2009/7/21 wiki-li...@phizz.demon.co.uk:
If you have a personal use, want to illustrating an article or blog that
is not Adsense rich, have an academic use, or a small scale fundraising
non-profit fine take what you want. If on the other hand you are share
cropping with Google Ads, using the
2009/7/20 Stephen Bain stephen.b...@gmail.com:
'To me the problem is the Wikipedia
rule of public use,' says Jerry Avenaim, a celebrity photographer. 'If
they truly wanted to elevate the image on the site, they should allow
photographers to maintain the copyright.'
We should definitely take
2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
Imagine this, if a gallery or museum has a painting of some Leonard van
der Olsen-Mozart (he don't exist, hopefully..) then this museum should
make sure there is a bio for the person and of his painting of The
fallen Madonna with the big bottom, and
2009/7/18 Yann Forget y...@forget-me.net:
geni wrote:
2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model
don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it
and make the alternate options viable.
We do not have
http://www.watchknow.org/
CC-by-sa educational videos for school kids. Currently building up a
head of steam before its official big splash launch:
http://blog.citizendium.org/2009/07/17/garrison-keillor-notices-my-birthday/
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2009/7/17 Harald Krichel harald.kric...@googlemail.com:
Shouldn't we set up our own URL-aliasing service?
This would also have the advantage that you could be sure that the
wikimedia shortened urls only lead to wikimedia domains.
I know of:
http://enwp.org/
http://enwn.net/
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2009/7/17 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
If we forget about politics and who-did-what, what is the common grounds
between us and them? To me it seems like they want us to use their
material, but that they are scared to let go of a possible income. This
seems fairly similar to the Galleri NOR
2009/7/17 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Not really. Remember there are a bunch of other collections. Many will
be looking to use the NPG's business model. National maritime museum,
Imperial war museum, British library, Various national archives. Can't
afford to buy them all off.
It's worth noting
2009/7/18 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
Sorry, I don't follow you on this one. If the existing business model
don't work and it should be changed, then work with them to change it
and make the alternate options viable.
That's what I mean - this issue goes way beyond NPG into how arts
2009/7/18 Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se:
Ah, but do governments really say this? I think it's museum
people who want to play business because business is glamorous
and state-owned administration is dull and grey. I don't think
governments originally came up with this idea.
I have been
2009/7/13 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
From your text I get the impression that it is something special that we put
annotations about a work with the digital copy. I would argue that this is
something that we should do with all our material. The annotations that
exist about a
2009/7/12 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 2:11 AM, Tom Maaswinkeltom.maaswin...@12wiki.eu
wrote:
The part I am talking about is the part where they say that they want to
talk to the Wikimedia Fundation to have a discussion about making
low-resolution images of
2009/7/11 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
Would I be right in assuming that you are American? You certainly have
Oh, and Ray is Canadian ;-p
(I had people in the Slashdot thread assuming I was American despite
the davidgerard.co.uk domain ...)
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2009/7/11 John at Darkstar vac...@jeb.no:
In the case of GalleriNOR several people uploaded images from the site
without prior agreement with neither NB nor NF. After a while I get in
touch with them and asked how we should handle the case, what people
believed was the right thing to do from
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/10/world/asia/10iht-malay.html
The Malaysian government has declared that science instruction will be
conducted in Bahasa rather than English. Parents, teachers and
professors are very unhappy because English is the language of
science.
This sort of thing affects
2009/7/10 Pavlo Shevelo pavlo.shev...@gmail.com:
Would you please be more clear in
This sort of thing affects the quality of our projects in languages
other than English.
?
I mean what kind of affects (positive/negative) do you mean and what
is the cause mechanism between such governmental
2009/7/10 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
So, even a discipline with a lot of polyglots can't work without lingua
franca.
I remember reading in Isaac Asimov's autobiography how, as a chemist
in the 1940s, he had to learn French and German well enough to read
papers in those languages. So the
2009/7/10 Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com:
Does this mean that you would advise against Ubuntu for their use of
iceweasel and their inability to provide the 3.5 release in a timely fashion
?
