On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 20:23, Rod Webster wrote:
>
> @Andy, For users with modern hardware, there are many more gotchas due to
> lack of driver support in our current buster ISO.
I am not talking about the Buster ISO, but the idea of our own Bullseye /
Bookwork ISO too.
Note that the
@hans, I'm glad you found the process smooth.
If you found missing dependencies for Gmoccapy, the correct approach would
be to log an issue and list the missing dependencies that should be added
to the package. That's your fault as a gmocappy maintainer if it remains a
gotcha.
Yes it is annoying
Am 04.12.22 um 20:25 schrieb andy pugh:
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 11:45, Rod Webster wrote:
In recent days, Linuxcnc does not seem to like the Wayland based graphical
...
Do not add a root password so the default user can use sudo.
...
You might like to disable autologon and the screensaver.
On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 at 11:45, Rod Webster wrote:
> In recent days, Linuxcnc does not seem to like the Wayland based graphical
> ...
> Do not add a root password so the default user can use sudo.
> ...
You might like to disable autologon and the screensaver.
That's three "gotchas" that can
Am 04.12.22 um 12:41 schrieb Rod Webster:
Hans,
This is what I mean. People here have never bothered to get familiar with
the greatest achievement in the dev area in 20 years! Debian packaging!
Debian Bookworm (aka testing) has been installable from an ISO on the
Debian web site ever since
Le dim. 4 déc. 2022 à 12:45, Rod Webster a écrit :
> Hans,
> This is what I mean. People here have never bothered to get familiar with
> the greatest achievement in the dev area in 20 years! Debian packaging!
>
We're getting there thanks to Petter's and Steffen's efforts!
Google run their
Hans,
This is what I mean. People here have never bothered to get familiar with
the greatest achievement in the dev area in 20 years! Debian packaging!
Debian Bookworm (aka testing) has been installable from an ISO on the
Debian web site ever since Bullseye was released.
Google run their whole
Am 30.11.22 um 19:58 schrieb Rod Webster:
It lowers the bar for everyone. Installing a real time kernel and all the
dependencies might keep some people from just trying it.
And it allows running it as a live system without even needing to install
something.
@hans, have you ever tried
57 Uhr
> > Von: "Kurt Jacobson"
> > An: "EMC developers"
> > Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new
> German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
> >
> > Good evening!
> >
> > I have
and while
we will miss the upcoming Debian freeze for them, we should manage for the next.
Best,
Steffen
> Gesendet: Freitag, 02. Dezember 2022 um 02:57 Uhr
> Von: "Kurt Jacobson"
> An: "EMC developers"
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important -
Le ven. 2 déc. 2022 à 03:01, Kurt Jacobson a
écrit :
>
> I have been busy starting a family so have been completely out of the
> LinuxCNC loop lately,glad to see most of the old familiar names still
>
active, as well as the new ones!
>
"Starting a family" ? Good one ! This never, ever ends LOL
Good evening!
I have been busy starting a family so have been completely out of the
LinuxCNC loop lately,
glad to see most of the old familiar names still active, as well as the new
ones!
I have not thoroughly read this thread, but I have read enough to be
discouraged
by some of the things said.
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 22:47, Small Shop Concepts a
écrit :
>
> The collaboration there is fantastic and the general positive can-do
> attitude helped to push things along. If something is dreamt up it is
> tried and tested and if it works it is implemented. It has been by far the
> most fast
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 20:36, Small Shop Concepts a
écrit :
>
> I was under the impression we were collaborators not competitors?
>
I really hope we are mate, I really hope...
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Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 19:42, Chris Morley a
écrit :
> Because qtpyvcp and qtvcp do the same job using mostly the same tools
> (python and qt)
>
> If qtpyvcp wanted to be under the linuxcnc unberella they could have
> continued working in qtvcp instead of making a new independent, project.
"How are integrators (ie, GUI / Panel designers) meant to pick between QtVCP
and the very similarly named QtPyVCP? They do the same thing,
fundamentally."
Does that even matter at the user level for gui selection?
