On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of
'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which
have changed, run 'emerge -Dup world' to see what order of emerging is
recommended, then
On 12/4/2009 10:21 PM, Dale wrote:
Thanks goodness for Konsole and being able to scroll up.
Where I come from, we use | less :p
Marcus
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of
'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which
have changed, run 'emerge -Dup world' to see what order of emerging is
Marcus Wanner wrote:
On 12/4/2009 10:21 PM, Dale wrote:
Thanks goodness for Konsole and being able to scroll up.
Where I come from, we use | less :p
Marcus
That works too and I do use it sometimes. It is a must when in a plain
console tho. Of course some would argue for | more too.
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:31:16 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
The easy way to avoid problems are BINPKGs. Use it and a downgrade in
case of problems only takes seconds.
Install demerge too and you can roll back to pre-breakage very easily.
--
Neil Bothwick
Old hitchhikers never die-they
To say that a person only needs to hear one sound at a time is like
telling
someone to close one eye.
Hey man, you're display's only 2D. What do you need that second eye for
anyway?
Regards,
daid
I say that because I have a bad eye. I wish I could see good with both
because things
hmmm. I've managed to focus the problem: Some programs try to access
to sound device called hw:0,0 and there for do not allow it to be
shared. MPD was one of them, and when I changed the setting in
mpd.conf to using default it works. The flash player, though, still
tries to access the hardware
2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems:
(1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs;
(2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag.
I kindly disagree.
~[arch] is testing for Gentoo ebuild. It's considered stable upstream.
This was an upstream bug, not a Gentoo bug.
Yes,
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 14:31:16 +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
The easy way to avoid problems are BINPKGs. Use it and a downgrade in
case of problems only takes seconds.
Install demerge too and you can roll back to pre-breakage very easily.
On 5/12/2009, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote:
Anyway, don't do testing on the machine you use for everyday computing.
If you want to get into testing, use a dedicated machine for it.
I've been using a separate partition on an existing machine to run a
~amd64 system for evaluation, and
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 00:36:36 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de
wrote:
On 12/03/2009 11:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:
Hi,
On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card
(xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one
application can access the sound card at a
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 04:44:50 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de
wrote:
On 12/04/2009 03:12 AM, walt wrote:
Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use
the sound card at the same time.
I was under the impression that it's quite the opposite. For example I
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:47:18 +0200, App Des app4...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 00:36 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 12/03/2009 11:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:
Hi,
On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card
(xSTAC92HD71B3, according to
On Sat, 5 Dec 2009 17:51:35 +0200, Yoav Luft yoav.l...@gmail.com wrote:
hmmm. I've managed to focus the problem: Some programs try to access
to sound device called hw:0,0 and there for do not allow it to be
shared. MPD was one of them, and when I changed the setting in
mpd.conf to using
You didn't mention whether you tried running the alsasound service in
order to get dmix. If enabled, it doesn't matter what sound device the
apps want to open.
On 12/05/2009 05:51 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:
hmmm. I've managed to focus the problem: Some programs try to access
to sound device called
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:12:01 -0600, Dale wrote:
That works too and I do use it sometimes. It is a must when in a plain
console tho. Of course some would argue for | more too. ;-)
less is more, most is better :)
--
Neil Bothwick
Mac screen message: Like, dude, something went wrong.
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:10:15 -0600, Dale wrote:
Good catch Volker. I didn't notice that part. He needs to become very
familiar with the -1 option but even that is not good in every case.
If it is a package that needs to be in world, then that option
shouldn't be used either otherwise a
091205 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of
'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which
have changed, run 'emerge -Dup world' to see what order of emerging
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 06:36:25PM -0500, dhk wrote
I started hald and rebuilt the drivers: startx still fails.
I've hard-masked hal and dbus (and pam) in /etc/portage/package.mask
and X runs OK.
From your messages, I assume you've got some ATI card. What exactly
is it? As root, can you
alsasound is on boot runlevel, so it's running. Still, some apps, like
flash movies in firefox, don't behave nicely.
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
You didn't mention whether you tried running the alsasound service in order
to get dmix. If enabled, it
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
091205 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Samstag 05 Dezember 2009, Philip Webb wrote:
Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of
'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs
which have changed,
Hi,
after yesterday's update kde won't work anymore. After login I get a
message, that plasma-desktop got an segfault.
I tried to move the .kde folders somewhere else to start from a clean
configuration, but it won't help. Starting kde as root (startx -
startkde) works somehow. I'm little out
Has anyone gotten adobe air working? I've got an .air file
(PandoraOne app) and I've installed adobe air from the ikelos overlay,
but I can't figure out how to run the app.
- Grant
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:26:32 +0100
Johannes Kimmel johannes.kim...@gmx.de wrote:
There's a discussion on the forum about this issue currently at
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=6085003
Reports that downgrading hal to 0.5.13-r2 fixes the issue (it did
for me).
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G'day,
I'm looking for a disassembler so that I can see the underlying
assembly code in a variety of files, for example elf executables, DOS
executables, binary files (such as the master boot record (MBR)), etc.
Portage doesn't seem to include any, leastways eix hasn't revealed any
to me.
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 08:10:15 -0600, Dale wrote:
Good catch Volker. I didn't notice that part. He needs to become very
familiar with the -1 option but even that is not good in every case.
If it is a package that needs to be in world, then that option
shouldn't be used
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 19:33 -0500, David Relson wrote:
I'm looking for a disassembler so that I can see the underlying
assembly code in a variety of files, for example elf executables, DOS
executables, binary files (such as the master boot record (MBR)), etc.
