Re: [FRIAM] Apocalypse in Japan
with all due respect I think it wasn't needed to troll about nuclear power. It's not perfect. Japan isn't perfect. It's a time to pool together international relief. What if a freek huricane or tornado hit new mexico? I'd hope that we'd be seeking aid reguardless of personal politics. On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: A strong earthquake, a massive tsunami, a volcano eruption and an explosion of a nuclear plant. Can it be worse? http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/japan_-_vast_devastation.html Every crisis is also a chance. John F. Kennedy observed that when written in Chinese, the word 'crisis' is composed of two characters - one represents danger, and the other represents opportunity, see http://bit.ly/fxpvlf Maybe this is a good opportunity to move away from nuclear power. Such a catastrophe could happen to San Francisco, too, anytime. What about California's nuclear power plants? -J. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Apocalypse in Japan
in the US the problem isn't just saftey it's NIMBY. (not in my back yard). I'm far far far from being an expert on whats bog standard practice to store spent rods. That being said the very few physics i've talked to have said right off theoreticly you could store spent cells just abount anywhere sighting that these days that you get more exposer to harmful radiation over the course of a cross countery plane trip than about a year of 'leaked' radiation from spent rods. IF it's politicly viable to store Japans spent rods i'd think they'd apraciat any assistance at all. As to news papers: meh. i'm not sure nuclear has THAT much of loby strength more likely that it's wall street journal taking a conservative tone to writing.(caveat: i haven't read any news papers re: the situation in japan). Just as a side note: you do realize that ironicly oil spills cause more environmental damage radiation leaks? On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: If you read the Wall Street Journal, then you get the impression the situation is not that bad at all, it is only unconfortable for Tepco (Tokyo Electric Power Company). If you follow the media and read the newspapers here in Germany, you get a completely different opinion. You get the impression that this is the worst atomic crisis since Chernobyl. This is what the people wanted to hear, because the majority of people in Germany is against power from nuclear power plants. I guess it started with the Chernobyl disaster, which affected Western Europe much more than the USA. Maybe the media in the US focuses on different things, because the people want to hear something else? Or is the US nuclear industry so strong that it can influence the public opinion? I think the worries are justified, it is indeed the worst atomic crisis since Chernobyl. We have seen now for the first time what happens if an earthquake or a tsunami hits a nuclear power plant directly: from a nuclear catastrophe to a nuclear meltdown, everything is possible. We have seen in Japan how dangerous nuclear waste is (a fire broke out in the reactor's fuel storage pond - an area where *used* nuclear fuel is kept cool). I think this sheds new light on unsolved problems, since the nuclear waste problem as a whole is completely unsolved, isn't it? If it is so safe to store it, then the US could store it for others. Maybe that is the solution for the economic crisis, the U.S. becomes the world's largest nuclear-waste dump. We will take your waste if you pay for it.. -J. - Original Message - From: Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 4:29 AM Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Apocalypse in Japan with all due respect I think it wasn't needed to troll about nuclear power. It's not perfect. Japan isn't perfect. It's a time to pool together international relief. What if a freek huricane or tornado hit new mexico? I'd hope that we'd be seeking aid reguardless of personal politics. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Apocalypse in Japan
Well not just that but hopefuly it's a time to apreciat the unreal amount of help asia does for the global economy. That being said offshoring is a horrible way to run the US economy. It makes it way to sustible to not just economic problems but natural acts of God! More work done 'in house' in the long run produces more job oprotunaties and ensures that companies need not unduly wory about certain what ifs: from earthquakes to just being fickle. On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Alfredo Covaleda alfredocoval...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Who is going to produce the good and services that Japan is stoping to manufacture because of the disaster? My probably raw opinion is that an unfortunate event like this one, is the oportunity that US needs to reactive his economy. ¿Isn't it? Alfredo C. 2011/3/15 Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net A strong earthquake, a massive tsunami, a volcano eruption and an explosion of a nuclear plant. Can it be worse? http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2011/03/japan_-_vast_devastation.html Every crisis is also a chance. John F. Kennedy observed that when written in Chinese, the word 'crisis' is composed of two characters - one represents danger, and the other represents opportunity, see http://bit.ly/fxpvlf Maybe this is a good opportunity to move away from nuclear power. Such a catastrophe could happen to San Francisco, too, anytime. What about California's nuclear power plants? -J. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- Alfredo FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] craigs list q
Good call. I called up Central Christian College. This person (a bob pemo with a gmail adress) isn't on staff! Further naling it as a scam in so far as the Bursars office was conerned they'd have used a university email adress and not have taken it as an afront when wanting assurance it's legit. They thanked me for reporting and want me to keep the check around for possible criminal investigation purposes, as well as to keep an eye out on my cell phone in case they have any questions. On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 3:18 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Gillian, I would start by calling the Bursar at Central Christian College. That person should be straightforward, down-to-earth, and should have an explanation for this odd procedure. It doesn't sound right to me, I have to say. What does test out Western Union mean? Let us know how it comes out. Nick -Original Message- From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Gillian Densmore Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:07 PM To: Friam@redfish.com Subject: [FRIAM] craigs list q Hi this is gillian densmore, I've apparently been hired by someone working for central christian college to test out western union- but how do I know if it's legit? The college sent me a large check a big portion of wich is to be wired to someone else. There isn't a contract though, leaving me feeling a bit uneasy. is this par for course for craigs list? Also when asked if it was ok to double check his background he didn't respond very profesionaly asking if i'm trying to insult him. Wouldn't it be understandable to want to do so in this day and age of scams? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] blog recomendations?
Wordpress is indeed pretty sweet. You might also want to check out googles I think it's called blogger you may need a google acount to use it. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Robert J. Cordingley rob...@cirrillian.com wrote: Hi Eric WordPress. If you get stuck or need some customizing I can help you. There are tons of plugins for almost anything - very extensible. Robert Cordingley cirrillian.com On 5/17/11 4:56 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote: Hey all, Against all my wife's better judgment, I am considering starting a blog. Enough of my professional colleagues have them, and enough interesting stuff seems to be happening on them, that it seems a good idea. I was hoping for some collective wisdom about the pros and cons of different blogging platforms. I do, in theory, have the ability to host it myself, or to use Penn State's in-house system, but my initial inclination is to go with an established entity that makes it easy to do things like track other blogs and track user stats. I'm not even sure what other factors I should care about. Again, any collective wisdom would be appreciated! Thanks, Eric FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Swype | Text Input for Screens
Yes. Love it. It draws a line frome latter to letter. Though at times my fingers cover parts of the keys. You can borrow my phone and try it out. On Jun 3, 2011 5:13 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Has anyone tried swype keyboards .. I guess mainly on andriod? http://www.swypeinc.com/index.html I hope its as good as it sounds! -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] looking for used gizmo
Subject line needs help- but heres the kind of thing i'm looking for: it's nice weather, it'd be nice to have a gizmo that'd allow for working on web pages for class, perferably can run dream weaver- doesn't need to do graphics just something fun and simple and used (in good shape) that's budget concous- what kind of gizmo would fit the bill? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] [WedTech] Android: Root It? Or are there phones that come unlocked/jailbroken?
I had a short discution with some friends sort of related to the iOS vs Android topic and it came down to this: iOS is a bit more forgiving on the end user end and by and large has a set audiance, while Android has a bit more diversity. Company politics company polotics... I guess it realy comes down to: Ok so wich companies model do you prefer? Android (at least for the moment) being more cloud centric-some free apps some for pay (though cheep) apps? Where as iOS you have only one phone. Some Android OS phones do target specific audiances wich even the relatively conservative CNET has critisized (such as motorolas Defty and Droid). From reviews the Galaxy netpad and phone are relatively light in terms of preinstalled apps.I don't know anything about the icloud it might be a bit early to say-googles been in the cloud model for longer than apple. On the other hand Apples has been in the OS and Computing business long enough that they could have a sexy nich. The question you may want to ask yourself though is since both companies are being dicks which one is the smaller dick? All cariers suck to be honest. Though verizon slightly less so. And yes to 'do as I please with a netpad and or AndroidOS phone you'll need to be prepared to pay a lot. Although with a few small exceptions everyphone and netpad have some mechanic to unlock them. On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: [Note: widened from wedtech to include friam, see attached.] From /.: Advocacy Group Files FCC Complaint Over Verizon Tethering Ban http://goo.gl/ynL9A I believe I now am in the same spot with android as with iphone: I will have to at least jail break any phone I own, and heck, might as well unlock it while I'm at it. This surprises me. Android was to be the hacker's delight, a Google no evil phone that allows me to use it as I please. Not a sissy iphone where Apple rules my life and limits my options. After yesterdays announcement of the iTunes cloud (where they store not only your bought media in their cloud, but any CDs you rip and have in iTunes!!), I'm rethinking just how free Google etc are over Apple. I still plan to complete my conversion to gmail, and the Google ecology has lots of advantages. But Apple is gaining fast with everything (mail, contacts, calendar, music, bookmarks, ...) in iCloud and accessible everywhere. If this works, and that's a big IF, and if they can be cross-platform .. at least windows if not linux/unix (a bigger IF!), Google will start to look like a chaotic mess of non-integrated parts while Apple, once again, solves the user's problem. http://daringfireball.net/2011/06/demoted -- Owen On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:56 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: The Vibrant came with tethering and wifi hotspot applications installed, but I haven't tried them. You want an unlocked phone, then buy a Nexus-S. Consider it a $500 vote for the phone you want to use. You want a subsidized phone, then be prepared to put up with all the crapware and attempts to control your usage that the manufacturers and carriers feel like trying out on you. -- rec -- On Fri, Jun 3, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: I thought android was open .. i.e. you could install just about anything you'd like. But I just read about tethering wifi, and the story had options from rooting the phone to fairly expensive (and dubious) apps. So what's the deal here. Is it open? Or am I back to hacking my phone like I had to do with iPhone jailbrake/unlock? Or is it somewhere in between. How many of us are tethering wifi nowadays? Do the carriers care? -- Owen -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] blog stuff for the average bear?
Hi all after a bit of proding from the famly and one of them making a domain for me it has come to my attention they thought it'd be nice if in the process of seting up my website I added a blog. I'm kinda stuck to what solution to use! i've checked out wordpress in the past and theming it made my eyes glaze over. Some reviews swear by drupal. Any thoughts for the average bear? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] dream weaver tutor?
Hi all! -Background: in school in part to weather out the economy. took a webdesign class. prof showed a bit of interest in having me in the next web design class he teaches. but It has a focus on dreamweaver of wich I know nothing about. Is there someone on the list and or at the complex that'd be able to tutor for it? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Cell Service/Tower/Reception/Repeaters/etc.
Depending on the phone there might be a # code to get it to search for more frequencies. Might take a bit of diging though. My oold Cinguluar phone for instance used #689# that let it borrow other towers in range. I'll check for the potenial andriod # codes to see if there's something simillar. On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I'm hoping *someone* out there knows more about this than I do, though none of the earlier discussion seemed to bring any of that out. I took up Gary Nelson's question about Cell Towers/Coverage, my own frustrations, and the other resulting conversations to do a little research and see if I could learn more and maybe even fix up some of my own problems/challenges. I'm testing iPhone 2, 3G, 4 against ATT and T-Mobile SIMS right now. Mostly at my house (very marginal signal if any) but will be doing other places. I'm looking at Cell Repeaters (primarily for my home, but maybe also mobile). I'm therefore *mostly* sorting out GSM related issues, but there is a lot of overlap in general RF issues, repeaters, tower locations, etc. I started trying to write up what I know (so far) and discovered that (as often is the case) the more I know, the more I know I don't know. My 3rd Class Radiotelephony license from 1974 and a BS in Physics provides just enough background to get me in trouble. I wrote a long, rambly overview of what I know (dominated by what that made me realize I *didn't* know) and decided most of you don't care. So, if there are others trying to make actionable sense (or merely slake your curiosity) about the issues of Cell Reception and the potential use of Repeaters, ping me and we can discuss offline. Maybe once we learn enough, one or more of us can write up a (more) concise lessons learned. My long-winded ramble was useful (to me) already, as trying to explain it to the larger crowd caused me to dig just a little deeper than I was for more practical reasons. Now to get my nose back on the practical grindstone. - Steve -- FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] [sfx: Discuss] Lessig OccupyBoston
I agre that the protestors seem to have quite a few agendas in so far as corperations go. One the other hand sometimes they do ask some of the right questions http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=133297080105221set=a.131495456952050.18782.129365397165056type=1ref=nf ie why is healthcare adequate housing a meeningful and fufilling job a privlidge? I have no political science proof but more than one ny times article has said that they (the coffeparty) from a 2 store view they're mad about some of the right things. (can't fine the link) did ask why hasn't Obama and crew adressed the coffe party. After having done some time with californa. sen. john burton one lesson learned was that when a constiuancy gets super pissed it's vital to have some sort of actionable plan inside 24hours or it just gains traction. What was spooky is that the day I did a blog entery (http://www.gilsplace.net/blog- and yes it's work friendly) they posted that 'second bill of rights' that I linked. Another question is: is this a generation thing, just something in the US polotics air about peeple feeling malcontent with US politics? I also agre that if the coffe party is serius and realy wants to bring the varius entities to the table they have to provide a realistic do able alternative. Like say x says: ok your right on 5 areas: what do they plan to tell those 5(being optopmistic) policy seters? They can't simply say: oh a economy based on gambling doesn't work. They'll need to say here's our proposed 10 easy steps to ween off of wallstreet and here's the proof that it'll work. On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:35 AM, ERIC P. CHARLES e...@psu.edu wrote: But there is a real weirdness about many of the protesters. Captured very well with this image: http://weaselzippers.us/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/OWS-Evil-Corporations.jpg It's as if these people know what they are fighting, but have no clue how to fight it. Ghandi got people to hand weave clothes and to march to the sea to make salt. He knew what the score was. During the fights over racism in the US, people who were upset about racist rules regarding bus riding refused to ride the bus! They new they could force the bus company to comply or go bankrupt... and it worked. In contrast, these people are protesting the same things they are clearly patronizing. As Owen points out: Down with the evil corporation! they send out on Twitter, with a tie in to their Facebook or Google+ page, featuring a link to a Youtube video that will be covered with Toyota ads, uploaded from their Motorola phone, over the ATT network, in the hopes that I will access it over my Comcast broadba! nd from my Dell. Seriously, you get the impression that if Coca Cola offered corporate sponsorship in the form of bottled water, soda, sun shades, and logo-covered out houses, it would be a done deal. I'm not against the protest. This country has serious issues to work out, and many of the protesters scattered points are valid. But there are some simple steps to fighting the battle that are being missed. If you want to hurt the evil corporations with their super-rich owners... stop giving them your money. Technologically, I thought some of the most interesting things about the Arab spring were all the creative ways protesters circumvented popular, corporate-run communication channels (in their case because the government shut down access). Surely it would be possible to do the same here if people really wanted to make a principled stand. Eric On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 12:40 PM, Paul Paryski ppary...@aol.com wrote: The Occupy/AE phenomenon might be an excellent example of emergence? An Occupy ABM? Clearly any mass protect movement will be chaotic with many agendas finding expression. As is the case in Europe where Occupy is receiving large press coverage, the main motivation is that the very rich Wall Street gang largely caused the economic crisis and it is the poor and middle class who must pay the bill while the super rich, corporations and the financial sector get bailout $$ and no real reg reform. I hope some of you will participate in Santa Fe's Occupy protest at the Roundhouse on Saturday. cheers, Paul -Original Message- From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net To: Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com; discuss disc...@sfcomplex.org Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 6:21 am Subject: [sfx: Discuss] Lessig OccupyBoston Larry Lessig is one of the more interesting twitter feeds: Lessig The Harvard Tea Party students joined the #OccupyBoston march yesterday. http://t.co/aKMkU6Ji#criticallyimportantfirststeps #rootstrikers I'm surprised just how intense the whole American Spring has become. I don't watch TV news shows, but my impression is that there is not much media coverage. The AS is hard to classify and there are many elements so that I think it has caught the media off guard. And naturally it is not in their interest, or at least so they think. But
Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.
