Fedora Unity releases updated Fedora 9 Re-Spin

2008-07-21 Thread Jeroen van Meeuwen
The Fedora Unity Project is proud to announce the release of new ISO Re-Spins (DVD) of Fedora 9. These Re-Spin ISOs are based on the officially released Fedora 9 installation media and include all updates released as of July 18th, 2008. The ISO images are available for i386 and x86_64

Fedora Weekly News Issue 135

2008-07-21 Thread Pascal Calarco
Fedora Weekly News Issue 135 Welcome to Fedora Weekly News Issue 135 for the week ending July 19, 2008. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/LatestIssue Fedora Weekly News keep you updated with the latest issues, events and activities in the fedora community. If you are interested in

Announcing the Fedora OLPC Special Interest Group

2008-07-21 Thread Greg Dekoenigsberg
The engineers at OLPC are busy building an educational experience for the kids of the world. They are basing their excellent work on Fedora. Their time is stretched perilously thin. Every hour an overworked OLPC engineer spends doing Fedora work is an hour they could be spending doing

Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release

2008-07-21 Thread Nicu Buculei
Jiří Jakub Mašek wrote: Hi, I prefer the variant of 14,17,20,23 (in the right column) shapes from radio-check.png, low noise, good readable... Uh... those are not different choices but all the possible states for those controls. 2008/7/18 Martin Sourada: On Thu, 2008-07-17 at 22:55

Re: Intro

2008-07-21 Thread Nicu Buculei
Ashok Gautham wrote: My name is Ashok Gautham. I prefer the nick ScriptDevil Hi and welcome! I am a UG student in India. I can work with Gimp. I am learning blender at the moment. But it may take quite some time. I have been using We can use some Blender expertise and GIMP is always

Re: [Nodoka GTK2 Engine] Gathering ideas for next release - wiki is up

2008-07-21 Thread Martin Sourada
Yup, it is a radical change, now they look really themed (worth talking about it as a feature). Probably yes. Considering that the Feature freeze for F10 is nearing and I haven't finished yet with the sketching, I'll push it for Fedora 11, while in Fedora 10 we'll have new notification theme

Re: Intro

2008-07-21 Thread Ashok Gautham
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:59 PM, Nicu Buculei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you still wanted to contribute to Ubuntu despite not being the distribution you use the most? At that point of time I was trying out xubuntu on another computer. So i wanted to contribute wasnt approved because

Re: Intro

2008-07-21 Thread Nicu Buculei
Nicu Buculei wrote: Ashok Gautham wrote: btw... how do I get myself approved in the artwork group? Complete a request from the DesignService queue (I linked to it in my previous message) and someone (me?) will approve you, this is the rule Uh... lame reply to myself: or create any other

[fedora-astronomy] Poster about Fedora Astronomy presented

2008-07-21 Thread Sergio Pascual
Hi all, this last week I have presented a poster about Fedora Astronomy in the meeting of the Spanish Astronomical Society. This is me: http://sergiopr.fedorapeople.org/docs/p1000943.jpg and this is the poster (in Spanish): http://sergiopr.fedorapeople.org/docs/fedora_poster_sea08.pdf The

[Bug 456084] Review Request: gfs-garaldus-fonts - GFS Garaldus majuscule Greek font

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 454128] Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 454128] Review Request: Thibault-fonts - Collection of fonts from thibault.org

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 456084] Review Request: gfs-garaldus-fonts - GFS Garaldus majuscule Greek font

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 456084] Review Request: gfs-garaldus-fonts - GFS Garaldus majuscule Greek font

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
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[Bug 455995] No OpenType

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: No OpenType https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=455995 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2008-07-21 16:23 EST --- I've filed a

[Bug 454967] Review Request: darkgarden-fonts - Dark Garden is a decorative outline font of unusual shape.

2008-07-21 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug report. Summary: Review Request: darkgarden-fonts - Dark Garden is a decorative outline font of unusual shape. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=454967 ---

Re: The goose OpenType eggs holds...

2008-07-21 Thread Vasile Gaburici
I suspect the person that did the work used his employers' (very) non-free software to do the job, and said person is probably at risk of getting fired if found out. But who says we cannot use the result if it is GPL'd. Furthermore, the modification dates of the files inside the archive indicates

[Fwd: the ivory tower and the bazaar]

2008-07-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Message transféré De: Gustavo Ferreira À: fedora-fonts-list-request Sujet: the ivory tower and the bazaar Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:38:59 -0300 On Jul 20, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: If the free/open font scene was striving Red Hat needn't have shelled a lot

Fedora font inclusion timeline

2008-07-21 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Hi, For those interested by a little history, I've added a timeline in the wiki: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fonts_inclusion_history Feel free to correct/complete it. As anyone can check until F9 we weren't very dynamic and spent our time renaming old packages. Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot

Re: Adobe FDK under wine? Or similar FOSS tool?