I am not privy to why the two were divided and frankly could care less as a
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 17:19, andy pugh a écrit :
> On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:06, Jérémie Tarot wrote:
>
> Absolutely ! I already told JT and said here that MesaCT repository surely
> > deserves to join the LinuxCNC organization
> >
>
> Then new users are _really_ going to need a flowchart to
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 01. Dezember 2022 um 21:07 Uhr
> Von: "andy pugh"
> An: "EMC developers"
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>
> On Wed, 30 No
On Wed, 30 Nov 2022 at 23:31, Steffen Moeller
wrote:
I consider all our users to be somehow part of our project and am
> agnostic about the interface they are using. From how I see it, if
> PyQtVCP does something better than QtVCP then QtVCP gets some
> encouragement and ideas on how to improve
GUIs, they are infrastructure for creating GUIS.
> I would think that most users will use neither, they will just use the GUIs
> that have been developed.
>
> >
> > Best,
> > Steffen
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> -------- Original message
sage
> From: Jérémie Tarot
> Date: 2022-12-01 8:06 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
> To: EMC developers
> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>
> Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 16:47, Sm
-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 16:47, Small Shop Concepts a
écrit :
> I think it would be great if QtPyVCP were included in Linuxcnc. I'm not
> sure how you mean it would undermine qtvcp?
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:16, Chad Woitas
wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like a package manager is what ya'll are looking for.
> Download Base Linuxcnc, and add in the UI's and interfaces afterwards.
Splitting the LinuxCNC package into sub-packages is probably more work than
anyone has the appetite
On Thu, 1 Dec 2022 at 16:06, Jérémie Tarot wrote:
Absolutely ! I already told JT and said here that MesaCT repository surely
> deserves to join the LinuxCNC organization
>
Then new users are _really_ going to need a flowchart to get them going.
Are you using a Mesa card?
Which one?
In that
ct I started so I am slightly biased.
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Steffen Möller
> Date: 2022-11-29 8:53 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
> To: LinuxCNC Dev Mailing List
> Subject: [Emc-developers] Eye candy
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 16:47, Small Shop Concepts a
écrit :
> I think it would be great if QtPyVCP were included in Linuxcnc. I'm not
> sure how you mean it would undermine qtvcp? Isn't Linuxcnc stronger with
> more options for users?
Further, IIRC @cmorley, you're our UI API uniformization
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 11:06, Phill a écrit :
>
> Actually on second thought some users would use QtVCP, for example
> embedding CamView into an Axis or Gmoccapy tab.
Then, they're not just users anymore !
A CNC _user_ starts the machine, makes chips, stops the machine...
sometimes have a cold
laxy
>
>
>
> Original message
> From: Steffen Möller
> Date: 2022-11-29 8:53 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
> To: LinuxCNC Dev Mailing List
> Subject: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controlle
On 12/1/22 04:25, Jérémie Tarot wrote:
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 01:32, Phill Carter a
écrit :
Neither QtVCP nor QtPyVCP are GUIs, they are infrastructure for creating
GUIS.
I would think that most users will use neither, they will just use the
GUIs that have been developed.
Absolutely !
This
Original message From: Jérémie Tarot
Date: 1/12/22 8:28 pm (GMT+10:00) To: EMC developers
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy
is important - Titan got a new German friend - want that reaction for a
LinuxCNC controller Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 01:32, Phill Carter
aécrit
Le mar. 29 nov. 2022 à 23:27, Feral Engineer a
écrit :
> There's that one interface that's a blatant rip off of a siemens control
> that would be a great addition
>
... and, according to his last messages, he's at least planning to bring
much more than just the UI !
I really hope this guy
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 01:32, Phill Carter a
écrit :
> Neither QtVCP nor QtPyVCP are GUIs, they are infrastructure for creating
> GUIS.
> I would think that most users will use neither, they will just use the
> GUIs that have been developed.
Absolutely !
This is why I think that all *VCP and UI
Le jeu. 1 déc. 2022 à 00:31, Steffen Moeller a
écrit :
>
> Am 30.11.2022 um 19:12 schrieb Chris Morley:
> > The difference is free cad doesn't compete with anything in linuxcnc.
> Qtpycp does. If they wanted to be included in linuxcnc, then they would
> have been part of the project. They made a
hat most users will use neither, they will just use the GUIs
that have been developed.
>
> Best,
> Steffen
>
>>
>>
>> Original message
>> From: Steffen Moeller
>> Date: 2022-11-30 9:35 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
>> To: emc-developer
. Both GUIs
should be as easy to install and use as possible.
