Yeah... 30billion dimes... After reading the article, it sounds like the EU is
more interested in getting thier peice of the M$ pie, than making business
fair... I dont see anything they say that leads me to belive that they care
about unfair business practices, or making things better... just
On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 04:44:20PM -0800, Marc Baber wrote:
I would say that spam, or at least the set of e-mails that one might
want to be classified as spam, is *not* the same for everybody, in the
case of politically motivated spam filtering. Because the corpus body
of collected spam
to avoid the noid:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/?url=/technet/security/bulletin/MS03-048.asp
brief from page:
snip
Microsoft Security Bulletin MS03-048
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer (824145)
Issued: November 11, 2003
Version: 1.0
Summary
Who Should Read
So; due to a combination of frustration with a slow release cycle
and curiosity, i replaced my Debian install on my laptop with Gentoo.
It's been an interesting experience so far; it has by far the most
primitive installer i've seen in a long time. My memory of the
vintage 1996 Slackware
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 03:53 am, Patrick R. Wade wrote:
: So; due to a combination of frustration with a slow release cycle
: and curiosity, i replaced my Debian install on my laptop with Gentoo.
: It's been an interesting experience so far; it has by far the most
: primitive installer i've
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 01:47:24PM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 12:10:19PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote:
On Mon, Nov 10, 2003 at 11:59:00AM -0800, Jacob Meuser wrote:
So, how does one install .debs or RPMs in gentoo, and still have
the niceness of emerge?
emerge
Hey, I feel special now. I've been spoofed.
From: Bob Crandell
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 11/12/2003 - 07:21:46 am
Files: attachment.txt (2 k)
Subject:help!
Section: 1.1 Keywords: plain qprint - 1 k
R566mL70 36Ds683C8 s3aC F20111j 7D1tj V882RX2 81 7LhJtm08 vg3U
Does anyone have an idea what the FATAL:2628:Exception occured
FATAL:2630:java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException: 2
means as I try to run the following Java program for manipulating the
data in my Neuros mp3 player? It has been working great on my RH 9
system until yesterday.
Thanks, Dirk
Hum, I don't know anything about the neurosdmb project, but since it
*was* working: What other conditions have changed?
Do you happen to have many more small files now vs. fewer [maybe larger]
files before? I ask since the ArrayIndexOutOfBounds error could
possibly be brought on by surpassing a
There are a few nice bash tricks to search and replace text in files,
using find, and a grep script that bolds the searched for words up on
this week's ArsTechnica Linux page:
http://arstechnica.com/etc/linux/2003/linux.ars-2003-2.html
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Darren Hayes wrote:
FYI, beginning this month, MS changed to announcing/releasing critical
update security patches only on the second Tuesday of each month.
Does this mean the Bad Guys will be rolling out their new exploits on
the second Wednesday of each month, to be sure their attacks will
Patrick R. Wade wrote:
One question i've not found the answer to yet, and would appreciate
if anyone else knows; is there something i can do with emerge or a
related application to list the full set of installed packages,
equivalent to Debian's
# dpkg -l '*' | grep ^ii
# qpkg -I
#
Dear EUGLUG,
I have a spare 40GB drive I was planning on putting in an old AMD K6-2
500 server. The machine is currently running off of a 6GB drive. I've
got 2 of these same machines -- 1 is running my websites, and the other
is at home as a test machine.
When I put the 40GB drive in there,
So we hope although I'm pretty certain there has almost *always*
been some outstanding, known exploits on M$ products which they
continually deny, put off, delay, etc. Anyone got handy links to back
me up?
Ben
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 09:47:06 -0800 (PST)
jgw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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It depends on your hardware, AFAIK, and then is up to the kernel, as to
how the drives get assigned during boot. Just dealt with some boot
seqence issues on SATA drives here at work, and the fix was to pass
boot prompt parameters to force an ordering which allowed booting from
the desired drive.
On 20031112.1047, Ben Barrett said ...
It depends on your hardware, AFAIK, and then is up to the kernel, as to
how the drives get assigned during boot. Just dealt with some boot
seqence issues on SATA drives here at work, and the fix was to pass
boot prompt parameters to force an ordering
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:47:06AM -0800, jgw wrote:
FYI, beginning this month, MS changed to announcing/releasing critical
update security patches only on the second Tuesday of each month.