Personally I think a open diolague about a broken system at all levels is a Good Thing. It's even better though when people start proposing solutions. Kim Sorvig noted that the US economy is basicly run by gambling-ie investments in Wall Street. I don't have enough game theory or economics to show why that's a bad thing. I can show that as far back as Wall Street has existed it's become a increesingly bad design though. Speeking of the man- with T-Mobile US future somewhat in doubt i've been doing some diging and came across something interesting: http://www.shopstraighttalk.com/ offers for 45USD a plan that includes unlimited data- the downside is that in newmexico they don't offer droid phones (yet). As much as I like the idea of going to verizon- how do they get off on charging 50USD for a REQUIRED unlimited Data package-unless you go through the webstore and get 4g data as a addon package? I point this out because IF my friends start up gets off the ground she wants me on bord in some copacity-but that'd meen moving back the bay. I can't justify paying 95 dollars for cellphone service just because i'd need directions. The other interesting one is: http://www.earthtones.com/ they claim that if a phone isn't offered you can get ahold of them and try to make arangements. Plus they have midling coverage. Here's another interesting question: Why does CDMA from verizon have bad ass coverage compared to T-Mobile that's spoty at best where you need it? (like roads or hotels.) On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 9:07 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Dear Local Friammers, snip Thank you for the report, interesting. I stipulate that this is not the place for a political discussion and that many of you would probably disagree with me vehemently on many matters, so I will leave it at that. As soon as there is a local distribution list or equivalent, there will be no need to discuss such matters in this forum, for which, I assume, many of you will be grateful. WTF? Why *not* talk about things of this nature here? We've often done so in the past. Back to the discussion of cellphone apps. Ah, now your talking! But usually not about apps as far as I recall, more about core tech and being fucked over by The Man. CDMA, GSM, 2G, 3G and more, but appps? Not much but to congratulate Tyler on his success. Nick FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] 99%, occupyWallStreet, Santa Fe, etc.
Interesting discution going on here. Feeling like one of the 99% on some levels. Rich Muray's proposed list on some levels makes sense. Higher min wage for example how are you suposed to actually live on $9.00 an hour? even full time that's only 360 a week (before tax). Ouch. Another one that stuck out was free health care- could work. Depending on how it's implimented. The general idea of more stuff taken for baseline for more (or all ) citizens and increasing the quality of life would seem to provide some net benifits. I think Nick asked how it gets funded wich might realy be asking: as humans are we willing to pool together a pot of money to increase the quality of life for all? Just as a here in the comunity example: I'm going to school to (theoreticly) increase my odds of being a productive citizen by X%. Should one of the applications and varius forms of asistance pan out I have a net X% extra chance of employment at the end of the week I'd rather my hard earned money going to a pot of money that helps raise quality of life for my self and others by X%. Theoreticly humans are programed to work together twards a better good. At some point of year N things get jaded or complicated and as Agents we loose sight that a healthy comunity of N people(or agents) makes for a stronger whole. Wouldn't it therefore be better to invest y sources of rescources twards things that achieve that goal? just my as a 0.2c as a agent among many. . On Thu, Oct 27, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Rich Murray rmfor...@gmail.com wrote: Since my remarks were perhaps tersely shocking, here is a clear overview by James Traverse: http://www.beingyoga.com/ [ For more, search Google nonduality... ] Know Thyself Be a Light unto Yourself Form is Seeing and Seeing is Being. ~ Atmananda Krishna Menon Being is Seeing and Seeing is Doing ~ James Traverse Liberation is from the person, not for the person ~ Jean Klein Mistaken identity, the wrong turning of the mind, is the cause of all conflict and discord. The solution is the living understanding of your true nature which is not thought based knowledge as it is prior to thinking. Awareness is the means and the end. There is nothing to become since Being Awareness is already happening yet there is a returning to innocence knowingly as the false mentally generated knowledge of mistaken identity is seen and allowed to fall away. This Living Awareness as your true nature is the light of understanding that dispels the darkness of ignorance that is the root of mistaken identity and separation. “You cannot solve a problem from the same consciousness that created it. You must learn to see the world anew.” ~ Albert Einstein The problem of mistaken identity is a problem of self-knowledge as false knowledge of your true nature. It is a mentally generated problem that is resolved by Awareness as the primal intelligence that sees the false as false and no longer supports it. In this way the impostor of mistaken identity dies through starvation - what remains is pure Awareness wherein all of your faculties are free to function without distortion. Enlightenment is a matter of discernment, not evolution. Thus there is no becoming enlightened; instead the veil of ignorance falls away through discrimination and there is seeing in-the-light of your true nature. Enlightened Being - Being is happening - Breathing is happening the Agent is the Actor - Love is what it does! What nature makes you do instinctively you can optimise when you understand the law governing the process. ~ James Traverse FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] syncing google calander with a android
So like while not the busiest person, anyone know how to sync a google calander with a android and vice versa? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] linux? and also how to backup bookmarks?
Oh Windows 7 how I kinda sorta love you. (other than the 5-7 unique malwares it gave me) so like the subject says considering linux but before I drink the koolaid need to back up my bookmarks. and despite almost a year with html I don't have the fogiest clue what a good way to do that is. On a side note so far top linux winers are:PCLOS.Ubuntu/Kubunto or OpenSUSE. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] CERN to announce Higgs boson observation at LHC | ExtremeTech
Not a physicist myself- one of the articles the article linked to did mention the possablility of there not being a higgs-boson but other mechanics to explain how stuff aquires mass. -GD On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 1:07 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: fyi http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/108599-cern-to-announce-higgs-boson-observation-at-lhc Perhaps. We shall see. -tj FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] CERN to announce Higgs boson observation at LHC | ExtremeTech
Not a expert on string theory in so far as I know Green and co. MIGHT prefer to use some mechanic other than the Higgs Boson to explain how and why stuff gets mass. On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:04 AM, Greg Sonnenfeld gsonn...@gmail.com wrote: I think the odds are quite high that there will be a press conference. Yes, i would say it falls between 2.0 and 3.5 standard deviations. Greg Sonnenfeld Junior programmers create simple solutions to simple problems. Senior programmers create complex solutions to complex problems. Great programmers find simple solutions to complex problems. The code written by topnotch programmers may appear obvious, once it is finished, but it is vastly more difficult to create. On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 10:02 PM, Carl Tollander c...@plektyx.com wrote: Another discussion: http://www.math.columbia.edu/~woit/wordpress/ I think the odds are quite high that there will be a press conference. One should not take anything said as evidence for or against any particular string theory, despite what media commentary will happen afterwards. carl On 12/12/11 1:07 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: fyi http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/108599-cern-to-announce-higgs-boson-observation-at-lhc Perhaps. We shall see. -tj FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] American Airlines Gets FAA Approval to Use iPad During All Phases of Flight
One small problem: what happens when the ipad crashes? The techie in me is well aware of what happens when a OS crashes I don't think anyone wants to here: umm sorry for the detour our charts chrashed. On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 5:31 PM, q...@aol.com wrote: Hmmm...could this be a spoof as a result of Alec Baldwin's recent contretemps aboard an AA flight for refusing to turn off his iPad while the plane was still at the gate but the cabin door closed? - Claiborne - On Dec 13, 2011, at 22:49, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: How Star Trek: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=18725 I'm wondering just how useful this is .. is it really better than whatever they did before? Or is it just a look at me stunt. Anyway, you'll certainly feel more secure with trek-y pads. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Cell Service/Tower/Reception/Repeaters/etc.
Adding to this frustration Santa Fe isn't to hot on allowing cell providers to install new towers. (fwack) I'd have to check a reliable source-it might be possible root a iphone to improve it's signal strength- but glad to here the repeater scenario is somewhat of a improvement. I here good things about google voice- haven't used it myself. On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 7:34 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Just to follow up on this thread for those who care: I finally got around to ordering (and then got around to installing) a Wilson Electronics DB Pro with a directional (Yagi) outdoor receiving antenna and an omnidirectional indoor antenna. It is a dual band transciever, essentially taking in whatever signal it finds in those bands from the Yagi and retransmitting them (after amplification) on the omni (to be placed at least 20 feet away and not in front of the Yagi). I'm testing against T-Mobile on an iPhone4 (not 4s). My wife is still on ATT with her iPhone 2g (soon to be replaced with a 4s), I'll do some testing there as well. For those of you who followed the earlier thread, my location near Otowi bridge on NM 502 at the Rio Grande has almost zero effective cell coverage. We are down low and all the known towers (espanola, pojoaque, white rock, pajarito mountain) nearby are either marginally line of site or completely blocked by intermediate topography. My goal is to get good enough coverage to delete my wired landline service (which we hardly use even with cell phones not working)... I expect to use my wireless (900Mhz from Tewacom) with Skype to provide a backup alternative to the Cell coverage. I'm testing Google Voice to integrate it all (hah!). Using the aforementioned field test mode on my iPhone4 I was able to verify that I was getting a modestly better signal... using the RSSI (received signal strength indicator) measure in the field test mode, I was able to roughly map the net strength of signal to my phone with and without the repeater turned on. The Yagi is about 15 feet above the ground (a permanent installation will b ecloser to 20) facing roughly due East which is both my best guess as to where the tower I'm most likely to use is, and corroborated by some ad-hoc direction testing with the RSSI. The Omni is roughly in the center of my 30'x30'x20'(tall) stucco-mesh-frame faraday cage of a house. At the location of the Yagi, my signal strength is roughly the same whether the system is on or not (not surprising as one step in the installation is to reduce the retransmit strength until there is no detected interference). At the opposite end of the house, the signal is similar with the system on and virtually zero without it (far end of my faraday cage of a house)... at ground level, I normally see from 0 to 1.5 bars which means I get the occasional incoming call that i can't answer and can rarely call out (to the point of never trying). With the system on I get a very usable signal equal to 3 bars... As I wander away from the house outside, the rebroadcast signal drops off fairly quickly but it appears I might get useable signal on most of my 1.5 acre property where previously I had a few hot spots where I might get enough to catch an incoming call for a few seconds. I am testing with data as we speak and so far, so bad... in fact, the whole signal dropped out in the middle of my attempt to get to my favorite speed-test site (speakeasy.net) and of course, when I got there, I am told that my favorite method requires Flash 7, apparently not on my Safari/iPhone4 (not surprising). So I'll have to find a better solution for testing... meanwhile anecdotally, Google Maps loads at least as slow as I'm used to *anywhere* without wifi. Well, fortunately I don't care so much about Data, or at all at home where I have WiFi. Overall I'd say the Wilson system works well, mostly as expected and seems to meet my needs/desires. Internet research suggests that Wilson is the best system with only a few spurious compliants while all the other options have many complaints (though many of those sound spurious as well?!). FWIW, it is also worth noticing that Wilson Electronics is a small-town company out of St. George Utah... the quality of their engineering, packaging, documentation, online support rivals that of any large scale consumer product supplier I know of. That said, there may be little going on in St George beyond shipping... the parts and primary packaging may come directly from China and there may be nothing more than a small warehouse in St. George, but indications are that the engineering and support may becoming from there as well. A business article linked from their website suggests that they sell 200,000 units per year and hired 50 new employees in the last quarter... clearly a big deal for a small town like St. George. Let me know if you are interested in more specifics. - STeve Gil -
Re: [FRIAM] Explainer: understanding Sopa | World news | guardian.co.uk
Nanci Paloski(sp) has stated that in essence SOPA is to heavy handed. Google has argude with mixed luck that the DMCA and Copyright law is sufficient for what SOPA wants to achieve.(See NY times articles). What bugs me about it-IF it passes google could get a court order because someone searched for Linux torent and ISO. BUT Because of the keywords ISO and Torent google would theoreticly have to contact someone who knows someone. Just a bad idea. On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 1:46 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: If you are a U.S. citizen, this is important. Explainer: understanding Sopa Will 2012 see the end of the internet as we know it? The House Judiciary committee tried to finalize the Stop Online Piracy Act (Sopa) before Christmas for a vote early next year. But fierce opposition – much of it online – seems to have given pause to the bill's main author, Lamar Smith. He is now expected to hear from expert witnesses early next year before the bill goes to Congress. Watch this video for a guide to the fight that will likely become one of the big stories of the coming year http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/interactive/2011/dec/23/sopa-stop-online-piracy-act FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] one rep wanting to get re-elected-- can politicions evolve?
