Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG Racing Course

2003-07-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
WillyB wrote: Here are all the files you need, there is a README in the Scenery directory which basically explains where to put things. (they all go in the same dir.) http://24.121.17.106/fgfs/air-racing/fg-race-course.23Q.tar.gz ( 8 k file ) I am getting a 401 (forbidden) HTTP error trying

[Flightgear-devel] Duck!

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Bytheway
Duck! Incoming Slashdotting! http://games.slashdot.org/games/03/07/23/1837201.shtml?tid=127tid=186tid=206 X-plane got written up, there are a couple of links to FlightGear in the first 20 posts. Richard ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG Racing Course

2003-07-24 Thread WillyB
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 23:54, Frederic Bouvier wrote: WillyB wrote: Here are all the files you need, there is a README in the Scenery directory which basically explains where to put things. (they all go in the same dir.)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FG Racing Course

2003-07-24 Thread WillyB
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 23:54, Frederic Bouvier wrote: WillyB wrote: Here are all the files you need, there is a README in the Scenery directory which basically explains where to put things. (they all go in the same dir.)

[Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Hi, I am trying to model the A320 flaps. I has 5 positions but in the keyboard or joystick bindings, each time I hit the flap down button, /controls/flight/flaps is increased by rawly 1/3, leading to only four possibilities. Would it be possible to make the increment aircraft dependant, instead

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Erik Hofman
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi, I am trying to model the A320 flaps. I has 5 positions but in the keyboard or joystick bindings, each time I hit the flap down button, /controls/flight/flaps is increased by rawly 1/3, leading to only four possibilities. Would it be possible to make the increment

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi, I am trying to model the A320 flaps. I has 5 positions but in the keyboard or joystick bindings, each time I hit the flap down button, /controls/flight/flaps is increased by rawly 1/3, leading to only four possibilities. Would it be

[Flightgear-devel] 747 Panel Feedback

2003-07-24 Thread James Turner
A few comments, after playing with the 747 panel a bit more. Firstly, I'd just like to say how amazing it is, given the non-impact on the frame-rates, smoothness and clarity of the text, and so on. It's just lovely. Now, on with the nit-picking. Note many things I'm going to suggest probably

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread David Culp
... Would it be possible to make the increment aircraft dependant, instead of global ( I need here of a 0.25 increment ) ? I add this to the -set file for the 737: input !-- set 10% flap adjustment with each detent -- keyboard key n=91 name[/name descDecrease flaps./desc

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
David Culp wrote: ... Would it be possible to make the increment aircraft dependant, instead of global ( I need here of a 0.25 increment ) ? I add this to the -set file for the 737: [snip] Thank you David. That do it. Could you explain the syntax of the part in the jsbsim config

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 10:19 schrieb Jon Stockill: Heads down guys - we just got another mention on slashdot :-) http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1837201 In the article i read the following: In fact, flight characteristics are calculated in real time from aircraft

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread David Culp
Could you explain the syntax of the part in the jsbsim config file : COMPONENT NAME=Flaps Control TYPE=KINEMAT INPUTfcs/flap-cmd-norm DETENTS 9 00 14 24

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:17, Frederic Bouvier wrote: David Culp wrote: ... Would it be possible to make the increment aircraft dependant, instead of global ( I need here of a 0.25 increment ) ? I add this to the -set file for the 737: [snip] Thank you David. That do it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Erik Hofman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 10:19 schrieb Jon Stockill: Heads down guys - we just got another mention on slashdot :-) http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1837201 In the article i read the following: In fact, flight characteristics are calculated in real

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:17, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Could you explain the syntax of the part in the jsbsim config file : COMPONENT NAME=Flaps Control TYPE=KINEMAT INPUTfcs/flap-cmd-norm DETENTS 9 00

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread David Culp
COMPONENT NAME=Flaps Control TYPE=KINEMAT INPUTfcs/flap-cmd-norm DETENTS 9 00 14 24 53 10 3

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Tony Peden
--- David Culp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: COMPONENT NAME=Flaps Control TYPE=KINEMAT INPUTfcs/flap-cmd-norm DETENTS 9 00 14 24 53

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Matevz Jekovec
Erik Hofman wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 10:19 schrieb Jon Stockill: Heads down guys - we just got another mention on slashdot :-) http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1837201 In the article i read the following: In fact, flight characteristics

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In the article i read the following: In fact, flight characteristics are calculated in real time from aircraft design data, not static tables like MS Flight Simulator. What way does Flightgear use? Static tables or real time calculations or something other?