That question really doesn't make any sense in context. Why would we
advise *against* an
2009/7/10 Mark Williamson node...@gmail.com:
I'm not suggesting that anybody ignore the issue, just that a
different approach be taken to resolution.
I am. Nobody cares, approximately.
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2009/7/11 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Ubuntu is as much a software package including an OS as a pure OS. It
can be considered amusing that the bundling that got Microsoft into
trouble has become standard practice for pretty much any general user
orientated OS these days.
This is a
... the National Portrait Gallery appear to be sending legal threats
to individual uploaders, after the Foundation ignored their claims as
utterly, utterly specious.
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat
The editor in question is US-based.
So. What is WMF's response
On 11/07/2009, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote:
Technically, the user could just ignore this - a lawsuit in a UK court
without relevant jurisdiction, under US law as applies, can be
ignored. A default judgement against him might be entered, however,
and that might make
2009/7/9 Michael Dale md...@wikimedia.org:
* Google Chromium -- supports h.264 and ogg theora video natively. Again
ogg performance is not very high quality. It uses the ffmpeg library
which features a non-optimal theora decoder. Things like seeking
presently don't work very reliably.
Does
2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Mention VLC plugin perhaps?
Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of
pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in
practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly
suggest you read the wikitech-l thread.
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2009/7/9 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/7/9 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Mention VLC plugin perhaps?
Again, you're making suggestions to create an image of
pseudo-neutrality. The VLC plugin is notoriously problematic in
practice. Your suggestion would be actively misleading. I strongly
2009/7/7 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
Once a name or monument transcends what it originally named and is
used by reference to describe similar things elsewhere, there is a
tendency to add the definite article -- the Earth, the Sun, the
Sphinx, the Oracle, the Colosseum. I do see people
2009/7/3 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com:
{{qif}} was being used massively, even if the majority of the community
didn't know about it (or care). It supported their work and allowed them
to do the things with templates that they needed in articles. I would
argue these complex templates came
2009/7/6 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Questionable. Since for fairly obvious reasons you can't let
wikipedians execute arbitrary code through templates there is always
going to be the problem of wikipedians useing workarounds that
generate problematical code.
ParserFunctions is already
2009/7/4 Peter Gervai grin...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 21:45, John at Darkstarvac...@jeb.no wrote:
There is a solution, and it is rather puzzling. The license talks about
identification by an URI, and this can be defined several ways. We can
simply define an URI like Wikipedia:My
2009/7/3 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
A compromise is a win-win. In the absence of a compromise its a lose-lose.
Except that H264 wins since almost all of us already support it.
Relying on something rendered radioactive by the software patents
attached to it is not a win.
It would be
Anyone able to help with this?
(Durova's been doing a lot of restoration work on Commons. There has
also been discussion on wikien-l about crediting restorers - there's
frequently no copyright obligation to credit restorers, but doing so
is (a) polite (b) more accurate sourcing (c) encourages
2009/6/21 Ray Saintonge sainto...@telus.net:
Sure, transparency is a problem, but its absence alone does not imply
fraud. It hurts the Iranian authorities even more if the vote count is
accurate because nobody believes them.
Evidence the numbers were made up: humans are not very good at
2009/6/21 Nikola Smolenski smole...@eunet.yu:
Дана Saturday 13 June 2009 18:20:36 picus-viridis написа:
IMHO automatic translations into Polish are useless, as they only allow
rough orientation in the contents of an article. It concerns not only
How is rough orientation in the contents of
http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/infolaw/2009/06/19/using-wikisource-as-an-alternative-open-access-repository-for-legal-scholarship/
Interesting. How well does this fit with what Wikisource does?