2008-07-21 Thread Ben Laenen
On Sunday 20 July 2008, Vasile Gaburici wrote: Editing OpenType feature tables with fontforge is a big PITA. Adding a locl table to Linux Libertine, see [https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N/Tasks/Ro_fonts#Linux_Libertine], took me three hours (testing included). And that just for the regular

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Ric Moore
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 22:32 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 04:47 +0200, Björn Persson wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Having said that, my *usage* of the term Linux encompasses any accumulation of software that has a useful purpose and is constructed around a

Re: Script to add launcher to menu panel?

2008-07-21 Thread wwp
Hello Arch, On Sun, 20 Jul 2008 23:56:22 -0400 Arch Willingham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need language to create a script that will create a launcher on the top GNOME menu panel. I have read a ton of stuff and it seems to do with gconftool-2 but I can't find the exact way to do it. Any

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Ric Moore
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 04:57 +, g wrote: Ric Moore wrote: snip When I first started using Linux, I bugged the living heck out of anyone snip fsck themselves while leaving them liking it! :) Ric i am really going to enjoy checking f9 respin. i am going to see what all i can get into

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Gordon Messmer
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Having said that, my *usage* of the term Linux encompasses any accumulation of software that has a useful purpose and is constructed around a Linux kernel. This includes GNU+Linux, X+Linux, Fedora/Debian/Ubuntu/Slackware/etc. and the system that runs my wife's RAZR-2

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Anders Karlsson
* Björn Persson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080721 04:47]: söndagen den 20 juli 2008 skrev Anders Karlsson: [snip] Is it really so hard to grasp that the term Linux can (and does) mean different things depending on context, who you are talking to, and the counterparts technical savvy? It's

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Anders Karlsson
* Gordon Messmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080721 08:29]: [snip] Language doesn't work that way. If you speak, and your listener doesn't understand you, then *you* are the one at fault. [snip] It's not ones fault when there is a misunderstanding, same as it's not ones fault there is an argument

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 21, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed that there is next to no chance for enforcement in such a case, but does your reading of the GPL not indicate that non-GPL distribution of copies of anything ever covered by its work-as-a-whole provision is prohibited? Yep, my

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Ed Greshko
This is more or less a yes or no type of question. And I picked Ric's position in the thread since, I feel, he is least likely to take offense. Is this the semi-annual Fedora diarrhea thread where folks pretend to be lawyers, intellectuals, philosophers, and the like and then talk at each

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 21, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexandre Oliva wrote: Several times, you end up having to decide between promoting software freedom and promoting the software that happens to be Free (and OSS). Yes, the divisive nature of the GPL is unfortunate. FYI, the GPL (and

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 July 2008 04:44:09 Tim wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 00:44 +, g wrote: i am still holding a thread from another list that op seems like she is intentionally ignoring two of my suggestions that may well have cleared her problem. maybe not. i do not know, but i do know i will

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 21, 2008, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please show how something can include any GPL-covered work, yet be distributed under different terms if you insist on claiming that. Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't have to show anything like that. You don't, but why make such a claim

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread aakash sharma
The live CD distros which I have used 1. DyneBolic (best distro for me) 2. Ubuntu (took hell lot of time to boot) 3. Gentoo (couldn't start GUI) 4. DSL (not as good as DyneBolic) See guys, the problem with using LiveCD is that I can't save my data and there is no customization. Every time I

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Anders Karlsson
* Ed Greshko [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20080721 09:25]: This is more or less a yes or no type of question. And I picked Ric's position in the thread since, I feel, he is least likely to take offense. Is this the semi-annual Fedora diarrhea thread where folks pretend to be lawyers, intellectuals

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
On Sun, 2008-07-20 at 23:28 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: Language doesn't work that way. If you speak, and your listener doesn't understand you, then *you* are the one at fault. There's no point in speaking to others except for them to understand your meaning. That is why it is essential

Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9

2008-07-21 Thread Mick M.
Hi; I have an sata dvd/rw that does the same thing. It opens and then closes. The ide/pata one works normally on the same system. Mick M -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
Tim: You see that from time to time (those who ask advice about something they claim they don't understand, but won't accept the advice). Sometimes you wonder if they're trolling, there's plenty of people who get their jollies from deliberately wasting other people's time. Anne Wilson:

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread aakash sharma
See, one of the problems with open source is . THERE'S NO SUPPORT: The not-so-good news is that there's no single source of information. A simple question may result in multiple, conflicting answers with no authoritative source. ... So, when you get tons of help but leading to different

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:29 +0530, aakash sharma wrote: The live CD distros which I have used 1. DyneBolic (best distro for me) 2. Ubuntu (took hell lot of time to boot) 3. Gentoo (couldn't start GUI) 4. DSL (not as good as DyneBolic) See guys, the problem with using LiveCD is that I

Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9

2008-07-21 Thread Mogens Kjaer
Mick M. wrote: Hi; I have an sata dvd/rw that does the same thing. It opens and then closes. Me too. It is very annoying, especially when I burn CD/DVD's. My burn script does an eject, and now after the recent upgrade it reloads and mounts the disk. I have to catch the tray with the left

AMD64 and Scanners

2008-07-21 Thread Oliver Sampson
Howdy, I've just upgraded my Linux system from the motherboard up, and there are just a couple of hic-coughs left to clear up before everthing gets to be hunky-dory. There seems to be a problem with the Avasys drivers and the 64 bit architecture. I'd like to be able to use my scanner, an Epson

Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights

2008-07-21 Thread Gijs
g wrote: Gijs, from looking at headers in your reply, your are using; User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) would you please open your address book and change settings for this list to 'prefers to receive messages formatted as: plain text' also, please remove history that is

Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 9:56 AM, Mogens Kjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have an sata dvd/rw that does the same thing. It opens and then closes. Me too. It is very annoying, especially when I burn CD/DVD's. My burn script does an eject, and now after the recent upgrade it reloads and

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread aakash sharma
My project requires to build an GUI interface with a lot of C-code running in background. It's kind of power saving project. We are doing this on linux coz it's clear and we know where to strike. This can't be done on Windows. But my approach is not just for the project. I said, I want to

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 14:20 +0530, aakash sharma wrote: See, one of the problems with open source is . THERE'S NO SUPPORT: Wrong, wrong, wrong! Firstly, there's support with open source software, just the same as closed source. The commercial RHEL has official support, and is

OCR in Fedora?

2008-07-21 Thread Valent Turkovic
Does anybody do OCR using software available in Fedora? Which ones do you use? How do you use them? I saw an article about OCRopus [1] and how great app it is but there is no ocropus in fedora currently. Cheers, Valent. [1]

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Jul 21, 2008, Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (For the record, Emacs is my favourite editor, before anyone else has a stroke and starts bleating Heresy!!) Heresy! Emacs is not (just) an editor! :-) -- Alexandre Oliva http://www.lsd.ic.unicamp.br/~oliva/ Free Software

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Alexandre Oliva wrote: On Jul 21, 2008, Anders Karlsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (For the record, Emacs is my favourite editor, before anyone else has a stroke and starts bleating Heresy!!) Heresy! Emacs is not (just) an editor! :-) true enough. it's also a floor

Re: OCR in Fedora?

2008-07-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Valent Turkovic wrote: Does anybody do OCR using software available in Fedora? Which ones do you use? How do you use them? I saw an article about OCRopus [1] and how great app it is but there is no ocropus in fedora currently. Cheers, Valent. [1]

Re: OCR in Fedora?

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Smith
2008/7/21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anybody do OCR using software available in Fedora? Which ones do you use? How do you use them? I saw an article about OCRopus [1] and how great app it is but there is no ocropus in fedora currently. [1]

Network Icon

2008-07-21 Thread Oliver Sampson
Howdy, I wanted to change my network card from DHCP to a static IP on my Fedora 9 box. So I did. The network icon (in Gnome) then shows up with an [x] saying the connection is broken. I then changed the DHCP server so that the systme would return a static IP address when queried, yet the network

Re: OCR in Fedora?

