On 10/01/2009 07:50 AM, Dale wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking about upgrading to gcc-4.4 and was wondering if anyone here
is using it and if they are having any problems with it. I'm using a
desktop system with KDE and OOo as the biggest packages. No servers or
anything to worry about like apache.
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Dale wrote:
Thanks. What exactly is gcc-porting? I did a quick search and found a
page on freshmeat but it seemed to be related to MS-DOS or something.
Dale
:-) :-)
gcc-porting overlay, install via layman. It had
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 10/01/2009 07:50 AM, Dale wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking about upgrading to gcc-4.4 and was wondering if anyone here
is using it and if they are having any problems with it. I'm using a
desktop system with KDE and OOo as the biggest packages. No servers or
anything to
Change it in Systemsettings. I use konsole-4.3.1 with kde-3.5.10 and
after the change it opens firefox for me.
What all do you unmask for this? I'm still kicking around 3.5.10, but I
wouldn't mind some updated apps, and some of the new Konsole features sound
useful (which is ironic, since
Helmut Jarausch schrieb:
On 30 Sep, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Mittwoch 30 September 2009 17:40:43 schrieb Helmut Jarausch:
I've been using fcron for quite some time, but
now it behaves strange.
I have version 3.0.4-r2 installed.
Doing fcrontab -e as non-root user
I get
Could not change
Am 01.10.2009 08:27, schrieb daid kahl:
What all do you unmask for this? I'm still kicking around 3.5.10, but I
wouldn't mind some updated apps, and some of the new Konsole features sound
useful (which is ironic, since they were laid out as to why there aren't
differences from 3.5.10...)
I
Stroller schrieb:
Didn't the e1000 module change name in a recent kernel release?
I carried this notion, too. I thought it was mentioned on the list but a
quick search didn't find it.
It was in thread: NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade at 15th Feb 2009.
There are two modules in the
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:15:11 -0500, Dale wrote:
It does look pretty good. Hopefully this will be better than the last
upgrade. Seamonkey went goofy and I couldn't compile a kernel at all.
I don't know what happened.
Giving this some more thought before jumping in tho. ;-)
4.4 is
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 01:15:11 -0500, Dale wrote:
It does look pretty good. Hopefully this will be better than the last
upgrade. Seamonkey went goofy and I couldn't compile a kernel at all.
I don't know what happened.
Giving this some more thought before jumping in
Can you show the results of `modprobe -v e1000` please?
Code:
# modprobe -v e1000
FATAL: Module e1000 not found.
... but ...
Code:
# find /lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r6/ -type f -iname '*.o' -or -iname '*.ko' |
grep e1000
/lib/modules/2.6.30-gentoo-r6/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/e1000.ko
Nothing
On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote:
Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big.
That's what she said.
(Sorry, couldn't resist :P)
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 06:48 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Daniel Troeder schrieb:
Same here. After booting no sound ... in PA all looks good, after some
searching I find alsamixer mutes things ... sigh ... but as long as
there aren't more problems I can live with it.
You can set things
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote:
Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big.
That's what she said.
(Sorry, couldn't resist :P)
I was trying to make Nikos into a girl for a second there. LOL I need
to get some sleep.
It's compiled and
Dale schrieb:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote:
Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big.
That's what she said.
(Sorry, couldn't resist :P)
I was trying to make Nikos into a girl for a second there. LOL I need
to get some sleep.
On 30 Sep, Doug Hunley wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:40, Helmut Jarausch
jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote:
Hi,
I've been using fcron for quite some time, but
now it behaves strange.
I have version 3.0.4-r2 installed.
If you mask that version and downgrade, does the issue persist?
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Dale schrieb:
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 10/01/2009 11:45 AM, Dale wrote:
Thanks for the info. It's compiling right now. Boy it is big.
That's what she said.
(Sorry, couldn't resist :P)
I was trying to make Nikos into a girl
On 10/01/2009 01:49 AM, Cinder wrote:
Can you show the results of `modprobe -v e1000` please?
Code:
# modprobe -v e1000
FATAL: Module e1000 not found.
Try running 'depmod'.
Dale schrieb:
Yup, it took about three seconds but didn't emerge anything so I guess I
am good to go. Yeppie!!
Thats normal, because it never emerges anything. It only changes
references by patching files.
Greetings
Sebastian
Daniel Troeder schrieb:
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 06:48 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Daniel Troeder schrieb:
Same here. After booting no sound ... in PA all looks good, after some
searching I find alsamixer mutes things ... sigh ... but as long as
there aren't more problems I can live with
On Thu, 1 Oct 2009 15:27:47 +0900, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote:
Change it in Systemsettings. I use konsole-4.3.1 with kde-3.5.10 and
after the change it opens firefox for me.