Rep hansen clake introducing a bill to forgive student loans: . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QEj-vIOIXkfeature=youtu.be Is it proof that politicions can evolve? I know he also wants to get re-elected so that has to be a driving factor. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?
That might help. I know I used to get emails from them mostly about what to make there logo to look like. Part of the problem at least on my end is lac of transperency and comunication. Maybe I needed to somehow know I needed to watch the forums or something. Even then discus ala FRIAM would(V) helped at least in my case. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 7:02 PM, Greg Sonnenfeld gsonn...@gmail.com wrote: If you want I could ask the regional coordinator to give you guys an e-mail so you could discuss your concerns. Greg Sonnenfeld “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 4:44 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: I'm still waiting for them to say something interesting. I'm watching some candidates. I won't commit to sending them my social security number and birth date until I have evidence that they're credible. FYI, I enjoy this website re: americans elect: http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/category/americanselect/ Steve Smith wrote at 03/14/2012 03:08 PM: What is everyone (else's) current take on the Americans Elect at this point? I just took the time to (re)sign up and go through about 100 questions and then looked at the draft candidates and at the questions being put forth for debate by the candidates somewhere down the line. Overall I was much more impressed with the situation than I was in the past. The debate questions being put forward were hampered in quality by the source... the unwashed masses are going to come up with a lot of whackadoodle things, or if not whackadoodle ideas, whackadoodle expressions of perfectly good ideas. I tried voting on about 100 of the questions (some of the most popular, but mostly the most recent. It wasn't clear I was helping... I'm hoping the questions get rendered down more (but also well) as many questions were variations on each other. I wouldn't worry about their bad questions or money requests. Just ignore those until they are fixed and vote in the primary :P Greg Sonnenfeld “The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.” On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 3:17 PM, gleng...@ropella.name wrote: Steve Smith wrote circa 12-01-09 01:51 PM: Isn't this what Americans Elect (among other things) trying to address? After the initial flurry of discussion about this group, I've seen nothing else here. I was disturbed by certain things about them but as an alternative mechanism, maybe they are worth more attention? I still get e-mails from them asking for money. I've answered 223 of their stupidly dichotomous questions and voted on 20 of them. I've seen nothing from them but solicitations for money. I won't give them any money. I have way too many established charities knocking. At this point, I'm inclined to write them off. -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org -- glen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Disenfranchised? Americans Elect?
I feer the only way to 'get things' done is to convert to a technocracyhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technocracyand possible a parimenatarian one at that-but short of that--yeah my issue with AECorp is it isn't transparent-not that the democracts/repubs are but that'd be a start if possible-i'm also a little wary of having to supply my social to be involved it's bad enough that the JC wants my social for virtualy everything. But yeah- what happend to the promise by AE to be a better process and be a direct election etc. oO ? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 11:54 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: I share your (various) doubts about the people behind the AE process, but I *do* welcome the concept of a more open and engaged and egalitarian process for supporting existing politicians who are not insiders at the big show (e.g. Kucenich, Gary Johnson) and for maybe finding/exposing/supporting people who *don't* already play in politics (or at least not nationally). I'm not particulary deluded (or misiguided?) by the AE folks into believing they have my best interests at heart... I suspect they recognized that this was an inevitable development and wanted to be in control of whatever part of it they could. That alone is a little nefarious. But to be honest, the important question is what *would* be a better process/circumstance for all of this? Who *could* foster/muster something like this. I'd be equally (differently) scared if it were GoogleZon doing it... like Vote.Google.com ? Maybe someone like EFF could do something less muddied by conventional money and politics? Certainly not FRIAM or TED or ???... It is an interesting experiment even if it is openly flawed in some (not so?) obvious ways... I'm less interested in believing this will lead to first-order useful/meaningful results for the next election than I am in understanding what this class of meddling can mean for our whole process. As for Doug's article.. I'm not very inclined to like anything I hear from big-money traders about politics, if just on principle. I think the concept that putting oneself (and career) on the line by going on the ballot and risk being voted out of the process by the process is interesting but probably both not very thought through and hyperbolic at the same time. I'm hoping that this election year brings some qualitatively new things, and ideally ones I am more impressed with than the 2000 and 2004 elections. The draw of 2000 and the *re-election* of Bush in 04 were both fairly big things in politics in my opinion (not ones I welcome, especially in retrospect, but big things nevertheless). I think our only viable option at this point is to give Obama 4 more years to unlimber the rest of his skills and experience now that he's had time to settle in, learn some ropes, lay some foundations. Maybe the public are tired of their obstructionist congresspeople and will elect some more who are interested in getting things done. Or maybe the divisiveness will continue and expose itself yet more? Meanwhile, 2016 is sure to be a hoot. I predict things will have changed as radically by then as we could wish, if not neccesarily in an appealing direction. - Steve This article sums up my feelings on the subject: http://www.cnbc.com/id/46692982 --Doug On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:58 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: I don't think it would help me. An e-mail directly to me might make me feel like one of the cool kids. But my main concern is the sense that Americans Elect is a corporation, not a democratic process. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for corporations to the right purpose and context. But AECorp seems a bit shadowy to me. If I were pressed to be concrete about my feelings, I'd have to say that it's just too difficult to investigate the clique members involved. And when I do find some new piece of data about them, it's nefarious ... like the identities of the largest funders and the evolution from Unity08. I just don't get the feeling AECorp has my best interests in mind. Not that that's a big deal. The Demopublicans don't have my best interests in mind, either. But at least they admit that they're political parties, whose sole purpose is to help politicians get (and stay) elected as long as they tow the party line. That seems more authentic than a shadowy corporation that claims it's not a party, funded mostly in secret by long-term behind-the-scenes political players. These data should be prominent on their website, not hidden in PDFs I have to hunt for. And even if they privately sent _me_ all that data and it was all above board, I would still wonder why it wasn't on the website so anyone could see it immediately. Gillian Densmore wrote at 03/15/2012 06:42 PM: That might help. I know I used to get emails from them mostly about what to make there logo to look like. Part of the problem at least on my end is lac
Re: [FRIAM] Which programming languages are fastest? | Computer Language Benchmarks Game
HTML 5 is oddly abscent. Though speed tests are kind of cool-relevence and what used in the reel world might be slightly more telling--though I think someone had put a few numbers up on the list a few months ago. On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 9:28 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Latest shootout results. http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/u32/benchmark.php?test=alllang=all V8 JS still hanging in there well ahead of all the agile gang (ruby/python/etc). C# seems to be loosing ground to hefty Java, but that could easily be optimization flags. The python numbers may be unfair: its all python code with no C libraries. I doubt many python programs are w/o the python wrappers around C code. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Errors are painful
To a point. It might also depend on the OS and or development anology. On windows anyway I seem to get sever sounding messages from my antivius program like WARNING: (insirt URL here) has caused a fetal error on fire fox from (cookie type here). Wich when I looked it up just ment that the Fire fox crashed-so maybe if aplication crashes the it might be the equivilant of making a wrong turn and needing to do a different direction. What about if someone is doing something creative? or stuff that uses a lot of processing power? I've thought that if my computer could talk about then it might say: hold on I need to think about (fill in whats going on) a bit I'll get back to you in a second. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 4:11 PM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: Nick once asked the list how a computer perceives and experiences itself. The answer is of course it does not do this. Usually. But if a computer would be able to feel, then it would probably perceive error messages as painful. Error messages are a bit like pain, because they indicate that something has gone wrong. They are not pleasant, but if they are missing (as for example in Javascript) it can be even worse, because you don't know what is wrong and why. In this sense, warnings are like little itchings, errors are like weak pain and fatal errors are like heavy pain. A computer with a fatal system error like kernel panic or blue screen of death can considered as dead. What do you think, does this analogy make sense? For a distributed system of computers, for instance a whole datacenter, the worst thing that can happen is an increasing number of fatal system errors, for example computers with kernel panic. In such a system the loss of computer power and machines would be painful. -J. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology
I might add to it underpaying and overworking. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote: I might be seeing where this could be going but the general technical term Dumb Stuff might be defiend as one or of the following: Bad manered drivers, procstratinating on tasks,not willing to properly fund education and science-just as examples. On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Well, in my psychology, the answer to such a question takes the form of, “what is the larger pattern of which my dumb stuff is a part?” N *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Gillian Densmore *Sent:* Friday, May 18, 2012 6:09 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Unsolved Problems in Psychology Oh oh I have a potentialy unsolvable problem: how come people (me included) constantly do dumb stuff? On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Bruce Sherwood bruce.sherw...@gmail.com wrote: Newton famously said about action at a distance, I frame no hypotheses. I take this to mean something like the following: I completely agree with you that I haven't explained gravity. Rather I've shown that observations are consistent with the radical notion that all matter attracts all other matter, here and in the heavens, made quantitative by a one-over-r-squared force 'law'. On this basis I have shown that the orbits of the planets and the behavior of the tides and the fall of an apple, previously seen as completely different phenomena, are 'explainable' within one single framework. I propose that we provisionally abandon the search for an 'explanation' of gravity, which looks fruitless for now, and instead concentrate on working out the consequences of the new framework. Let's leave it as a task for future scientists to try to understand at a deeper level than 'action-at-a-distance' what the real character of gravity is. There has been altogether too much speculation, such as maybe angels push the planets around. Let's get on with studying what we can. I think Newton doesn't get nearly enough credit for this radical standpoint, which made it possible to go forward. And of course we know that eventually Einstein found a deep 'explanation' for gravity in terms of the effects that matter has on space itself. There are hints in the current string theory community of even deeper insights into the nature of gravity. Bruce On Fri, May 18, 2012 at 1:38 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: John, I like your gravity question. If this were Google+, I'd click its +1 button. My wife, who studies these things, says that one of the fiercest contemporary criticisms of Newton's theories was that they depended on a mysterious (magical?) action at a distance. -- Russ Abbott FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Chrome is the most popular browser in the world, says StatCounter | The Verge
Chrome and Safari are also tops for standards compliance. On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:29 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: I wonder what percent we'd see amongst ourselves: http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/21/3033566/chrome-most-popular-browser-weekly-may-2012 As far as I can see, Firefox, IE and Chrome are about tied and the regional differences were quite interesting. For me chrome has some lovely hidden gems like syncing bookmarks and extensions across computers. And for development, its as good as it gets. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] removing drm on itunes?
Hi all i've read a few howto's to remove dreaded DRM in itunes mostly seems to CD and importit- this seems like a waste of a CD if it's only a few files at a time though. I'm interested in backing up to google play. The client didn't back up my new itunes purchases though-any ideas? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
Hi all SFCC in it's devign wisdome is teaching Adobe CS products. Suficed to say It'd be handy to have at home-for eas of completing classes-and might be handy later. However I am wincing at the 600 Adobe is asking for there latest software sweet (CS6) Any ideas where to get it a bit less? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] where to get adobe cheep?