[Flightgear-devel] Unsubscribed....

2003-07-24 Thread Jon Stockill
I've just been unsubscribed from this list for too many bounces, now I've had warnings from the list server before, reply to the message and it unfreezes your subscription, the problem is it doesn't include the damn bounce message, so I can't work out where the problem might be - I've not had a

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] fix yasim bug kelvin to fahrenheitconversion

2003-07-24 Thread Jim Wilson
This fixes the K to F conversion for the EGT output. http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/yasim-kelvin.diff Best, Jim ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Erik Hofman
Matevz Jekovec wrote: Erik Hofman wrote: YASim: runtime aircraft characteristics JSBSim/UIUC: static tables Erik I know Falcon 4.0 is pretty poor when talking about phisics. It uses only primitive static tables, but these are very worked on though. FlightGear is way much better on this one!

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 Panel Feedback

2003-07-24 Thread Jim Wilson
James Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Now, on with the nit-picking. Note many things I'm going to suggest probably require some level of C++ coding (even if it's just exposing more properties), and given sufficient arm-twisting I might even look at them myself. I've looked over the panel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 747 Panel Feedback

2003-07-24 Thread James Turner
Are you talking about the xml files for 3d animation? The objects refered to in the xml are specific polys on the display. For example the apalt1 on the PDF might refer to the first digit on the AP Altitude setting display, apalt2 the second digit. For the most part they are numbered right

[Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
I passed my instrument flight test this morning -- thank you all for the positive karma you sent my way. We did the test in the real thing, hard-core IFR with a 400 ft ceiling and rain. My visual contact with the ground during the entire test was probably less than two minutes. A narrative

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Michael Selig
At 7/24/03, Oliver C. wrote: Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 10:19 schrieb Jon Stockill: Heads down guys - we just got another mention on slashdot :-) http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1837201 In the article i read the following: In fact, flight characteristics are calculated in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Matt Fienberg
Congratulations! Had no doubts... For an IFR interested VFR student, what's an MDA, and what does it mean to bust it by 20 ft? I'd guess at minimum designated altitude? Maybe if I ask enough questions, I'll have you on the road to CFI/CFII... ;) -Matt David Megginson wrote: I passed my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Christopher S Horler
I enjoy reading this kind of thing, Congratulations - I'm sure this is a milestone for everyone who undertakes such a test. Chris On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 18:11, David Megginson wrote: I passed my instrument flight test this morning -- thank you all for the positive karma you sent my way. We

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Matt Fienberg
David Megginson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What way does Flightgear use? Static tables or real time calculations or something other? Both, sort-of. Unlike X-Plane, FlightGear does not limit you to a single type of physics engine. JSBSim works with static coefficients, and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Matt Fienberg writes: David Megginson wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What way does Flightgear use? Static tables or real time calculations or something other? Both, sort-of. Unlike X-Plane, FlightGear does not limit you to a single type of physics engine. JSBSim works

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
Matt Fienberg writes: For an IFR interested VFR student, what's an MDA, and what does it mean to bust it by 20 ft? I'd guess at minimum designated altitude? MDA is Minimum Descent Altitude. Non-precision approaches (such as NDB, VOR, LOC, LOC-BC, and GPS) provide only horizontal course

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: YASim airplanes start flying really crappy if you try to go inverted. If you don't believe me, just try taking the 747 on 100' AGL inverted pass over SFO. :-) Curt's joking, of course, but it's worth noting that any aircraft with positive dihedral is going to be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Matt Fienberg
Thanks for the explanation, David. From everything I've heard so far about IFR flying, it's a game of Simon Says. And Simon's on various frequencies that you need to keep up with. David Megginson wrote: Matt Fienberg writes: For an IFR interested VFR student, what's an MDA, and what does