2008-07-21 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anybody do OCR using software available in Fedora? Which ones do you use? How do you use them? I saw an article about OCRopus [1] and how great app it is but there is no

Re: Truecrypt on Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Valent Turkovic
On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Tom Horsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:34:01 +0200 Valent Turkovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can truecrypt be included in Fedora? Probably not fedora, but if someone had the energy to maintain it, I bet it could go in the livna repos

Re: bind update keeps messing up write-rights

2008-07-21 Thread g
Gijs wrote: Never really occured to me, but it should be ok now. looks great here. i do thank you. once again, i shall see your needs and words of wisdom. :o) later. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Gordon Messmer wrote: Language doesn't work that way. If you speak, and your listener doesn't understand you, then *you* are the one at fault. There's no point in speaking to others except for them to understand your meaning. That is why it is essential for us all to use words whose

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 July 2008 08:59:57 aakash sharma wrote: The live CD distros which I have used 1. DyneBolic (best distro for me) 2. Ubuntu (took hell lot of time to boot) 3. Gentoo (couldn't start GUI) 4. DSL (not as good as DyneBolic) See guys, the problem with using LiveCD is that I can't

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 July 2008 10:16:16 aakash sharma wrote: My project requires to build an GUI interface with a lot of C-code running in background. It's kind of power saving project. We are doing this on linux coz it's clear and we know where to strike. This can't be done on Windows. But my

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Marcelo M. Garcia
Hi Or you can install Fedora as usual, and install a more lightweight desktop like, xfce or icewm or windowmaker and change your session at gdm. Also helps if one disable a few services. Regards Marcelo Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 21 July 2008 08:59:57 aakash sharma wrote: The live

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 July 2008 09:50:34 aakash sharma wrote: See, one of the problems with open source is . THERE'S NO SUPPORT: The not-so-good news is that there's no single source of information. A simple question may result in multiple, conflicting answers with no authoritative source.

Re: Problem with crontab joblog

2008-07-21 Thread Guillaume
Are you sure the cronjobs are producing output? If there is no output, no email is going to be sent. Sorry for being late to replying to your post... Yes, the script i run produce output. As I describe my problem before, mail are sent when I cronjob are run with root but not with another

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
aakash sharma wrote: I said, I want to switch to Linux as I am fed up of the Window Crashes and bore graphics Everything else you said sounds sensible, but in my experience neither Windows XP nor Fedora 9 crash very often. The difference from my perspective is that if Fedora crashes I am

[OT] Using DNSBL for mail server and clamav to search windows machines

2008-07-21 Thread Vikram Goyal
Hello, I want to use dnsbl to reduce accepting spams. I searched and have zeroed on to SORBS but was thinking of a second opinion of is there a better one which is free to use for my small office. Also I was thinking of using clamav to check windows machines but I could not find any way except

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
aakash sharma: THERE'S NO SUPPORT: Tim: Wrong, wrong, wrong! Robert P. J. Day: there is, of course, the irony of his making this claim on a fedora support mailing list. ;-) It's at this point where I refer to my other message where I said something about users who claim that nobody helps

Re: Minor GNOME and KDE menu annoyance

2008-07-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Rex Dieter wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: But I still find the menu arrangement rather puzzling. Why do I find Paired Bluetooth Devices under Lost and Found? Why is Terminal under System, while Display is under Administration? It's no mystery, and definitely not rocket-science. Apps'

Re: Can't get Linksys Wireless WUB54G working

2008-07-21 Thread Paulo Cavalcanti
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: Fedora 8 i386 2.6.25.10-47.fc8 Linksys WUSB54G wireless 1915:2234 Prism chipset. This WUSB54G worked on another FC8 box but I can't get it to work on this FC8 box, I Installed ndiswrapper and installed the WUSB54G.INF

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
I'll just comment on a few bits of your post. Others will chip in on the bits that they can. aakash sharma: 3. Use a WebServer like Apache You can do that with your PC, no problems. Even less powered PCs. 4. Listen to music files like mp3 and play videos of various formats Music should be

Re: What is the point of the NM keyring?

2008-07-21 Thread Timothy Murphy
Tim wrote: I'm not sure why you'd object to it. Do you also refuse to let programs store passwords? Do you type in your ISP access password each time you connect to the internet? Do you type in your POP/IMAP password each time you read your email? Do you type in your IM passwords each

Re: Network Icon

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 12:22 +0200, Oliver Sampson wrote: I wanted to change my network card from DHCP to a static IP on my Fedora 9 box. So I did. The network icon (in Gnome) then shows up with an [x] saying the connection is broken. I then changed the DHCP server so that the systme would