at SFCC there's a cource called 'digital basics' that I'm taking this fall that at least from what I've been told by the prof that teaches the class covers the basics of quite a bit of the adobe ecology (nonspecific to which bits of tools).At some point I had some interest in learning about the cloud-what makes it tick and the like-for the media arts program the require you to learn at least photosho illustrator and endesign. On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: GaDOING! This interesting little nugget right towards the end got my undivided attention. Pick a convenient time we're there! On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:47 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: PPS and as a reward for Doug (and anyone else) for reading the whole diatribe (or cutting to the chase)... I have a fifth of Stranahans (Colorado Distillery) and a coolish (after dark) courtyard to sip it in. It's time again! -- Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-670-8195 - Cell FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] painful cell monthly
Hi all i'm staring at what I think is a painful cell monthly (80 pre tax and first born)- I looked at the T-Mobile sebsite as that's my current carrier and the cheepest plan still hovers around 70. What tricks (and or other carriers) would be cheeper? Part of the problem was the last time I was in the t-mobile store they insisted that modern phones (I guess ios and android) you clearly had to have 2gigs of data- I hardly use data though. What do folks sugest? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] painful cell monthly
primarily what I use my cell for is calling and keeping track of meetings and such (androids calender is useful). I only ocasionaly use the navigation feature of android to get my bearings if i'm going someplace new-otherwise I don't use data at all. On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Greg Sonnenfeld gsonn...@gmail.com wrote: What features do you need? Greg Sonnenfeld “Two h's walk into a bar. The first one says, What is this? Some kind of physics joke?” On Thu, Aug 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all i'm staring at what I think is a painful cell monthly (80 pre tax and first born)- I looked at the T-Mobile sebsite as that's my current carrier and the cheepest plan still hovers around 70. What tricks (and or other carriers) would be cheeper? Part of the problem was the last time I was in the t-mobile store they insisted that modern phones (I guess ios and android) you clearly had to have 2gigs of data- I hardly use data though. What do folks sugest? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Google to cut 4, 000 Motorola Mobility jobs, take $275 million charge | Reuters
hmm what would be a 'must have?' for iOS? in so far as proffit margin goes google had to pay through the noes in a recent privacy battle. MS has been eeting at Android proffits by taking compitors to courthttp://www.zdnet.com/blog/open-source/microsoft-vs-android/8529and forbes take on ithttp://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2011/12/21/microsoft-v-motorola-android-case-and-why-courts-need-reforming/ Googles Android isn't having thto compete with just apple(and iOS) then it's also having to beet MS and there considerable legal and financial rescources (and dodgy business practices) I agree that google could gain some benifit having alies here. Samsung is just a good a choice as any, nokia could also be plausible-It's my understanding that as of Icecream sandwitch forward google has some quality assurancences carriers and manufacturers are to meet-- Only wifi-thinking a bit to small-- maybe someone can find it- I thought there was some work being done by HP to have the internet everywhere. On Mon, Aug 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Google is slashing 20% of Moto Mobility: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/13/us-motorolamobility-jobs-idUSBRE87C07F20120813 .. which brings up the question: Will Google join Apple as a handset manufacturer? The revenue and profit story of iOS and Android are all over the map, with Android clearly ahead in number of units, but with Google lagging in profits. The idea with Moto, I think, was to put Google in the same place as Apple: controlling a larger part of The Mobility Triangle: handset mfgr, OS provider, mobile carrier. Indeed, this triangle has made certain aspects of Android difficult, in particular stabilizing the OS and providing timely OS/firmware updates. When I bought my last phone, I decided to stick with iPhone, partially due to inertia, and partly due to must have apps that are still not on Android. But also partly because of the triangle: who's going to update the phone? .. who's in charge here?! My Verizon iPhone purchase was a bit weird. They kept saying that feature X or network Y was under Apple's control and Apple'd manage it. For example, I can't exchange my phone directly with Vzn. Instead I send it to Apple for a swap. And Apple was in complete control of Vzn's inventory. This is not to say one is better/worse as much as to marvel at the difference Apple has forced on the carriers. Apple is clearly 66 2/3% of the triangle .. closer to 90%. So Google and MM seemed an attempt to have their model be similar, right? But hold it! They had a success disaster with Samsung. Samsung has such a winner on their hands that they caught everyone by surprise, even Google. I think Google should at least explore a much closer relationship with Samsung, in particular in standardizing the OS updates and HW APIs, something they wanted with Moto. In the mean time, Apple appears to be happy making more money while having a smaller percent of the OS and handset market. And the carriers are becoming less and less important in the equation entirely. So I think Apple should buy TMobile and have 100%, and Google has to decide how big a percent the'd like, and how to achieve it. Moto doesn't seem to have done the trick. And both A and G would like to simply marginalize the carriers completely .. maybe by wifi-default phones and in-house bluetooth to home phones. I think G has the edge here. Who'da thought!? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] RIP neil Armstrong
Neil Armstrong: all around bad arse joined the force : goog_1990109661RIP neil armstronghttp://abcnews.go.com/Technology/neil-armstrong-man-moon-dead/story?id=12325140#.UDkouGjyZHn . Kick arse guy from what I've read- May the force be with his family- FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] will we walk on mars?
Anyone care to predict if man will go back to the moon? and also who'd care to predict weather or not man will walk on mars? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: iClarified - Apple News - Samsung Found Guilty of Copying Apple, Ordered to Pay Over $1 Billion in Damages
Not a lawyer nor an economist-would love to here a explination for how this even came to court. Seriusly round cornered icons are patentable? (If I had the money right now i'd consider getting one of the phones apples complaining about) This does strike me as a bad move apple in terms of the parts and the US phone ecology. They were at one point using samsungs american plants to manufacture the i(name here) stuff. I hope they have someone else ready once the current stock runs out. Unless MS pulls out of the portable market- sooner or later woudn't MS decide attempt to compete (more?) with the iphone? What wories and amuses me is that it looks like the only way for MS and Apple to compete with inovations from google and others is to team up- and when they stop inovating sue them-instead of competing on a even playing field. Other peoples thoughts on this? On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:34 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: This is so weird: http://www.iclarified.com/entry/index.php?enid=24064 .. I think the whole patent thing has gone way to far. But, hey, maybe they DID steal? -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] For those wondering about the Samsung-Apple verdict...
thanks for that-you seem to be fairly media aware. That part of this story might end up being a problem for apple On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: ...consider this: I'm sitting in a Starbucks doing random whatever over an iced americano. While I waiting for my drink, I watched a guy with his friend, pick up a newspaper; and start to remark on the Samsung Apple verdict. https://plus.google.com/114476892281222708332/posts/246srfbqg6G -tj -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] apple/samsung--best possible marketing.
Google news anounces:ban hammer for samsunghttp://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5iozfnMAFD54hYBZFsOBb8N5OT6Yg?docId=3e8b3d4467fb4f5ab20c044732487c72ironicly at least at the JC a certain kind of nerd now wants one of the samsungs-- Anyone else think apples tactics will backfire? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] apples genius bar secrets
Oops-someone leeked apples genius bar manual link herehttp://gizmodo.com/5938323/how-to-be-a-genius-this-is-apples-secret-employee-training-manual disturbing-though not suprising. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] The Two Party System
As the guy that just voted indipendendant I'm sick and tired of rebublicans v democrats- Sereosly? Issues seem indipendant of weather someone red, blue orange green purple indigo- It's one countery. From what I gather of german polotics (for example) when there's a issue it's just adressed without to much debate as to what party (or the equivilant there of) could be blamed. Would it be hard to impliment that type of system here? I doubt i'm unique in sofar as polotics is concerned I can see almost nothing but benifit from going to a parilimentarian type of system (as a start)- just get the issues adressed is my feeling. On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 9:36 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: The 1 2 party systems are the only ones avoiding the pitfalls of Arrow's Impossibility Theorem. http://www.udel.edu/johnmack/frec444/444voting.html But what about 2.5 parties? By this I mean guys running but with no possibility of winning .. the so called third party candidates in the US? They are often seen as spoilers, by taking away votes from the two possible candidates in a 2 party system. But to the point, No I don't think China's system is the future. The world appears to like multiparty systems, increasingly with fair voting tossed in with some sort of recursive run-off schemes. So I wonder what's it like in a true multi-party system like most of Europe has? Is it effective? interesting? confusing? fun? Are the populations aware of Arrow? Does it avoid grid-lock? -- Owen On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 1:54 AM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: I watched the party congress in China today and thought what a difference to the US election. In the US there was a year long multi billion dollar campaign for each party, in China none at all. In the US we have a simple two party system, in China a single party system. What do you think? Is China's model the future? -J. Sent from Android FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
[FRIAM] DVD riping/backup program for winders?
Hi all I'm wondering if someone might have know a good DVDripping to back program for windows such that I could back up some DVDs AVIs slightly prefered thanks! -Gillian Densmore. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] Why Climate Deniers Have No Scientific Credibility - In One Pie Chart
What's the state of passive energy generation and making it go without wires(as example of better distrobuting energy)- Has the city considered adopting self driving cars (if the technology is here) Just as an aside- a small piece of the puzzle for santa fe reducing carbon imitions with a mas transit system that wasn't a mess (try getting to the comunity colledge from where I live for example) Even at the comunity colledge some portion of the students are in denial about global weather changes. On Mon, Dec 3, 2012 at 10:20 AM, Paul Paryski ppary...@aol.com wrote: Although there are many, many proven technologies for reducing a perhaps absorbing GHG, very few have been put in place. A quick glance at wikipedia, IPCC and 350.org lists thousands. But in reality it is too late to stop a global temperature change of 2-4C and its very scary impacts; we are way past the worst case scenarios predicted by the IPCC. Rational governments should immediately work on adaptation strategies, e/g/ NYC. Not a pretty future for humanity. cheers? Paul -Original Message- From: Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Cc: Mike Collins a...@alumni.princeton.edu Sent: Mon, Dec 3, 2012 9:40 am Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Why Climate Deniers Have No Scientific Credibility - In One Pie Chart Fascinating. Unfortunately, we don't have a similar, sound, list of preventative methods. I'm told, for example, nuclear electricity generation is on the + side, vastly less contaminating, weather wise, than most current sources. The spent fuel problem is being solved by interesting reuse in the construction of the reactor chamber. Yet we reject it to the degree that we are falling behind in nuclear engineering. Similar, very local distributed electric generation is also being rejected. Solar in Santa Fe is not allowed in historic areas. Neighborhood energy generation techniques are not being pursued. I live in a city that can't even handle a problem as trivial as reasonable broadband per household. Do I think we have a chance of reducing pollution when we can't even solve broadband? No. So a list of preventatives could be a help. Especially with the same ratio of acceptance as this report! -- Owen On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 5:09 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: FYI http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/11/15/why-climate-deniers-have-no-credibility-science-one-pie-chart -tj FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
Re: [FRIAM] TidBITS: Gigabit Internet Just out of Reach in Seattle
*drool* On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com wrote: Seattle is starting to roll out gigabit connectivity in the city. http://tidbits.com/article/13458 Sent from my iQuantum FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Dropbox big-time
I love google drive for somestuff- It's great if you can use it from the same computer or have one that does java quickly when uploading at school though for some reason it was dog slow-same for downloading-and that stuff was-illustrator files- or pictures--with those short comings acounted for google drive is slick--and more than once was how I turned in homework-by pointing the prof to a URL linked in some fation to the file. On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 9:21 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Google+ has free unlimited storage of images but only at 2048 px. You can pay for 5GB of images at greater resolution. Android g+ has an automatic picture upload feature. --Doug While looking into dropbox alternatives, I looked into Google Drive .. but hadn't heard about G+ for images. Some of the commentary on Google services was that they somehow use the data you keep with them .. possibly for face recognition searching and so on. Couple of questions: - How well is Google Drive working for folks? It apparently is great for android but some said still in beta so to speak. It seems to have integrated with Google Docs .. so that might make it great for all documentation backup. - Is G+ photo storage public? Separate from GD? Photo sharing may be the mention of Google use of user data. Does it do the conversion to 2Mpx during the upload? I suspect most of my iPhone images are too big due to the 8Mpx camera. I did read an article on moving iPhoto libraries to either DB or GD. Both were identical so apparently GD has the same functionality as DB. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Semi-final note on the Google Nexus 4
Nice post! I'd lean twards arrogance from google. I'm not unduly buged by them probably using information I have on there system to atempt to market to me. I'll be voting with my wallet for my next phone though as if I get a smartphone when I'm elidgable for a upgrade i'm leaning to a iphone the droid I had was wonderful in many reguards but built on substandard hardware that started to show quirks (before it was pilfered that is). Good luck though. On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/01/semi-final-note-on-nexus-4.html -- *Doug Roberts drobe...@rti.org d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
While investigating cloud back up I ran across a outfit called cloudswave ( cloudswave http://www.cloudswave.com)-who pointed me to there service called box+ I've only done a bit of poking and proding it looks like the use quite a bit of the google ecology where it gets interesting though is they offer either a terabyte of storage for just under 20 a month. Compared to googles 45 for the same amount of space I have no idea how they can afford that. They also claim they have some sort of app that can work with a desktop app for colaberation- One pro for google is brand name recognition I was in a meeting today and the lady I asked the lady I was talking to if she'd accept a link pointing to google drive she delitedly said oh sure. I'm not sure i'd get the same instant: aha that's a known work safe place reaction from google competitors. (even if they are cheeper) On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 3:32 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: I've run into the same problem as Dean (and used the recovery method Robert talks about, which, I assume, puts the files back in everyone's folder(s).) So does anyone know of a service whereby I can delete the file from my HD's folder, but not interfere with others? Is FTP the only answer to date? -tom On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Dean Gerber pd_ger...@yahoo.com wrote: We have used Dropbox somewhat successfully at SFAFS to coordinate assignments and other data in our Science Fair Judging project. It is vital to understand that shared folders can be fully edited (including deleting!) by one and all in the sharing group, so that without good discipline and understanding things can run amok. For example, if one group member deletes a file from a shared folder, that file is deleted from every folder in the group. It is gone. This works independently of OS file permissions. Dropbox is not really suitable for collaborative development because of this. [image: *~X( at wits' end] --Dean -- *From:* Barry MacKichan barry.mackic...@mackichan.com *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com *Sent:* Wednesday, February 20, 2013 11:05 AM *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted DropBox syncs files between as many computers as you like, using the cloud. DropBox folders can be shared with as many people as you invite. It does not provide its own editing capabilities. If you want to share an Illustrator file with someone, drag it into the shared DropBox subfolder. It will automatically appear in the corresponding subfolder on the other person's computer. She can then edit it with Illustrator. Another option is Evernote. The free version is restricted in the files it will allow as attachments to notes, but I understand that the paid version allows any file as an attachment to a note. The sharing is similar to that of DropBox; it is by invitation. --Barry On Feb 20, 2013, at 3:41 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote: Hi all In light of some issues I have been running into with google drive I wondered what else is out there for cloud back ups that also permits Collaboration by this I meen that I want to be able to send someone a URL where documents in popular formats are where they can read them and also be able to edit them. I have seen some chatter about this on the list recently but I don't know what places are good vs junk. I do have dropbox wich is awsome for somestuff I don't know if it has baked in ways to allow editing of documents I tested it with a illustrator file- it thought it was a picture but didn't understand the format. What are peoples experiences in this area? what places are good? -Gillian Densmore FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [FRIAM] cloud backup recomendations wanted
kicking the tires of skydrive like what I see so far. it could be useful as part of my work flow- I don't know what kind of limitations are on a free account. I'd need to dig around to see if they have web and or cloud development and collaboration tools- by that I meen I don't know if they have ways to test PHP and or javascript code (for example) before it's live. Thanks for the link. On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 8:31 AM, siddharth sidh...@gmail.com wrote: Or even Skydrive? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SkyDrive On Thu, Feb 21, 2013 at 5:40 AM, glen e. p. ropella g...@tempusdictum.com wrote: If you haven't already considered it, SparkleShare might be interesting to you: http://sparkleshare.org/ Gillian Densmore wrote at 02/20/2013 03:54 PM: While investigating cloud back up I ran across a outfit called cloudswave (cloudswave http://www.cloudswave.com)-who pointed me to there service called box+ I've only done a bit of poking and proding it looks like the use quite a bit of the google ecology where it gets interesting though is they offer either a terabyte of storage for just under 20 a month. Compared to googles 45 for the same amount of space I have no idea how they can afford that. They also claim they have some sort of app that can work with a desktop app for colaberation- One pro for google is brand name recognition I was in a meeting today and the lady I asked the lady I was talking to if she'd accept a link pointing to google drive she delitedly said oh sure. I'm not sure i'd get the same instant: aha that's a known work safe place reaction from google competitors. (even if they are cheeper) -- glen e. p. ropella, 971-255-2847, http://tempusdictum.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Wow. 6 whole days without a Nexus 4 post.
