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Also, making sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well.
I have gotten extremely confusing advice in this area in the past, and
the available documentation
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On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 10:54 PM, Benson Margulies bimargul...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by
not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset.
Me too.
Personally, I have no objection to including mutant
Looking into ManifoldCF a bit, I think what you need is
* buildable source release that contains all the source for ManifoldCF
* source release that contains all the custom patches for the
dependencies that need patches
Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which
contains the
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which
contains the upstream patches), plus a lib release, which is to be
overlaid on the source release to allow it to build.
I wouldn't call it strongly, rather
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which
contains the upstream patches), plus a lib release, which is to be
overlaid on
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
Our mentor(s) are pushing strongly for a source release (which
contains
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:43 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 10:33 AM, ant elder ant.el...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like I wasn't clear enough.
The proposal is for the following release artifacts:
(1) A source-only tar
(2) A source+binary dependencies convenience tar
(3) A binary tar
This is instead of:
(1) A source-only tar
(2) A binary dependencies convenience tar
(3) A binary tar
Hope that
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
It sounds like I wasn't clear enough.
The proposal is for the following release artifacts:
(1) A source-only tar
(2) A source+binary dependencies convenience tar
(3) A binary tar
This is instead of:
(1) A source-only
Hope that helps... The question is, will Roy (or anyone else) be
unwilling to vote for the first option?
Having been one of the people that commented and started the thread, I feel
like I was wearing loose clothing while operating machinery, per Roy's guidance
on the source being the thing
Also, making sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well.
I have gotten extremely confusing advice in this area in the past, and
the available documentation does not help. I believe I am adhering to
Roy's principles, but before we spin another release candidate, I'd
like it very
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I have gotten extremely
the same root. Is that correct?
Karl
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Subject: Re: Question about downloading binaries
Also, making sure the other comments on NOTICEs are addressed as well.
I have gotten extremely confusing advice in this area in the past
, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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To: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
You didn't CC the list
Karl Wright wrote on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:33:56 -0400:
The patches for the dependencies for the main release are sourced
only
as part
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2 April 2012 16:36, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
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To: Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com
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Karl Wright wrote on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:33:56 -0400:
The patches for the dependencies for the main release are sourced
only
2012 16:36, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
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Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Question about downloading binaries
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Karl Wright wrote on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:33:56 -0400
2012 16:36, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
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Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM
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Karl Wright wrote on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:33:56 -0400:
The patches for the dependencies for the main release are
sourced
:
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Date: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: Question about downloading binaries
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Karl Wright wrote on Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 11:33:56
Karl,
I'm exceedingly sorry here that the IPMC as a whole let you down by
not turning into these issues and dealing with them at the outset.
There's been a lot of sensitivity expressed lately to Apache projects
stepping on each other's toes.
Personally, I have no objection to including mutant
what's the use-case for non-well-formed
XML?' This thread is probably not the best place to delve further in
that direction.
Simple use case: parsing malformed RSS feeds. I agree, though, we're
getting into the weeds here; I'd love to have this discussion
elsewhere, but the point does stand that
I think the bigger picture here is that resolving differences of this
kind requires time, and during the interim we need to be able to
release software anyway. I have no wish to maintain a forked copy of
either xerces or httpclient indefinitely, but right at the moment we
are not prepared or able
On 2 April 2012 22:45, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the bigger picture here is that resolving differences of this
kind requires time, and during the interim we need to be able to
release software anyway. I have no wish to maintain a forked copy of
either xerces or httpclient
Whether it is necessary is another matter, and is not easy to answer
in general as it depends.
I'm going to treat this as unnecessary, because we were extremely
careful to maintain backwards compatibility when writing the changes.
Karl
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 6:59 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com
On 3 April 2012 00:38, Karl Wright daddy...@gmail.com wrote:
Whether it is necessary is another matter, and is not easy to answer
in general as it depends.
I'm going to treat this as unnecessary, because we were extremely
careful to maintain backwards compatibility when writing the changes.
Hi,
[dropped infrastructure@]
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:43 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you be certain that the non-standard jars will not interfere with
the standard jars?
ManifoldCF is a standalone application, not a library you'd use as a
dependency of another application. Thus
On 3 April 2012 00:48, Jukka Zitting jukka.zitt...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
[dropped infrastructure@]
On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:43 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote:
Can you be certain that the non-standard jars will not interfere with
the standard jars?
ManifoldCF is a standalone application,
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