If this is true, this plan isn't going to last long. Any hack victim would
have a heyday in court if
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:42:53AM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote:
So we hope although I'm pretty certain there has almost *always*
been some outstanding, known exploits on M$ products which they
continually deny, put off, delay, etc. Anyone got handy links to back
me up?
Ben
How about
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 09:44:24AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
# qpkg -I
# qpkg -I -v
To see the list of packages you've explicitly requested:
qpkg works but is quite slow.
# cat /var/cache/edb/world
I'm planning to put Gentoo on my laptop eventually. Let us know how
things
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:09:20AM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote:
I have a spare 40GB drive I was planning on putting in an old AMD K6-2
500 server. The machine is currently running off of a 6GB drive. I've
got 2 of these same machines -- 1 is running my websites, and the other
is at home as a
In response to jgw, Ben wrote:
So we hope although I'm pretty certain there has
almost *always*
been some outstanding, known exploits on M$ products
which they
continually deny, put off, delay, etc. Anyone got
handy links to back
me up?
Ben
Ben/all,
pivx.com used to publish a popular
Hi,
When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box
I get
rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions
This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well.
help.
Thanks
Bob
--
Assured Computing
When you need to be sure.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At work, I leave an SSH session open to my server and run Mutt off the
server. Recently, our worksite acquired a firewall that closes inactive
sessions after 15 minutes. So if I don't get mail for 15 minutes and
don't use the terminal, it drops me.
What I'd like to do is update my .muttrc file
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:58:22AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
The other laptop I have a 3 year warranty on it, and the hardware is
so new that Gentoo is the best for it. Freebsd won't boot.
What'd you get?
Dell inspiron 8000 or maybe 8500. P4 2.2 ghz, 512mb, 30gb, geforce 2 or
4 with 64mb
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 08:59:47PM +, Bob Crandell wrote:
Hi,
When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new Redhat 9.0 box
I get
rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions
This is an upgrade from mandrake 7.2 that didn't go well.
Wait, an upgrade from
Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by
doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option
for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new
packages, so (if that's right) it could/should be used instead of -i
anytime. I use
But -- they *HAD* to do it. It was the only way. It also made them
that much cooler, er more badass. The main ill effect I recall was the
destruction of the fine chandelier in the ballroom (their first major
encounter) -- didn't they also need to cross the streams to toast the
Stay-Puft man?
Rob Hudson wrote:
At work, I leave an SSH session open to my server and run Mutt off the
server. Recently, our worksite acquired a firewall that closes inactive
sessions after 15 minutes. So if I don't get mail for 15 minutes and
don't use the terminal, it drops me.
Go to the document root
Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box isn't. This is
a file server in another city too far from here. I had to install Redhat 3 times to
get it to work. The users were hanging over me, Is it done yet? And this was on
a Saturday after I'd given them a weeks notice
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 11:58:22AM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
Cory Petkovsek wrote:
qpkg works but is quite slow.
Yes, without the -I flag, qpkg searches all of /usr/portage. But with
-I, it runs quickly. (qpkg -I -v -nc ran in 0.25 seconds of real
time on my box just now.)
Indeed, it's
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 01:39:00AM -0800, Patrick R. Wade wrote:
No, you have to do an added step of
# emerge inject package-category/package-name
Thanks, I didn't think of that.
But, I think I'm going to make ebuilds in PORTDIR_OVERLAY from the
ccrma SRPMS, using existing ebuilds for
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 12:59, Bob Crandell wrote:
When I type rpm -i wu-ftpd-2.6.2-12.i386.rpm on a brand new
Redhat 9.0 box I get
rpm: relocation error: rpm: undefined symbol: poptAliasOptions
Well, first of all I wouldn't use wu_ftpd. Redhat has (finally!)
switched to vsftpd, which
Ben Barrett ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Hmm, maybe see if you're trying to upgrade an existing package, (by
doing something like 'rpm -qa|grep ftpd') and if so, use the -U option
for rpm instead of -i. AFAIK, -U can be used even for installs of new
packages, so (if that's right) it could/should
On 20031112.1424, Bob Miller said ...
