On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 09:26 -0700, Mark Leisher wrote:
Being lazy, I'm asking here before actually looking around. Can anyone
recommend programs that create [OT]TF fonts from BDF fonts?
Juliusz wrote fonttosfnt which combines multiple BDF sizes into a single
SFNT. It's in CVS at
On Fri, 2005-12-09 at 01:07 +0100, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
Hmm, why not simply adding a special `BDF ' table which holds all
properties? This should be straightforward, and you get lossless
conversion.
Yes, this was my plan. I got side-tracked before I managed to implement
it though.
I need
On Wed, 2005-12-14 at 22:16 +0100, David Turner wrote:
I'd like to know the following:
- is this feature useful for fontconfig / libXft ? Or should we yank
it from
FreeType ?
It's not terribly useful for fontconfig or libXft, where it is useful is
in converting sfnt back into BDF files
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 15:18 +0100, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
It's not terribly useful for fontconfig or libXft, where it is useful is
in converting sfnt back into BDF files in case you want to take a font
and use it with old non-TTF supporting X servers.
Well, that you already can do,
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 09:36 -0800, George Williams wrote:
On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 10:50, Keith Packard wrote:
should do the trick. It's reasonably functional, the plan was to use it
to eliminate BDF/PCF fonts from the X distribution and ship only TTF
files. That's been stalled for a couple
On Tue, 2006-01-17 at 15:12 -0800, George Williams wrote:
I was told so when I implemented them in fontforge. But I wasn't in the
initial discussions so I'm not the best source.
I also recall discussions which discovered that the .otb extension was
otherwise unused in most of the world. It
Around 1 o'clock on Jul 10, Juliusz Chroboczek wrote:
I suggest they should have the extension ``.sfnt'', with ``.sfn''
being recognised for compatibility with 8+3 systems.
While using four letter extensions would be nice, I'm afraid there remain
file system formats which provide for only
Around 16 o'clock on Feb 28, Yun-Ta Tsai wrote:
I found some patches that will fix several truetype fonts problems
with asian characters both on printing to printer and showing on screen, also
support asian font name. Unfortunatelly, I can't patch by myself because qt
keep releasing , so I
Around 6 o'clock on Feb 19, ITO Tsuyoshi wrote:
According to the code of the Render extension on X server side,
XRenderCompositeText16 should send a glyphset-switch sign (a glyph
element with len = 0xff) to the X server when it encounters a glyph
element whose glyphset is different from the
Around 22 o'clock on Feb 8, Mike FABIAN wrote:
To make it possible to override as much as possible of
the global settings in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf with user
preferences in ~/.fonts.conf, it seems to be better
to put the line
The subtleties of the contents of /etc/fonts/fonts.conf appear to
it a whirl in a
while. It shouldn't be hard -- add another pattern element requesting
artificial emboldening that routes code through this function and then
add pattern matching stuff to the font configuration which turns that on
when a pattern requests bold but the matched face is not.
Keith Packard
This will generate quite a bit of output, but should provide sufficient
information to see why one font is preferred to another, although you're
likely to need to look a the fontconfig source to make much sense of the
output.
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Around 5 o'clock on Dec 19, Mike A. Harris wrote:
The last discussion I recall on this was that ttf font file format would be
used with embedded bitmaps. Is this still planned for 4.3.0?
No, not for 4.3, that would have needed to be ready before the feature
freeze date.
Keith Packard
the ugly bitmap fonts to (ugly, but
outline) replacement fonts of similar style and metric.
Does this look better?
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on the screen at all when an AA font is available that supports
the desired language.
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there area freely distributable outline fonts with coverage
equivalent to the core XFree86 bitmap fonts, I fear we will need to expose
bitmap fonts to ensure reasonable display of as many languages as possible.
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edit name=antialias mode=assign
boolfalse/bool
/edit
/match
instead. You can add size tests inside the match element if you like to
narrow the range to specific sizes.
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, then placing the UTF-8
encoded name in the configuration file should work. I worked pretty hard
to avoid that by searching all over the font for an ascii name though; on
my system, I see only MS Gothic and not ゴシック.