gasp didn't root it to make a beowolf cluster? On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:52 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Yep, that's my one remaining complaint, Roger. And my list of phones that can run wifi and bluetooth simultaneously is the following: 1) My previous phone, HTC Thunderbolt, running Android Gingerbread 2.3 Of course, that's the only other Android phone I've owned, so it's a short list. --Doug On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Roger Critchlow r...@elf.org wrote: Doug -- So your complaint at this point, now that you've rooted and installed a custom ROM, is that the phone can't do WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time? WiFi and Bluetooth both use the same frequencies (2.1 GHz unregulated band) and I've seen specs where they're implemented in the same radio, which would mean that you could have one or the other, but not both at the same time. It wouldn't surprise me if that were the standard implementation of cell phone WiFi and Bluetooth, especially since I've never seen a spec that specified two separate radios for WiFi and Bluetooth. My HTC Nexus One, the one that eventually went through the wash, was able to stream audio over bluetooth when you plugged it into its cradle. That worked fine if it was playing mp3's off the SDcard. But if you tried to stream Pandora from WiFi then you could hear the frequency at which the radio was multiplexing between WiFi and Bluetooth. It was a magnificent attempt to make two digital systems stretch to create an analog illusion, but it didn't make it. There's two phones, Nexus 4 and Nexus One, where we've actually tried to run WiFi and Bluetooth at the same time and had problems. So, where's the list of phones that you've tested where WiFi and Bluetooth operated simultaneously with no problems? -- rec -- On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: And Steve is easy to pick out of the crowd: Page Views: 1 Entry Page Time: 23 Feb 2013 11:05:47 Browser: Firefox 18.0 OS: MacOSX Resolution: 1280x800 Total Visits: 15 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, United States IP Address: Tewa Broadband Chimayo Red, Llc (65.19.38.201) [Label IP Address] Referring URL: (No referring link) Visit Page: things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: Sounds like I. On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: BTW Owen, I believe I've got you identified: Page Views: 1 Entry Page Time: 23 Feb 2013 11:03:59 Browser: Chrome 25.0 OS: MacOSX Resolution: 1440x900 Total Visits: 11 Location: Santa Fe, New Mexico, United States IP Address: Cyber Mesa Computer Systems, Incorporated (65.19.28.73) [Label IP Address] Referring URL: (No referring link) Visit Page: things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: I noticed that as well. The Nexus (and Google) appear to be the black sheep of the cell phone flock. --Doug On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: After looking at the FixYa report I posted earlier http://blog.fixya.com/pr/feb2013/smartphone-manufacturer-report.html .. it made me wonder what the relationship between the Samsung Nexus and LG Nexus is? The report felt it important to distinguish between the Galaxy line and the Nexus line. -- Owen On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net wrote: There, fixed that. http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/02/96-days-and-counting.html -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe
Re: [FRIAM] Wow. 6 whole days without a Nexus 4 post.
Anyone else remember when google was this small internet search engine that hardly anyone had heard of because they were off using yahoo? (or possible lycos?) On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 3:33 PM, Gary Schiltz g...@naturesvisualarts.comwrote: Chrome is nice, unless you need to run Java 7 applets or web start apps on a Mac. Chrome for Mac is 32-bit only, and Java 7 for Mac is 64-bit only. On Feb 26, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Where I think google does have identity is in the browser. Chrome is abs fab, must have, and way ahead of the pack. V8 redefined javascript. So they do own their destiny there, although unfortunately for them, chrome is not pre-installed on mac and windows. No problem for us but quite an issue for others. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Wow. 6 whole days without a Nexus 4 post.
now to develop two algorithms: One for dougs raves about scantily clad women in las vegas and another for his rants about google. Maybe we can use this data in something useful. On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Cool it guys. I'm in Vegas. Sex on every corner. Sex at every table. Sex in the lobby. Sex, sex, sex. On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Just to get it in before Doug can... I don't think it would have included a happy ending. And would things have gone the way they did if they kept the 'BackRub' name? -Arlo James Barnes FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Mozilla to release Firefox phones - San Jose Mercury News
Firefox OS, from alcatel onetouch fire gotsome postive reviews on a model the reviewer could use the OS and phone were noted as feeling solid.-The only real reason to leen twards Apple is the iphone has generaly faverable reviews and apple has experience with tech support for hardware and OS. On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Speaking about phones: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_22671751/mozilla-release-firefox-phones I think, since Brendan Eich's becoming CTO, things are getting interesting at mozilla. Asm.js for example, but even more this phone stunt. So if you had to buy a phone from one of the following, which would you choose? - Amazon - Apple - Google - Mozilla - Facebook/Twitter (I'm serious) Note I'm breaking the unholy trinity: no carrier specified, only OS Handset provider. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Here's another one of those ponderous cut and paste html links
I think I've seen something about that mod in the past-there's some others out there as well-any opinions what's hot what's not? On Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: For the two of you out there still using plain text mail clients, that is. For the more modern FRIAM entity, it's just a click: http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/03/cyanogenmod.html --Doug -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?
YES I've gotten calls like that in the past from some people from china someplace trying to claim they work for MS. I don't know who to report them to. It's not just fishing it's social engineering (aka fraud and lying)- in my case the guy was all panicky that I might have malware and if I let him run my computer he'll fix it. I didn't let the guy get on with his sales pitch before hanging up on him. I run a regular virus sweep and malware sweep. I think he gave up after the third time I hung up on him. Why would I trust some complete stranger calling up going on and on about how many evil things might be on my computer-why would I trust someone who wasn't recomended to me by a someone who I trust to controll my computer-answer: I don't. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? ** ** I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. ** ** Does anybody recognize this? ** ** N ** ** Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org ** ** ** ** FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?
lol if you do record the conversation for our amusement (as well as good blog material). On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: I've gotten a few of those over the past few days from similarly accented people trying to tell me that my Windows machine was infected with a virus, but the callers' numbers were blocked. No, I didn't bother to Linuxize them, although that would have been fun. --Doug On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? ** ** I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. ** ** Does anybody recognize this? ** ** N ** ** Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org ** ** ** ** FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] A new kind of pfishing?
Yes same here- I didn't give him the chance to get annywhere when could bairly say Microsoft I just hung up. That virln(Roach) is probably scurring around I doubt that the kind of person that goes to or is on the FRIAM list is his mark. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Edward Angel an...@cs.unm.edu wrote: I got the call a couple of months ago. He tried to give the impression that he was working for Microsoft and they were doing the monitoring. He got very flustered when I pointed out that I had only Apple hardware and didn't run Windows. That didn't stop him from continuing his pitch. I finally had to shut him up by telling him what crook he was and hanging up. Actually I probably didn't shut him up but only moved him to the next one on his robodialer. Ed __ Ed Angel Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science Laboratory (ARTS Lab) Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico 1017 Sierra Pinon Santa Fe, NM 87501 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Nicholas Thompson wrote: Can anybody confirm this as a new form of pfishing? ** ** I got a call from a number in DC today, somebody with a strong Indian sub-continent accident, telling me that my computer was sending error messages to the network and offering to help me correct them. (I have the number in my phone trap, and would report it if I knew where to report it to.) The next step involved my going on my computer and connect it to them, I assume. These guys were pretty bad at what they were doing,, but I can imagine a more subtle line that I might have fallen for. ** ** Does anybody recognize this? ** ** N ** ** Nicholas S. Thompson Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology Clark University http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ http://www.cusf.org ** ** ** ** FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time
For some of us with a already wonky metabalism we don't need help with it being more wonky by some extremely dead person for gigles I hit wikiepedia with DST and the list is at this link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dst For those using plain text: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dst work safe. Clicking on the daylight savings time it says: The modern idea of daylight saving was first proposed in 1895 by George Vernon Hudson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Vernon_Hudson [9]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#cite_note-DNZB-Hudson-9and it was first implemented during the First World War http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_I. Well thank you Hudson for messing around with my metablism. Humans are seeking peace and some of us are interested in persuing science. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: I too like DST -- mainly because it stays light later in the evening and dark later in the morning. Strange, this is what it was supposed to accomplish. It actually works. Why change it? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:04 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: I like daylight savings too, because I like listening to people bitch about it. --Doug On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: I like daylight savings. Gives another point of semi-regularity to my year. -tj On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.netwrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joshua Thorp jth...@redfish.comwrote: But is the time change even needed? What purpose does it really serve? There are lots of stories about it rooted in wartime/economy etc. But these things do not seem to be valid anymore. And are they worth the collective cost? I have to say I prefer light later in the day though. Agreed. I do like the petition's approach: simply no time shifting during the year. Whether it stays DST all year long (my preference) or standard time is to be decided. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time
Yes he can actually he can abolish the time shift- and it looks like most of the rest of the world gets along just fine w/o one. On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: So Owen. You want your school aged grandchildren children standing out by the mail box in the pitch dark of the night (January, 6am, DST) in rush hour traffic? ** ** Why does it not work for you just to get up when you feel like and let us lemmings shift back to standard time when we feel like it? ** ** And why would one petition the white house? As if it’s Obama who changes the clocks? As Pogo famously said, “We have seen the enemy and they is we.” ** ** Sorry to be so cranky. I am feeling very Douggish today. Must be the time change. ** ** Nick ** ** Nick ** ** *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen Densmore *Sent:* Friday, March 15, 2013 1:39 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] [EXTERNAL] Please sign this thing! Eliminate the bi-annual time change caused by Daylight Savings Time ** ** On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Joshua Thorp jth...@redfish.com wrote: But is the time change even needed? What purpose does it really serve? There are lots of stories about it rooted in wartime/economy etc. But these things do not seem to be valid anymore. And are they worth the collective cost? I have to say I prefer light later in the day though. ** ** Agreed. I do like the petition's approach: simply no time shifting during the year. Whether it stays DST all year long (my preference) or standard time is to be decided. ** ** -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] You just went to the Google homepage. What actually happened?
where's the part of you beem into the google page: it instantly forms metrics about you and presents you with useful adds (as aposed to to minuses) :P On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.comwrote: I disagree with Jean-Baptiste Query's presentation, which implies that you have to understand all levels of any process to understand the process itself. If that were true we would all have to understand quantum mechanics to understand everything. But no one understands quantum mechanics. So no one understands anything. snip Well, the point is that for non tech folks, it is a tower of babble. I like the presentation because it starts with a simple idea: view a web page, and shows the dirty little secret. I believe it should be the intro to a book that does what I think you might prefer: top down, breadth first introduction to digitology. Or in other words: modularity, and its implementation in standard formats and protocols. And no, modularity .. tho nice in program structure .. does not happen without the standard formats and protocols. I have found it hard to explain modularity to non geek folks. Can you do it? Most start with code, which as I say, is wrong. But most folks understand contracts, and that leads into protocols formats. I tried to explain DNS once to a very very smart guy. Registrars, Name Servers, TLD hierarchy. His questions kept leading deeper into details, and made it all impossible. My poor friend actually got dizzy and ended up in tears. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] ET Phone Home?