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2009/6/15 Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com:
Sysops on Commons arent just handed the tools they first must seek a level
of trust from the community that trust is because there are times when a
person must act in the interest of Commons. As a
2009/6/15 Rama Neko raman...@gmail.com:
The service project angle worries me too. I have noticed that many
articles of Wikipedia, the service project that makes it easier to
find media in Commons by providing encyclopedic context to our
content, utterly lack the proper links to our galleries
2009/6/15 Marcus Buck m...@marcusbuck.org:
David Gerard schrieb:
I'd hope this isn't a summary of the views of other Commons admins.
Anyone else? Or is the Commons admin community this insular and derisive?
That was an inversion, a change of perspective. A rhetorical measure
Summary: Google Chrome includes Ogg support for the video element.
It also includes H.264 support. Fine, but ... they're also testing
HTML5 YouTube *only* for H.264.
Mike Shaver from Mozilla has fairly unambiguously asked Chris diBona
from Google what the heck Google thinks it's doing:
[cc'd back to wikitech-l]
2009/6/8 Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org:
It's been discussed since OggHandler was invented in 2007, and I've
always been in favour of it. But the code hasn't materialised, despite
a Google Summer of Code project come and gone that was meant to
implement a
2009/6/8 Peter Gervai g...@grin.hu:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 17:26, David Gerarddger...@gmail.com wrote:
It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that
allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them
as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis.
As a technical
http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=30848
Free tuition, admission fee, testing fee. No word on freedom of
materials. Anyone know more about details of this? Something we can
help with?
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2009/6/8 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
I don't think that's all that's needed. There will be Wikimedians scouring
the Internet for all free video in all of its forms (of which there is quite
a lot) and uploading it to Commons. You'll need an entire encoding farm.
Hard drives are cheap, its
It would be a simple matter of programming to have something that
allows upload of encumbered video and audio formats and re-encode them
as Ogg Theora or Ogg Vorbis. It would greatly add to how much stuff we
get, as it would save the user the trouble of re-encoding, or
installing Firefogg, or
2009/6/7 Platonides platoni...@gmail.com:
David Gerard wrote:
Isn't Firefogg good enough? That's the solution being developed.
Installing software is an extra step for the user, therefore bad.
** though I fully expect people will now do so anyway
IANAL but
See, told you!
Does anyone
2009/6/7 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
I think there are two issues for a proprietary - non-proprietary converter:
1. The conversion software itself must be FLOSS.
2. The format being converted must have an open specification (Flash being a
good example of one that might be allowed to be
2009/6/7 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com:
On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Robert Rohderaro...@gmail.com wrote:
Patent encumbered formats often have licensing fees when you perform
encoding / decoding at commercial scale. For example, the MPEG
licensing association expects a fee from anyone
2009/6/7 Mark (Markie) newsmar...@googlemail.com:
Archive.org do this and I know the tech team at least have previously had
meetings/discussions with them.
Archive.org is of course a charity too. Does anyone know the
arrangement allowing them to do this?
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2009/6/4 Pedro Sanchez pdsanc...@gmail.com:
What I propose is this being re-added would cause a removal of sysop bit due
to misuse of powers.
Don't we have a committee that checks privacy violations?
The Foundation would surely have this power.
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Web bugs for statistical data are a legitimate want but potentially a
horrible privacy violation.
So I asked on wikitech-l, and the obvious answer appears to be to do
it internally. Something like http://stats.grok.se/ only more so.
So - if you want web bug data in a way that fits the privacy
2009/6/4 Robert Rohde raro...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Aryeh Gregor
simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote:
However, perhaps a default AbuseFilter could be installed telling
admins that installing Analytics is a violation of Foundation policy
and that they'll get desysopped
2009/6/4 Erik Zachte erikzac...@infodisiac.com:
Considering web bugs: comScore also proposed such a scheme to us.
Apart from the question how much it would bring us that we don't or can't
figure out ourselves an overriding concern is privacy.
