Michael Bernardi wrote:
I currently have a 4Gig HD (formatted with Win98 format.com) with
FreeDos installed as the operating system. But since the freedos disk
utilities don't all support FAT32 I was wondering if it was possible to
add the Windows 98SE DOS OS (from Windows\Command) and the
Thank you all. Below is a first cut to beat up on.
The box I am using for this has two floppies, a ZIP100, DVDROM\CDROM,
DVD W\CD W, two HDD; both plug in. All are functional under FD.
On the HDD that is plugged in for this exercise, C: drive currently
boots DRDOS 7, FreeDOS 5, MSDOS 6 and
Eric Auer wrote:
DRDOS 7, FreeDOS 5, MSDOS 6 and Win98SE.
Correction, it is MSDOS 7.10. I think I do have 6 also, but I have
never used it.
Interesting collection. Let me know if you have
time for some comparisons / benchmarks / ... ;).
Yes, if I get FREEDOS tuned, and you suggest what to
Can someone give me some help with the boot files? I have been using
DRDOS since V 6, but FDOS is new to me. The machine is an AMD 2200,
single HDD, 100M Zip, CD-RW, CD-DVD-RW. DRDOS is also on C:. W98SE
will be. OS selection is done by Acronis OS Selector. I have a
similar setup - with
Johnson Lam wrote:
On Thu, 05 Jan 2006 16:46:55 -0800, you wrote:
Hi Ray,
What about the CD\DVD issue?
You got any problem?
XCDROM does not see the second drive. OAKCDROM and VIDE-CDD do see it.
And what about the use and configuration of the drivers at
Florian Xaver wrote:
You got any problem?
XCDROM does not see the second drive. OAKCDROM and VIDE-CDD do see it.
I have 2, and the driver found them (look at the config.sys).
DEVICE=duse.exe MEM=190 SEC=2048 DRIVES=1 NOCD EMU
What is DUSE ?
DEVICE=xcdrom.sys /D:FDCD001
I tried
I have a CD made from the ISO. The readme identifies it as: b9 #2 30
Nov 2005. During install the kernel version is 0.0.35. Is this the
most recent?
It gets to Uncompressing and loading UPXed CPI (CPX).
And then Invalid Opcode...
Anyone understand this?
Ray
What drivers are available that will handle multiple CD\DVD drives and
what switches are appropriate? I am currently using Oak and Shcdx
because Oak is the only one I have been able to get to see more than one
drive.
TY
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Lester Vedrox wrote:
AB Repartition disk (by FDISK or somethink like Partition Magic).
EA Use a GOOD partition editor (not MS FDISK... preferrably something with a
reasonable user interface and something which you are good at using.
James, you should probably consider investing in
Gerry Hickman wrote:
Hi,
Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't WfW a different operating system
with it's own bootsector and startup files? You've then got the HIMEM,
EMM386 and IFSHLP to worry about.
Isn't it a bit like saying why can't I start OS/2 from within CP/M?
No, it is just a
Gerry Hickman wrote:
OK, let's agree it's just a shell for a minute; why would anyone want to
start it from within FreeDOS?
First, do you actually except that you cannot boot any Win 3x, including
3.11. You have to boot something else first and then run Win 3x as an
app. People who were
My questions are general but were prompted by _d32.rar.
Why the underline at the front on the name?
Can you point me to an unrar utility that will work with DOS or OS\2. I
have tried several and gotten nowhere. I can see the directory but
cannot read or extract any of it.
TY
Ray
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather
old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late
model machines.
Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP.
Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response.
I just downloaded and burned FDFULLCD.ISO. I installed it on a rather
old machine: 1G P4. I have trouble getting any DOS to boot on some late
model machines.
Bootable CD install stops at Configuring through DHCP.
Someone else complained about this last November. I don't find a response.
Eric Auer wrote:
Then it tried to download further updates but failed to
communicate with your ADSL router or similar device.
Could it have reasonably been expected to succeed?
If so, how to make it work.
How can I determine what did not get installed because of this?
I think the whole
I have 1.0 CD and boot floppy. I cannot find a SYS.COM. I found the
DOCs for it on the CD. Where is the file?
TY
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Still grepping through log files to find problems?
Is anyone current on what is available for operating system selection?