[snip]
What do you all recommend
On 12/05/2009 01:36 PM, Yoav Luft wrote:
alsasound is on boot runlevel, so it's running. Still, some apps, like
flash movies in firefox, don't behave nicely.
Can you give us a URL for a flash movie so I can test?
I have a project which requires normalizing names, and by that, I mean
converting to lower case etc, whatever eliminates redundancies. I
know Unicode has a different normalize meaning, but for my purposes,
that has already been done. Maybe I should call it standardization or
make up a new
I'm not 100% sure but I think eix-test-obsolete will find things like this.
It will also scan the /etc/portage/package.* files and a few other things
as well.
Be forewarned, the output can be pretty . . . . large. lol It mostly
depends on how out of date things are. Mine is usually huge.
On 12/4/2009 10:21 PM, Dale wrote:
Thanks goodness for Konsole and being able to scroll up.
Where I come from, we use | less :p
Meh, just into /tmp and use anything you want to view it if you
really want to be hardcore.
Less is really crappy for emerges at console-login. It requires you
091205 Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
He's updating, so packages that need to be in world are already there.
If he is using the command he typed in, his world file is going to be huge.
He is doing the updates individually without a -u or a -1 or anything else.
That means every time he
@Yoav Luft, I don't know if this is the same problem, maybe it doesn't
relate at all. You should start by checking that there's no pulseaudio or
something like that monopolizing the alsa output, because maybe the problem
is not alsa itself. But, if alsa is running alone, I'd start by checking
alsasound is on boot runlevel, so it's running. Still, some apps, like
flash movies in firefox, don't behave nicely.
Can you give us a URL for a flash movie so I can test?
Since I'm having trouble too, here is a youtube video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoAbMfg9_Uk
Maybe you'll like
Hi,
On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 08:26, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:
Has anyone gotten adobe air working? I've got an .air file
(PandoraOne app) and I've installed adobe air from the ikelos overlay,
but I can't figure out how to run the app.
I installed the Adobe AIR SDK downloaded directly
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 10:58:59AM +0900, daid kahl wrote:
I'm curious about your handling of Japanese, just because I'm living
outside Tokyo these days. My grasp on Japanese is basically rubbish,
but I can at least claim to know a thing or two.
Our handling is simple -- we don't yet. I
Our handling is simple -- we don't yet. I don't know how to handle
things like that, or the previous example of Copenhagen in different
languages. Look at Naples -- that's not what Italins call it. Venice
is really bad -- no idea how English got it so mangled. Speaking of
Japanese, their
such as (I am guessing now) saw-umm-bee-yaw-koo. To write Tokyo in
the proper furigana is probably something like toh-o-kee-yoh-o.
Oh, I should mention that this is in writing correct. But the yo is a
subscript, so it's also a modifier, so the ki part isn't pronounced,
it's modified into a
On Sat, 05 Dec 2009 18:29:50 -0700
Brandon Vargo wrote:
On Sat, 2009-12-05 at 19:33 -0500, David Relson wrote:
I'm looking for a disassembler so that I can see the underlying
assembly code in a variety of files, for example elf executables,
DOS executables, binary files (such as the master
I could take a whole day typing in exactly what I do,
but I assumed the otherwise intelligent subscribers to the list
would realise that I add '-1' to those pkgs which are not in 'world'.
My 'world' file contains 112 entries, incl 28 'sys' + 35 'kde'.
Really, does something like that
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:45:43AM +0900, daid kahl wrote:
Well, I don't think n is really a syllable. It's a sound, and it's
the only part of the syllabary in Japanese that doesn't have a vowel.
I'm not really convinced this is a syllable in reality.
It's certainly a syllable in their
On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 9:16 PM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/4/2009 10:21 PM, Dale wrote:
Thanks goodness for Konsole and being able to scroll up.
Where I come from, we use | less :p
Meh, just into /tmp and use anything you want to view it if you
really want to be hardcore.
Isn't the memory hole above 3GB present even in the 64bit systems?
Something about the MMIO reservations for the PCI bus taking up the
top gig of the first four Gigs?
--
Drew
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
--Marie Curie
On Saturday 05 December 2009 21:09:50 Philip Webb wrote:
Please read what I said hopefully think briefly before responding.
If the pkg is already in 'world', it's 'emerge pkg';
if not -- the more frequent case -- , it's 'emerge -1 pkg'.
That keeps everything in order (yes, you have to watch
On Saturday 05 December 2009 22:14:48 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
And world is important. world is the difference between 'installed
manually' and 'just a dependency'. What you are doing fucks this up.
Result: portage can not figure which package was installed because you
want it and which
You *might* want to look into OSS4 if your card is supported by it :P
It will require a rebuild of many packages though (oss -alsa in
make.conf) and it requires using non-portage packages from an overlay
and rebuilding your kernel with sound support completely disabled.
For what it's worth,
Am Sonntag 06 Dezember 2009 01:27:49 schrieb Kenneth Prugh:
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009 00:26:32 +0100
Johannes Kimmel johannes.kim...@gmx.de wrote:
There's a discussion on the forum about this issue currently at
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?p=6085003
Reports that downgrading hal to
daid kahl wrote:
I'm not 100% sure but I think eix-test-obsolete will find things like this.
It will also scan the /etc/portage/package.* files and a few other things
as well.
Be forewarned, the output can be pretty . . . . large. lol It mostly
depends on how out of date things are. Mine is
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