Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/12/13 6:23 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: Or do you also need [..] doping [..] Saw this on /. this morning. http://people.umass.edu/gbecker/BeckerChes13.pdf Yikes.. Marcus FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays

[FRIAM] Hardware Trojans - was:] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread Steve Smith
Marcus/Glen - On 9/12/13 6:23 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: Or do you also need [..] doping [..] Saw this on /. this morning. http://people.umass.edu/gbecker/BeckerChes13.pdf Yikes.. Reading this article reminded me of the following: UNM/HPC did some Visualization work for Sandia regarding

[FRIAM] Raspberry Pi

2013-09-13 Thread Owen Densmore
I'm going to buy a Pi and need a little info. I've got Doug's posts: http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/07/delicious-raspberry-pi.html http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-second-helping-of-pi.html .. but wouldn't hurt to pick up on other's experiences too before building a

Re: [FRIAM] Hardware Trojans - was:] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread glen e. p. ropella
Steve Smith wrote at 09/13/2013 08:09 AM: On 9/12/13 6:23 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: Or do you also need [..] doping [..] Saw this on /. this morning. http://people.umass.edu/gbecker/BeckerChes13.pdf Yikes.. Reading this article reminded me of the following: [...] looking for

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 2:57 PM, glen wrote: If we know this is/will-be the case, then why press for absolute transparency at all? Why not be anarcho-capitalist and allow for the opacity of some, strategically allowed, opacity? The anarcho-capitalist will try to extract every bit of value from any

Re: [FRIAM] Raspberry Pi

2013-09-13 Thread Steve Smith
On 9/13/13 10:32 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: I'm going to buy a Pi and need a little info. I've got Doug's posts: http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/07/delicious-raspberry-pi.html http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/07/a-second-helping-of-pi.html .. but wouldn't hurt to pick up on other's

[FRIAM] Democracy + Market Economy == Open Source Governance?

2013-09-13 Thread Steve Smith
Marcus/Glen/et alii - I just listened to Amy Goodman's interview with Robert Riech http://www.democracynow.org/2013/9/13/inequality_for_all_robert_reich_warns on his new film, Inequality for All. I was caught enough by the following statement he made to look it up and consider it further

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread glen
Marcus G. Daniels wrote at 09/13/2013 02:59 PM: If people know how their hardware works, then some competitor can come along and create similar hardware at a lower price point. Provided an open source effort can come along and make a sort of similar VHDL design that puts them out of

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy + Market Economy == Open Source Governance?

2013-09-13 Thread Gary Schiltz
Proprietary Code (PC :-) has a place if people are willing to put up with it, but then most people don't realize there are alternatives. That old Freedom vs. Security thing seems apropos here. Many people are quite willing to put up with a little less freedom for a little more security. I'm not

Re: [FRIAM] Hardware Trojans - was:] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 10:02 AM, glen e. p. ropella wrote: But I'm too ignorant to understand the utility of the side-channel use case. How would the black hat get the chip into the right place? The same way? By flooding the target with chips that all contain the hidden side channel? Install staff at

Re: [FRIAM] Raspberry Pi

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 12:29 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Have hardware trojans been found in the wild yet? (meaning have they been discovered in other than an obvious, targeted venue?). The paper mentions VisionTech, but it sounds like that was mainly just a counterfeiting operation.

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 6:40 PM, glen wrote: Membership in the cabal comes from cognitive investment, not capital. I disagree. Membership in the set of cabal _tools_ ... the technically competent person, comes from cognitive investment. Ownership/control of those tools comes from capital, usually in the

Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Urgent: skype vulnerability?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 6:40 PM, glen wrote: So, it would work fairly well without a requirement for absolute transparency. If the goal is to develop versatile technical language, and someone effectively owns a bunch of the useful words (interfaces , ...) that is an impediment to giving everyone a fair

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy + Market Economy == Open Source Governance?

2013-09-13 Thread Arlo Barnes
*Some Incomplete and Scattered Thoughts* I missed some of the discussion and will have to catch up once I get the number of unread emails I have at least less than the current year :P but I don't see why true transparency wouldn't affect people becoming dominant through a better understanding of

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy + Market Economy == Open Source Governance?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 6:11 PM, Steve Smith wrote: Democracy itself is the act of writing code; the rules of execution of everything from government itself (compilers, interpreters, system libraries, OS) to economics to criminal justice (exception handling?) Ok, criminal Justice is more like crude

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy + Market Economy == Open Source Governance?

2013-09-13 Thread Steve Smith
Markus... Democracy itself is the act of writing code; the rules of execution of everything from government itself (compilers, interpreters, system libraries, OS) to economics to criminal justice (exception handling?) Ok, criminal Justice is more like crude block-device virus scanning for

Re: [FRIAM] Democracy + Market Economy == Open Source Governance?

2013-09-13 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 9/13/13 10:14 PM, Steve Smith wrote: No... I still think it is like an exception detection/handling process... enforcement is roughly detection and handling is roughly courts and penal? Intelligence is more like virus-scanning... Crimes are punished and criminals contained -- security