Shouldn't be there for formating reasons CSS javascript and PHP should handle placement of elements on a page just fine without the need of a 1px big item. On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:22 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Yesterday, I noticed in the middle of the You just went to the Google homepage conversation, my GMail accept this image banner was on, but I could see no image! WTF? So I look at the raw source, and indeed, this appears: https://app.yesware.com/t/ac60524099a2c2922efb3fea7fcd30ecf03a1=482/5bb54418d45ddd9646340c46dfba6e56/spacer.gif .. which when downloaded was a single pixel, invisible due to alpha=0 and possibly being white. This seems to be a way of knowing when the mail was opened, the yesware.com site can collect statistics on the image being displayed. Is anyone doing this on purpose? Or have you caught a malware in your mail client that is looking at your usage? Or is it simply part of an obscure formatting stunt? BTW: This then appeared in all the rest of the conversation which included the initial email. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Just sent this to the Google Device Support Team
Well you see it depends on the kind of bug. During summer chirpy bugs are pleasant think the chirping bugs do so on purpose. :P On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Now you all know, that, ever since Owen first used the word “top bit” in my presence, nearly a decade ago, I have followed, with rapt attention, the use of language on this list. So, you guys. I need to understand this better. Can a “bug” be “on purpose”? It sounds to me like Google has sabotaged its own product, right. Therefore, if I understand the language, any Nexus phone thatactually worked, would be “buggy”., by definition. I am sorry to bother you about this, but these are the kinds of things that keep me awake at night. N ** ** *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts *Sent:* Sunday, March 24, 2013 1:44 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* [FRIAM] Just sent this to the Google Device Support Team ** ** *Hi, Google Device Support Team.* ** ** *It's been a while since we spoke, but I recently discovered that someone in your organization has been (I hope inadvertently) disseminating inaccurate information about this Nexus 4https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!msg/mobile/l4uYRMVHnHY/rHpsXdwNGPcJ bug, and I thought you'd want to know about it right away. * ** ** *Here's the deal: you see, we all know that the Nexus 4 was not designed on purpose to prevent wifi and bluetooth from being used at the same time. We all know that it is a bug. Well, all of us except for Steve, apparently. Here, read for yourselves: * ** ** *http://things-linux.blogspot.com/2013/03/translated.html* ** ** *Now, we all have the utmost confidence that someone in your organization will immediately take Steve aside for a private little counselling session about the inappropriateness of, shall we say, *bending the truth* regarding this particular flaw in the Nexus 4 product.* ** ** *Thanks for your prompt attention to this matter.* ** ** *Best,* ** ** *--Doug* ** ** -- *Doug Roberts d...@parrot-farm.net* *http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins*http://parrot-farm.net/Second-Cousins * 505-455-7333 - Office 505-672-8213 - Mobile* FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: iClarified - Apple News - Amazon is Planning a 4.7-Inch Smartphone for Release Next Quarter?
needs to be a bit thicker and a bit larger screen with a reel keyboard. Otherwise could be interesting One important question: Does it blend? On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: Ha! I told you so! http://www.iclarified.com/28633/amazon-is-planning-a-47inch-smartphone-for-release-next-quarter This just makes sense. Although we currently see the phone world as iOS vs Android, it just isn't the case. BlackBerry (Z10) is making a come back, keeping its position as a communications giant .. business folks who don't need the frills but are delighted to pay for great email and messaging. Apps? They've a translator from Android, so no worries. Moz phone. OK, sure it could fail but there's a lot of energy behind it. So now, Amazon. Well, they have a lot of experience with Android, and have modded it to work fine for their Tablet while keeping their brand of books and media. So like RIM, they likely can have their own place in the cell phone sun. Now anyone wanna bet about Twitter Facebook? I bet the odds just got a lot better! -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] what's google smoking with the new gmail?
I don't get it- I'm hoping someone out there possibly on the FRIAM mailing list does: I log into gmail to check my mail and get swamped with flash slides from google telling me all about how the new improved system is supposed to be better. Yet so far seems like a step backward- Can someone explain to me how on earth going from having a well laid out look and feel with stuff about where you might expect it to be if you were to use outlook/mail.app/kmail or what ever KDE uses now it's a bunch of sliding stuff without much rhyme or reason FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] perplexed by netflix
Recently I thought I'd re-try out the DVD rental system of netflix: Last time I had it all the DVDs I got would play just fine. This time around of the 8 DVDs I've gotten so far only one played without any issues. It took a bit of digging to get a email adress they have several a dvddstribute and info that looked promising. Did something change in the last year since I last had DVD rentals as part of my netflix plan? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Moz 15th birthday
I'll see you one Moz and rais it a Motiff running a on sparkstation over a ISDN line at I think 12-14 and listening by way of real audio (or some other format) a McNealy Report in which he proclaimed that the Web is the platform. A few weeks later being awed by a port of netscape on a FreeBSD system on a laptop- and reading *rumours *of a development branch going opensource for nightly builds- no idea what license they were considering. This was before opensource was cool On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Mozilla the .ORG might be 15 but the Mozilla the Killer App is more like 20! I remember at the 2nd international WWW conference in Chicago, Netscape announcing themselves and using Mozilla, the Killer App as their non-sequitorial mascot. Since when is a dinosaur an ape? They jumbled King Kong and Godzilla and the idea of a Killer App and got Mozilla! For your anecdotal interest, I saw my first off-broadway show during that conference... the Rock Opera Tommy. It *really* stood out in high contrast after spending our days huddled around 1k resolution screens ooing and aahhhing over postage-stamp sized pixelated videos streaming on a web page. We were *so* impressed with ourselves... but Tommy! blew me away! Moz is 15! Just contributed: Hi! I just donated to Mozilla and got a limited-edition, 15th Anniversary plush red dino -- available only to supporters. Join me in wishing Mozilla a happy birthday and get yours before they’re gone at http://bit.ly/ZoNIjM A snuggly dino! -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending
All this contrasery over the sigh. I think sigh and sighing is a good thing it can lead to interesting conversations. :P On 4/4/13, Ron Newman ron.new...@gmail.com wrote: I get your point, Doug. I had to suppress the desire to roll my eyes when once I met someone who looked up at the sky and spoke confidently of chemtrails. I'm reminded of something Joseph Campbell said - who looked as deeply into the beliefs of human beings across history as anyone. He said that the closer you get to something of distilled wisdom, the more crazies there are standing around. I try to keep that in mind when I'm tempted to throw something out while teasing the signal from the noise. I once knew an anesthesiologist who patented a device and started a company around it. The thing located nerves accurately for surgeons. As an anecdotal aside, he told me that the places where nerves crossed each other tended to correlate with acupuncture points. One possibility. Regarding placebo, if we were talking about solar power, 30% efficiency would be a great starting point. Ron -- Ron Newman, Founder MyIdeatree.com http://www.ideatree.us/ On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Well shoot, as long as we're talking about irrational belief sets, how about if we throw chemtrails into the mix. There is a not insignificant segment of the US population who fervently believe that they are poisoning us, on purpose. But only on those days that the jets leave con ... er ... chemtrails. No proof necessary, just *look* at those chemtrails. --Doug FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending
I think the church of satan grotos do that. Maybe we can start a sith and or jedi temple. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: I personally find it disappointing that so many people are willing to adopt a belief set with no evidence, based solely on what someone said was The Truth. On a related note, now would appear to be an excellent time to start a church, impose mandatory weekly attendance upon the faithful, and charge $20 a head at the door each week. --Doug On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:53 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes but ….. ** ** I didn’t believe Watergate the first few times I heard about it, either. “You aren’t telling me that a president that was going to win an election in a walk actually sent Burglars into the Democratic Headquarters?” I just could not believe that they could be so stupid. I fell for Colin Powell’s thing at the UN; my wife didn’t buy it for a moment. I have to say, that in most contexts, I believe in gullibility. I think a little bit of gullibility is the best program for getting on in life. But I have been known to carry it too far. ** ** Nick ** ** *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts *Sent:* Thursday, April 04, 2013 3:39 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending ** ** There are a surprising number of them on facebook, Nick. To nobody's great surprise, I guess. ** ** --Doug On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Nicholas Thompson nickthomp...@earthlink.net wrote: Doug, Somebody laid the chemtrails thing on me the other day … an otherwise perfectly sensible neighbor … and I was left standing in the street with my jaw hanging open. What do you say when somebody your sort of like, touches you on the upper arm, points skyward and says, “Call me nuts, but ….” I guess, “You’re nuts!” N *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts *Sent:* Thursday, April 04, 2013 12:14 PM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending Well shoot, as long as we're talking about irrational belief sets, how about if we throw chemtrails into the mix. There is a not insignificant segment of the US population who fervently believe that they are poisoning us, on purpose. But only on those days that the jets leave con ... er ... chemtrails. No proof necessary, just *look* at those chemtrails. --Doug On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM, Ron Newman ron.new...@gmail.com wrote: But you're missing the point.: *something* is working for them if they believe it is, and is not for you or anyone who doesn't believe it is. The question is how does it work? No, that's not good enough, because it too easily leads back to premature assumptions. The question is: how can placebo be improved. Not set aside but improved. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: Barry MacKichan wrote at 04/04/2013 10:29 AM: I've heard it is very effective, but only for a time until the patient discovers it is a placebo. Call it the Lincoln effect (You can fool all of ….). A friend of mine announced that she's now getting acupuncture for her chronic back and neck pain. There's a zealot in our local CfI (http://www.centerforinquiry.net/) group who continuously and loudly shouts about acupuncture being as quackish as homeopathy. (Seriously... is there anything as quackish as homeopathy?) The tiny amount of time I've spent looking into acupuncture indicates that it's mostly nonsense with some slight possibility of truth in regard to certain _pressure_ points and nerve clusters. But nothing that an evidence-based masseuse couldn't achieve more effectively. But I kept my mouth shut and let her talk about how well it's worked so far. My dad also used acupuncture for a racquetball associated injury. He claimed it worked very well... [ahem] ... even better than his chiropractor. I didn't want to introduce any doubt that might interfere with her placebo effect. Interestingly, I was trying to apply the Golden Rule in a post-hoc analysis of my lack of action. Would I want someone to burst my placebo effect bubble? If so, when? Immediately? Or perhaps after some window of time as the placebo effect decays and it bumps up against the hard biophysical/physiological limits? -- == glen e. p. ropella I can't get no peace until I get into motion FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending
Doug if I may observe that you and Howl(sp) seem to have a great noes for asshoelery though in your case from what I can tell your ire for at least google and people not linux friendly goes up almost instantly. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Just one small teensy note of clarification: I usually only insult people who disagree with me when they are/have been complete assholes about it. Which fortunately narrows the field down a bit. -Doug On Apr 4, 2013 6:11 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: Douglas Roberts wrote at 04/04/2013 04:45 PM: I was using evidence in the scientific sense, You say that as if everyone agrees on the scientific sense of the term, which of course they don't. Even reputable scientists disagree on what constitutes evidence. I know you're willing to insult anyone with whom you disagree. But the fact remains that standards of evidence differ depending on the context of the discussion, the domain of inquiry, etc. Evidence in, say, cosmology or evolution is very different from evidence in, say, biology or physics. And that's without leaping out into the softer sciences. -- == glen e. p. ropella Looked pretty horny if I do say FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: [New post] The Loud and Clear Message that the TED Controversy is Sending
your certain kind of zeel would make for a great sith lord- Just need to figure out how get you intune with the force enough to get people to come attend at the new sith temple On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote: Doug if I may observe that you and Howl(sp) seem to have a great noes for asshoelery though in your case from what I can tell your ire for at least google and people not linux friendly goes up almost instantly. On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Douglas Roberts d...@parrot-farm.netwrote: Just one small teensy note of clarification: I usually only insult people who disagree with me when they are/have been complete assholes about it. Which fortunately narrows the field down a bit. -Doug On Apr 4, 2013 6:11 PM, glen g...@ropella.name wrote: Douglas Roberts wrote at 04/04/2013 04:45 PM: I was using evidence in the scientific sense, You say that as if everyone agrees on the scientific sense of the term, which of course they don't. Even reputable scientists disagree on what constitutes evidence. I know you're willing to insult anyone with whom you disagree. But the fact remains that standards of evidence differ depending on the context of the discussion, the domain of inquiry, etc. Evidence in, say, cosmology or evolution is very different from evidence in, say, biology or physics. And that's without leaping out into the softer sciences. -- == glen e. p. ropella Looked pretty horny if I do say FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Dennis Ritchie
Someone reminded me that of his joining the force https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453434584737549set=a.348806155200393.83004.348804618533880type=1ref=nf https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=453434584737549set=a.348806155200393.83004.348804618533880type=1ref=nf For those that are adverse to *grr arg and shutter* facebook: It basicly says that it's a bit of a injustice how Steve Jobs and Dennis Ritchie both joind the force close together without Steve: no expensive iproducts ( it notes the how long they both lived ) without Dennis Ritchie: no modern computing. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] How do forces work?
How forces work: Theres the dark forces and light forces with all persistant and guide your destiny. They push against each other yet somehow balance out. With enough of the dark forces you can choke people you deem incompitent, or shoot lightning from your hands. I hope that helps answers the questions. (I do work on fridays) On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: One of the replies to my question on StackExchange was that what really mattered was that something is accelerated. Since acceleration is really(?) a matter of a change in energy of the thing accelerated, perhaps the most fundamental interaction is the transfer of energy from one entity (whatever an entity is) to another. Do we have any reasonable way to talk about how that happens? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote: Along the lines that Lee is mentioning with fields being the first class objects, Bruce Sherwood may be able to illuminate some of the current thinking in Quantum Field Theory and how interpretations are made with respect to forces. Bruce? -Stephen On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote: Russ asks: Is there a mechanistic-type explanation for how forces work? For example, two electrons repel each other. How does that happen? Other than saying that there are force fields that exert forces, how does the electromagnetic force accomplish its effects. What is the interface/link/connection between the force (field) and the objects on which it acts. Or is all we can say is that it just happens: it's a physics primitive? I have the impression that the best you can say is that fields act on fields; fields are (the only) first-class objects, and what you're calling objects are at best second-class--they are epiphenomena of fields (or, of *the* field). There is (or was when I last tried to look into this, about 40 years ago) a concept of current (which I suppose is a generalization of our familiar electric current, but if so is such a generalization that I was unable to see the connection at all) which was in some way involved with interactions of fields. Maybe a Google search on current and Jakiw would turn up something useful, but probably not. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] How do forces work?
