[Fink-devel] Install location for non-standard libraries?

2003-01-10 Thread Dustin Sias
I have several packages that have very generally named header files. i.e. uw-imap-c-client which is not using autoconf, and cpdflib. I can install the library in /sw/lib and the header file in /sw/include but with names like misc.h this could be a problem. I would like to install to a

Re: [Fink-devel] FAW Q1.5: Then why did you choose /sw? -- Howabout /usr/local/fink?

2003-01-10 Thread Max Horn
At 20:04 Uhr -0500 09.01.2003, Jason Deraleau wrote: My vote is for /opt/fink. Just to clarify this, there is nothing to vote on here. There are no serious reasons to abandon /sw, but many good reasons not to do it - one of them being backward compatibility, we don't want to force 99% of

[Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Jared
Hi. I have a package which currently creates a file outside /sw. It adds a file to /etc/xinetd.d/ so your computer acts as a POP3 server so you can get Hotmail in any e-mail client. The person who is looking over my package isn't sure about my modifying outside /sw but in an effort to keep

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Christian Schaffner
On Freitag, Januar 10, 2003, at 02:29 Uhr, Jared wrote: On an unrelated note (because I don't want to join another mailing list to ask this), I got an error while installing gimp (fink install gimp). I am using Apple's X11 so with the many choices at the beginning of installation, I chose to

[Fink-devel] Package DB broken?

2003-01-10 Thread Christian Schaffner
http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/index.php currently shows The database was last updated at 08:37 GMT on Friday, January 10 and currently lists 24 packages in 22 sections. Why only 24? What's happening there? --- This SF.NET email is

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Jared
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 08:59 AM, David R. Morrison wrote: Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. I have a package which currently creates a file outside /sw. It adds a file to /etc/xinetd.d/ so your computer acts as a POP3 server so you can get Hotmail in any e-mail client. The person

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Jeremy Erwin
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:45 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 11:38 AM, David wrote: I did offer that as well. I am also still talking to the fink.info owner and they do not seem too reluctant on sponsoring the domain. Neither money nor resources seem to be

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Alexander Hansen
On Fri, 2003-01-10 at 14:09, David R. Morrison wrote: snip fink.net seems to belong to netidentity.com, and there is one registered node, namely http://Rat.Fink.net . So this would seem to be out. (I'm not sure that I can explain to a non-American what ratfink means...) Hint: it's not a

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 03:17 pm, Jared wrote: What does Fink's daemonic package do? I'm not familiar with it. Last i checked, it managed a load of startupitem bundles in /Library/StartupItems (can you say, ick?). -- Finlay

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
I agree fink.info would rule but it's taken so we need an other, what about finkhq.info? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did offer that as well. I am also still talking to the fink.info owner and they do not seem too reluctant on sponsoring the domain. Neither money nor resources seem to be the

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
if this is the case then fink.org is the logical choice [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know one should never shed critique without offering a better solution. I have no better solution but I know that I will go and register finkdocu.org finkdevel.org -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Christian Schaffner
Even if I am not a core devel team member let me add a few comments: I agree with David that I don't like the 'hq'. To me it doesn't mean a thing. I personally would vote for fink.info or fink.org or even fink.net (we are a 'network' of developers, no?) That's it. On Freitag, Januar 10, 2003,

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Max Horn
At 19:47 Uhr + 10.01.2003, Finlay Dobbie wrote: On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 03:17 pm, Jared wrote: What does Fink's daemonic package do? I'm not familiar with it. Last i checked, it managed a load of startupitem bundles in /Library/StartupItems (can you say, ick?). I can say it,

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Max Horn
Just to avoid some confusion: none of the various www.fink.* seems to be available. No .net, .com. org, .de, .info, etc. so forget about those! finkhq seems to be something very US centric. I guess HQ stands for head quarter ? In any case, not many people from here would associate it with

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
I suggested hq because I found xinehq.de and mplayerhq.de, so I thought it was a de thing :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: finkhq seems to be something very US centric. I guess HQ stands for head quarter ? In any case, not many people from here would associate it with that immediatly. And it

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
I think everyone will vote for fink.info but it's NOT avail not sure about fink.net but fink.org is avail ATM and this is discussion is for all, I just wanted to get the core teams attention at least :P [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I agree with David that I don't like the 'hq'. To me it doesn't

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Kris Foster
http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink. Kris On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Justin Hallett wrote: I think everyone will vote for fink.info but it's NOT avail not sure about fink.net but fink.org is avail ATM and this is discussion is for all, I just wanted to get the core

Re: [Fink-devel] Package DB broken?

2003-01-10 Thread Ben Hines
This was just asked last week, and i answered. If one more person asks i'm adding it to the faq. -Ben On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 06:53 AM, Christian Schaffner wrote: http://fink.sourceforge.net/pdb/index.php currently shows The database was last updated at 08:37 GMT on Friday, January

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
or create a startup item for xinetd, it seems to me I remember having to do this to test proftpd with xinetd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What do you mean by startup items are more preferred? Should I somehow create a startup item for hotway instead of using xinetd and if so, how would I do that?