For years I used VCom System Commander, up to SC 2000. When that had
trouble with OS/2 on some hardware I went to Acronis OS selector V5. I
now have 8, 9 and 10. They do not seem to understand booting a
partition that is
FreeDOS 1.0 CD
Page says;
Wattcp.cfg Setup Menu
It hangs at:
Configuring through DHCP...
I would skip this section if I knew how.
Ideas?
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Ray Davison wrote:
FreeDOS 1.0 CD
Also, the make boot floppy item, didn't. It just took a readable disk
and made it unreadable. The disk was in A:, and it complained that it
couldn't read old info off B:
Ray
Eric Auer wrote:
This happens because you selected a package which tries to
use the internet to download further files.
TY. If install is unable to create an Internet connection, why does it
try to use one? The machine was physically connected to the router at
the time.
The install seems
I have always had a single primary C for DOS and W9X, and everything
else extended. W2K then puts it's boot files on C. That can cause
problems trying to restore the W2K partition from backup.
So I created the drive below. I am sure it will wrap. Sorry.
The labels include the drive
Eric Auer wrote:
Hi, maybe it is useful to try SYS CONFIG to switch
the DLASORT option to 0 or 1. Please read the docs,
to be more exact, the config.txt file :-) Probably
still does not behave as DR DOS, but I do remember
that DLASORT is there because some people were not
happy with the
Eric Auer wrote:
Oops sorry I mean sys.txt, not config.txt ...
OK. There is also SYS.EN.
The only SYS I know about is SYS.COM. I have been trying;
C:\FDOS\BIN\sys.com dlasort=X
Is this correct, and if so where do I put it? So far all I have gotten
is a SYS help screen.
Do you
FreeDOS 1.0
CAD locks the system, but does not reboot. It does it every time. Once
I got a illegal something The rest had no indication on screen.
Is this to be expected?
TY
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Eric Auer wrote:
Yes, known bug of that version of emm386. You either
have to use the altboot option of emm386 or update it
to jemm386 from japheth.de which you should probably
do anyways
JEMM386 says it needs XMM. I did nothing but sub JEMM386 for EMM386.
Seems Ok; slightly more free
Norton Disk Doctor from W2K says C: is OK.
FreeDOS chkdsk c: produces a 40K file. All entries are: file has an
invalid size.
The only chkdsk bug I find is 1954.
The problem stated in 1954 does not appear here.
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The file I had was: 3 July 06 35380
File produced: 40290
The new file is: 3 July 06 92376
File produced: 40382
Same complaints. Here is a sample.
\KERNEL.SYS has an invalid size, the size should be about 4294901760,
but the entry says it's 45341
Ray
Ray Davison wrote:
The file I had was: 3 July 06 35380
File produced: 40290
The new file is: 3 July 06 92376
File produced: 40382
Same complaints. Here is a sample.
\KERNEL.SYS has an invalid size, the size should be about 4294901760,
but the entry says it's 45341
Both versions work OK
Ray Davison wrote:
chkdsk beta 0.9.1 works on A, C and D - the only FAT16 on this machine.
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Robert Riebisch wrote:
Ray Davison wrote:
Boot screen says: DOSLFN 0.40c
Kernel is 20 Sept 07
Neither NC or VC 4.05 or DIR display LFNs.
Don't know about NC, but only VC 4.99.08 supports LFN.
You can also try
http://www.ritlabs.com/en/products/dn/index.php?phrase_id=642999
If you want to boot multiple OSs you should get real boot manager. For
years I ran System Commander. A couple years ago that started having
problems with OS/2 on some mother boards. Since then I have been using
Acronis OS Selector. It will run as many versions of DOS and W9X on a
single C
J wrote:
Any data recovery programs recommended or that I should avoid (i.e.
might make the situation worse)?
The first place I would post such a question is here:
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DFSee can do some amazing things with partition tables and contents.
And the author is there to help, including
Ray Davison wrote:
I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical. Is this to be expected?
There is a PATA optical that is OK.
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Blair Campbell wrote:
extract doslfn.com (or exe) and the .cp? I can't remember the
extention but there's a few codepage tables afair that the extension
begins with .cp
How about cp*.tbl?
Those need to go in the bin directory.
I assume you mean C:\FDOS\BIN
Then lh doslfn should do
Eric Auer wrote:
Hi!
I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the
available memory start out differently. There is small difference
in total RAM size, but by then doesn't DOS not care?