What all do you unmask for this? I'm still kicking around 3.5.10, but I
wouldn't mind some updated apps, and
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 05:55, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de
Strangely not,
ls -ld /var/spool/fcron
gives
drwsrws--- 2 stunnel fcron 4096 Oct 1 11:31 /var/spool/fcron
So, who is 'stunnel'. The corr. entry in /etc/passwd is
stunnel:x:104:1007:added by portage for
On 1 Oct 2009, at 06:38, Dale wrote:
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
...
gcc-porting helped tho
Thanks. What exactly is gcc-porting?
Well, duh! It's where you enlarge polish the compiler's intake
valves, to improve airflow.
Stroller.
On Wednesday 30 September 2009 20:20:01 Roy Wright wrote:
Here's what I did which seems to work nicely:
Created an auto hide panel centered on top edge.
Added the activity bar widget to this panel.
Create Activity (cashew, Zoom Out, alt-D alt-A, then select setup
(wrench icon) (you may
Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you
consider to be stupid what I gonna say.
Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of
freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But...
There're ones who prefer primitive hardcoding over
On 10/1/2009 10:44 AM, Arthur D. wrote:
I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I considered
it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am a VIM
fan. And here the troubles begin...
Run sudo visudo and you get this:
~ $ sudo visudo
visudo: no editor found
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote:
Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you
consider to be stupid what I gonna say.
Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of
freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But...
Arthur D. wrote:
Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you
consider to be stupid what I gonna say.
Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of
freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But...
There're ones who prefer
Hello list,
I've noticed that with linux geekery comes the pursuit of PGP-based
email privacy. A great many frequent posters to this illustrious list
boast PGP keypairs and frequently sign their correspondences. Some of
you even have photo ID's of yourselves in your public keys! (Hello Neil!)
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 17:44 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
[long post about something relatively trivial]
sudoedit (and others) use the EDITOR (or VISUAL or whatever) environment
variable to chose an editor.
Gentoo defaults to nano. It's easy to change it (most experienced Linux
users do).
# emerge
Arthur D. wrote:
Many of us prefer editors other than nano.
Me included. I don't have nano installed here - I use LE.
The package SUDO. It is one of the most mandatory packages in distro.
Hmm. It's not even installed on any of my 15 systems - no use for it
whatsoever.
The default editor is
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 11:11 AM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote:
[very clear, consice, polite answer to the OP's question]
And he's right, as a meta distribution, it just works is generally
*not* regarded as a Gentoo principle to shoot for.
And oddly, in fact, it usually it's
Thanks for your replies, guys.
2. Change the default editor on your system by putting something in
/etc/env.d:
apollo ~ # cat /etc/env.d/99editor
EDITOR=vim
--Mike
===
spi...@supervisor ~ $ cat /etc/env.d/99editor
# Configuration file for
Dan Cowsill wrote:
Hello list,
I've noticed that with linux geekery comes the pursuit of PGP-based
email privacy. A great many frequent posters to this illustrious list
boast PGP keypairs and frequently sign their correspondences. Some of
you even have photo ID's of yourselves in your
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:44:41 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
My quests leaded me to the ebuild
of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there:
--with-editor=/bin/nano
P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not override our
favourites.
What you you think that line in the ebuild does? It
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 11:03:23 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote:
Unfortunately, like many of you, I am not an international spy and don't
have much to protect with this awesome encryption technology.
My main concern is verification. If it ain't signed by me, you can't
assume it is from me.
This
leads
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking about upgrading to gcc-4.4 and was wondering if anyone here
is using it and if they are having any problems with it. I'm using a
desktop system with KDE and OOo as the biggest packages. No servers or
On 1 Oct 2009, at 15:44, Arthur D. wrote:
...
I just installed VIM with emerge, and removed nano because I
considered
it to be absolutely unnecessary in my system. Why I need nano? I am
a VIM
fan. And here the troubles begin...
Run sudo visudo and you get this:
~ $ sudo visudo
visudo:
On 1 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Stroller wrote:
...
So it seems to me that you're right. It appears like maybe when
`sudo` detects that it's running `visudo` it does seem to ignore
$EDITOR. I, too, disagree with this behaviour. IMO the ebuild (--
with-editor=/bin/nano) take the editor from
Arthur D. wrote:
The first option works fine, but ... how much time should the user
spend to get things just work as expected?
