Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-02 7:23 GMT+03:00 gevisz : > 2016-09-01 11:55 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger : >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:44:19AM +0300, gevisz wrote: >> >>> > Some people do a full systems check (i.e. badblocks) before entrusting a >>> > drive with anything important.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 11:55 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger : > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:44:19AM +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > Some people do a full systems check (i.e. badblocks) before entrusting a >> > drive with anything important. >> >> It is a good advice! I have already thought of this but

[gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread »Q«
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:56:31 +0100 Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:08:19 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Removal of a 4.6 series ebuild also means there would follow no > > updates > > Are there any updates to the 4.6 series or was is 4.7 considered its >

[gentoo-user] Re: Can't create valid btrfs on NVMe

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 18 Aug 2016 14:47:07 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:38:03 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > This is almost certainly a bug in btrfs-progs, or maybe the btrfs > > filesystem driver in the kernel. > > The latter, a later kernel appears to have

[gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:56:31 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > > - so my next upgrade would "force" me into deciding going way down > > (probably a bad idea) or up into unknown territory (and this showed: > > can also be a problem). Or I can stay with 4.6 until depclean > >

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Fri, 2 Sep 2016 01:53:31 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon : > On 01/09/2016 10:49, gevisz wrote: > > 2016-09-01 10:30 GMT+03:00 Matthias Hanft : > >> gevisz wrote: > [...] > >> > >> If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to > >> repair

[gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:02:17 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:50:17 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > [...] > > > > > > That's not true. Whoever owns the files and directories will be > > > able to access then, even if root mounted the stick, just like a >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 10:49, gevisz wrote: 2016-09-01 10:30 GMT+03:00 Matthias Hanft : gevisz wrote: But what are disadvantages of not partitioning a big hard drive into smaller logical ones? If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to repair it), *all* of your data is

[gentoo-user] Re: guvcview update produces an executable with missing lib...

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 03:55:32 +0200 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: > Daniel Frey [16-08-30 03:48]: > > On 08/29/2016 11:11 AM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 06:29:50PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de > > > wrote > [...] > [...] > [...] > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 02/09/2016 00:56, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Wed, 31 Aug 2016 02:32:24 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon : On 31/08/2016 02:08, Grant wrote: [...] [...] You can't control ownership and permissions of existing files with mount options on a Linux filesystem. See man mount.

[gentoo-user] Re: guvcview update produces an executable with missing lib...

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Mon, 29 Aug 2016 12:05:51 -0700 schrieb Daniel Frey : > On 08/29/2016 11:11 AM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 06:29:50PM +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de > > wrote > >> Hi, > >> > >> after updateing my system, beside others guvcview was updated: > >> >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Kai Krakow wrote: > Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:59:02 -0400 > schrieb Rich Freeman : > >> >> That depends on the mode of operation. In journal=data I believe >> everything gets written twice, which should make it fairly immune to

[gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Wed, 31 Aug 2016 02:32:24 +0200 schrieb Alan McKinnon : > On 31/08/2016 02:08, Grant wrote: > [...] > [...] > >> > >> You can't control ownership and permissions of existing files with > >> mount options on a Linux filesystem. See man mount. > > > > > > So in

[gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:59:02 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman : > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann > wrote: > > > > the journal does not add any data integrity benefits at all. It just > > makes it more likely that the fs is in a sane

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:50:17 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > ext2 will work, but you'll have to mount it or chmod -R 0777, or > > > only root will be able to access it. > > > > That's not true. Whoever owns the files and directories will be able > > to access then, even if root mounted the

[gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 22:27:46 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann : > Am 30.08.2016 um 21:14 schrieb J. Roeleveld: > > On August 30, 2016 8:58:17 PM GMT+02:00, Volker Armin Hemmann > > wrote: > >> Am 30.08.2016 um 20:12 schrieb Alan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 23:06:56 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > If you want to use it as a backup, and it's external (which it should > be), by all means: partition it. It acts as a protection layer against > silly OSes that may simply wipe data at the beginning (maybe by > accident) because there is no