SYSTEM 17,344 (17K) 10,992 (11K) 6,352(6K)
HIMEM
Is there a DOS UNRAR somewhere I can get at? Every link I try, even tho
it says DOS, takes me off into WinLand. This one looked hopeful, it
mentioned FreeDOS, but is dead.
http://www.bttr-software.de/misc/urar377d.zip.
Ray
Ray Davison wrote:
Eric Auer wrote:
Try if updating LBACACHE helps:
www.ibiblio.org/pub/micro/pc-stuff/freedos/files/dos/lbacache/2008/
Lbacache.com 6 Apr 2008; no apparent change if still without TUNS.
Same lbcache, no TUNS, when I try to copy certain files I get:
LBACACHE flush: write
Eric Auer wrote:
Hi!
I just noticed SHCD does not see the SATA optical.
Is this to be expected?
I assume you try using SHSUCDX for SATA CD or DVD
drives? No problem for SHSUCDX (which creates a
drive letter from the raw data) but your low level
driver (to access raw data) must support
Any more thoughts on this?
Ray
Ray Davison wrote:
Eric Auer wrote:
Hi!
I just noticed a MEM /c I ran on that HDD Feb 2008. Why do the
available memory start out differently. There is small difference
in total RAM size, but by then doesn't DOS not care?
SYSTEM 17,344 (17K
Eric Auer wrote:
Ages ago there where some discussions about DOSzilla (Mozilla Firefox
for DOS) but the project was never released and is dead.
Firefox for DOS would be a killer application, pretty cool.
I remember the suggestion coming in from time to time but I also
remember the insane
Travis Siegel wrote:
there's very little that I can't access due to lack of flash support.
Keep looking. It is getting to be more all the time. And it is
content, not just adds. And some sites that worked fine with version 5
apparently had nothing better to do and upgraded to later
Is no one else running DOS on late model machines to do actual work. My
primary machines now are Pentium D. With a mix of PATA and SATA. I
have rather recent suites from Corel and M$. But my word processor of
choice is still WP 6.2a DOS. My accounts payable program was written in
1995.
I just got a replacement laptop.
I have a 1.0 CD and a 1G, USB, thumb drive that brings up what looks
like the same menu as the CD. Both try to load XCDROM and report No
CD-ROM to use. Of course the CD had to use the CD drive to get to that
point.
Any idea what is going on?
Ray
Eric Auer wrote:
Drivers like gcdrom alone only give low-level CD/DVD, no ISO9660.
The CD/DVD is SATA. Since I didn't find xgcdrom I tried gcdrom. Seems
to work. What benefit would I see with xgcdrom?
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Eric Auer wrote:
Hi!
Drivers like gcdrom alone only give low-level CD/DVD, no ISO9660.
So apparently the ISO9660 file system is becoming common and older
drivers won't work, true?
Xgcdrom is xcdrom (ATAPI) and gcdrom (S-ATA) combined into
one driver, so you can use both types of CD/DVD
ramin wrote:
Hi I saw that it was possible to run freedos from a usb.
I have two thumb drives that I cloned from a boot floppy with the HP
utility. On my laptop - which has no A: - they both work, but one boots
as A: and the other as C:. I am going to keep the A:.
Ray
IHPFS.EXE seems to work. It has a provision for selecting drive letter.
However, the HPFS partition is located amongst FAT 1632 partitions
whose drive letters are assigned during config.sys load. Can I load it
in config.sys or somehow reserve/assign the drive letter that represents
the
The boot process identifies all the HDD partitions then:
Incorrect DOS version
Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256
Enter .
Suggestions?
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Ray Davison wrote:
The boot process identifies all the HDD partitions then:
Incorrect DOS version
Bad or missing Command Interpreter: command.com /P /E:256
Enter .
The floppy had a 2003 Command.com. The bat went looking for a copy of
command.com on the HDD and that is what it found
Bernd Blaauw wrote:
How was the bootdisk created?
The included bat. See my previous post where I described the fix.
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Alain Mouette wrote:
Tom Ehlert escreveu:
unlikely. while O/UHCI is certainly fast enough for
keyboards/mice/printers(?), noone want to have different USB ports in
he same computer
Ok
plug your USB stick/external disk/DVD-ROM into an OHCI/UHCI port,
and you will be VERY dissatisfied
I just defraged C:, and now executing attrib - with or without
parameters - yields;
SYS0318: Message file OSO001.MSG cannot be found for message .