So if we ran our own internal web bug mechanism,
2009/5/31 Foxy Loxy foxyloxy.wikime...@gmail.com:
Assembling a chain of production that long, particularly for a
non-profit foundation that doesn't have the best reputation (I'm not
saying it's justified, but many people in high places will go 'ew,
wikipedia').
[citation needed]
People in
2009/5/31 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
Now my understanding is that the protocol for interserver communication
isn't completed, and who knows it may be vaporware. But it's an intriguing
possibility. (As I said in a previous message, finally the platform I need
for P2Pedia is here.)
Wave
2009/5/31 geni geni...@gmail.com:
2009/5/31 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
For a practical example, the Schools Wikipedia is proving enormously
popular with teachers in countries of all economic levels. Requires
something that can read a DVD, or have said DVD dumped onto its hard
disk
2009/5/29 Newyorkbrad (Wikipedia) newyorkb...@gmail.com:
You know ... I can't think of a single instance in which I've ever seen
Wikipedia content reused in which the GFDL was followed. In EVERY instance,
the attribution has either been messed up or omitted altogether.
I'm not saying this is
2009/5/30 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
I don't get it... this is just MSN Messenger on steroids. It's a great
idea and if it works it should be really useful, but it isn't
world-changing and certainly isn't going to restructure the internet.
No, no - it's Google Chat on steroids!
2009/5/26 Michael Bimmler mbimm...@gmail.com:
I wish you all the best -- from now on, I will again rely on what I
read about Wikimedia's fate in the media, albeit taking it with a
pinch of salt...
I give you at most three months before you can no longer resist the
siren call of Edit this
2009/5/22 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
2009/5/22 private musings thepmacco...@gmail.com:
Hi all,
I saw this news item today;
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8061979.stm
and felt that it was tangentially related to the discussions on this list
concerning sexual content on wikimedia -
2009/5/23 Mike.lifeguard mikelifegu...@fastmail.fm:
I have been keeping an eye on what content got imported on English
Wikibooks. If there has been anything imported from offsite GFDL-only
sources I'm not aware of it. To be honest though, that's not saying much
- we often have contributors
2009/5/15 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
Google has an hour of slow service and it's headline news. Imagine the
donations we could get if our downtime (which, as David is fond of
saying, is our most profitable product) got into the headlines!
Originally a Jimbo quote :-)
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There was a Wikipedians group which was apparently started for
networking (which in practice seemed to mean spam blasts), per
http://davidgerard.co.uk/notes/2009/04/16/wikipedians-on-linkedin/
But there's at least a couple more groups which are sincere and were
just put together by Wikipedians
2009/5/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
(In practice, those considering Wikipedia unsuitable for mass
consumption write their own encyclopedia site, e.g. Conservapedia or
Christopedia.)
Or - how could I forget, the example of an actually good selection of
Wikipedia that's proving very
2009/5/14 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
2009/5/14 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
So is my cookbook censored because it doesn't include a description of
the Peloponnesian War? Of course not. It's not a matter of censorship,
it's a matter of scope. If you wish to argue that pearl
2009/5/14 Sage Ross ragesoss+wikipe...@gmail.com:
I don't have much to add, but I want to voice my strong agreement.
Some sort of serious effort to reach out to the many users who don't
share the outlook of our more-libertarian-than-the-general-population
community is long overdue.
Schools
2009/5/10 Michael Peel em...@mikepeel.net:
I don't want to restart this rather long (but very interesting)
topic, but I'd like to point out / remind people that a couple of
well-placed fires could wipe out most of wikipedia et al. as we
currently know it - surely the first priority, before
2009/5/7 Dedalus deda...@wikipedia.be:
Congratulations to the Poland team for winning the Wikimania 2010 bid!
Danzig!
/me runs away v. fast
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Time for Wikinews to get recruiting ...
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2009/5/7 Charlotte Webb charlottethew...@gmail.com:
I think David Gerard said human postings generally do not score above
2.0 unless their vocabulary suggests a background in SEO, then it's
higher.
