Re: saying no to the doctor...

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 21:18, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:48 PM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:43:12 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: The machine: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 Bad news from the doctor: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/11 Turing

Re: saying no to the doctor...

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 22:12, John Mikes wrote: Telmo, some 2+ decades ago I think I had a reason to avert from the topic called panpsychism (would be hard to recall it adequately now). As I remember I called the phenomenon covered by this misnomer PANSENSITIVITY (what I would not like to

Re: The Evolutionary Tree of Religion

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 22:42, John Mikes wrote: Bruno, your 'scientific' logic supersedes me. Explaining ontology by existing and - I suppose - existing by the likes of 'ontology' (etc.) is more than what I buy. There is no metaphysics here. I am just saying that if you do a theory, you

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 22:48, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 4, 2014 8:17:29 PM UTC+1, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 01:14, LizR wrote: On 4 May 2014 07:22, spudboy100 via Everything List everyth...@googlegroups.com wrote: I shan't defend the behaviors of the Abe religions

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 23:34, John Mikes wrote: Somebody wrote (Liz?): It was me, answering to Liz. For example there is no problem with capitalism per se, unless you allow money to vote. Lobbying can be permitted, but not through financial helps. If you allow this, you kill capitalism,

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 23:46, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The money supply itself is not under the control

Re: Honey Bee

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 04 May 2014, at 11:34, Quentin Anciaux wrote: 2014-05-04 6:24 GMT+02:00 LizR lizj...@gmail.com: On 4 May 2014 15:20, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote: I have forwarded your query to an expert in Arabic Grammar. Your quote from Wikipedia is correct. What I can inform you,

Re: Honey Bee

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 00:25, LizR wrote: PS did I get that right about the queen being fed special stuff? My knowledge is also badly informed on many things...) On 5 May 2014 10:24, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, good point. It seems likely to me that people would notice that there was

Re: The Evolutionary Tree of Religion

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 01:36, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 08:42, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: In my agnostic vocabulary the 'real' includes lots of 'inconnues' that may change whatever we THINK is included - as historic examples show. I still hold mathematics an exorbitant achievement of

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 03:57, meekerdb wrote: It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. Bitcoin was at first a way to go around the sickness (the non free- ness) of current capitalism, notably to reflect the demand

Re: Honey Bee

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 06:16, Samiya Illias wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:24 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, good point. It seems likely to me that people would notice that there was a queen bee who laid all the eggs, and perhaps make some assumptions based on that. If they noticed

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:46 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at the moment. The money supply itself is

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoins first hope to profit from their appreciation. Hm. It all sounds a bit Ponzi-like to me. If

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Quentin Anciaux
2014-05-05 10:30 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: It creates a parallel medium of exchange in which those who make bitcoins first hope to profit from

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Quentin Anciaux allco...@gmail.com wrote: 2014-05-05 10:30 GMT+02:00 Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 4:48 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 13:57, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote: It creates a parallel

Re: saying no to the doctor...

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 10:12 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote: Telmo, some 2+ decades ago I think I had a reason to avert from the topic called *panpsychism* (would be hard to recall it adequately now). As I remember I called the phenomenon covered by this misnomer PANSENSITIVITY (what

Re: saying no to the doctor...

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 21:18, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:48 PM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:43:12 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes wrote: The machine:

Re: saying no to the doctor...

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 14:43, Telmo Menezes wrote: The machine: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 Bad news from the doctor: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/11 Turing test: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/15

Re: The British Comedian's Joke

2014-05-05 Thread Telmo Menezes
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:49 AM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: The late Bob Monkhouse was way before my time and never trendy. But aft er he died they looked at his jokes, which were just simple and so funny they decided he was a genius. Here is one of his jokes that makes me laugh every time: He's

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-05 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Saturday, May 3, 2014 3:53:48 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 May 2014, at 23:58, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, May 2, 2014 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 May 2014, at 20:42, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, April 18, 2014 3:23:13 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal

Re: The British Comedian's Joke

2014-05-05 Thread Terren Suydam
Some sort of selection mechanism? People who laugh while they're eating choke to death? On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.comwrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:49 AM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: The late Bob Monkhouse was way before my time and never trendy. But

Re: saying no to the doctor...

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 12:59, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 21:18, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 6:48 PM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, May 4, 2014 1:43:12 PM UTC+1, telmo_menezes

UDA video (was Re: saying no to the doctor...)