Why?
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Felix Miata wrote:
As long as some type of boot manager is employed to choose among installed
operating systems, both DOS and Linux are totally competent to coexist on one
computer system.
Hi Felix:
The only time I ever got Linux to install on a drive that already had an
OS, it only
Alain Mouette wrote:
The RTL8139D is very nice.
the only problem is that there has been some fakes around :(
Alain
Buzzer escreveu:
Could anyone advice me best network adapter which are able to work
under FreeDOS?
1) Intel 82559 PCI
2) RTL 8139 PCI
I load a Realtek RTL8139 driver in
I recently swapped my wife's CRT for a used 20, IBM ThinkVision. The
image is shifted up about an inch which puts a pull-down bar off-screen.
Win and eCS (OS/2) are OK.
Ideas?
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Ray Davison wrote:
So far I have not found such a button, and Google is no help.
OK, OK, so there is a button. And it even works.
Thank you all
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Is it possible to get DOS to use a print server such as this?
http://tinyurl.com/ykf3raz
TY
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I got that message running:
4DOS ATTRIB /A:-A -H -R -S /D /S *.*
on a 14G FAT32 partition about 66% full. It was at the end of the
screen display. I assume the operation terminated early.
What does it imply?
Ray
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If there is a sub-directory present on a floppy, CHKDSK report seems
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Assertion failed: size, file bitfield.c, line 34
Abnormal program termination
Is this to be expected?
Ray
Is there such a batch command?
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Karen Lewellen wrote:
A question mainly for those who use dos alone and purely on your
machines. I am asking how you do large backup work yourself now? say
3 gig or so?
I have a couple suggestions for your consideration.
First, anyone who is doing anything serious with a PC needs this:
James Hahn wrote:
Hello Ray,
Thanks for sharing pictures of your setup. It's a real fascinating
setup. Other than a duplicating machine, what function does it serve
while connected to your network?
It is primarily a storage box. In it's normal mode it has one boot/app
drive, three
Mark LaPierre wrote:
Hey Y'all,
Does FreeDOS provide support for USB ports?
The DFSee boot CD runs FreeDOS. It can access thumb drives and USB
connected HDDs.
Dies that prove anything where you are concerned?
Ray
Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
Asking for the person still doing that Dr dos 703 thing.
What is the largest drive capacitor for the current edition of freedos?
There has been much discussion regarding which DOS might do what on
which machine. Actually determining which will actually work
Single Stage to Orbit wrote:
On Sun, 2012-11-11 at 16:36 +0100, Bernd Blaauw wrote:
I remember the old days of having 4 (primary? extended? logical?)
FAT16 partitions of 2GB each, allowing up to 8GB total.
I remember using 32MB partitions :-)
My first HDD was 28M, and I created three
sakura kinomoto wrote:
Can anybody write customisable software, for selecting colors for
dos? for example, yellow-on-blue or white-on-black, or (excellent)
with changeable colour scheme?
PRISM from 1990. Create color profiles. Call a different profile for
each app.
As I recall it cost me
Is there something like this in FD?
IF NOT EXIST X:\ZZZ MD X:\ZZZ
Everything in front of the MD is ignored, and there is an error if
X:\ZZZ does exist.
TY
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Eric Auer wrote:
Yes of course: Type if /? to see how it should work.
I wondered thru the batch area but did not try that.
IF NOT EXIST X:\ZZZ\NUL MKDIR X:\ZZZ
OK that works.
TY
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Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys?
I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a
drive letter before the DVDs.
What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7?
TY
Ray
Ray Davison wrote:
Is it possible to load an exe file system driver in dconfig.sys?
I have a DOS HPFS driver that works OK, but I would like it to get a
drive letter before the DVDs.
What is available for reading NTFS used in WXP, W7?
Let me explain the actual task. I have FreeDOS and two
dmccunney wrote:
Oh by the way if you want to install XP on FAT32, it will work without being
activated.
XP on FAT32? shudder
Why the shudder? I have never run WXP on anything but FAT32. Currently
it is on four machines in the office plus whatever is in the shop. It
is a matter of
Ray Davison wrote:
Install to HDD;
Reboot
After boot from CD, blinking cursor at left margin
I chose selection 1, copy DOS to MBR - or some such.
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Rugxulo wrote:
In other words, what specifically are you trying to do? What files do
you need on there? What machines / environments are you trying to use?
