Re: [Emc-users] 2.5 run-in-place or not

2012-01-23 Thread John Prentice
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 2.5 run-in-place or not well, since people keep tripping over this glade install path issue I looked into it and it seems it can be fixed: === Glade 3.3.3 === ... - Defined environment variables GLADE_MODULE_PATH GLADE_CATALOG_PATH,

Re: [Emc-users] Help with a GladeVCP startup error message

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 22.01.2012 um 19:56 schrieb John Prentice: I suggest you remove the existing emc2 packages and configure for normal install (not RIP) glade should work then, and likely the import issue goes away - having two different versions of emc installed in different places on the same

Re: [Emc-users] 2.5 run-in-place or not

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
John, I just noticed that the glade catalog thing has already been resolved so there is no need to './configure --prefix=/usr', RIP will be the better choice because it doesnt pollute /usr with files glade usually shows a wash of startup messages, which are harmless -m Am 23.01.2012 um 09:17

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 January 2012 06:03, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: A prettyprinter might use whitespace to improve output readability, that's all Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? -- atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong.

Re: [Emc-users] installing 2.5 in simulation mode, not working

2012-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 January 2012 06:19, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: I am trying to install 2.5 under 10.04 running under Parallels on my Mac.  I followed the instructions (related to installing -sim) here:   http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Installing_EMC2#Building_emc2_simulator ... why

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/23/2012 02:05 AM, gene heskett wrote: mistake number two. Why the heck are you torturing Linux with protocols mainly used for windows? Because historically, NFS has never worked, and its docs suck. Setup is the key to NFS. Agreed, the docs aren't all that great.

Re: [Emc-users] Help with a GladeVCP startup error message

2012-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 January 2012 02:14, Steve Blackmore st...@pilotltd.net wrote: Your not on your own John!!  EMC, or should I now say LCNC, is written and annotated by Linux gurus That is not entirely true, I don't even know how to rename a file in Linux, but I have written some of the code, and

Re: [Emc-users] Help with a GladeVCP startup error message

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/22/2012 09:14 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: Your not on your own John!! EMC, or should I now say LCNC, is written and annotated by Linux gurus who unfortunately think everyone is at the same guru level as them! Beware - of these gotcha's No jog in feedhold! - So don't break an insert or

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 23.01.2012 um 03:16 schrieb Scott Hasse: I understand where you are coming from. Word order is not important as long as you understand how things will be interpreted, and that understanding matches what actually happens. I think that point alone would make a pretty printer useful.

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
Am 23.01.2012 um 11:17 schrieb andy pugh: On 23 January 2012 06:03, Michael Haberler mai...@mah.priv.at wrote: A prettyprinter might use whitespace to improve output readability, that's all Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? me

Re: [Emc-users] 2.5 run-in-place or not

2012-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 January 2012 01:46, Tom Easterday tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: We currently have to open a terminal, cd to ~/emc2/emc2-dev/ and do a . scripts/environment and then run emc. If you look at the icon properties you can see the command line that they run, and edit that to point at the run-in-place

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread John Thornton
me On 1/23/2012 4:17 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 23 January 2012 06:03, Michael Haberlermai...@mah.priv.at wrote: A prettyprinter might use whitespace to improve output readability, that's all Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code?

[Emc-users] gladevcp startup, import errors due to 'rebranding'

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
ok, for those who have gladevcp Python handlers which import emc and currently fail due to the rebranding stampede in progress - the fastest fix is: search for import emc replace by: try: import emc except ImportError: import linuxcnc as emc this works for pre-rebrand and current

[Emc-users] touchy interface

2012-01-23 Thread Farzin Kamangar
Hello, dear EMC users, Regarding the touchy interface, I have a problem on one computer and that is in the MDI page with G shown as the command, when I enter 0 or 1 for G0 or G1 and with pushing the Next button I see the lines X Y Z show up for getting their coordinates just the first time

Re: [Emc-users] 2.5 run-in-place or not

2012-01-23 Thread John Thornton
I have both ways with a script running a RIP and I have changed the installed version from the live cd to get the buildbot deb. I prefer the deb way as I will get the automatic update prompt. John On 1/22/2012 7:46 PM, Tom Easterday wrote: We have been using the 2.5 branch and have made quite

[Emc-users] Beagleboard

2012-01-23 Thread andy pugh
I have a friend involved in the Yocto embedded Linux project, he said the following: I'm afraid I don't know the status of rt-preempt on beagle. Its not something that is on the official test matrix so it might work or it might not :/. I did ask around but nobody is giving me indications one way

[Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Michael Haberler
Dear EMC Board, you recently announced the decision to rename EMC2, see below. I do not take issue with the renaming decision per se - legal conditions are what they are, and while I don't hear the 'buzz' just yet, I believe a unique term will help, for instance better search engine results

Re: [Emc-users] gladevcp startup, import errors due to 'rebranding'

2012-01-23 Thread Spiderdab
Il giorno lun, 23/01/2012 alle 12.54 +0100, Michael Haberler ha scritto: ok, for those who have gladevcp Python handlers which import emc and currently fail due to the rebranding stampede in progress - the fastest fix is: search for import emc replace by: try: import emc

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 08:49:08 AM Rafael Skodlar did opine: There is security, and there is Pain in the Ass obnoxiousness, this is the latter. I'd be much appreciative of an idiot-proof (and I'm apparently the idiot) Don't do that too often as we might assume something :-)

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 09:33:21 AM Mark Wendt did opine: [...] That's the rub, this box is pclos, first uid,gid is 500. Nothing says that UID/GID has to be used. Change the UIDs/GIDs so they match. Since pclos is lower than the Ubuntu UID/GID schema, it won't hurt anything on the

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread Martin Dobbins
Yes Martin Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong. -- Try before

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-23 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/23/2012 09:40 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, January 23, 2012 09:33:21 AM Mark Wendt did opine: [...] That's the rub, this box is pclos, first uid,gid is 500. Nothing says that UID/GID has to be used. Change the UIDs/GIDs so they match. Since pclos is lower than the

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread Erik Friesen
Yes, C style. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 9:47 AM, Martin Dobbins tu...@hotmail.com wrote: Yes Martin Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? atp The idea that there is no such thing as objective truth is, quite simply, wrong.

Re: [Emc-users] touchy interface

2012-01-23 Thread Chris Radek
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 03:32:02PM +0330, Farzin Kamangar wrote: Hello, dear EMC users, Regarding the touchy interface, I have a problem on one computer and that is in the MDI page with G shown as the command, when I enter 0 or 1 for G0 or G1 and with pushing the Next button I see the

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 116

2012-01-23 Thread Robert von Knobloch
On 23/01/12 15:48, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? Yes, are there people who don't ?? Bob -- Try before you buy = See our experts in action! The

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 116

2012-01-23 Thread Dave
On 1/23/2012 10:20 AM, Robert von Knobloch wrote: On 23/01/12 15:48, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? Yes, are there people who don't ?? Bob Ha ha Dave

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine is on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys it. I have never been on the base before so I don't know their rules. I will try to find out. Stuart On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Karl Schmidt

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:58 -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine is on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys it. I have never been on the base before so I don't know their rules. I will try to find

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-23 Thread Dave
I've bought from Government Liquidation before. They usually do exactly what they specify. If they says users loads .. it is your job to get the machine moved from where it is to your trailer etc. Don't expect any help at all. (You might want to ask how close you can get your truck/trailer

Re: [Emc-users] 2.5 run-in-place or not

2012-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
Tom Easterday wrote: We have been using the 2.5 branch and have made quite a few changes and have things working nicely. We want to continue forward with 2.5 and abandon 2.4.X. Should I just leave things alone, leave it in run-in-place mode, or should I rebuild it without that (or is

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: On Sunday, January 22, 2012 09:01:21 PM Jon Elson did opine: I just tried these two additions to my .ini file, then restarted emc while the machine was within about a thou of zero on all axises. But on the restart, the home flag wasn't set where it was restarted,

Re: [Emc-users] Beagleboard

2012-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: I have a friend involved in the Yocto embedded Linux project, he said the following: I'm afraid I don't know the status of rt-preempt on beagle. Its not something that is on the official test matrix so it might work or it might not :/. I did ask around but nobody is giving

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 02:12:11 PM Mark Wendt did opine: On 01/23/2012 09:40 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, January 23, 2012 09:33:21 AM Mark Wendt did opine: [...] That's the rub, this box is pclos, first uid,gid is 500. Nothing says that UID/GID has to be used. Change

Re: [Emc-users] Emc-users Digest, Vol 69, Issue 116

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 02:16:38 PM Robert von Knobloch did opine: On 23/01/12 15:48, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? Yes, are there people who don't ?? Bob I have not yet, but I can sure see where it could

Re: [Emc-users] question on gcode parsing

2012-01-23 Thread Alan Condit
On Jan 23, 2012, at 2:17 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: Does anyone else indent their loops and subs in G-code? me --- Alan Condit 1085 Tierra Ct. Woodburn, OR 97071 Email -- acon...@ipns.com Home-Office (503) 982-0906

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 02:22:35 PM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: On Sunday, January 22, 2012 09:01:21 PM Jon Elson did opine: I just tried these two additions to my .ini file, then restarted emc while the machine was within about a thou of zero on all axises.