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread g
Ric Moore wrote: snip Ha! Join the club! i thought i had. blag I'll never catch up! But, that's the good part! if i ever do, i will know something is wrong. best part. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread g
Tim wrote and aakash sharma wrote: snip The live CD distros which I have used 1. DyneBolic (best distro for me) 2. Ubuntu (took hell lot of time to boot) 3. Gentoo (couldn't start GUI) 4. DSL (not as good as DyneBolic) See guys, the problem with using LiveCD is that I can't save my data

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Anne Wilson
On Monday 21 July 2008 12:05:50 Marcelo M. Garcia wrote: Hi Or you can install Fedora as usual, and install a more lightweight desktop like, xfce or icewm or windowmaker and change your session at gdm. Also helps if one disable a few services. The only time I tried xfce I found it no better

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Vikram Goyal
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 04:35:47PM -0400, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: aakash sharma wrote: Hi Anne Thanks for the advice and help I just can't upgrade my RAM at least for 9 months. Then set up a swap partition (or at least a swap file) in order to start swapping. Without it, you are just

Re: What is the point of the NM keyring?

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 13:47 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote: But I still find NM's request for a password very annoying. WiFi is my link to the Real World, and I just want it to start up when I log in. Actually I have Fedora set up to log me in automatically without password. That may be your

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread Tim
g: all livecds that i have used allow you to save customization and data to a floppy, usb 'whatever', or to a hard drive Tim: But it's not exactly easy to do, why not? It's going to depend on various things. The live CDs I've tried in the past didn't let me save customisations, I've had

Re: AMD64 and Scanners

2008-07-21 Thread g
Oliver Sampson wrote: Howdy, I've just upgraded my Linux system from the motherboard up, congratulations. and there are just a couple of hic-coughs left to clear up before everthing gets to be hunky-dory. so now it is time to 'pat it on back a little harder'. There seems to be a problem

Re: Fedora 9 and VMWare Server

2008-07-21 Thread Alex Katebi
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:36 AM, Claude Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun July 20 2008, Alex Katebi wrote: http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ Install the vmware tools first. Then go to the above web site and download install the open-vm-tools. Let me know if you have any

Re: Fedora 9 and VMWare Server

2008-07-21 Thread Christopher A. Williams
On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 00:36 -0400, Claude Jones wrote: On Sun July 20 2008, Alex Katebi wrote: http://open-vm-tools.sourceforge.net/ Install the vmware tools first. Then go to the above web site and download install the open-vm-tools. Let me know if you have any peoblems. I have

Re: Minor GNOME and KDE menu annoyance

2008-07-21 Thread Rex Dieter
Timothy Murphy wrote: Rex Dieter wrote: Timothy Murphy wrote: But I still find the menu arrangement rather puzzling. Why do I find Paired Bluetooth Devices under Lost and Found? Why is Terminal under System, while Display is under Administration? It's no mystery, and definitely not

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Depending on whether you're guided by FS or OSS values, you'll tend to consistently choose one in detriment of the other. Yes, that is unfortunate, but you have to live with it to promote FOSS. This is fundamentally contradictory. If you have to choose between

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-21 Thread Ed Greshko
Les Mikesell wrote: Not at all. The more choices you have the better. You can only go forward. I keep telling my wife that But she doesn't buy it. -- fedora-list mailing list fedora-list@redhat.com To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-list

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Mamoru Tasaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is Kdict? I have tried # yum search kdict [...] Warning: No matches found for: kdict No Matches found # Any ideas? Try # yum whatprovides \*kdict Thanks, Mamoru (and John), but nothing relevant is returned

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread max
Kevin J. Cummings wrote: Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Mon, 2008-07-21 at 02:28 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Kevin J. Cummings wrote: In general, if you don't know what you are doing then maybe Linux isn't for you? Oh please. Can you avoid that elitist attitude? There are new comers to Linux

Re: Firefox update problem

2008-07-21 Thread Micko
Hello! I'm also stuck in this and get a lot of new dependency problems for i386 on my X86_64 FC9. I don't understand if I suddenly need all these i386 packages now or if that is what's broken? I do remember having to install some i386 to get flash going. Is this going to be fixed or do I

Re: I need help with Fedora

2008-07-21 Thread max
aakash sharma wrote: The live CD distros which I have used 1. DyneBolic (best distro for me) 2. Ubuntu (took hell lot of time to boot) 3. Gentoo (couldn't start GUI) 4. DSL (not as good as DyneBolic) See guys, the problem with using LiveCD is that I can't save my data and there is no

Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?

2008-07-21 Thread g
just to let you know... Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: snip Yes. See also http://noscript.net/ trying to get my 'round2it' to roll that far. I have it enabled by default, and selectively allow scripts on trusted pages. You can also allow scripts temporarily i.e. only for the current session.

