[FairfieldLife] Re: I saw my first Gestapo van this morning/Giving in to the Flame

2007-09-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore20002000 wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: I see you got a weekend pass from Austin State Hospital. :) Bhairitu, This is how the downward spiral begins. And once

[FairfieldLife] Vyaasa's comment on II 30

2007-09-22 Thread cardemaister
YS II 30: ahiMsaasatyaasteyabrahmacharyaaparigrahaa yamaaH (ahimsaa-satya-asteya-brahmacarya-aparigrahaaH; yamaaH) Vyaasa's comment on brahmacarya (from a DN text): brahmacaryaM guptendiyasyopasthasya saMyamaH. (There is apparently one typo in guptendiya. It should prolly read guptendriya

[FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu Sep 20 21:14:33 PDT 2007, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams willytex@ wrote: Duveyoung wrote: The Jews had it figured. If yer

[FairfieldLife] Re: Sri Sri Ravi Shankar on Feelings

2007-09-22 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, martyboi martyboi@ wrote: Taking Responsibility For Your Feelings Often people think caring, being compassionate, means catering to the emotional needs of another person. They think they need to say, Oh, how are you feeling? You are sad

[FairfieldLife] The Collapse of evangelical Christian rule in America

2007-09-22 Thread do.rflex
The fall of the Godmongers Praise Jesus, it's the collapse of evangelical Christian rule in America. Rejoice! By Mark Morford San Francisco Chronicle, September 21, 2007 http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/g/a/2007/09/21/notes092107.DTLtype=printable Oh yes, by all means please

[FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: to have matrilineal and patriarchal concurrent within a society, though matrilineal precedes patriarchal in judaism as well as other

[FairfieldLife] Re: I saw my first Gestapo van this morning/Giving in to the Flame

2007-09-22 Thread Duveyoung
Kid the Willy? Is that the same as Play with the Willy? I'm just asking. Edg --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Lurk: Bhairitu, This is how the downward spiral begins. And once it starts the momemtum keeps it going. Why

[FairfieldLife] Trivial pursuit question?

2007-09-22 Thread cardemaister
What is the most abundant element in the Earth's crust?

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Collapse of evangelical Christian rule in America

2007-09-22 Thread TurquoiseB
There is very little as satisfying in life as Mark Morford on a real new-asshole-ripper of a rant. This was one. Thanks for posting it.

[FairfieldLife] Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
Incredible little kid reading from the Koran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjamfcjoLFA Put aside any Islamophobia you may have and just listen to the extraordinary beauty of his voice.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivial pursuit question?

2007-09-22 Thread Duveyoung
cardemaister: What is the most abundant element in the Earth's crust? Edg: Dictionary: crust - the trait of being rude and impertinent; inclined to take liberties. I'd say that impertinence is the major element. Rude...well a child can be innocently rude -- not knowing the rules of society,

[FairfieldLife] Re: I saw my first Gestapo van this morning

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 9/20/07 10:58:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Starbucks says it pays premium prices in order to make sure that farmers can support their families:

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-22 Thread Duveyoung
Thanks for this. The sweetness matches anything Charlotte Church put out. Like flowers in the wilderness -- kids -- so much innocence everywhere sprouting in boulder strewn fields of dogma. Anyone see Kid Nation the other night? For all the flaws, and despite Satan being introduced at the end,

[FairfieldLife] Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread brontebaxter8
So what is the ego, an I or a Me? Me is something that things are done to. I is a doer. People who perceive the ego as something that must dissolve for enlightenment see it as a Me – a something that reacts to the world. The haven or goal for these perceivers is a place out of world – out of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brontebaxter8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip To claim that the ego is only a Me is to perceive only its limited expression. Such limited expression certainly needs dissolving for cosmic bliss to occur. But the Me only needs to dissolve into the I. It

[FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Duveyoung wrote: I was tipping my hat to the fact that despite not knowing about mitochondria, the Jews came up with a system that recognizes the mother's role in owning offspring. It's cool that they

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Judy, big thanks for the little Koran kid; pure stuff. It was funny that right after the clip finished and the next two suggested or related clips rolled up on the screen, one of them was Edg's latest Beatles Trikke clip. Not a big deal but a nice semi-synchronicity. ** --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, brontebaxter8 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what is the ego, an I or a Me? Me is something that things are done to. I is a doer. snip Yes, Vedic philosophy seems so unlimited. It speaks eloquently of the Unlimited. But it teaches you that to live