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Jason Deraleau
On my machine, inetd is running rather thatn xinetd. So are you sure that this would actually work? Because you have no services for it. It checks at boot time. (see your console.log) inetd is obsolete, xinetd comes with Jaguar and is preferred (though startup items are more preferred)

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Jason Deraleau
or create a startup item for xinetd, it seems to me I remember having to do this to test proftpd with xinetd. -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst xinetd is started by /System/Library/StartupItems/IPServices/IPServices. As long as it has an active service it will load at boot. inetd

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Ben Hines
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 01:01 PM, Jason Deraleau wrote: Now, if we could just figure out why Apple didn't remove the inetd line from /System/Library/IPServices/IPServices... Because, as i said, inetd is OBSOLETE. xinetd is its replacement. -Ben

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
tha tis it, looks very familiar :) [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Now, if we could just figure out why Apple didn't remove the inetd line from /System/Library/IPServices/IPServices... -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Justin Hallett
as max noted I'm working on adding xinetd support to daemonic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm curious, perhaps Fink could standardize a location in the /sw/etc directory, perhaps /sw/etc/xinetd.d and then just add a line to /etc/xinetd.conf that says IncludeDir /sw/etc/xinetd.d? This would

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread David R. Morrison
On Jan 10,2003 12:19:30 -0600, Kris Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink. Kris It's kind of cool, actually... He has done Mac OS 9 development, and he has a link to our project at the bottom of his page. fink.net seems to belong to

[Fink-devel] PHP maintainer

2003-01-10 Thread Gen Kiyooka
Hi, I'm interested in possibly maintaining PHP for fink. I need to know what's expected of the maintainer. Or is it just a best-efforts kind of thang. Gen Kiyooka --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition +

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Alexander Strange
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Justin Hallett wrote: what about finkhq both de and com are avail... finkhq.de was my first though since both Chris and Max are from de it seems only right to honor them and there country. or finkhq.com it we want to be in the .com I think .org is

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Jim White
Justin Hallett wrote: I suggested hq because I found xinehq.de and mplayerhq.de, so I thought it was a de thing :) And there's winehq.com + winehq.org too. I think finkhq.* is not a bad choice and doesn't suffer the problem of compound word names where when you say it you also have to clarify

Re: [Fink-devel] Can I modify outside /sw?

2003-01-10 Thread Finlay Dobbie
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 08:17 pm, Max Horn wrote: Last i checked, it managed a load of startupitem bundles in /Library/StartupItems (can you say, ick?). I can say it, but I don't know why you would say it, how about elaborating? Mixing daemonic-managed startup items with

Re: [Fink-devel] PHP maintainer

2003-01-10 Thread Ben Hines
On Friday, January 10, 2003, at 02:28 PM, Gen Kiyooka wrote: Hi, I'm interested in possibly maintaining PHP for fink. I need to know what's expected of the maintainer. Or is it just a best-efforts kind of thang. Someone on IRC keeps saying they will update our php package, but they

Re: [Fink-devel] domain, need reply from key team at very least

2003-01-10 Thread Jim White
David R. Morrison wrote: On Jan 10,2003 12:19:30 -0600, Kris Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote : http://www.fink.org/ seems to be the property of a Mr. A. Fink. Kris It's kind of cool, actually... He has done Mac OS 9 development, and he has a link to our project at the bottom of his page.

[Fink-devel] perl 5.8 thoughts and testing

2003-01-10 Thread Benjamin Reed
So the subject of perl 5.8 came up again on #fink, and I started taking a look at what we had. Chris Dolan put together a great package for perl 5.8, but it has one problem -- it still puts everything in /sw/lib/perl5 just like our 5.6 packages. The problem is perl 5.6 modules are not

Re: [Fink-devel] perl 5.8 thoughts and testing

2003-01-10 Thread Benjamin Reed
FYI, David Morrison and I talked about this some more in #fink, and there is more to think about. 1) is trying to find a way to transition (perhaps /sw/lib/perl/5.6 and /sw/lib/perl/5.8 ?), and 2) is making things clean bootstrap-wise. There was post from Fred Sanchez with some ideas on doing

Re: [Fink-devel] perl 5.8 thoughts and testing

2003-01-10 Thread David R. Morrison
Here are a few relevant posts: http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg87083.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg06039.html and, someone who implemented this, more or less... http://maikimo.net/radio/stories/2002/11/23/buildingperl580modperlapac.html We also need to look at the standard instructions for

[Fink-devel] How about web.fink.org?

2003-01-10 Thread Jim White
I got in touch with my friend Andeas Fink, long time owner of the fink.org domain. He is an even longer time Mac user and is willing to provide DNS for a host in the fink.org domain with we like (except www of course!). Some suggestions: web.fink.org home.fink.org project.fink.org

Re: [Fink-devel] How about web.fink.org?

2003-01-10 Thread Kris Foster
project.fink.org has a nice ring to it :) On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jim White wrote: I got in touch with my friend Andeas Fink, long time owner of the fink.org domain. He is an even longer time Mac user and is willing to provide DNS for a host in the fink.org domain with we like (except www of