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson
Björn Persson wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote: For other discussions, being more specific will actually make the discussion harder. I don't see how using terms that are too generic would make discussing easier. If you mean using terms that are more specific than intended, then that's of

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread g
Paul Smith wrote: snip It seems that kdict is no longer available on Fedora. Does somebody know why? you have something wrong some where. i tried it to see what would happen and it did work. -- tc,hago. g . in a free world without fences, who needs gates. -- fedora-list mailing list

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread g
g wrote: Paul Smith wrote: snip It seems that kdict is no longer available on Fedora. Does somebody know why? you have something wrong some where. i tried it to see what would happen and it did work. after thought. not sure if i used '\*kdict' or '*kdict'. -- tc,hago. g . in a free

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread Paul Smith
On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that kdict is no longer available on Fedora. Does somebody know why? you have something wrong some where. i tried it to see what would happen and it did work. Then, please tell me which package contains kdict. Paul --

Re: that old GNU/Linux argument

2008-07-21 Thread Björn Persson
Tim wrote: The majority will understand Linux as being an OS, the whole thing, one of the many OS distros that are similar to each other (*), but not understand it as referring to just the kernel. And then you'll hear arguments like You think Windows is bloated? Linux is *much* worse! Look,

Re: OCR in Fedora?

2008-07-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Valent Turkovic wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Paul Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/7/21 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anybody do OCR using software available in Fedora? Which ones do you use? How do you use them? I saw an article about OCRopus [1] and how great app

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread g
Paul Smith wrote: snip Then, please tell me which package contains kdict. wish i could. i did not save output. will try it again and save output this time. [will be in about an hour before i can get to it] as i said in 'after thought', maybe you should try without '\'. -- tc,hago. g .

Re: Why is Fedora not a Free GNU/Linux distributions?

2008-07-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexandre Oliva wrote: Please show how something can include any GPL-covered work, yet be distributed under different terms if you insist on claiming that. Rahul Sundaram wrote: I don't have to show anything like that. You don't, but why make such a claim when you obviously can't back

Re: Current Respin for F9, or how to build updated F9 live dvd on an F7 system?

2008-07-21 Thread Todd Denniston
Bruno Wolff III wrote, On 07/19/2008 03:48 PM: On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 10:59:57 -0400, Todd Denniston [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course the alternative would include having a USB hard drive with a mirror of fedora/linux/updates/9/arch on it, but that means you still have to install the old

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread Nigel Henry
On Monday 21 July 2008 15:21, Paul Smith wrote: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 2:20 PM, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems that kdict is no longer available on Fedora. Does somebody know why? you have something wrong some where. i tried it to see what would happen and it did work. Then,

32 bit Java app on 64 bit Linux

2008-07-21 Thread Steve Dowe
Hi, I'm trying to run Zend Studio (32 bit) on fedora 9 x84_64, but am coming across a problem with network access. Specifically, when Zend starts up it can perform an update check, but this fails almost immediately with a useless message (the server could not be contacted). I suspect that I

Re: Where is Kdict?

2008-07-21 Thread Mamoru Tasaka
Paul Smith wrote, at 07/21/2008 09:58 PM +9:00: On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 3:40 AM, Mamoru Tasaka [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where is Kdict? I have tried # yum search kdict [...] Warning: No matches found for: kdict No Matches found # Any ideas? Try # yum whatprovides \*kdict Thanks, Mamoru

Re: 32 bit Java app on 64 bit Linux

2008-07-21 Thread Andrew Overholt
* Steve Dowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-07-21 10:03]: I'm trying to run Zend Studio (32 bit) on fedora 9 x84_64, but am coming across a problem with network access. Specifically, when Zend starts up it can perform an update check, but this fails almost immediately with a useless message (the

Re: Problems ejecting cd/dvd media on F9

2008-07-21 Thread Andre Costa
Hi, On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 16:04, g [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paul Smith wrote: snip It happens either if manually eject the media (directly on the cd-rom drive) or if I right click the drive icon and choose eject. That is a bug, Andre. See:

Re: Fedora 9 and VMWare Server

2008-07-21 Thread Claude Jones
On Mon July 21 2008, Alex Katebi wrote: What advantage are you gaining by doing things that way? My vm's run just fine the way I'm doing it now - what improvement should I expect by learning the method you suggest? I thought that you were encountering errors by running the vmware tools

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