[FairfieldLife] Invincible America: Welcome back to the Golden Dome

2007-09-22 Thread Dick Mays
The Maharishi Patanjali Golden Dome of Pure Knowledge is once again a beautiful Golden Dome New roof - A newly insulated foam roof finished with a deep rich gold now crowns the men's dome. Upgraded entryway - Has been upgraded with new ceramic floor tiles and new paint and woodwork. The

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles

2007-09-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
Judy, I finally got through your suggested exchange on the skeptic board. That very interesting and brought out many important points about testing, objectivity and bias. This is a great topic for self-discovery. Most people are skewed by financial gain, but not always. I spent a fair amount

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bill wrote: The soul is a pure reflection of God called the Jivatma, when in the beginning when it was tempted by Lucifer (maya/avidya) in the Garden of Eden (pure innocence) it was warned not to eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and evil or surely it would die (be subject to the wheel of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread BillyG.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bill wrote: The soul is a pure reflection of God called the Jivatma, when in the beginning when it was tempted by Lucifer (maya/avidya) in the Garden of Eden (pure innocence) it was warned not to eat of the tree

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivial pursuit question?

2007-09-22 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the most abundant element in the Earth's crust? silicon

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread John
Both of you are making good points. We don't see any major difference between your ideas. I would just like to add something to the discussion about the point relating to the 'mistake of the intellect'. This mistake can be the contributing factor of those who are agnostics or atheists. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, big thanks for the little Koran kid; pure stuff. Almost converted me to Islam on the spot. You'd think it would take decades to learn to do that wonderful ornamentation so cleanly and gorgeously, but the kid

[FairfieldLife] Re: Trivial pursuit question?

2007-09-22 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: What is the most abundant element in the Earth's crust? silicon http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/tables/elabund.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Judy, I finally got through your suggested exchange on the skeptic board. Oh, man, that should get you some kind of medal. That very interesting and brought out many important points about testing,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Amazing young Koran-singer

2007-09-22 Thread Marek Reavis
For me Islam is a great and exquisite take on life when seen through the eyes of Rumi (or at least, the Coleman Barks versions, and also Robert Bly's quasi-translations, too). This young boy's voice and expression dovetails with the feeling I get when I'm reading Rumi. Thanks again. ** --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: New Cropcircles

2007-09-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
It is indeed. Also frustrating because so many people seem to have theirs skewed toward one end of the spectrum or the other. My skew is obvious, but posting here reminds me of my bias and that helps me stay conscious of it. I went from desiring unbounded awareness to just staying conscious of

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a shuudra!

2007-09-22 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: curtisdeltablues wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: According to this little lagna-program, I'm a shuudra.

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a shuudra!

2007-09-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
When I was in india some years ago, I bought a lot of great books -- and had them shipped to the states. One of the staff at the hotel, a lovely young woman, asked what is all that. I explained. She said Oh. You are a brahman and smiled. That's why they call it the hospitality business! ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It?
I can't think of a reasonable way of comprehending what you're saying, whether literally, intellectually, emotionally, morally or logically. Please clarify. On 9/22/07, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think

[FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread lurkernomore20002000
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of a reasonable way of comprehending what you're saying, whether literally, intellectually, emotionally, morally or

[FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of a reasonable way of comprehending what you're saying, whether literally, intellectually, emotionally, morally or

[FairfieldLife] Re: FLAME ALERT FLAME ALERT

2007-09-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Samadhi Is Much Closer Than You Think -- Really! -- It's A No-Brainer. Who'd've Thunk It? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't think of a reasonable way of comprehending what you're saying, whether literally, intellectually, emotionally, morally or

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I think that what may be going on is that a number of people who paid their dues in the TM movement don't realize how heavily they have been influenced by Patanjali and his hangups. He may have *been*

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-22 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I think that what may be going on is that a number of people who paid their dues in the TM movement don't realize how heavily they have been

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip I think that what may be going on is that a number of people who paid

[FairfieldLife] Fuegos artificiales

2007-09-22 Thread TurquoiseB
It's fiesta time in Sitges. Actually, given that this is a tourist town and that the Spanish are really big into fiestas anyway, it *often* seems to be fiesta time in Sitges. This one, like most of the others, is for some saint or another...who can keep track? But so far one of the good

[FairfieldLife] What if you spent one year following every rule in the Bible?

