Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-17 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Hi, Le jeu. 17 mars 2022 à 18:13, Joseph Spanier a écrit : > Hey Guys, > I am close to Tormach and actively working with them on their ROS driven > robot. Great! They also use machinekit-hal for it, right? If someone can concisely frame the situation and detail what you > need I'd be happy

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-17 Thread Joseph Spanier
Hey Guys, I am close to Tormach and actively working with them on their ROS driven robot. If someone can concisely frame the situation and detail what you need I'd be happy to make an intro with Rogge. I tried to find a clear thread of this discussion on sourceforge that I could just forward to

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le ven. 4 mars 2022 à 02:13, Rod Webster a écrit : > > Anyone close to ROS? > Tormach. Anyone close to Tormach? > Maybe open a friendly issue/discussion there https://github.com/tormach/hal_ros_control ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 3 March 2022 19:55:07 EST Rod Webster wrote: > >Some of us remember when the EMC corporation sent their lawyers > >calling because we had a similar name to them. No matter that we had > >it first. > I'm one of them. And I was pissed at the audacity of a bookkeeper who was a johnny

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Stefan Asmus
Below is Daniel Rogge ( Tormach CEO) email. He seems happy to correspond via email to people who have questions about their products. I have spoken to him about the software for their new ZA6 robot and he was happy to answer questions. dro...@tormach.com From:

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Rod Webster
> Anyone close to ROS? Tormach. Anyone close to Tormach? Rod Webster *1300 896 832* +61 435 765 611 Vehicle Modifications Network www.vehiclemods.net.au On Fri, 4 Mar 2022 at 11:07, Steffen Möller wrote: > Rod, > > I wish some of our LinuxCNC Gurus would know some of the ROS Gurus and >

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Steffen Möller
Rod, I wish some of our LinuxCNC Gurus would know some of the ROS Gurus and jointly meditate over this. We should possibly not discuss this too much as a sole CNC/robotics problem. This tech is useful whenever you need to synchronize something between multiple machines/devices. I truly don't

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Rod Webster
>Some of us remember when the EMC corporation sent their lawyers >calling because we had a similar name to them. No matter that we had >it first. Before my time. There are plenty of examples where the user of an untrademarked name has had to cease and desist after another organization trademarks

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 16:17, gene heskett wrote: > I don't see the future risk as zero... Some of us remember when the EMC corporation sent their lawyers calling because we had a similar name to them. No matter that we had it first. Beckhof have been very clear that they own the word EtherCAT,

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le jeu. 3 mars 2022 à 16:14, Steffen Möller a écrit : > Dear all, > > I had a phone conversation with the EtherCAT Technology Group's > president, Martin Rostan, this morning. Thanks a lot for taking care of this  ETG's statutes (Satzung in German) do not allow non-legal entities to >

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Rod Webster
Steffen You have done some amazing work and we now know what we are dealing with rather than just guessing as we've done before. I think its not about the last 20 years but about the next 20. I think we will see an increasing number of ethercat capable devices in use as more vendors adopt the

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Steffen Möller
Hi Marc, yes, something like http://wiki.ros.org/soem ? I have not followed that up. Best, Steffen On 03.03.22 16:54, Marc Wang wrote: Hi Steffen, By ROS, are you referring to Robotic Operating System (https://www.ros.org/)? Regards, Marc From: andy pugh

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread gene heskett
On Thursday, 3 March 2022 10:49:53 EST andy pugh wrote: > On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 15:14, Steffen Möller wrote: > > But he took the freedom to point out that there are others who > > are already shipping EtherCAT drivers and have not experienced any > > legal problem at all - he just cannot make

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Marc Wang
Hi Steffen, By ROS, are you referring to Robotic Operating System (https://www.ros.org/)? Regards, Marc From: andy pugh Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:49 AM To: EMC developers Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread andy pugh
On Thu, 3 Mar 2022 at 15:14, Steffen Möller wrote: > But he took the freedom to point out that there are others who > are already shipping EtherCAT drivers and have not experienced any legal > problem at all - he just cannot make any promises of any sorts about the > future There is quite a gap