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Jeff Epler
Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they were made. I can speak only for myself here, and I have my linuxcnc developer hat on as I write this.. I don't have any trouble admitting

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 14:56 -0500, gene heskett wrote: by destroying that known position as the homed flags are set. Although I *do* have home switches on the Sherline, I also inserted [TRAJ] NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1 So it doesn't enforce the must-home-before-moving rule. Axis then starts up

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/1/23 Ed Nisley ed.08.nis...@pobox.com: [TRAJ] NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1 Axis then starts up wherever it shut down, with the previous position in place, and runs just fine. So are You telling that this line also tells Axis to remember joint positions on shutdown or do You have something

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Chris Morley
I will add my voice at least so Michael knows he is not the only one who feels this way. First: Jeff thank you for answering. And I'm glad to see you back in a more active role. I hope what ever kept you away has worked out well. Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 January 2012 21:46, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: I will add my voice at least so Michael knows he is not the only one who feels this way. And I. It seems almost impossible to get any idea what ideas are worth developing, or which direction to go. It is very difficult to

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-23 Thread Ed
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:58 -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine is on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys it. I have never been on the base before so I don't know their rules.

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread Ed Nisley
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 22:34 +0200, Viesturs Lācis wrote: also tells Axis to remember joint positions on shutdown It's a simpleminded XYZA Sherline mill that wouldn't know what to do with a joint if it saw one... -- Ed http://softsolder.com

Re: [Emc-users] Help with a GladeVCP startup error message

2012-01-23 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:36:52 -0500, you wrote: Did you ever think your attitude might have something to do with not getting some of your wish list implemented? The old more flies attracted with honey tends to apply. Tried that Mark - any requests, however put, simply get ignored if none of

Re: [Emc-users] [Emc-developers] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:17:17 +, you wrote: On 23 January 2012 21:46, Chris Morley chrisinnana...@hotmail.com wrote: I will add my voice at least so Michael knows he is not the only one who feels this way. And I. It seems almost impossible to get any idea what ideas are worth developing,

[Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-23 Thread Ed
Someone out there probably has worked this out. Hardinge uses home and limit switches and the turret encoder that use a pullup to 12 Volts. The UPC uses isolated 5 Volts for the input ports. The big question is how did you interface these? Current limited opto-isolators come to mind, small

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Possible Retrofit candidate for someone in the heartland

2012-01-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Ed ate...@mwt.net wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:58 -0600, Stuart Stevenson wrote: If no one on this list buys this machine I will bid on it. This machine is on the Air Force Base. If I can, I will pick it up for anyone that buys it.

Re: [Emc-users] Pico Sytems UPC and a Hardinge CHNC

2012-01-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 20:55 -0500, Ed wrote: Someone out there probably has worked this out. Hardinge uses home and limit switches and the turret encoder that use a pullup to 12 Volts. The UPC uses isolated 5 Volts for the input ports. The big question is how did you interface these?

Re: [Emc-users] Open letter to the EMC Board of Directors

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 23, 2012 11:57:10 PM Jeff Epler did opine: Michael, I would like to address your concerns over the quality of the rebranding changes and the degree of consideration that they were given before they were made. I can speak only for myself here, and I have my linuxcnc

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:02:02 AM Ed Nisley did opine: On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 14:56 -0500, gene heskett wrote: by destroying that known position as the homed flags are set. Although I *do* have home switches on the Sherline, I also inserted [TRAJ] NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1 So it

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary homing.

2012-01-23 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 24, 2012 12:17:44 AM Viesturs Lācis did opine: 2012/1/23 Ed Nisley ed.08.nis...@pobox.com: [TRAJ] NO_FORCE_HOMING = 1 Axis then starts up wherever it shut down, with the previous position in place, and runs just fine. So are You telling that this line also tells

Re: [Emc-users] [OT]Moveing pcb-gcode generated files to the milling machine=huge PIMA

2012-01-23 Thread Rafael Skodlar
On 01/23/2012 06:31 AM, gene heskett wrote: On Monday, January 23, 2012 08:49:08 AM Rafael Skodlar did opine: There is security, and there is Pain in the Ass obnoxiousness, this is the latter. I'd be much appreciative of an idiot-proof (and I'm apparently the idiot) Don't do that too