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a bit lax in enforcing the syntax. Please
add:
?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd
fontconfig
at the top of the file and
/fontconfig
at the bottom.
/me is hoping for real font configuration tools soon.
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along with the orthography update.
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. The trick is to make sure
that only fonts with reasonable HKSCS support are matched.
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take affect immediately.
Then you should have changed the file and broadcast a message to get the
apps to re-read the configuration files. That's easy enough to do.
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minor changes like this one.
Perhaps I'll get around to a 2.1 release in the next couple of weeks.
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/n022003l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L:style=Regular
/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/n022004l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L:style=Bold
/usr/share/fonts/type1/gsfonts/n022024l.pfb: Nimbus Mono L:style=Bold Oblique
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r
m
and so is not rotated (verticallayout=FcFalse).
FreeType doesn't transform bitmap glyphs at all; not even for this trivial
case. I don't think it would be hard to detect this and flip the bits
around inside FreeType.
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; that would make adding coverage
information possible with existing apps.
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marked as supporting Korean as it is missing a large number
of Han glyphs, totalling some 3136 characters from the KSC 5601-1992
encoding. Many Korean documents will not be completely covered by this
font. It also isn't marked as supporting Japanese or any of the Chinese
languages.
Keith Packard
, you can easily build a charset encompassing those and ask for
the font covering the greatest number.
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xftcache is obsolete; use fc-cache instead.
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Around 1 o'clock on Sep 30, David Starner wrote:
(Package ttf-thryomanes.) Unfortunately, they
don't seem to display correctly in XFT2 programs
don't seem to display correctly isn't very descriptive; can you provide
a sample problem?
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+ * $XFree86: xc/lib/fontconfig/src/fcpat.c,v 1.16 2002/08/31 22:17:32 keithp Exp $
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* Copyright © 2000 Keith Packard, member of The XFree86 Project, Inc.
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Around 22 o'clock on Sep 6, Ken Deeter wrote:
I am concerned that without doing something like this, adding a font
directory would require modifying two files instead of one (the
fonts.conf to add the dir and the font mapping table file)
Adding a font directory almost never involves
/fonts-cache-1
Any directories not matching a configured prefix would map to themselves;
this makes the existing configuration and cache files compatible.
Does this seem like a good plan? Can anyone come up with a better way of
moving the storage of fonts.cache into /var/cache?
Keith Packard
/cache/fontconfig then. I don't really care.
Though, I think /var/cache/fonts should be the better, as I like the style
what fontconfig do.
To some extent, we can ask if a slight reinterpretation of the FSH can be
permitted in this case.
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to replace the render.h found
in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/extensions to get things to build. If so, let
me know and I'll see how I can fix the package.
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have some issues of this nature; I'm continuing to use the XFree86 copy
of 2.1.1 for now and have moved the debian versions out of the way.
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this, then will Xft now use the embedded bitmaps for
the non-antialiased sizes or will it try to use the outlines like
before?
Xft1 still has the old (broken) behaviour. The current version of Xft
uses bitmaps when antialiasing is disabled.
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at only a very few sizes.
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the font. This is quite common with GB18030 fonts which covers GB2312,
Big5 and JIS X 0208. A GB18030 font which includes only bit 18 in the
codePageRange bits will only be listed as supporting zh-cn and not zh-tw,
even though it nominally covers Big5.
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font, but the right fix is to go and get reasonable fonts; the
alternate fix is to place the complete font first in the list.
I'll go dig up a unicode table for KSC-5607.1987 and replace the existing
ko map with that.
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experience writing TrueType font files, help would be
greatly appreciated in building something that can create these new files.
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the current Xserver/fontserver 'font' library to fontconfig,
we'll have done this for both applications.
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news. There's no particular hurry for this, but it would be
nice to get things tested in Xft and fontconfig before XFree86 4.3 goes
out the door. Switching the main fonts in the release can wait until a
later day.
We eagerly await future developments in this area :-)
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, a proportional and monospaced version of the
same face.
