Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-09 Thread Andrew . Savige
Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: The Beginners'Leaderboard helped me to go on stage unashamed, and this is its part (do you think so, Andrew ?). Andrew Savige wrote: It worked wonderfully in this game because Peter Makholm, Jason Parker and Stephen Turner staged an epic duel right up to the final

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-03 Thread Steffen Müller
Andrew Savige [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... | Permit me to make another observation. In Ton's game, Spiff won | on 131 strokes. Ian Phillips (141) and me (138) were in the middle | of the field. Yet if Ian and I had seen each other's

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-03 Thread Eugene van der Pijll
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schreef op 03 februari 2002: How about this? printf%010d\n,$.,eugene: 21 strokes -p }{$_=$.+1e9.$/^\ca ton:21 strokes -p }{$_=$.+1e9.$/^v1 bob:20 strokes Proving that Eugene can indeed be beaten, albeit only after two months of

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-02 Thread Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat
On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, Bill -OSX- Jones wrote: On Saturday, February 2, 2002, at 01:40 AM, Rick Myers wrote: s///e and s///ee really does. e 'eval's the s/// results and ee re'eval's THAT result :) I guess it's time for me to brag about things I did with a few /e use

RE: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-02 Thread Andrew . Savige
Bart Lateur wrote: What the heck can *anybody* do to improve Eugene's solution? When paricipating in Perl golf, he's virtually always in the lead. I'll play, so long as I'm in Eugene's team. ;-) A team game has never been tried (to my knowledge) so we cannot be sure whether it is a good idea

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-02 Thread Ton Hospel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, you can e.g. try to find a variant of: -p /[aeiouy]?(?{$_ x=1~$.split$})/ that doesn't coredump. That could be a winner. Ton, I *knew* you were still trying (as am I). Maybe Ton and me are the

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-02 Thread Ton Hospel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: PS, did you know you can solve entry 5 in the Santa game with -p }{$_=$.+1e9.$/^\ca (hard control-A) How about this? printf%010d\n,$.,eugene: 21 strokes -p }{$_=$.+1e9.$/^\ca

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Dave Hoover
Andrew wrote: You will notice that Peter, Jason and Stephen are all accomplished programmers and very bright too (one has written a scheme interpreter, and at least one of them has a PhD). It is very hard for a beginner programmer to compete with them. Wow, that makes me feel a lot

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Jason Henry Parker
Dave Hoover [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Andrew wrote: You will notice that Peter, Jason and Stephen are all accomplished programmers and very bright too (one has written a scheme interpreter, and at least one of them has a PhD). It is very hard for a beginner programmer to compete with them.

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick
On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:02:11PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: programmer beginner. You will notice that Peter, Jason and Stephen are all accomplished programmers and very bright too (one has written a scheme interpreter, and at least one of them has a PhD). It is very hard for a beginner

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Stephen Turner
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: On Fri, Feb 01, 2002 at 07:02:11PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: programmer beginner. You will notice that Peter, Jason and Stephen are all accomplished programmers and very bright too (one has written a scheme interpreter, and at least

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Philippe 'BooK' Bruhat
En réponse à Matthew Byng-Maddick [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I was actually wondering about whether people should post affiliations to pm groups too? I'm part of cam.pm, as is Stephen. BooK is obviously part of paris.pm, and Piers, a part of the infamous Buffy Worshippers... Er, why obviously? It

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread csaba . raduly
On 01/02/2002 08:02:11 Andrew.Savige wrote: [snip] You might even have a third novice section to generate some excitement for the golfer who is both a Perl beginner and a programmer beginner. You will notice that Peter, Jason and Stephen are all accomplished programmers and very bright too

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Steffen Müller
- Original Message - From: Jérôme Quelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Beginner's definition ? Le Vendredi 1 Février 2002 12:31, Steffen Müller a écrit : What about offering pre-game sign-ups and randomly creating groups of 4-5 players who are then supposed to submit one entry

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Steffen Müller
- Original Message - From: Piers Cawley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Steffen Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 12:43 PM Subject: Re: Beginner's definition ? Steffen Müller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about offering pre-game sign-ups

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Jérôme Quelin
Le Vendredi 1 Février 2002 12:31, Steffen Müller a écrit : What about offering pre-game sign-ups and randomly creating groups of 4-5 players who are then supposed to submit one entry? That would be a great opportunity for beginners to learn from the pros. I would certainly participate in such

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Bart Lateur
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:37:40 +0100, Jérôme Quelin wrote: I mean, what the heck could a beginner do to improve Eugene's solution? What the heck can *anybody* do to improve Eugene's solution? When paricipating in Perl golf, he's virtually always in the lead. -- Bart.

Re: [JaxPM] Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Bill -OSX- Jones
That is true - very few of us Jax.PM'ers are local :( On Friday, February 1, 2002, at 12:45 PM, J Proctor wrote: On the jacksonville-pm-list; Jax.PM'er J Proctor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote - I would love to OFFER my groups skills to such an event - we would mop the floor with the other

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Jonathan E. Paton
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:37:40 +0100, Jérôme Quelin wrote: I mean, what the heck could a beginner do to improve Eugene's solution? What the heck can *anybody* do to improve Eugene's solution? I bet Eugene hasn't finished with it yet... Jonathan Paton

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Ton Hospel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jonathan E. Paton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 12:37:40 +0100, Jérôme Quelin wrote: I mean, what the heck could a beginner do to improve Eugene's solution? What the heck can *anybody* do to improve Eugene's solution? I bet Eugene

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-02-01 Thread Rick Klement
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Beginner _programmers_ should not play golf (perhaps not even watch). They need to learn to use the language before abusing it. Perl Golf should come with a warning label, something like: This code was created by a professional programmer on a closed-circuit

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-31 Thread sfritz
and we can have a golf game to see who can write the program to handle the database! Kye. *shivers*

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-31 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: What is the definition of a beginner? [snip] Thank you for all your answers. I like Yanick's Zen approach, supported by Peter. I hope that Ton's sentence... In fact, maybe we should drop the whole expert/beginner thing and have a PGA

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-31 Thread Andrew . Savige
Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: I like Yanick's Zen approach, supported by Peter. So do I. Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: The Beginners'Leaderboard helped me to go on stage unashamed, and this is its part (do you think so, Andrew ?). I was shocked at how successful the Beginner's Leaderboard was. I did

Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-30 Thread Jean-Pierre Vidal
Hello, What is the definition of a beginner? I think anybody is a beginner the first time (s)he plays golf. Is this correct? thks Jean-Pierre

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-30 Thread Andrew . Savige
Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: What is the definition of a beginner? I think anybody is a beginner the first time (s)he plays golf. Is this correct? Well, I suppose it is up to the tournament host. It will be interesting to see what Eugene does for the Dutch Masters. Since I have never actually

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-30 Thread Ton Hospel
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: What is the definition of a beginner? I think anybody is a beginner the first time (s)he plays golf. Is this correct? Well, I suppose it is up to the tournament host. It will be interesting to see

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-30 Thread Yanick
Jean-Pierre Vidal wrote: What is the definition of a beginner? I think anybody is a beginner the first time (s)he plays golf. Is this correct? Here, I would take the Zen approach and say that beginnership is something personal. If you turn your gaze inward (metaphorically speaking,

Re: Beginner's definition ?

2002-01-30 Thread Kye Leslie
hiya guys.. :) I tend to define a golf beginner as is not yet very familiar with the classic perl golf tricks. If i see someone using -p }{ and $; to save a space, I don't really consider him a beginner. I would definitely consider myself a beginner (I tried to compete in the last one but