I don't remember saying the second part, but yeah, most human-written
emails score below 2.0
2009/5/7 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
* Of course this could be boiled down to part of a good comprehensive
article on Wikipedia in the same way that all wikiprojects could be
merged into WP if one were so inclined...
No, no. All wikiprojects could be merged into *Wikibooks* if one were
2009/5/8 Brian brian.min...@colorado.edu:
You went from 2,500 subjects to just 10?
For a software test, which this mostly was, 5 is enough for excellent
results in most cases.
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2009/5/5 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
Of course, since all of Wikimedia's data is freely available, anyone
else who'd like to store it in some durable form for any sum of money
is absolutely free to do so. Or they could give Wikimedia a directed
grant. But it would be a waste
2009/5/5 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
However, most information isn't lost because of disaster, it is lost
because people don't think they need it any more and delete/destroy
it. Can we trust whoever is around in the future to continue to
preserve the history dumps they've backed
2009/5/5 Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com:
In 3000 years, nobody will give a rat's ass about Britney Spears'
discography (again, to pick a random example of pop culture).
That's a bet I'm willing to make.
Depends if they rediscover publish or perish. The academic rat race
is a study in
2009/5/5 Jussi-Ville Heiskanen cimonav...@gmail.com:
Heh, that reminds me of a fresh Finnish patented method of
printing on concrete, and the freshly built archival building
in Hämeenlinna. Here is a bit of detail of the wall of the building.
see if it reminds you of anything familiar to us
2009/4/23 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Will any of the orange products support wikipedia's video format and
by what mechanism?
(hypothesising here) I expect that would require a converter from Ogg
Theora to 3GP and Ogg Vorbis to MP3 in the first instance.
Gently pressuring phone manufacturers to
http://newteevee.com/2009/04/20/achtung-youtube-germany-proposes-federal-id-checks-for-online-video-sites/
German readers - how much of a danger is this? Is Commons enough of a
video site?
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2009/4/23 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
Commons isn't a German site, so I don't see a problem. The WMF has
always said that it intends to follow US law only and not try and
cater to the laws of every country in the world - that includes
Germany. The article mentions a plan to force
2009/4/23 Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com:
Very true. You have to balance starting high enough that you have room
to come down with not appearing unreasonable. It's a difficult
balancing act, and I'm not sure you got it quite right this time.
Perhaps you could have requested they make
2009/4/23 Sebastian Moleski seb...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 6:30 PM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dal...@gmail.com
wrote:
... The WMF has
always said that it intends to follow US law only and not try and
cater to the laws of every country in the world - that includes
Germany
{{citation
2009/4/23 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
It's basically proven by the notable lack of other art appearing on
their site in the meantime. I was mildly amused that one of the
sources on their wiki page drew a comparison between the project and
Andrew Keen, which I suppose fits in with the
2009/4/24 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
David Gerard wrote:
2009/4/23 Michael Snow wikipe...@verizon.net:
It's basically proven by the notable lack of other art appearing on
their site in the meantime. I was mildly amused that one of the
sources on their wiki page drew a comparison
2009/4/22 Ting Chen wing.phil...@gmx.de:
NPOV is mainly a principle of Wikipedia, later also used by Wikibooks
and Wikinews. There is at least one project (Wikiversity) which
explicitely allow participants not to follow NPOV, but the Disclosure of
Point of Views in Wikiversity follow in
2009/4/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
NPOV transformation to general neutrality will work in the most of the
cases. A clear example for such transformation is Wikinews. Even
called as NPOV, Wikinews neutrality is a different kind of approach
because it is a journalistic one.
And even
2009/4/22 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:20 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
And if you want to force any kind of neutrality there, you would get
the same kind of scientific production which existed in East European
countries during 50s and 60s: A (very
2009/4/22 Gregory Kohs thekoh...@gmail.com:
Am I on moderation?
Not that I can see. Your previous email came through OK. However, note
that even if you tell it to, Gmail will *not* show you a copy of
messages you sent to a list. This is, apparently, for your comfort and
convenience.