I use a floppy to boot a machine for maintenance and occasionally to run
SYS from. All I need FreeDOS to put on there is KERNEL and
I have an accounting app from the early 90s. I first ran it under DRDOS
and then FreeDOS for about a decade. I have looked at many other
accounting apps but have not found anything that works better for me.
The primary functions have always worked well. However, a couple years
ago the
From: Ray Davison <ray...@charter.net>
I have an accounting app from the early 90s. I first ran it under DRDOS
and then FreeDOS for about a decade. I have looked at many other
accounting apps but have not found anything that works better for me.
The primary functions have always worke
A small side trip about real work in real DOS.
Since Win2K, my desktops have had a 2G, FAT16 primary at the front of
the first HDD, carrying DOS and a boot manager, and two Win partitions,
both logicals. Every other partition is a logical. Using that layout I
am now running FreeDOS 1.1 and
Jerome Shidel wrote:
To create a custom CD for each user who downloads FreeDOS is not practical.
Where in all this discussion did anyone suggest "a custom CD for each
user"? In my scheme the system would only have two ISOs: the basic, and
a TBD "extras". The user would create his own
Jim Hall wrote:
What do you think?
I see two disks and an archive.
My primary word processor and accounting programs are DOS. Yes I have
"modern" versions for those functions, but I do not consider them to be
improvements. It is extra work to chase stuff around a screen.
So what you
I will keep DOS running primarily for accounting and word-processing,
because none of the "modern" apps have given me reason to change.
However, I have about fifteen linear feet of software and third party
books that I may have used but mostly acquired because I thought it
might be useful
I also have my first seven PCs. They start at AT.
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I also have my first seven PCs. They start at AT.
28Meg, double height HDD.
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Karen Lewellen wrote:
Oh and adapters for small devices like laptops, with software to
configure them.
I had a DOS LAN. The cards and disks are here, somewhere.
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Joao Silva wrote:
Hello.
I have to agree that a GUI mnakes life a bit easy when envolving a tyask
with a lot of files.
I disagree. You want to copy, move or delete files or whole trees? A
two panel, filemanager like Norton Commander and it's clones. Move - on
the same HDD, and I believe
I have posted pics of some stuff.
The last pic is two trays of a couple hundred Software of the Month Club
disks - mostly 5.25 and the last few are 3.5, freeware, category general
interest.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/aTdSyfEHbbdhKkxV7
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One of your pictures shows MagnaRAM:
How did you like it, in Win3 / Win95 actually?
I doubt that I ever installed it. Like I said, a lot of that stuff was
acquired because it looked like it might be useful. Most I ever got
around to playing with.
Ray
Eric Auer wrote:
Did you try to google for "freedos numlock"?
... duckduckgo does not find that page.
Better get a barge pole, because DuckDuckNoGo won't find jack **t...
To join that little off-topic: Is there ANY search
engine remaining which RESPECTS my search keywords?
This is at
I am maintaining several machines that do serious work on FD. For
several years they have all had FD 1.1. I just installed 1.2, basic,
over 1.1 on one machine. FD seemed to install OK, and took over booting
the partition as expected. FD 1.2 seemed to load OK. I then
reactivated the boot
Rugxulo wrote:
The 1.2 kernel has been renamed and moved,
I get "Can't load operating system. Press to reboot..."
Presumably just rename the kernel to "KERNEL.SYS" first. But you may
have to update the boot sector name, too (use SYS or maybe WDE).
What about the KERNEL location in the
Liam Proven wrote:
This BM and many versions of DOS go way back.
*What* boot manager? I have not seen you specify it.
The only one I know of that name came with OS/2 and is about 25-30
years old, and TBH I would not expect it to work well on modern kit.
Acronis OS Selector V 5.0 2001
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had
multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the
front of the drive.
You just need a real boot
Ray Davison wrote:
[GlassNerves] via Freedos-user wrote:
Using only one HD, is this possible or can cause some conflit?
You all work much too hard. When things were in transition I had
multiple DOS as well as "DOS based" Win all on a single 2G FAT 16 at the
front of the drive.
Jim Hall via Freedos-user wrote:
I'm thinking about doing a video that shows how to do real work on DOS.
For me "Real work" included PC setup.
I used System Commander until I replaced it with Acronis OS Selector,
which I still use.
I also still use:
Acronis Disk Doctor
Norton Commander
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