In a more serious vein, I have the same problem at TiVo, so I wrote
this script, which I called printloop.
#!/bin/sh
while sleep 60
do
echo -ne '\1'
done
When it runs, I see:
ne \1
Show up on the screen. Server is
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:24:54PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
You'll either have to kill
printloop before you log out or terminate ssh by typing ~..
What does ~. do? I tried it on my command line in an ssh session but it
said command not found. Nothing in the bash man page.
Cory
--
Cory
Hey,
I'm getting rid of my Mac work laptop and will soon be
getting a new Stinkpad (T30 I believe). I have been
out of the daily use Linux world for about a year or
so, so I was wondering what thoughts folks would have
on recommended distros for work purposes. I have been
using mostly
Can you post an ls -l of /var/lib/rpm/
Garl
-Original Message-
From: Bob Crandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:18 PM
To: The Eugene Unix and GNU/Linux User Group's mail list
Subject: Re: [eug-lug]RPM woes
Ben Barrett ([EMAIL
On 20031112.1518, Rob Hudson said ...
I tried using the escaped character insert mode in Vim.
And it works! Thanks kbob.
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Neat idea; I tried it but it didn't work, the status_format command
doesn't interpret the %fmt command the same as the index_format
command, and even that doesn't update without some keyboard activity as
far as I can tell. How about something silly like this:
ping -i 840 myisp.net /dev/null
On 20031112.1352, Patrick R. Wade said ...
What are you using for the SSH client? You may be able to set it to
send keepalives. I had a problem like you describe telecommuting from
the Growers' Market to efn, and it went away when i set 2-minute
keepalives in PuTTY.
I'm using just
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 01:35:12PM -0800, Rob Hudson wrote:
At work, I leave an SSH session open to my server and run Mutt off the
server. Recently, our worksite acquired a firewall that closes inactive
sessions after 15 minutes. So if I don't get mail for 15 minutes and
don't use the
Maybe ~ followed by ^Z (control-z) is what he is going for here?
To suspend SSH, you need to put a tilde ('~') on a newline before doing
the usual control-Z to suspend the SSH connection (this is protection
for you, so that you can suspend another program running through SSH
without suspending
man ssh_config
in $HOME/.ssh/config
KeepAlive yes
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 03:43 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
On 20031112.1352, Patrick R. Wade said ...
What are you using for the SSH client? You may be able to set it to
send keepalives. I had a problem like you describe telecommuting
Google (and Google Groups) is your friend:
http://www.brandonhutchinson.com/OpenSSH_ClientAliveInterval.html
http://ajmitch.dhis.org/devel/info/misc/vinces_guide_to_openssh.txt
Jason wrote:
I'm getting rid of my Mac work laptop and will soon be
getting a new Stinkpad (T30 I believe). I have been
out of the daily use Linux world for about a year or
so, so I was wondering what thoughts folks would have
on recommended distros for work purposes. I have been
using
In Putty, the option is Sending of null packet to keep session alive
(seconds between keep alives)
Below is help info from Putty help doc. Maybe this will help you find an
option in OpenSSH.
Darren
If you find your sessions are closing unexpectedly ('Connection reset by
peer') after they have
Thanks Bob.
VMware needs RAM more than it needs CPU power, I
thought.
You're definitely right, I guess I should have said
resource intensive.
OTOH, if you want to abandon all semblance of a
normal life and devote
each of your remaining hours on this mortal plane to
Linux
maintenance,
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:38:18PM -0800, Cory Petkovsek wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:24:54PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
You'll either have to kill
printloop before you log out or terminate ssh by typing ~..
What does ~. do? I tried it on my command line in an ssh session but it
said
Jason wrote:
Yeah, I usually rebuild the kernel as a first step.
That way if I foobar anything, it's an easy rebuild
w/o too much hoohah.
One of the nice things about the default Gentoo kernel is that it has
a file, /proc/config. It's a copy of the .config file the kernel was
built with.
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:18:43PM -0800, Ben Barrett wrote:
I helped a co-worker do a Knoppix install on his Dell 5100 and noticed
that the *unstable* apt sources were in there by default. Ack?