(bad joke aside): Russ do you have a specific type of force group of forces in mind? On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM, Russ Abbott russ.abb...@gmail.com wrote: One of the replies to my question on StackExchange was that what really mattered was that something is accelerated. Since acceleration is really(?) a matter of a change in energy of the thing accelerated, perhaps the most fundamental interaction is the transfer of energy from one entity (whatever an entity is) to another. Do we have any reasonable way to talk about how that happens? *-- Russ Abbott* *_* *** Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688* * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 2:09 PM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.com wrote: Along the lines that Lee is mentioning with fields being the first class objects, Bruce Sherwood may be able to illuminate some of the current thinking in Quantum Field Theory and how interpretations are made with respect to forces. Bruce? -Stephen On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 1:36 PM, lrudo...@meganet.net wrote: Russ asks: Is there a mechanistic-type explanation for how forces work? For example, two electrons repel each other. How does that happen? Other than saying that there are force fields that exert forces, how does the electromagnetic force accomplish its effects. What is the interface/link/connection between the force (field) and the objects on which it acts. Or is all we can say is that it just happens: it's a physics primitive? I have the impression that the best you can say is that fields act on fields; fields are (the only) first-class objects, and what you're calling objects are at best second-class--they are epiphenomena of fields (or, of *the* field). There is (or was when I last tried to look into this, about 40 years ago) a concept of current (which I suppose is a generalization of our familiar electric current, but if so is such a generalization that I was unable to see the connection at all) which was in some way involved with interactions of fields. Maybe a Google search on current and Jakiw would turn up something useful, but probably not. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] How do forces work?
hmm: So what happens if a repulicon and a boson colide? On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: leptons- I think it is all intermediate vector bosons... or maybe I just like the way that phrase sounds? -boson Thanks for all the answers. To answer John's question first, magnetism doesn't seem miraculous (it's too familiar), but I can't say I understand how it works. It was just that question about magnetism that Feynman was asked as the start of the videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFPe-DwULM in which he danced around the question before saying he couldn't give an intuitive answer. What would a satisfying answer look like? That's a very good question. Superficially it would be something like a sophisticated version of billiard balls: when one hits another, energy is transferred. But even that doesn't work well when looked at carefully. What happens in detail when one hits another. If the two objects were absolutely solid, how would one feel the impact of the other. Would the transfer simply become a primitive? If they were somewhat springy, how does that springyness work? And besides, there must be some surface-like thing that receives the impact and something more internal that absorbs it. Bruce's QM photon explanation is pretty close to what I'm looking for, but as he notes, it only works for repulsive forces. It also relies on primitives. In that case the emission and absorption of a photon and the associated transfer of energy seem to be primitive actions. The papers by Hobson look very interesting. They even look like I can read them. I haven't done that yet, though. As a software person, a good explanation is often something like an API. How does one object interact with another? We know that objects have capabilities (specified by their APIs), and that it's possible for one object to trigger the performance of a capability in another object. We don't ask how the triggering event gets from one to the other. That's magic at a lower level. We just assume that it can happen and that there isn't anything more to say about it at the object level of abstraction. So I would be (somewhat) happy with an answer that said (a) what the capabilities are (something like a API for elementary particles/fields) and (b) what the non-decomposable primitive actions are, e.g., like emit and absorb. *-- Russ Abbott* *_* * Professor, Computer Science* * California State University, Los Angeles* * My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688 * * Google voice: 747-*999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/ * vita: *sites.google.com/site/russabbott/ CS Wiki http://cs.calstatela.edu/wiki/ and the courses I teach *_* On Fri, Apr 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, John Kennison jkenni...@clarku.eduwrote: Russ, Before people knew about magnetism, it must have seemed miraculous that two stones would spontaneously start to move toward (or away from) each other. Now we can say, Oh, it's just magnetism. But if we think about long enough, we may still wonder how two objects can move toward or away from each other. My question would be, Does magnetism still seem a bit miraculous, or do you feel your question is answered, at least for magnetism? In either case, what would a satisfying answer look like? John From: Friam [friam-boun...@redfish.com] on behalf of Russ Abbott [ russ.abb...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 1:50 PM To: FRIAM Subject: [FRIAM] How do forces work? Yesterday I asked this question http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/61542/how-do-forces-work?noredirect=1#comment123788_61542 on StackExchange: physics. Is there a mechanistic-type explanation for how forces work? For example, two electrons repel each other. How does that happen? Other than saying that there are force fields that exert forces, how does the electromagnetic force accomplish its effects. What is the interface/link/connection between the force (field) and the objects on which it acts. Or is all we can say is that it just happens: it's a physics primitive? So far, there haven't been any answers that feel satisfying--although, please look at them yourselves. One of the comments pointed to a 7 1/2 minute video by Feynman, in which he talks around the problem before finally saying he can't provide an intuitive explanation. I don't think it was one of his better efforts. Does anyone on this list have an answer? -- Russ Abbott _ Professor, Computer Science California State University, Los Angeles My paper on how the Fed can fix the economy: ssrn.com/abstract=1977688 http://ssrn.com/abstract=1977688 Google voice: 747-999-5105 Google+: plus.google.com/114865618166480775623/
[FRIAM] google glass-
friend of mine sent me this: http://jacksonandwilson.com/google-glass/ thought I 'd share the love for friam to consider. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] robodialers and other kinds of phone spam
Mayhaps someone one the FRIAM list can enlighten me on this I've recently been getting all sorts of 1800 numbers calling at a long variety of numbers of the day- one I think was a bord fax machine- I canot fathom why these business can not fathom that some of us do not apreciate getting calls at 10 at night telling me all about how the sky is dayglow orange and tastes like chicken(from the voice mail) I also can not fathom why these robo dialers pick my google voice number- it only makes me think I want a bit bleach for the business genepool-and try set a speed record for how fast I can add the offending business to my spam list.. What kind of strange business model has somewhere in there: Piss off the customers? Why do we as a society put up with that? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] old parody
I found a old start me up parody for winders95: (now replace winders95 with winders8) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOwQKWiRJAA Some FRIAMERS might like it especially because theres rumous balmore and friends might be encouraging happy winders 7 users to upgrade to 8. Is it a bad time to chant something like: I heart my Android/Google Overlord? When is android coming to the desktop? or is that Real Soon Now? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: National Internet sales tax: Why I love the Marketplace Fairness Act, and you should, too. - Slate Magazine
Grr just no, the net is one of the few places where we aren't nickled and dimed with taxes or gulable consumers see 1.99 and think a penny less than 2 dollars is a savings. On Sun, May 5, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: This is an interesting article, appearing in the S.F. New Mexican sunday edition. (SFNM left out two paragraphs) http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/technology/2013/04/national_internet_sales_tax_why_i_love_the_marketplace_fairness_act_and.html Its interesting on a number of net culture as well as tax law perspectives: - The SFNM paper has a virtual publication's article. Slate and HuffPost seems quite popular. The new R euters ? - The article discusses retail tax, but with interesting nuances - Amazon supports it because they want to build large warehouses in most states for same-day delivery - Look out WalMart! - The law will only go into effect if all states simplify their tax codes and provide free software to on-line businesses - Conservatives and Liberals both agree that its time now .. the web businesses no longer need the subsidy . - As the population ages, they'd be fine with on-line buying with same day delivery, even from local businesses, and this law is likely to build an ecology for easy delivery, vans for example. - There is an exemption for on-line stores with less than $1million annual revenues. - The exception is being considered unfair with large, but not nation wide, on-line retailers, and by eBay who services many of them. -- Owen FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] digital divide closing?
The long made short is looking at a summer and fall period without school- I am interested to know if there are organizations that might need help who are in the business of closing that thing called the digital divide- so here I am pinging the smart folks at FRIAM: Hello smart folks at FRIAM anyone have some ideas where on earth I might get started on my evil plan to close the digital divide in and around santa fe? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] The rise and fall of the Microsoft empire
yes and no, Apple has had issues with gaining market dominance-and not from lack of effort or deep pockets they've have a dodgy history with gamers for instance who are willing to spend lots of money on software and a bit on hardware. One common argument is something like oh but you can custom build a PC for 900 dollars that has warpspeed Nvidia 9trillion with 4gigs of ram- and it'll run Call of Duty: black ops at 125 FPS- and those are the types of users I don't for see a linux distro being able to woo over. On the linux side of things- yes it's great that many linux distros are solid and have some amount of reliability in terms of active forums when issues come up, it's great the software is politically and technically correct in many aspects. However again there is no native MS. Office for linux, much less many top billed games the kinds of things that Joe Average looks for imidiatly. Joe Average has very little interest in the command line and having to edit lots of files just to get his pet software running. I've personally have tride to do some stunts with whine and it's painful. - those developers and designers haven't quite gotten the sex appeal of when something goes wrong with my apt-get --update and something goes kaboom to call a 1800 number. Untill those things happen windows isn't going anywhere. Though you do bring up a good point about the awkward transition of the mouse and click to a united tablet/desktop UI on the windows side. Ubuntu and Apple might be doing that a little better. On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 6:20 AM, Jochen Fromm j...@cas-group.net wrote: I tried to install an older Windows program on a new Windows 8 system today, but got a lot of errors and problems. Actually I tried to install CorelDraw9, which I have used for drawings in the past, on my new Samsung Series 7 Chronos laptop, which uses Windows 8 and Ubuntu 13.04 in a dual boot installation. The hassle during installation inspired me to write this blog post about the rise and fall of the Microsoft empire. http://4loc.wordpress.com/**2013/05/18/the-rise-and-fall-** of-the-microsoft-empire/http://4loc.wordpress.com/2013/05/18/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-microsoft-empire/ Somehow I have a feeling that the time of total market dominance for Microsoft is probably be over. What do you think? Apparently Microsoft has stumbled with Windows 8, and I wonder if they will be able to get up again. I can not get used to the changes of Windows 8, and I am sure a lot of people experience a similar frustration. People learned how to use a desktop with a mouse for about 20 years, and now they are expected to forget all they have learned. -J. ==**== FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/**listinfo/friam_redfish.comhttp://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] the samsung galaxy s4.
*Chris berman voice*: It. Will Go. All The. Way. So yeah- steeling the american football theme liberally: It's got a kick arse O-line in terms of what counts for me- and is looking to be a super bowl contender. Based on my usage from one day- mine needs to live on a stationary bike though so it can it can get it's endurance up. Short of that: Anyone have experience extended batteries and can recomend a man-you-facture? There's some contenders on that big-box-store that starts with an A- on the leaderbord of those seems to be zerolemmons offering. Feedback wanted. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] good cover for a smsung s4
Greetings! I'm looking into a tool that'd protect a samsung s4 from breaking in from a acidental drop and also something to keep it from breaking from acidentall water/tea/coffe spills at the santa fe baking compony (for example). FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Kindle Books error
Greetings, Family sent a kindle book gift for my birthday- deciding to claim it, I got a error saying the it's not available in the US Seems odd for book on math- wich I'm getting into- (thanks dad you are evil). Any ideas for a work around to this? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] wed tech mailing list app
Greetings! Who do I contact to find the status of my application to be on the wedtech mailing list? While it might be steve gaurun (sp?)-I'd think with the umpteen simulation projects he has going-I'd think some else is just as able to review my request. -Thanks in advance. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] wed tech mailing list app
yes but unlike other familliars he has strong drothers that might be a D20 roll problem :P On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Stephen Guerin stephen.gue...@redfish.comwrote: Hi Gil, I processed your subscription request from three days ago. If you have any changes you can also reach out to Owen Densmore. Are you familiar with him? :-) -S --- -. . ..-. .. ... - .-- --- ..-. .. ... stephen.gue...@redfish.com 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 office: (505) 995-0206 tollfree: (888) 414-3855 mobile: (505) 577-5828 fax: (505) 819-5952 tw: @redfishgroup skype: redfishgroup gvoice: (505) 216-6226 redfish.com | simtable.com On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Gillian Densmore gil.densm...@gmail.comwrote: Greetings! Who do I contact to find the status of my application to be on the wedtech mailing list? While it might be steve gaurun (sp?)-I'd think with the umpteen simulation projects he has going-I'd think some else is just as able to review my request. -Thanks in advance. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Ruged smartphones...or cases
Greetings! I'm going to move to virizon- simply because of t-mobo coverage. While I love the technology of the Galaxy S4 (and the like) I don't quite get why such inspiring technology is put inside of a fragile plastice case That being said I wonder if someone might be able to recomend one possible for the galaxy 4S FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] firefox super slow.
Hi all ever since firefox updated itself (tuesday I think) it's been super slow! Is ayone else using firefox and experiencing this? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] travle tips?