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
Matt Fienberg writes: Thanks for the explanation, David. From everything I've heard so far about IFR flying, it's a game of Simon Says. And Simon's on various frequencies that you need to keep up with. It's actually fairly easy when you're being vectored -- ATC says turn left to 160 and

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
David Megginson writes: It's actually fairly easy when you're being vectored -- ATC says turn left to 160 and you turn left to 160; ATC says not below 2000 feet and you descend to 2000; etc. The hard part is when they put you on your own: cleared to the Gatineau airport for an approach,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
Curtis L. Olson writes: It also sounds like another big portion of the training is learning how the instruments work at a very detailed level. This gives you an understanding of the types of sensing errors you might see and under what circumstances. Yes, but the funny part is that you

[Flightgear-devel] Re: Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Alex Perry
From: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I passed my instrument flight test this morning Congratulations! ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

[Flightgear-devel] Congrats! David...

2003-07-24 Thread Ken Shaffer
David - Congrats! In the states, anyway, the IFR ride is the hardest. I am working on my CFII right now, so I should know. Fly on Down to OSH next week to celebrate! Ken ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[Flightgear-devel] Gear set-up problems

2003-07-24 Thread Lee Elliott
Hello All, I think I've found a bit of a problem with the way that u/c gear is being defined. In the preferences file there's a single gear entry with three wheel entries to handle the brakes. While this is fine for light a/c with fixed gear, it doesn't work right with larger a/c with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Jim Wilson
Michael Selig [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: At 7/24/03, Oliver C. wrote: Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 10:19 schrieb Jon Stockill: Heads down guys - we just got another mention on slashdot :-) http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1837201 In the article i read the following:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 05:19, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:17, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Could you explain the syntax of the part in the jsbsim config file : COMPONENT NAME=Flaps Control TYPE=KINEMAT INPUTfcs/flap-cmd-norm

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 10:14, Michael Selig wrote: At 7/24/03, Oliver C. wrote: Am Donnerstag, 24. Juli 2003 10:19 schrieb Jon Stockill: Heads down guys - we just got another mention on slashdot :-) http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/07/23/1837201 In the article i read the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Jim Wilson
Curtis L. Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: YASim airplanes start flying really crappy if you try to go inverted. If you don't believe me, just try taking the 747 on 100' AGL inverted pass over SFO. :-) You can lose your ticket for that! Actually that isn't really true. The A4 will fly all

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Curtis L. Olson writes: YASim airplanes start flying really crappy if you try to go inverted. If you don't believe me, just try taking the 747 on 100' AGL inverted pass over SFO. :-) Curt's joking, of course, but it's worth noting that any

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Unsubscribed....

2003-07-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:26:19 +0100 (BST), Jon Stockill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I've just been unsubscribed from this list for too many bounces, now I've had warnings from the list server before, reply to the message and it unfreezes your subscription, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Gear set-up problems

2003-07-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 24 July 2003 22:15, Lee Elliott wrote: Hello All, I think I've found a bit of a problem with the way that u/c gear is being defined. In the preferences file there's a single gear entry with three wheel entries to handle the brakes. While this is fine for light a/c with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 25 July 2003 01:12, Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 05:19, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Tony Peden wrote: On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 04:17, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Could you explain the syntax of the part in the jsbsim config file : COMPONENT NAME=Flaps Control

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 17:13:49 -0400, David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Curtis L. Olson writes: So should I add a claim to our home page that 100% of people using FlightGear as part of their IFR training have passed their test on the first try? Or

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 25 July 2003 01:19, Jim Wilson wrote: David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Curtis L. Olson writes: YASim airplanes start flying really crappy if you try to go inverted. If you don't believe me, just try taking the 747 on 100' AGL inverted pass over SFO. :-)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 23:39:24 -, Jim Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: What happens if you do or don't turn on that carb heat? ..iceing. -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-) ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
Jim Wilson writes: My boss files IFR most of the time but rarely starts a flight in anything but VFR conditions. He has many thousands of hours and a great aircraft, but has been known to drive or take commercial when he absolutely has to be somewhere on a day with questionable weather

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread David Megginson
Lee Elliott writes: So the b-52, with anhedral, should fly better upside down? So it would seem. I'd hate to see an engine flame out, though, and the flight crew end up having to make an approach and landing with only seven engines. All the best, David -- David Megginson, [EMAIL

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Incoming!!!!!!!!!!!!

