Re: [FRIAM] Slow AI

2024-01-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
>Though these were all experienced and confident men, the average year to year correlation in their results was 0.01. The highly rewarded experts of finance have no real idea what they're doing, they are highly rewarded for an "illusion of skill"< One of my father-in-law's best friends was a man

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

2024-01-28 Thread Marcus Daniels
Eric writes: < It seems like I remember reading, years ago when this was in a spate of articles, about the anterior cingulate gyrus and the amygdala as brain regions that go active when some kind of conflict or heterogeneous input needs to be resolved somehow. > This seems consistent with

Re: [FRIAM] Honeymoon over!

2024-01-28 Thread Russ Abbott
Thanks, Jochen, I know about LangChain. I'm not claiming that LLMs cannot be used as elements of larger computations, just that LLMs on their own are quite limited. I'll make that point in the talk if the abstract is accepted. -- Russ Abbott Professor Emeritus, Computer Science California State

Re: [FRIAM] Slow AI

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Smith
REC - So prophetic!   love the coining of "gold" goo... and the idea of psuedopodia...   I'm sure I read this 12.5 years ago, but like the good LLM I am, I lost any possibility of attribution as soon as I'd trained on it! -SAS On 1/28/24 3:07 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: From: *Roger

Re: [FRIAM] Slow AI

2024-01-28 Thread Roger Critchlow
From: Roger Critchlow Date: Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Next Dictator To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group I keep thinking that the next big dictator isn't new. Das Kapital is an artificial life form which by a process of natural selection pursues

Re: [FRIAM] Slow AI

2024-01-28 Thread Roger Critchlow
Das Kapital is our most successful experiment in artificial life, but it's still feral and no one has the least clue how to domesticate it, and the grey goo we're constructing is a mass of collateralized debt instruments. -- rec -- On Sun, Jan 28, 2024 at 11:03 AM Steve Smith wrote: > >

Re: [FRIAM] Honeymoon over!

2024-01-28 Thread Jochen Fromm
Langchain is an agent framework started by Harrison Chase. A Langchain agent uses LLMs to reason in a perceive-reason-act cycle. One could argue that Langchain agents are able to think, and we are even able to watch them thinkinghttps://github.com/langchain-ai/langchaindeeplearning.ai has free

Re: [FRIAM] Breaking Bad and Free Will

2024-01-28 Thread David Eric Smith
I mostly sit on the sidelines in these freewill and choice discussions, because I don’t know what anybody else wants from the terms and the language using them. I wonder whether the people using them know what they want from them, or if they would regard that as a meaningful thing to ask of

Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Smith
On 1/27/24 10:25 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: People are rightly livid with the gas and electric utilities here in California, but the state is doing better than other states on renewables.  More than half the grid is solar during the day.  Large installations of batteries are in use and

Re: [FRIAM] Bad news about the climate

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Smith
I love me a good dose of Sabine... her flat-delivery of equally serious and glib lines is killer IMO... and for the most part I feel compelled to defer to her facts and analyses (almost) without reserve. (/around 13:30 she said "so mind-f#%#%ingly stupid" /). I'm surprised she didn't actually

Re: [FRIAM] Please join Zoom meeting in progress Virtual Friam

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Smith
Nick - Do you know if they do the ones on the left anti-chiral to those on the right like high-torque machinery and heavy truck lugs (don't ask me how I know this, only that I've broken a few wrenches with cheater bars from forgetting it). That close to the brain, you would think they would

Re: [FRIAM] Honeymoon over!

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Smith
And if you're interested, my long abstract submission to IACAP-2024 has related thoughts. (Scroll down until you get to the link for the actual paper.) Russ - I am interested in reading your abstract/paper..._ _ I signed

[FRIAM] Slow AI

2024-01-28 Thread Steve Smith
https://doctorow.medium.com/solar-is-a-market-for-financial-lemons-ea00699fe0a2 I suspect the opinions among the members of this list range widely on Doctorow's work, my general response to him is a guarded