Plainly put, Gentoo isn't an easy-to-use distro. If it were, I don't
think I would be using it, paradoxically enough. If spending a little
time learning about and
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:58:43 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
1. emerge -C nano
2. emerge vim
3. export EDITOR=`which vim`
4. Or do eselect editor - env-update ; or edit /etc/rc.conf -
env-update 5. Reemerge sudo if you wish (it will not change anything)
6. Relogin
7. Run sudo visudo
You get this:
1. emerge -C nano
2. emerge vim
3. export EDITOR=`which vim`
4. Or do eselect editor - env-update ; or edit /etc/rc.conf -
env-update 5. Reemerge sudo if you wish (it will not change anything)
6. Relogin
7. Run sudo visudo
You get this:
visudo: no editor found (editor path = /bin/nano)
No I
On 10/01/2009 11:34 AM, Arthur D. wrote:
Thanks for your replies, guys.
2. Change the default editor on your system by putting something in
/etc/env.d:
apollo ~ # cat /etc/env.d/99editor
EDITOR=vim
--Mike
===
spi...@supervisor ~ $ cat
On 10/01/2009 11:58 AM, Arthur D. wrote:
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct
2009 18:45:20 +0300:
My quests leaded me to the ebuild
of sudo. And I saw this nice shiny line there:
--with-editor=/bin/nano
P.S. Having defaults is not bad. But they should not
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru:
Hello, happy Gentoo users! I'm new on this distro, so I'm sorry if you
consider to be stupid what I gonna say.
Many of us prefer editors other than nano. Some of us believe in ideas of
freedom and choice which Gentoo provides us with. But...
There're
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:21:07 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
I gonna bet you added magic line to your sudoers previously or make
some other
crutches to make it work:
Defaults env_keep=EDITOR
You lost that bet.
--
Neil Bothwick
Is it possible to be totally partial?
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Description:
I gonna bet you added magic line to your sudoers previously or make
some other
crutches to make it work:
Defaults env_keep=EDITOR
You lost that bet.
Proof?
Section 8.c of the Gentoo Handbook (called System Information) advises
you to edit /etc/rc.conf to change your preferences.
Daniel, I
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru:
I gonna bet you added magic line to your sudoers previously or make
some other
crutches to make it work:
Defaults env_keep=EDITOR
You lost that bet.
Proof?
Section 8.c of the Gentoo Handbook (called System Information) advises
you to edit
I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and
in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means
the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is
still using that configuration, maybe that's because some
configuration file has
As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this link for
discussion:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html
Thanks.
--
Best regards, Spinal
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru
I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and
in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means
the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is
still using that configuration, maybe
On 2009-09-30, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
That particular device also does S-Video, but you're never
going to get wonderful quality when using a TV without a VGA
or HDMI connection.
S-Video should be a little better (not much). Hotels should
provide VGA/DVI/HDMI inputs on TVs
James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios,
why it's not solved by portage? So the users should spend their
time diggin in manuals to find why is sudo not working in Gentoo
like it does in LFS or any other distro?.. Is this the Gentoo way
or something?
--
Best regards, Spinal
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote:
As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this link for
discussion:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html
Thanks.
wow, you must have been VERY obnoxious to have the bug closed for others.
First time I see that.
On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:07, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote:
As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this
link for
discussion:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html
wow, you must have been VERY obnoxious to have the
On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:40, Stroller wrote:
On 1 Oct 2009, at 19:07, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Arthur D. wrote:
As the access to the bug was denied by the admin please use this
link for
discussion:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-795069.html
wow, you
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:10:19 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios,
So you're just ranting, you don't actually have a problem to solve and
your question was rhetorical venting?
why it's not solved by portage?
What problem? That the default editor
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:34:15 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
Man, running sudo visudo and just running visudo is not the same.
True, but both call $EDITOR here.
Be careful. Nano is hardcoded in sudo's ebuild.
Yes, as a default when no other editor is specified. That means no
$EDITOR variable visible
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru
James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios,
why it's not solved by portage? So the users should spend their
time diggin in manuals to find why is sudo not working in Gentoo
like it does in LFS or any other distro?.. Is this the Gentoo way
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 05:08:16PM +0100, Stroller wrote:
On 1 Oct 2009, at 16:40, Stroller wrote:
...
So it seems to me that you're right. It appears like maybe when
`sudo` detects that it's running `visudo` it does seem to ignore
$EDITOR. I, too, disagree with this behaviour. IMO
Arthur D. wrote:
James Ausmus, I solved this proble long ago. I just curios,
why it's not solved by portage? So the users should spend their
time diggin in manuals to find why is sudo not working in Gentoo
like it does in LFS or any other distro?.. Is this the Gentoo way
or something?
Am Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009 21:32:56 schrieb forgottenwizard:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was mentioned.
Because that's the worst thing to do. An ebuild's behaviour should not depend
on env variables (like it's still the case for
Perhaps you should find a distribution more suited to your
abilities/expectations. Clearly,
Gentoo is not for you.
Really? Do you just give up and eat what people tell you to eat?