Hi all! I'll be traveling to see my aunt in seatle start of august- looking forward to it- but I thought I'd ping the FRIAM mailing list- for having things go as smoothly as possible. What should I expect? How (in practice) does one go about taking some prescribed stuff with them and OTC with them? I ask because I read a article by the economist written in 012 says that both prescribed meds and OTC's (such as asprin) it said for colledge students unsual smelling powders and uncolored powders or pills must be labled- So asprin needs to be in a bottle that says--asprin? (I ask because I have off/on back issues) It also recomends puting a change of clothes in a carry on- So does that meen a note saying: those happy pills are ok (for example)? Other things I should keep in mind to have a enjoyable experience? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] perplexed by trader joes
Hi all I go to trader joes to get stuff being single they have a history of selling stuff at a so-so cost but might (theoreticly) be a little better quality than smiths, the atmosphere definitely is. I got some eggs- and wanted some Oolong tea I thought they caried at one point. I asked one of the workers there this person said while I am welcome and encouraged to ask for it back he noted they had been getting hot asian influenced products that include the tea. Would they realy get stolen groceries? Or is this a fear of the stuff potentially have been eposed to radiation as some one I know (and I swear she wears a tinfoil hat) claimes This is indeed a complex question that also speeks a little to feers of radiation if the food comes from japan. coments? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] fires and weather
Another one for people that know vastly more about weather and chaos than I do: Forest fires season this year and the temperature outside: I love summer-october side of fall it's stupid pretty out. That being said: How much of the 25-40c heat as reported by NOA. Is thehe dry conditions and what seems to be just about zero humidity is inside of normal? What I'm groping for is: yowza is it hot and dry, and it seems like anything in the forests that can burn is burning- is this-somewhat normal? oO I seem to recall downtown about now (ie 430-5pm) trying to flood last year and the year before and the year before etc. Nick you seem to speak temperature and humidity any thoughts? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] fires and weather
That's very enlightining. On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:23 PM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Gil - This is an interesting and timely but potentially contentious topic. Interesting and timely because we ARE right in the midst of some big fires (recently)... I just drove through the Jemez to see some of the most recent fire's (Thompson Ridge) damage as well as from two years ago. Of course, the recent loss of 19 firefighters in AZ was is not a small reminder of the danger of these fires. My father worked for the US Forest Service from the 50's through the 80s, and summer was a continuous series of either local fires being fought nearby or him making long trips off to the really big fires in the pacific northwest where he often lead crews from Zuni (they were well known for their skill, tirelessness and cohesiveness). One of my earliest memories is of my mother driving us out to where they were trying to stop a fire from crossing the highway near the forest camp we lived in. We and some other local residents watched (safely) from a few hundred yards back in a large meadow as flames licked from the ponderosas on one side of the highway right of way toward the other side. As I remember it, they did hold the fire there, but only barely.This was the first of nearly 20 years of fire-stories I got to hear as they were unfolding. We had a fire-radio in the kitchen which was on 24/7 and busy throughout the summer. My father died less than a year ago and while helping my mother sort through possessions I encountered an outline of the many harrowing experiences he had in the forest service, starting with the famous Mann Gulch fire in Montana that took the lives of 13 fire fighters. My Father had just been accepted to Forestry School in Missoula and was driving toward there from Kentucky when that fire happened. He arrived as a fresh young Forestry Student in the aftermath of that very tragic and defining incident. This story is well documented in the 1992 book Young Men and Fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Men_and_Fire. Another tragic fire incident happened in the mid 1990's on the Storm King or South Canyon fire. One notable difference from the 1949 tragedy was that by this time firefighting crews included women... in this case I think 4 of the 14 killed were women. Not long after my father began work as a Forest Service Professional in Northern Arizona, one of his equally fresh colleagues, Billy Buck, was caught in a bad situation with a group of firefighters who he was able to save by using a technique similar to that of Wag Dodge of lighting a escape fire which clears the immediate area of combustibles in a lower-temperature fire, allowing firefighters to potentially survive in that Island of pre-burned area. This was not long after the Mann-Gulch fire and it helped to validate that Dodge's actions (he was only 1 of 3 survivors of the fire and the only one who chose to stay within the escape fire island while the others insisted on trying to outrun the fire to their peril). They huddled together under a tarp they had wet from their canteens while the fire blew past/over them. This technique was formalized in the mid 1970's when they started requiring every fire crew to carry a fire shelter which was essentially a tarp/tent with a reflective (think space blanket) coating. Suffocation is often a bigger danger even than the heat of the fire. Buck was credited with rescuing the entire crew with his forceful style (former marine)despite having no formal authority. My dad believed it was the only difference between his success and Wag Dodge's failure (to save more than himself). May father was appalled at how much building happened in the Pacific Northwest and even moreso in California, deep in the forested and other potentially fire-prone areas. In the relatively uninhabited southwest, even a huge fire would not be that likely to threaten habitation and when it did, efforts could be focused on the few, relatively small areas of habitation. In California, they were *always* fighting to protect habitations, not to stop the fire. As it turns out, the most good for the most people (well, the ecosystems we people are depending on) might have been literally NO Intervention... go figure. Guerin and the SimTable(tm) folks are naturally *much* more up to date on contemporary firefighting conditions and culture. During my father's time in the business, they had not yet realized the extent of the hazard they were creating by suppressing so many fires, causing ecosystems to go out of balance, allowing small, fast burning forest materials to build up to the point that they could ignite the larger, slower-to-burn full grown trees. They *were* aware of it however, having the example of the US Park Service whose policy at the time (started shifting in 1969) was complete suppression, overzealously not allowing
Re: [FRIAM] NIJ Challenge: Cost-Benefit of Sex Offender Registration Law
Hmm- Ok so here's a semi-philisphical question: Crime stinks- but aren't there better ways to adress these issues than the system we have developed? On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 6:21 PM, Tom Johnson t...@jtjohnson.com wrote: Looking for a creative programming project? -tom johnson -- *From: *newsfrom...@ncjrs.gov *To: *doro...@dorothybracey.com *Sent: *Tuesday, July 2, 2013 2:32:33 PM *Subject: *NIJ Challenge: Cost-Benefit of Sex Offender Registration Law [image: National Institute of Justice: Research, Development, Evaluation] *Let the games begin: NIJ latest SORNA Challenge* Are you up for the challenge? Enter NIJ's first-ever SORNA Challenge! NIJ is seeking innovative ways of developing strategies to measure the implementation costs and public safety benefits of the Sex Offender Registration and Notification Act (SORNA)—part of the Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act of 2006—by improving the effectiveness of sex offender registration and notification programs in the United States. Notification and registration programs have multiple public safety purposes, and empirical research on sex offenders has grown over the past decade. No study to date, however, has examined the multifaceted effects of SORNA, specifically the wide range of costs incurred in implementing the rules or the public safety benefits achieved. A cash prize of $50,000 is available. Deadline: Oct. 31. Learn more.http://nij.gov/funding/2013/sorna-challenge.htm Stay Connected [image: Twitter] https://twitter.com/OJPNIJ [image: Facebook] https://www.facebook.com/OJPNIJ [image: YouTube] http://youtube.com/OJPNIJ [image: RSS Feed] http://www.nij.gov/about/rss.htm [image: Podcasts] http://nij.gov/multimedia/podcast.htm DOJ link policies apply. http://www.justice.gov/legalpolicies.htm#other -- In lieu of the NIJ Conference, we are partnering with professional associations and participating in their annual events. See our panels at IACP, IACA, and NAPSA. Learn morehttp://www.nij.gov/nij/events/nij_conference/welcome.htm . -- Stay Connected with NCJRS! Register Now! Free registration with NCJRS keeps you informed about new publications, grant and funding opportunities, and other news and announcements. To register, visit: https://www.ncjrs.gov/subreg.html -- Unsubscribe https://puborder.ncjrs.gov/secure/register/optout.asp to periodic e-mail notifications from NCJRS or any of its sponsoring agencies. -- == J. T. Johnson Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USAhttp://www.analyticjournalism.com/ 505.577.6482(c)505.473.9646(h) Twitter: jtjohnson http://www.jtjohnson.com t...@jtjohnson.com == FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] This is a Real War: Samsung pays Apple $1 Billion Sending 30 Trucks Full of 5 Cent Coins | TCGeeks
Yes the answer is that news story needs to be clarified as: attempted to do so. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/aug/29/apple-samsung-trucks-nickels-fake On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jack Stafurik jstafu...@earthlink.netwrote: The ball is in Apple's court. Do they have the moxie to come up with a creative reply? http://www.tcgeeks.com/this-is-a-real-war-samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sendi ng-30-trucks-full-of-5-cent-coins/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] This is a Real War: Samsung pays Apple $1 Billion Sending 30 Trucks Full of 5 Cent Coins | TCGeeks
I had a feeling the topic of samsung would come up again. To my untrained eyes how Android looks on my Samsung Glaxy S4-when held next to a iphone- on the look and feel front don't (to me) look so simmiler that I'd pick up my samsung and mistake it for a iphone. So it comes down to fair and reasonable- I'm not a lawyer- I think if I handed my grandpa (bob) my samsung and dad handed him the iphone and asked him wich he thought was what- I think even at 90 years old Bob would likely say: aha the one you gave me gil is-what is that? I think he could tell the apple phone was a apple phone. I don't understand how that wouldn't be enough to stop junk lawsuits if the heart of the problem is apple complaining that android or samsung use rounded corners on some of the buttons. That being said the Android Apps I like to use are great! On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:38 AM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: I liked this: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/aug/28/apple-samsung-foreman-explains .. in the blog roll to the right of the article. Explains in detail how the jury worked and made the decision. Patents are tough. I got a couple for software, mainly relating to the fine old NeWS (network extensible window system) but then, while working on the Java Car, the skunkworks ended up with over a dozen all told. Takes a lot of time and is a hassle, but more: they are generally of questionable worth. Large companies mainly collect a war chest of them, and generally trade them back forth. IBM actually makes a huge amount per year on patent licensing. I think I'm generally against software patents. But copyright is far more abused .. it can be extended virtually forever. Some protection is fine, but too much is oppressive. -- Owen On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:08 AM, cody dooderson d00d3r...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2012/aug/29/apple-samsung-trucks-nickels-fake Cody Smith On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:52 AM, Jack Stafurik jstafu...@earthlink.netwrote: The ball is in Apple's court. Do they have the moxie to come up with a creative reply? http://www.tcgeeks.com/this-is-a-real-war-samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sendi ng-30-trucks-full-of-5-cent-coins/http://www.tcgeeks.com/this-is-a-real-war-samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cent-coins/ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Google gripe
I have a Gripe with Google, the update system is causing as much good as bad. For example I decided it'd be a good idea to try out the new-fangled Navigator/.Gmaps while heading out to the Reagle on Cerillos. Nothing else going on they crashed and crashed hard- just at a brief glimpse of the support forum with smiler complaints- I've asked Google (twice) when they'll get around to un-breaking a perfectly functional, and fun to use app. Nothing from them, My Fellow FRIAMers(TM) with all the cloud stuff going on (some of wich wants to rain). With all the fancy ways we can send people to the moon. How is it with all the fancy smart phone stuffs-is it not possible to have a smart phone that just works- the kind of smart phone that's built like a tank, yet has sex apeal and by gom enough smarts when I ask it how do I make General Choas Chicken the AI in question doesn't say: chaos theory master? FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Misc questions
I've inherited a MacBookPro laptop from Owen- a bit low on ram for my liking, some google-fu showed that newegg sells Kingston ram for this beuty- for 80 dollars before shipping (8 gigs-two 4 gig sticks)- Since I want to use this while visiting my aunt in tocoma/seatle area one part to help my aunt with her website- one part for entertainment: What's a good amount of ram for the adobe ecology to run as well as can be expected on this critter- cheaply? Where can I get that in town? Years ago when I had a sigificantly older laptop I went to buyos(sp)- but times have changed in computing and santa fe: Does bestbuy sell ram for this guy? --- Voice assistant software use has gotten me curius about the world of Machine Learning and AI's- With lots of books on the Amazon Market- what should I look for in a populist book because I'd like to learn more about it- What kind of google-fu search terms should I use to find blogs, mail lists (just to lurk on)? Thanks in advance! -Quapla'! FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] droid saga
After using voice to text a bunch on my droid, and it crashing HARD yesterday like blue screen of death hard Apps are working but not voice commands. Sent asked google when they intend to fix it they only say Real Soon Now FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
Re: [FRIAM] droid saga
lol very good point! Well then- Game on. On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM, Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com wrote: Gil - Unfortunately everyone on FRIAM is 1 degree of separation from Doug and we can all expect the same level of customer service until the end of time! - Steve After using voice to text a bunch on my droid, and it crashing HARD yesterday like blue screen of death hard Apps are working but not voice commands. Sent asked google when they intend to fix it they only say Real Soon Now FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] Macbookpro memory (circa 2008-2009?)
Greetings all- pinging wedtech and FRIAM- For those that don't know, I was given Owens old macbookpro (ID:2,1 )- I had tride it out with a 4gig stick of ram. The lapy wouldn't boot, suspecting this is a sign of having been sold bad ram it's on it's way back to Amazon for them to deel with. Question: I'd like to Know from folks that might a lapytop around that time if it's actually worth it to the thing up to speed ram wise: Usage is: I'm fairly typical of someone about my age: When I'm not doing stuff related to finishing my web-design cert it's quite a bit of computer gaming, and rocking out to music while playing those games. Would enjoy heering from anyone that's more than 4gigs in a maclaptop of that era, before installing more ram FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] the macbook saga, and and great torrent software?
Just a quick update: -Depending on the the vintage of the MacbookPro i've inherited it might (or might not) be possible to get it up to 6 gigs of ram (Urg) -What all do people use for getting vintage software from TPB? In winderz land you might might use bitcomet- fairly fast, I don't see that for macs- FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
[FRIAM] #winderz #winderz/mac.#travel
Getting ready for travel- taking Owens fairly old laptop- puting some stuff on it- Dream weaver and Photoshop working. Somewhere in the process of updating Warcraft on the laptop I wondered: What on earth are you suposed to do when there's a nice Game or social media type of app thats winderz only! It seems fairly heavy handed to run winderz in VMware to get your Call of Duty (for example) What do other young folks do about this? I've been trying to find a solid answer to another pragmatic question: Is the TSA realy going to take one look at my bodels of: Melotonin and Velarian Root and say: them. bin. now? My own inclination is to say: yes they probably will- since it'd need to be a fairly hippy TSA person note they are bad ass for travel and acclimating. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
