Polityka WB3AAL K2 & K1 owner -

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But what will the QRO guys that calls /QRP do if this is disallowed? 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 07/26/2017 04:04 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: I know this OT string is getting long, but I looked this up in the current IARU “Ethics and Operating Procedures for the Radio

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I know this OT string is getting long, but I looked this up in the current IARU “Ethics and Operating Procedures for the Radio Amateur”, the Region 2 edition. Some nincompoop generated a PDF that doesn’t allow copying the text, but my Safari browser ignores that bit, so I can quote it here. I’m

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

I respectfully disagree. Why do you think people adding /QRP want to be treated different or think that they're special? I don't sense that at all. It's just to let people know they're using low power. No big deal! It doesn't bother me. Although I personally don't add anything after my

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

Mike, Just as we all should. Regulations are such. Who really cares the power; it's the contact. I love <100 mw when it works. I usually don't bother with the suffix unless it is meaningful and I can claim it once contact is made and is solid. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message-

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Work 'em, Log 'em, move on ... It's a hobby ... -- Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!" > On Jul 26, 2017, at 12:56 PM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: > >> On 26 July 2017 at 15:40, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >> >> >> Signing "/QRP" is just another

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] >> on behalf of Kevin der Kinderen [kkinde...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:42 AM >> To: Ken G Kopp >> Cc: Elecraft >> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" >> >> I vie

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On 26 July 2017 at 15:40, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > Signing "/QRP" is just another manifestation of entitlement. It is a > way of saying "I'm different and I demand special treatment." > > ​I think you are reading waay more into it than what is actually there.​

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et the q in the >>>> log. >>>> >>>> If I was really bent out of shape I would log them and then email them >>>> later and make any elmery suggestions after the fact, in a nice way. >>>> Calling them a lid would not fit that bill. >&g

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t out of shape I would log them and then email them >>>> later and make any elmery suggestions after the fact, in a nice way. >>>> Calling them a lid would not fit that bill. >>>> >>>> ~C./WM >>>> >&g

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] on behalf of Kevin der Kinderen [kkinde...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:42 AM To: Ken G Kopp Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" I view it as an invitation or a challenge. I always respond. 73, Kev K4VD On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Ken G Kopp <k

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hem a lid would not fit that bill. ~C./WM From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Kevin der Kinderen [kkinde...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:42 AM To: Ken G Kopp Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" I view it as

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

Hello, I operate QRP 99% of the time. I never sign /QRP. It takes skill while operating QRP, 5W CW or SSB, to snag a QSO that is local in the U.S.A. or a DX station. 73 Ron Polityka WB3AAL K2 & K1 owner -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

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My sentiments exactly. Thank you! __ Clay Autery, KY5G MONTAC Enterprises (318) 518-1389 On 7/26/2017 2:27 PM, Nicklas Johnson wrote: > I can't imagine any world in which I would get bent out of shape or > judgmental about someone signing /QRP. I'm not in this hobby to see

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fter the fact, in a nice way. >> Calling them a lid would not fit that bill. >> >> ~C./WM >> >> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] >> on behalf of Kevin der Kinderen [kkinde...@gmail.com] >&g

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them a lid would not fit that bill. > > ~C./WM > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] > on behalf of Kevin der Kinderen [kkinde...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:42 AM > To: Ken G Kopp >

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During my operations from Africa, I had a number of folks send duplicate QSLs stating that we'd not marked their QSLs with /QRP. My view was that I couldn't certify that they were QRP as I wasn't in their shack. Only they could do that. I didn't, however, object to any signing /QRP although

Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP"

From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on behalf of Kevin der Kinderen [kkinde...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2017 11:42 AM To: Ken G Kopp Cc: Elecraft Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Signing "/QRP" I view it as an invitation or a ch

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I view it as an invitation or a challenge. I always respond. 73, Kev K4VD On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: > I view it as a "I'm special ... Please take pitty on me - I -never- > respond. > > 73 > > K0PP >

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

, 2007 8:47 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP Well, there's the huge difference between us Mike. I call W3XYX W3XYZ W3XYZ DE AC7AC AC7AC AC7AC/QRP ;-) Same for CQ. My thinking is that if hearing the /QRP is going to confuse anyone, I want them to get the call right first. As for a QRP

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

Well, I must have missed the memo. I thought this was the Elecraft list. But for the past couple weeks, it appears to be a general discussion list. I though the various and sundry QRP-L lists were more for that. Of course, I note a lot of cross-posting, so I guess folks like to see their words of

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

Yes. And, this is the FISTS 10th anniversary this year. To celebrate FISTS is offering the 20/20 award. Too bad there don't seem to be many (active) FISTS west of the Rockies. In these times of poor condx, I feel lucky to have finally amassed 100 points while running QRP (all I've got)...

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Bird-watchers list? When's LAITF? Scott N1AIA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 23:02:21 -0400 Stephen W. Kercel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As for legality, for FCC licensed stations, signing /QRP is perfectly legal. FCC Regs 97.119(c) allows for self-assigned indicators. There is an interesting gotcha to the rule. The last sentence of the

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

Wouldn't the suffix have to be include a number (i.e. /M0 or /R3) to be confused with a prefix? Leigh/WA5ZNU On Tue, 12 Jun 2007 5:35 am, David Y. wrote: /particularly /M, commonly used by mobile stations, a prefix assigned to the UK, and /R commonly used by repeaters, a prefix assigned to

RE: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

I suspect John, GM4SLV, and Steve AA4AK are quite right about many responses to those signing /QRP. I always perk up when I hear /QRP because it promises to be an unusually interesting contact. When I call CQ on or near a QRP calling frequency such as 7040 or 14060 I use 5 watts or less and sign

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

Ron all, Ron D'Eau Claire wrote: ...I hope the intrepid operators who love to promote their operating interests will never stop signing /QRP... I share some of the feelings of both camps regarding signing or not signing using /QRP. As a result, I use a combination. I generally call by

RE: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

Well, there's the huge difference between us Mike. I call W3XYX W3XYZ W3XYZ DE AC7AC AC7AC AC7AC/QRP ;-) Same for CQ. My thinking is that if hearing the /QRP is going to confuse anyone, I want them to get the call right first. As for a QRP signal being 'tiny', it all depends upon conditions.

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is running 100 watts! 72/72, Sandy Mostly W5TVW/QRP - Original Message - From: Ron D'Eau Claire [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP Well, there's the huge difference between us Mike. I call W3XYX W3XYZ

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] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:47 PM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP Well, there's the huge difference between us Mike. I call W3XYX W3XYZ W3XYZ DE AC7AC AC7AC AC7AC/QRP ;-) Same for CQ. My thinking is that if hearing the /QRP is going to confuse anyone, I want them

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

It is much better to sign QRP after they give you a decent RST, it really annoys them!! It sort of makes the 229 no cpy you get after that a little shallow in meaning. 73 -- __ ___/ Chuck \_ | | | www.aa8vs.org/aa8vs | The pessimist

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Signing /QRP can be viewed as please take pitty on me thing. Hi Ken, Yes it can, but... I like to hear a guy sign qrp, especially these days, with poor propagation because... if I hear a fairly weak signal, and I'm thinking, he's probably running a hundred watts, I won't bother calling,

Re: [Elecraft] Signing /QRP

Ken and list: Generally speaking, if I hear a station calling CQ with /QRP, I'll answer with /QRP. Particularly on domestic QSOs, I'm more interested in working other QRP stations than high powered stations. Thus, when I hear /QRP I do not hear it as please take pity, but rather as here's an