If you're
2009/4/22 Samuel Klein meta...@gmail.com:
Science is not yet neutral. The 'scientific method' we currently use
as a meterstick is a fairly casual method, often producing biased or
context-free results, which would be improved by a bit of the same
self-reflection required to describe
2009/4/23 Kul Takanao Wadhwa kwad...@wikimedia.org:
I am spreading the news around (I just posted to the internal list)
about a new announcement going out in a couple hours. For the past few
months I have been working on a deal with Orange (France Telecom) on a
new kind of multi-platform
2009/4/20 Birgitte SB birgitte...@yahoo.com:
I second this. Does anyone really believe it is even possible to set one
standard of what it means to be 'collegial' and 'collaborative' for all
cultures? These things are not absolute values and each community needs to
work out what standards
2009/4/10 RYU Cheol rch...@gmail.com:
Here we have, http://ko.wikipedia.org/User:Ryuch/realname
I qouted the names in the announcement of Communication Commission.
It includes Yahoo and Microsoft as well as Google.
Yahoo and Microsoft submitted to the law.
And YouTube said what? ahahaha no.
2009/4/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik jz5...@gmail.com wrote:
So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what are there
global rules which all the Wikipedias must follow?
No.
NPOV. Wikipedias which refuse it have been shut down.
2009/4/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 8:01 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/4/9 Milos Rancic mill...@gmail.com:
On Thu, Apr 9, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Jaska Zedlik jz5...@gmail.com wrote:
So, does an all-Wikipedias rules list exist, or if not, what
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/2009/03/22/open-letter-call-for-major-websites-to-opt-out-of-phorm/
Should we say er, no, not our data either or ignore them?
(This has been discussed on internal lists as well, with all
commenting saying HELL YES. The question then is whether, by some
obscure
2009/3/2 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com:
I just went to get some actual data. Here's the stats.grok.se hit
count for [[:en:Wikipedia:Contact us]] and its subpages:
232227 Wikipedia:Contact us
- ranked #366 page on Wikipedia for Feb 2009
2230 Wikipedia:Contact us/account questions
7773
2009/3/29 KillerChihuahua pu...@killerchihuahua.com:
This is a lovely article, by a reporter who actually doesn't seem to be
on a smear campaign or completely misunderstand how Wikipedia works -
altho its unclear how much of that is due to reading The Wikipedia
Revolution.
Wikipedia:
2009/3/29 The Cunctator cuncta...@gmail.com:
A lovely article. The only pity is it doesn't note how much of this social
theory of wikis owes to Sunir Shah's pioneering work on MeatballWiki.
MeatballWiki is all but unknown to most Wikipedians, let alone the
outside world. That's not good. I
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2009/03/23/protect_our_access_to_medical_research/
Can the Foundation officially put in any words towards openness?
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2009/3/16 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 10:01 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote:
WMF advice can't actually construct new terms for the CC by-sa 3.0.
It can't even release my contributions under CC by-sa 3.0, for that matter.
No, but you did with the or later
2009/3/16 Anthony wikim...@inbox.org:
I don't think that's clear at all. In fact, I think what's clear is that if
someone is releasing a work under a license, they are not releasing it under
a license that doesn't yet exist.
Yes, because Eben Moglen (who would have cleared the or later
2009/3/15 Charlotte Webb charlottethew...@gmail.com:
This would still give the wrong data if the page has been moved to
[[Xenu (Scientology)]] and the [[Xenu (disambiguation)]] is moved to
[[Xenu]], which isn't a totally unreasonable outcome.
You'd have to use something like:
2009/3/15 geni geni...@gmail.com:
Wikimedia is not a party to the license therefor it's FAQ is of no
relevance. The answer again goes to the license text. You must...keep
intact all copyright notices for the Work and provide ,reasonable to
the medium or means You are utilizing: (i) the name
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