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listing code can advertise
whatever DPI it likes.
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verification. Otherwise, the directory is scanned and each file
checked against the cache. Again, the per-user cache is automatically
updated when this information changes, so the rescanning affects only the
first application to run after the filesystem has changed.
Keith Packard
debugging situations.
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in the generic alias and you'll have a uniform (if displeasing)
appearance across almost all text.
One explicit goal is to permit a global configuration which is generally
usable by everyone without change; any local customizations neeed to the
global configuration file should be considered bugs.
Keith
display garbage on the screen.
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and fontconfig to make it even easier.
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I've built and tagged RC2 for fontconfig. The bits are available at:
http://keithp.com/fonts/pub/fcpackage.rc2.tar.gz
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Major changes:
fontconfig:
The weird first/not-first hack for checking the font vs
versions of Xft is probably only asking for trouble. I've
also not updated Qt3 in a few weeks making the patch somewhat stale at
this point.
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a problem with that. Xft2/fontconfig are on a separate
release schedule from XFree86 making it possible to update them
independently.
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intend to stabilize and ship this version in short order; I'm interested
in hearing about problems and concerns, but functional enhancements will
await a new version.
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Around 12 o'clock on Jul 25, Owen Taylor wrote:
If you are using Qt with Xft, there are a couple of fixes on top
of qt3.diff you'll need; the attached are what we have in Rawhide
in a quick check.
Thanks for the update; I'll cut a new patch after I test this fix.
Keith Packard
with their languages. This can
be done with FcNameUnparse/FcNameParse which generate UTF-8
encoded strings for the font name.
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of available fonts to match the ascii name. This would
have the (questionable) property where the application would find out that
configured fonts were missing.
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of names to a name appropriate for the user is the only locale
-dependent step.
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elements.
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rather automatically
extract all of the necessary information as this will be less prone to
user error.
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of a trademarked font name which would then go
and match some other font.
We were allowed to make fontconfig aliases between the Lucidux and Luxi
families because of this.
If you can think of a way to reconcile these two requirements, please
suggest it.
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support only ASCII names?
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Microsoft/Unicode entry.
I've started putting code together that ignores the FreeType family/style
values and walks the name table if available. I have an apple roman
transcoding table available and I'm not afraid to use it.
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Around 18 o'clock on Jul 12, Keith Packard wrote:
I'll add transcoding for apple-roman names. My intent is to prefer
english names, and failing that, to choose the first entry in a known
encoding.
Well, *that* was entertaining. It almost works. Except for MS Mincho.
For both
with a list of 150 languages.
This leaves us wondering how to display localized names for users of other
languages. I guess we'll assume they speak the modern lingua franca.
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changes to the font database caching mechanism or
would require editing each font database entry at startup by running it
through some configuration.
Note that the format shown above nicely parallels the per-language font
configuration mechanism already used by Mozilla.
Keith Packard
, then it
couldn't even distinguish between Ming and Sung forms.
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but applications using this font shouldn't care; they already need to load
multiple fonts if they want to display Georgian and Chinese at the same
time, that support obviously can handle adding another font for ASCII.
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that POSIX specifies the order in which these are used, and given
that all of my test programs don't call setlocale, I've added the trivial
code to fetch from the environment.
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with applications which haven't called
setlocale (LC_ALL, )? Do I:
a) call setlocal (LC_ALL, ) myself?
b) use $LANG or $LC_CTYPE?
c) Ignore the locale information and leave the
font language preference unset?
Keith PackardXFree86 Core
?
(no case conversion is necessary, FC_LANG comparisons are already case
insensitive).
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from the latin scripts; that should leave
all of them including only the alphabet.
I've also committed this whole mess to XFree86 CVS; the coverage
files can be found in xc/lib/fontconfig/fc-lang/*.orth
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Around 22 o'clock on Jul 7, Yu Shao wrote:
It seems a typo and I think using FcCodePageSet is always safer?
Good catch, there was a typo, but that code has since been deleted in
favor of the new RFC 3066-based language detection.