Yes; most everyone is using either those or testing. I was using
stable, wherein begins a rant.
I
http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5106450.html?tag=nefd_top
me too subpoena
--
You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest
efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a
harmony
of mathematical precision. -The Architect
Microsoft has resolved this issue.
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 12:47 pm, jgw wrote:
: FYI, beginning this month, MS changed to announcing/releasing critical
: update security patches only on the second Tuesday of each month.
:
: If this is true, this plan isn't going to last long. Any hack victim
would
: have a heyday in
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 03:59:47PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
Cory Petkovsek wrote:
What does ~. do? I tried it on my command line in an ssh session but it
said command not found. Nothing in the bash man page.
Look in ssh(1). Tells ssh to disconnect. You have to type
it at the
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 05:04:23PM -0800, Larry Price wrote:
http://news.com.com/2100-7344_3-5106450.html?tag=nefd_top
me too subpoena
Now, Larry, don't go indulging in subpoenas envy...
--
Mine is similar to Mike Andrews's; ten inches long, three inches wide,
but white enamel instead of
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote:
Ok brand new a bad choice of words. Redhat is brand new. The box
isn't.
What I was getting at was did you install redhat over the top of
mandrake or did you wipe it? They way you said it sounded like the
former.
This is a file
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 02:36:08PM -0800, Jason wrote:
Hey,
I'm getting rid of my Mac work laptop and will soon be
getting a new Stinkpad (T30 I believe). I have been
out of the daily use Linux world for about a year or
so, so I was wondering what thoughts folks would have
on recommended
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 01:34:18AM +, Bob Crandell wrote:
Not any more. ls now says:
ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.3' not found (required by
/lib/tls/libc.so.6)
ls: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_PRIVATE' not found (required by
/lib/tls/libc.so.6)
Have I ever mentioned
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:29:15PM -0800, Jason wrote:
Is gentoo that bad? I don't mind putting in a bit of
work, but since it is a work laptop, I mostly want to
get going with a fairly small amount of downtime.
Don't do it. Consider which is more effective for your time, a source
based distro
I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I started and
this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies.
Thanks.
Cory Petkovsek ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 10:37:17PM +, Bob Crandell wrote:
Ok brand new a bad choice of
What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake 7.2 used RPM
v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If
you did do an upgrade from Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is
probably an issue of an out of date db. There
On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 02:18:12AM +, Bob Crandell wrote:
I'm not convinced it's hardware. There weren't any symptons before I
started and
this last bit was because I was trying to fix rpm's dependancies.
Thanks.
No symptoms? 3 installs to get it to work?
Did those dependencies
Grigsby, Garl wrote:
What it sounded like to me was a out of date rpm database. Mandrake
7.2 used RPM v3.somthingorotherithinkitwas.0.5 (another indian
name), while Redhat 9 used 4.2. If you did do an upgrade from
Mandrake to Redhat (you are braver than I) then it is probably an
issue of an
Um, here I am. You shouldn't have any real trouble booting off
your PCI card. As long as the BIOS sees it as a boot device
you're in good hands. Linux will just see your drives as
/dev/hde or higher. As for booting from SCSI it loads the
drivers during the boot. The SCSI BIOS handles getting the
On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:40:05PM -0800, Bob Miller wrote:
Jason wrote:
Yeah, I usually rebuild the kernel as a first step.
That way if I foobar anything, it's an easy rebuild
w/o too much hoohah.
One of the nice things about the default Gentoo kernel is that it has
a file,
Larry Price wrote:
I just started the download.
x86 is the only ISO available at this time.
--
You are the eventuality of an anomaly , which despite my sincerest
efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony
of mathematical precision. -The Architect
Microsoft has
On Wednesday 12 November 2003 17:20, jgw wrote:
The patch for that vulnerability was issued nearly a month
before Blaster. I believe Blaster first showed up around August
11th. The patch in question, MS03-026, came out in mid-July...
the 16th?
The worm was relatively successful not because
I know. I'm bad.
Just let this be a leason to you. Don't cut corners.
The longer I think about the more I'm hoping Cory isn't right about sick hardware.
I'll know in the morning.
Thanks
Bob Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Grigsby, Garl wrote:
What it sounded like to me was a out of date
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