Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Peter Martinez
From G3PLX: From what Ahti says, there is not a 1/f problem with the current SDR1000, which is what I found with the earlier version, but the oscillator radiation effect may or may not still be there. In the last topic I raised, concerning 24 bit soundcards, I speculated that the 'ideal' ADC

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Larry Loen
Sami Aintila wrote: Peter, I am seeing all kinds of nasty crud around DC, and so are many other SDR-1000 users. On some systems - maybe with some sound cards - maybe with better grounding - the problem is not very prominent. But for optimal (receiver) performance it's always safer to operate at

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Brickle
Peter Martinez wrote: ...poor (or missing) DC coupling...really is not a problem... As a generalization, I believe this is untrue. 73 Frank AB2KT ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] 16 versus 24 bit audio

2006-05-22 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Hello Flexers, I am in route back from Dayton where was so good to see many of you our customers and to have many more join in the fun. I do want to add a couple of points that have been missed here. Virtually all professional audio cards use +4 dBu as the nominal input level. 0 dBu is 1 mW

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Alberto I2PHD
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Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Gerald Youngblood
Hello Flexers, Let me clarify. Eric1 set up our laptop demo in the Dayton booth for NA9F, who sent at up to 50 WPM per his email to me this morning. Eric set the Firebox to 96 KHz sampling and 6 ms latency. The report from Ron was that he noticed some latency but not a showstopper for me.

Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
I haven't heard of this particular issue. Are you sure it is frequency dependant, or could it be happening on other bands but it just sounds different because of the mode/filter selections? Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread Thompson_Peter
I meant to comment earlier on this: I definitely see (hear) this also. It is definitely not an issue on 20m, possibly not on 17m, but almost certainly occurs on 15m and any of the higher frequency bands. Definite click on each mouse wheel step. Doesn't seem to hurt any thing - radio tunes just

Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread Thompson_Peter
Ken, No, it's not a USB mouse. I guess it can't hurt to try some ferrites though. Pete -Original Message- From: Ken N9VV [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 2:19 PM To: Thompson, Peter Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
Let me qualify that by saying there is no latency in the monitor audio when you use and external keyer. What goes out over the air is still a few milliseconds behind what you hear. It's also worth noting that the truth is that the SDR-1000 is not (and never will be without hardware changes) a

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
Let me give you the skinny right from the horses mouth. Here's what I did: I was using a laptop (P4 ~2GHz) with a FireBox. I set the FireBox to 6ms on the FireBox control panel. This could probably go lower on a more powerful machine. I then set the PowerSDR buffers to 512 for the Audio and

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Jim Lux
At 02:05 AM 5/22/2006, Peter Martinez wrote: From G3PLX: Jim's point about poor (or missing) DC coupling probably crossed with my answer to Frank. It really is not a problem. Jim mentioned clock noise again, and I have to say I haven't studied this at all, but my understanding is that it is a

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: Let me give you the skinny right from the horses mouth. Here's what I did: I was using a laptop (P4 ~2GHz) with a FireBox. I set the FireBox to 6ms on the FireBox control panel. This could probably go lower on a more powerful machine. I then set the

Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Alberto I2PHD
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Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Alberto I2PHD
James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Just out of curiosity, what is the real reason for the latency? I use Linux, and users can get high quality, reliable 2ms latency on a very modest PC. That 2ms latency is with a Linux application called Ardour, that users use for real time audio capture, effects

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Jim Lux
At 02:03 PM 5/22/2006, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: Let me give you the skinny right from the horses mouth. Here's what I did: snipped data about short buffers, fast computers, etc. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems Just out of curiosity, what is

[Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread root [knesbitt]
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Re: [Flexradio] Zero IF SDR

2006-05-22 Thread Peter Martinez
From G3PLX: Alberto: Thanks for your input! The peak in the centre of the spectrum plot you showed at http://sundry.i2phd.com/zeropeak.gif is certainly the small DC offset of the ADC's in the Delta 44. The Zero-IF software would remove this of course. It can be done automatically, it doesn't

Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread Jack Weber
Eric, Thanks for your response. Since I sent my last email, I've checked this out some more and what I find is that the click occurs on every 1 kHz step with Spur Reduction OFF and every 3 kHz with Spur Reduction ON. If I reduce the step to 100 Hz it happens at those same frequency

Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio
Jack, Now we're getting somewhere. :) What you are hearing is the DDS retuning. When this happens, you get a glitch in the audio. The reason you only hear it every 3.051kHz when Spur Reduction is on is because we only retune the DDS every 3.051kHz in that algorithm (fine tuning is done in

Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread Jack Weber
Thanks, Eric. Yes that figures. What seemed puzzling was that without Spur Reduction it wasn't clicking on every tuning step - like 100 Hz for example. OK, I'll learn to live with it. Thanks again, Jack On 22 May 2006, at 23:22, Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio wrote: Jack, Now we're

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Alberto I2PHD wrote: James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Just out of curiosity, what is the real reason for the latency? I use Linux, and users can get high quality, reliable 2ms latency on a very modest PC. That 2ms latency is with a Linux application called Ardour, that users use for real time

[Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Jimmy Jones
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Re: [Flexradio] Tuning Clicks

2006-05-22 Thread N3EVL
E I think (hope) Eric was simply announcing that he has identified that the clicks are related to the DDS tuning. I don't think he's thrown in the towel just yet. I'd still like to know why this hasn't been reported before (are others hearing it too) and if there is a solution. Seems

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Frank Brickle
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[Flexradio] Placing 22khz image in order of magnitude

2006-05-22 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
It would be helpful if someone could tell me about the degree that an image comes through in a properly adjusted SDR1000 setup? The following is an entirely plausible situation at an existing contest station. 40m, listening on 5 ele quad to NE suspended from and spaced across 170' of

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Robert McGwier
I completely concur. The external keyer, with PTT controlled by the keyer and internal delay of dot/dash without delay on sidetone and with PowerSDR semi-breakin turned off, is optimal for this radio. Thanks to Kirb's input on a bug which was fixed before the last release, I think we

[Flexradio] Dayton

2006-05-22 Thread Robert McGwier
http://n4hy.smugmug.com/gallery/1477953 -- AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged! ___

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
Experience from use of existing radios... The FT1000MP for CW has a bucket brigade delay for CW that can be set to x milliseconds between 0 and 30. When the key is hit, if assert transmit state to the amplifier is not already on, it is asserted immediately. The actual CW power is delayed for x

Re: [Flexradio] Cw Latency Problem Solved?

2006-05-22 Thread root [knesbitt]
As well, if your running with an amp and have the X2-7 delay set too high (long delay), you will in effect, self-flagellate (is that a word?) yourself trying to run high-speed cw with fast break-in. Using either the internal or external keyer with semi-break-in enabled, the first character

Re: [Flexradio] Placing 22khz image in order of magnitude

2006-05-22 Thread David Woodhead
Guy, Here is my experience; The image may be nulled to about -80dBc at a fixed frequency but it will degrade either side of this (to about -70dBc at +/- 4KHz). You can certainly hear the image if it is strong enough. The present software only supports one set of quadrature balance and IQ gain