2003-07-24 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 18:31, David Megginson wrote: Lee Elliott writes: So the b-52, with anhedral, should fly better upside down? So it would seem. I'd hate to see an engine flame out, though, and the flight crew end up having to make an approach and landing with only seven engines.

[Flightgear-devel] Segfault starting up

2003-07-24 Thread Sydney Weidman
Not sure if I should ask about this problem here or in the user list but here goes: I tried to start fg up at my local airport, cywg, but it segfaults. ksfo works fine. I'm using the follwing software: Linux RedHat 7.3 FlightGear-0.9.2 metakit-2.4.9.2 plib-1.6.0 SimGear-0.3.3 compiled with

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Segfault starting up

2003-07-24 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Try the airport code in all caps ... this used to be more robust to non-matching codes, not sure what changed but we should probably look into it. Regards, Curt. Sydney Weidman writes: Not sure if I should ask about this problem here or in the user list but here goes: I tried to start fg

RE: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Andrei Barbu

2003-07-24 Thread Jon Berndt
Hi, Andrei has kindly offered to do a bit of web page redesign for the FlightGear project. The included message has a link to his proposed changes for the front page. What do people think? The sample is up at geocities so ignore the advertising; that of course is not part of the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Andrei Barbu

2003-07-24 Thread Tony Peden
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 19:09, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hi, Andrei has kindly offered to do a bit of web page redesign for the FlightGear project. The included message has a link to his proposed changes for the front page. What do people think? The sample is up at geocities so ignore the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument Flight Test: Passed

2003-07-24 Thread Jim Wilson
David Megginson [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Because of the early problems with the Continental engine, the 172 POH had all kinds of warnings about carb heat, including a requirement to turn on carb heat for landing and any procedure (such as descent) where RPM fell out of the green arc. Cessna

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Andrei Barbu

2003-07-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Friday 25 July 2003 03:09, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hi, Andrei has kindly offered to do a bit of web page redesign for the FlightGear project. The included message has a link to his proposed changes for the front page. What do people think? The sample is up at geocities so ignore the

[Flightgear-devel] Font size on the site

2003-07-24 Thread Andrei Barbu
Very nice. I think he should continue. Only nit is I'd like to see the nav column a little narrower (smaller type on the green links). Here's a screenshot of it in my browser (in case it looks different for others): http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/webproposal.png Best, Jim Thanks, I've

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flap position

2003-07-24 Thread Lee Elliott
On Thursday 24 July 2003 09:51, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Hi, I am trying to model the A320 flaps. I has 5 positions but in the keyboard or joystick bindings, each time I hit the flap down button, /controls/flight/flaps is increased by rawly 1/3, leading to only four possibilities. Would it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Andrei Barbu

2003-07-24 Thread Alex Perry
From: Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] We need it. I like it. Me too. While it looks great under Moz and IE, it looks awful under Netscape 4.7x because the table misformats and puts the pictures in a vertical column (pushing the news down). It probably just needs more explicit tags to enumerate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Andrei Barbu

2003-07-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2003 05:55 schrieb Alex Perry: From: Jon Berndt [EMAIL PROTECTED] We need it. I like it. Me too. While it looks great under Moz and IE, it looks awful under Netscape 4.7x because the table misformats and puts the pictures in a vertical column (pushing the news down).

[Flightgear-devel] Please excuse this test

2003-07-24 Thread Martin Spott
it's empty -- Unix _IS_ user friendly - it's just selective about who its friends are ! -- ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Flightgear-devel] forwarded message from Andrei Barbu

2003-07-24 Thread WillyB
Looks Super here! Used Konquerer and came up looking good :) Nice Job Andrei :) RE's Willyb On Thursday 24 July 2003 19:09, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Hi, Andrei has kindly offered to do a bit of web page redesign for the FlightGear project. The included message has a link to his proposed