Best,
Steffen
Original message
From: Steffen Moeller
Date: 2022-11-30 9:35 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
Am 30.11.2022 um 19:58 schrieb Rod Webster:
It lowers the bar for everyone. Installing a real time kernel and all the
dependencies might keep some people from just trying it.
And it allows running it as a live system without even needing to install
something.
@hans, have you ever tried
:00)
> To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new
> German friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>
>
> Am 29.11.2022 um 19:06 schrieb Chris Morley:
> > Are you discussing an officia
.
Chris
Sent from my Galaxy
Original message
From: Steffen Moeller
Date: 2022-11-30 9:35 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
Hello,
No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes the
Sinumeric control
https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354
with some excitement. I actually find
Am Di., 29. Nov. 2022 um 23:15 Uhr schrieb andy pugh :
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 20:59, Rod Webster wrote:
>
> Why would we bother hosting our own ISO on slow servers and put our limited
> > resources into building and maintaining said ISO's when the new paradigm
> is
> > already with us right
>
> If you want eye candy, the Datron UI is rather well done:
> https://youtu.be/ZgqCY3gUHcM
That probing feature looks really nice. I wonder if they are using image
recognition to snap the lines correctly so If I draw the lines to probe way
out of the real part corner the system could identify
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. November 2022 um 22:15 Uhr
> Von: "Phill Carter"
> An: "linuxcnc-developers"
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>
>
>
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 29. November 2022 um 20:19 Uhr
> Von: "andy pugh"
> An: "EMC developers"
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>
> On Tue, 29
uot;Feral Engineer"
> An: "EMC developers"
> Betreff: Re: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
> friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
>
> There's that one interface that's a blatant rip off of a siemens control
> that w
There's that one interface that's a blatant rip off of a siemens control
that would be a great addition
Maybe I'll just do a generic video and whoever wants to watch it, will
Phil T.
The Feral Engineer
Check out my LinuxCNC tutorials, machine builds and other antics at
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 20:59, Rod Webster wrote:
Why would we bother hosting our own ISO on slow servers and put our limited
> resources into building and maintaining said ISO's when the new paradigm is
> already with us right now?
>
It's to lower the bar for Windows users, trying to make it as
I would watch your demonstration of the Siemens control and I'm
anxiously awaiting your implementation of a similar interface on
linuxcnc. As long as the demonstration doesn't involve any screaming.
Eric Keller
Boalsburg, Pennsylvania
On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 1:24 PM Feral Engineer
wrote:
>
>
> On 30 Nov 2022, at 7:54 am, Rod Webster wrote:
>
> @steffen, there is a script to install qtpyvcp dependencies in:
>
> /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/qtvcp/designer/install_script
>
> Its documented in QTplasmac, not sure if its mentioned elsewhere
>
Hey guys, in case you have not noticed, there is a new paradigm for
software distribution. It's called Debian Packaging!
Sometimes I think I must be the only idiot out there installing linuxcnc
from bookworm fairly regularly with:
sudo apt-get install linuxcnc-uspace
I for one will never bother
On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 16:53, Steffen Möller wrote:
> Hello,
>
> No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes
> the Sinumeric control
> https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354
> with some excitement. I actually find LinuxCNC even nicer, especially for
> what I saw from
That dude is a goofball and that version of Sinumerik looks like 20 pounds
of crap in a 10 pound bag. They put away too much on the screen and it
blocks most of the hmi. I thought we used up a lot of real estate on our
screens (DMG Mori), these Heller machines have got us beat...
Seriously...
message
From: Steffen Möller
Date: 2022-11-29 8:53 a.m. (GMT-08:00)
To: LinuxCNC Dev Mailing List
Subject: [Emc-developers] Eye candy is important - Titan got a new German
friend - want that reaction for a LinuxCNC controller
Hello,
No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller
Hello,
No need to watch this, really. Titan has a nice Heller machine and passes the
Sinumeric control
https://youtu.be/zToKZtqQMIo?t=354
with some excitement. I actually find LinuxCNC even nicer, especially for what
I saw from https://www.qtpyvcp.com/ .
When we yesterday had this OpenMike
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