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 13:07, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 14:43, Telmo Menezes wrote: The machine: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/1 Bad news from the doctor: http://existentialcomics.com/comic/11

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 05 May 2014, at 14:27, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, May 3, 2014 3:53:48 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 May 2014, at 23:58, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, May 2, 2014 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 01 May 2014, at 20:42, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday,

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread John Ross
My ideas are very well summarized at Amazon.com. Just click “books” and search for “tronnies”. J Ross From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Terren Suydam Sent: Saturday, May 03, 2014 6:25 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
The YOU is, of course, getting someone to look at things from a first person point of view, as if I was Prime Minister I'd.. I agree 100% that we are ruled by plutocrats, what you likely will violently oppose is my observation that worldwide both progressives and conservatives rule their

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread John Clark
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 4:05 PM, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: I believe I address every major issue in physics, from the internal structure of an electrons [...] That is not a major issue in physics or even a minor one. There is not one shred of experimental evidence that

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread Terren Suydam
Thanks. I assume, or hope, you're not here merely to peddle your wares. In that spirit, would you care to share a few of your 101 predictions? Terren On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 11:08 AM, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.comwrote: My ideas are very well summarized at Amazon.com. Just click

Modal logic (derivation of physics sum up till end)

2014-05-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Craig, Liz, Brent and/or anyone interested, Again, it is just an attempt. Take it easy. I have to train myself, and a bit yourself. You might tell me if this helps, if only a little bit. *** (it is also a second attempt to send this mail, as it looks my emailer has some problem) If you

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread John Ross
What is your experiments evidence that the electron does not have an internal structure? Electrons have a size and a mass. According to my model, an electron is comprised of three tronnies, two minus and one plus and a positron is comprised of two plus tronnies and one minus tronnie. An

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-05 Thread Craig Weinberg
On Monday, May 5, 2014 10:26:27 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 05 May 2014, at 14:27, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Saturday, May 3, 2014 3:53:48 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: On 02 May 2014, at 23:58, Craig Weinberg wrote: On Friday, May 2, 2014 11:15:40 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread spudboy100 via Everything List
In the US, if I may be so opinionated, would tell Lenny that Mr. Joe.. is now US president, even though he hates the other 50% of the country. Those people of Joe's hue, like anyone else, can, if one possess a bit of talent, and ambition, can do fair for themselves, and I know this, because I

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 19:02, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 04 May 2014, at 23:46, LizR wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything because it doesn't even exist at

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 20:19, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: On Sun, May 4, 2014 at 11:46 PM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 May 2014 07:38, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: Yes, and this already happened. I would add that capitalism is not catching up with anything

Re: The British Comedian's Joke

2014-05-05 Thread Russell Standish
On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 01:09:47PM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:49 AM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: The late Bob Monkhouse was way before my time and never trendy. But aft er he died they looked at his jokes, which were just simple and so funny they decided he was a

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 5 May 2014 22:44, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com wrote: The rigged game of inflationist economies became obvious with feminism: once women joined the work force, it became harder for families to survive on a single salary. It's an enslavement system that deprives children of

Re: Evolution from Scripture

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 6 May 2014 08:22, spudboy100 via Everything List everything-list@googlegroups.com wrote: In the US, if I may be so opinionated, would tell Lenny that Mr. Joe.. is now US president, even though he hates the other 50% of the country. Those people of Joe's hue, like anyone else, can, if one

Re: The British Comedian's Joke

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 6 May 2014 10:45, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote: On Mon, May 05, 2014 at 01:09:47PM +0200, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 2:49 AM, ghib...@gmail.com wrote: The late Bob Monkhouse was way before my time and never trendy. But aft er he died they looked at

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
I thought that book was something to do with The Two Ronnies 8) I must be thinking of that other thread on British comedy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

RE: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread John Ross
I checked them out on U-Tube. Pretty funny. J Ross From: everything-list@googlegroups.com [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of LizR Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 4:53 PM To: everything-list@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: TRONNIES I thought that book was something to do

Re: TRONNIES

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 6 May 2014 07:00, John Ross jr...@trexenterprises.com wrote: Here are the first 14. You can see more of my model at Amazon.com. I don't wish to be contrary, but most of those aren't predictions. A prediction has to involve something that can be observed and / or measured. Most of the 14

Re: Video of VCR

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
On 3 May 2014 09:39, Craig Weinberg whatsons...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday, May 1, 2014 9:07:13 PM UTC-4, stathisp wrote: Do you believe that mathematical truths are true independent of mind? I'm not sure what mind is. I understand that nothing can exist independently of sensory

Re: Honey Bee

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
As Dr Seuss might have put it, Sam - I - am - not! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to

Re: Honey Bee

2014-05-05 Thread Samiya Illias
On 06-May-2014, at 6:20 am, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote: As Dr Seuss might have put it, Sam - I - am - not! :) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it,

Re: UDA video (was Re: saying no to the doctor...)

2014-05-05 Thread LizR
First I get to see Max Tegmark giving a talk, and now you! :-) (Or at least I will when I have time.) On 6 May 2014 02:17, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On 05 May 2014, at 13:07, Telmo Menezes wrote: On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 7:56 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote: On