I don't respect such people, really.
I prefer to change the things, that I think are not right.
Obtruding the
Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01
Oct 2009 22:45:40 +0300:
Am Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009 21:32:56 schrieb forgottenwizard:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was mentioned.
Because that's the worst
James Ausmus james.aus...@gmail.com писал(а) в своём письме Thu, 01 Oct
2009 22:04:38 +0300:
The Gentoo Way of doing things is to stick as close to vanilla
upstream as possible, and to enable you to have complete control over
your box, including configurations. In other words, if you want
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 15:08 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Daniel Troeder schrieb:
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 06:48 +0200, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote:
Daniel Troeder schrieb:
Same here. After booting no sound ... in PA all looks good, after some
searching I find alsamixer mutes things ...
On 10/1/2009 1:34 PM, Arthur D. wrote:
I'm using a 4 years old system, and if I change that line, log out and
in again, it changes the env variable and everything works (that means
the behavior is probably caused by your configuration). If visudo is
still using that configuration, maybe that's
On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was mentioned. This defaults to nano so it should
work fine in a default install, and would avoid issues like this which
seems to be an arguement that the dev(s)
I would be hesitant to use a user-specific variable like EDITOR to
define the system-wide default on an ebuild. For example, what if my
EDITOR was set to gvim or emacs when I installed sudo, then some other
remote user tried to run visudo over ssh?
Consider that gvim will be just a
On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:28, Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was mentioned. This defaults to nano so it should
work fine in a default install, and would avoid issues like this
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Stroller wrote:
On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:28, Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was mentioned. This defaults to nano so it should
work fine in a
On 1 Oct 2009, at 22:01, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009, Stroller wrote:
On 1 Oct 2009, at 21:28, Mike Edenfield wrote:
On 10/1/2009 3:32 PM, forgottenwizard wrote:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was
Paul Hartman wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
mailto:rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking about upgrading to gcc-4.4 and was wondering if
anyone here
is using it and if they are having any problems with it. I'm using a
On 10/1/2009 6:26 PM, Dale wrote:
It has finished the emerge -e system so far. Not a single failure that
I can see. Do have to update a config file tho. ;-)
In case anyone's keeping score, I've been using gcc-4.4 with the
hardened profile (from the hardened-development overlay, of course)
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:45:51 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
It's like, oh, please you install nano, or I refuse to run.
It's nothing like that at all. As long as you have an editor installed
and configured correctly, visudo will quite happily run without nano.
--
Neil Bothwick
Help put the fun
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:12:36 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
I think it's most reasonably to omit that hardcoding line from ebuild.
I think you need to re-read the ebuild. sudo depends on virtual/editor,
not nano. Nowhere is nano hardcoded to be a requirement of sudo. On the
other hand, if you went
On 1 Oct 2009, at 23:53, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:12:36 +0300, Arthur D. wrote:
I think it's most reasonably to omit that hardcoding line from
ebuild.
I think you need to re-read the ebuild. sudo depends on virtual/
editor,
not nano. Nowhere is nano hardcoded to be a
On Fri, 2 Oct 2009 00:54:50 +0100, Stroller wrote:
I think you need to re-read the ebuild. sudo depends on virtual/
editor,
not nano. Nowhere is nano hardcoded to be a requirement of sudo. On
the
other hand, if you went with the upstream settings, you'd need to
add vim
as a
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 09:45:40PM +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
Am Donnerstag 01 Oktober 2009 21:32:56 schrieb forgottenwizard:
However, I'm also wondering why the ebuild doesn't make use of the
EDITOR variable as was mentioned.
Because that's the worst thing to do. An ebuild's behaviour
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 12:04:38PM -0700, James Ausmus wrote:
2009/10/1 Arthur D. spinal...@mail.ru
The Gentoo Way of doing things is to stick as close to vanilla upstream as
possible, and to enable you to have complete control over your box,
including configurations. In other words, if you
In response to the subject and the OP . . .
YES!
If you'd rather have your free OS accommodate your needs, then perhaps
you should find/create one. Otherwise, shut up or make your
suggestions less obnoxious (realizing the non-native English issue).
The OP's position (from what I can tell) has
On Thu, 2009-10-01 at 20:55 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
To claim that I try to change things that are 'wrong' (I fight for
injustice) is silly, in this context. This is not civil rights . . .
this is not genocide . . . this is an OS distro that is free and MAY
fit your needs. To complain about
You appear to be demonstrating that you don't fully understand the
problem:
828 ~ $ grep nano /usr/portage/app-admin/sudo/sudo-1.7.2_p1.ebuild
# XXX: /bin/vi may not be available, make nano visudo's default.
--with-editor=/bin/nano \
How so? That config option for sudo
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