2007-09-22 Thread curtisdeltablues
A. J. Jacobs did exactly that. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20910659/site/newsweek/ I've been a fan of this guy since his last project. This is great!

[FairfieldLife] Am I an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread billy jim
I'm always amazed at the things people say so unconsciously ... The Ego ,The Divine. In post-20th Century spiritual language it has become common to speak this way - putting an article before the word. I believe it started with the Freudians using this type of language to fortify their

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-22 Thread emptybill
Hey Judy, Very accurate description of just how the culture of Vedanta was in Shankara's day. Quite dispassionate reporting too. Congradulations to you. We rarely see these kinds of simple, unleaved observations here of FFL. I find it refreshing. Even Vaj should be able to agree - and I'm not

[FairfieldLife] Re: What if you spent one year following every rule in the Bible?

2007-09-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Curtis, thanks for the cite and the recommendation; this guy is great in his sincerity and earnestness. I love how he gets off on the whole idea of experimenting with his life; there are more than a few people on this list who can identify with that attitude; maybe it's one of the legacies of our

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-22 Thread Marek Reavis
Good observation. I found Judy's analysis very helpful. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Judy, Very accurate description of just how the culture of Vedanta was in Shankara's day. Quite dispassionate reporting too. Congradulations

Fwd: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vyaasa's comment on II 30

2007-09-22 Thread billy jim
Repost of my original email which did not appear on FFL: billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:49:17 -0700 (PDT) From: billy jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Vyaasa's comment on II 30 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com T.S. Rukmani's translation of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Am I an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Bill wrote: The Divine is a mode of speech designed to shelter us from our frightful picture of a horrible, wrathful God. However is also shelters us from having to confront the Being at the heart of the most powerful experiences of deity found in the western tradition - all-consuming

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Ron
--Nope, you're wrong. There is an I after realization but it's not the delusional I as before. Response: what happens to that I when you die? ( drop the body?)- and what happens to the eternal Being? By process of illimination- whatever is left after everything else is gone- this is not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Christ said I and the Father are One where is the two in that? They are one but they are also two, as a branch can say I am the tree and still be a branch. You can experience being one with the Infinite yet an individual at the same time. -

[FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Ron
I am not enlightened and can not say from direct experience - I can only pass along what 3 people here say in my path- then again, the honesty of the situation is unless it is known from direct experience, then it is a belief system- so you have my beliefs presented. I will let you know

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm a shuudra!

2007-09-22 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When I was in india some years ago, I bought a lot of great books -- and had them shipped to the states. One of the staff at the hotel, a lovely young woman, asked what is all that. I explained. She said Oh.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is Ego an I or a Me?

2007-09-22 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, BillyG. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bronte Baxter brontebaxter8@ wrote: Bill wrote: The soul is a pure reflection of God called the Jivatma, when in the beginning when it was tempted by Lucifer (maya/avidya) in

[FairfieldLife] Signposts that MMY is not enlightened

2007-09-22 Thread Ron
1. I had felt caged in all these years from not living in a proper vastu Response from my Guru when I asked is anything had ever caged her in- no 2. cognitions of vedas Response from my Guru- cognitions, discoveries, knowing what needs to be known about anything, sidhis, cognizing all of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Self-Annihilation of Everything Worth Anyth

2007-09-22 Thread new . morning
Tom, thanks for you reply. Thoughts (not arguments) below. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: New Morning et al: writes snipped ___Thus, for example, I understand, directly, that thoughts, and the subset of thoughts called desires,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Challenge -- say something true

2007-09-22 Thread authfriend
Thanks, Marek and emptybill, for your kind comments. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good observation. I found Judy's analysis very helpful. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote: Hey Judy,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The fallacy is that a *Me* can Gain Realization

2007-09-22 Thread Bronte Baxter
Ron wrote: I am not enlightened and can not say from direct experience - I can only pass along what 3 people here say in my path- then again, the honesty of the situation is unless it is known from direct experience, then it is a belief system- so you have my beliefs presented.