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-03 Thread Steffen Möller
Dear all, I had a phone conversation with the EtherCAT Technology Group's president, Martin Rostan, this morning. To get an impression, you find him in this PodCast https://www.sps-magazin.de/podcasts/ (German). Mr Rostan sends his regards, expresses that he has a heart for all the mills and

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-02 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-02 kl. 20:56, skrev Nicklas SB Karlsson: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 22:06, skrev Jérémie Tarot: Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 21:40, Bari a écrit : https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE I don't understand how the last sentences could be compatible with GPL? lhH

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-02 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 22:06, skrev Jérémie Tarot: Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 21:40, Bari a écrit : https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE I don't understand how the last sentences could be compatible with GPL? lhH EtherCat https://etherlab.org/en/ethercat/ I think is

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-02 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 23:35, skrev Rod Webster: The reason why I put this on the agenda is that I observed that the debian project uncovered a number of licenses which we had to include in our copyright statement that deviated from the standard GPL licence. I was quite surprised at this. I would

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.03.22 23:35, Rod Webster wrote: The reason why I put this on the agenda is that I observed that the debian project uncovered a number of licenses which we had to include in our copyright statement that deviated from the standard GPL licence. I was quite surprised at this. I would defer

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, March 1, 2022 4:20:42 PM EST Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:39, skrev Bari: > > On 3/1/22 14:25, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > >> Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: > >>> On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: > Already have a simple implementation of an

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Rod Webster
The reason why I put this on the agenda is that I observed that the debian project uncovered a number of licenses which we had to include in our copyright statement that deviated from the standard GPL licence. I was quite surprised at this. I would defer to Steffen on license issues and

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 22:22, Nicklas SB Karlsson a écrit : > > > > > https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE > > > Line below seems like a problem. > Exactly ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:39, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 14:25, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Le mar. 1 mars 2022 à 21:40, Bari a écrit : > > > https://github.com/OpenEtherCATsociety/SOEM/blob/master/LICENSE I don't understand how the last sentences could be compatible with GPL? > ___ Emc-developers mailing list

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Bari
On 3/1/22 14:25, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license problem and have kept it for myself.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 21:17, skrev Bari: On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license problem and have kept it for myself. If you developed this yourself without being

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Bari
On 3/1/22 13:20, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Already have a simple implementation of an Ethercat driver with hardcoded configuration but read something about the license problem and have kept it for myself. If you developed this yourself without being under an NDA or some contract with

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Steffen Möller
On 01.03.22 20:15, Nicklas SB Karlsson wrote: Den 2022-03-01 kl. 13:27, skrev Rod Webster: So I shared Steffen's post on the Ethercat section of the forum calling for technical volunteers. Maybe some of them are in this group already.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-02-28 kl. 15:47, skrev Steffen Möller: Hello again, On 28.02.22 14:28, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2022 at 13:22, Steffen Möller wrote: Personally I know nothing about EtherCAT. I have always been a little afraid of the licensing complexities mentioned here:

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
Den 2022-03-01 kl. 13:27, skrev Rod Webster: So I shared Steffen's post on the Ethercat section of the forum calling for technical volunteers. Maybe some of them are in this group already.

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-03-01 Thread Rod Webster
So I shared Steffen's post on the Ethercat section of the forum calling for technical volunteers. Maybe some of them are in this group already. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/ethercat/45239-lets-get-ethercat-into-the-linuxcnc-distribution-need-technical-people-to-help Lets hope the right people come

Re: [Emc-developers] EtherCAT - would not be a prob with free membership in EtherCAT Technology Group Re: LinuxCNC is in Debian!

2022-02-28 Thread Rod Webster
One could argue we are already in breach of their license by mentioning Ethercat in our Debian package :) There is no point suggesting something without being willing to contribute. Therefore I am happy to be an admin contact using the email ether...@vmn.com.au There are others who are more