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based on the codePageRange bits.
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of this prohibits applications and users from explicitly
selecting a font which is inappropriate for their current locale or
document language -- explicit family names are now given greater weight
than language matching when selecting fonts.
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of some random font most likely suitable for Latin
languages.
Or would this only lead to confusion and chaos?
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are distinct from the set of
codepoitns suitable for the display of traditional Chinese. That would
be nicer than my current kludge of marking any font suitable for
traditional chinese as unsuitable for simplified Chinese.
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if (covers_almost_all_of (Big5))
font supports traditional Chinese
Thanks, this works just fine. I'm much happier with this solution.
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with testing only a signifiant fraction,
for all other languages all chars must be tested.
Yes, the tolerance value given for the Han languages is 500 codepoints
while the value for non-Han languages is two orders of magnitude smaller.
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in verifying it's
sensitivity and specificity are welcome to check it out and run:
$ FC_DEBUG=256 fc-cache -f
This will display the number of missing glyphs in each language for each
font and also display errors in the lang value relative to that specified
in the TrueType file.
Keith Packard
that far from X-specific calls.
The Mozilla code follows the X core-font version which always uses pixel
sizes; the UI exposes pixel sizes in the configuration UI. I did't like
this, but followed along in the Mozilla patches.
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the
information was available, I could pass it down.
(As you might guess, I'm a big fan of optically scaled fonts.)
I was unaware that any foundrys were spending the time and money to build
fonts in this fashion any more. It would be nice...
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for
and share whole maps.
Yes, the sharing is recursive so that fonts which are sharing every page
end up sharing the top level as well. That's why the number of CharSets
is (significantly) less than the number of fonts.
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was somehow different
from UTF-16. Thanks for the clarification.
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that will be hidden to from the bulk
of Mozilla's current PUA codepoint adventure.
I'm currently busy getting pango and fontconfig talking sweetly, so I
won't be able to explore MathML right now.
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extends
that function.
That allows me to get from Unicode 3.2 codepoints to glyphs; now I need to
get from the mozilla PUA codepoints to Unicode 3.2 codepoints. A
definitive list of the PUA codepoints that are used would be very useful
here.
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the language tag to fontconfig and expect that the
matching rules will generate a reasonable match.
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except plug
X, fontconfig and FreeType together; a GL-specific library should be of
similar (if not smaller) size.
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Around 0 o'clock on May 31, Keith Packard wrote:
I've updated the tarballs containing Xft and fontconfig bits and have
included Xrender and Xft1 sources as well. Those haven't been
'autoconf'ized yet, so they only build with xmkmf.
I forgot to include the path to the files; it's the same
scaling; that keeps broken
applications working while avoiding horrors on the screen, and eliminating
the scaling code from the server. Perhaps ':nearest'?
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Around 22 o'clock on May 30, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Joaqu=EDn?= Cuenca Abela wrote:
is it only me, or xft-config.in (line 92) should be:
libs=-lXft ...
Yes, that's correct -- someone else noted this a couple of days ago. The
fix is in CVS, but I haven't rebuilt the tarballs since then.
Keith
arabicasmo708 /* 61 */
#define FC_LANG_WE_LATIN_1 welatin1 /* 62 */
#define FC_LANG_US us/* 63 */
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it doesn't crash.
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of FreeType (2.0.9) doesn't
seem to find any non-BMP encodings in the type-4 table, it finds 30 type 4
segments in code2001.ttf, the last of which encodes glyph 65535.
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-fontset mapping; that should be pretty
straightforward, perhaps give a few additional APIs in fontconfig to
generate hash values for patterns. Other than that, I think most
of the code here should run fast enough to be left uncached.
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Around 17 o'clock on May 28, Yu Shao wrote:
I tested Xft2 with some Chinese pcf fonts, like gb16fs.pcf.gz come with
Xfree86 4.2,
FreeType can't yet read PCF fonts that are compressed; it should be able
to read them if you uncompress them first.
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to be
used to select preferred faces for each language tag.
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