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:08:19 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > No one forced you to do anything. You 4.6 kernel was still in boot, > > your 4.6 sources were still installed. The ebuild was only removed > > fro the portage tree, nothing was uninstalled from your system unless > > you did it. Even the

[gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:38:26 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 06:46:54 +0100, Mick wrote: > > > > So I'm done with NTFS forever. Will ext2 somehow allow me to use > > > the USB stick across Gentoo systems without permission/ownership > > > problems? > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:04:22 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > LVM is neither encrypted nor compressed. The filesystems on it are no > > different to the filesystems on physical partitions, and subject to > > the same risks. An LVM logical volume is just a block device that is > > treated the same as a

[gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Mon, 29 Aug 2016 17:51:19 -0700 schrieb Grant : > > # mount -o loop,ro -t ntfs usb.img /mnt/usbstick > > NTFS signature is missing. > > Failed to mount '/dev/loop0': Invalid argument > > The device '/dev/loop0' doesn't seem to have a valid NTFS. > > Maybe the wrong device

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:09:09 +0300 schrieb gevisz : > 2016-09-01 11:54 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:49:43 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > > [...] > >> > >> That is exactly what I am afraid of! > >> > >> So, the 20-years old rule of thumb

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:03:17 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:18:29 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > > > it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. > > > And a few more to mkfs it. > > > > Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt > > that it will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 22:08, Kai Krakow wrote: Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:47:22 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:34:55 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: Surprise surprise, 4.7 has this (still not fully fixed) oom-killer bug. When I'm running virtual machines, it still

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:04:53 +0300 schrieb gevisz : > I have bought an external 5TB Western Digital hard drive > that I am going to use mainly for backing up some files > in my home directory and carrying a very big files, for > example a virtual machine image file, from one

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Thu, 1 Sep 2016 22:56:06 +0300 schrieb gevisz : > > Backups are annoying. > > Yes. :) No, try borgbackup with a cronjob. > > I don't do them as well as ideally I should > > Who does? :) I do. > Well, probably, one who just lost a lot of data because of not doing >

[gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Sun, 21 Aug 2016 05:55:06 -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman : > On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Peter Humphrey > wrote: > > > > After this morning's sync, both versions 4.4.6 and 4.6.4 of > > gentoo-sources have disappeared. Is this just finger trouble in

[gentoo-user] Re: What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-09-01 Thread Kai Krakow
Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:47:22 +0100 schrieb Neil Bothwick : > On Tue, 30 Aug 2016 08:34:55 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > > Surprise surprise, 4.7 has this (still not fully fixed) oom-killer > > bug. When I'm running virtual machines, it still kicks in. I wanted > > to stay on

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 22:12 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman : > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, gevisz wrote: >> 2016-09-01 14:55 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman : >> >>> 2. Set it up as an LVM partition. Unless you're using filesystems >>> like zfs/btrfs that have their

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 15:51 GMT+03:00 Michael Mol : > > On Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:09:09 PM gevisz wrote: >> 2016-09-01 11:54 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : >> > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:49:43 +0300, gevisz wrote: >> >> > If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 14:55 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman : > >> 2. Set it up as an LVM partition. Unless you're using filesystems >> like zfs/btrfs that have their own way of doing volume management, >> this just makes things

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 15:21 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:09:09 +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > Have you considered LVM? You get the benefits of separate filesystems >> > without the limitations of inflexible partitioning. >> >> I am afraid of LVM because of the same

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 14:55 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman : > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:04 AM, gevisz wrote: >> >> Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive >> into smaller logical ones and why? >> > > Assuming this is only used on Linux machines (you mentioned moving >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > a common misconception. But not true at all. Google a bit. Feel free to enlighten us. My understanding is that data=journal means that all data gets written first to the journal. Completed writes will

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am 31.08.2016 um 16:33 schrieb Michael Mol: > > In data=journal mode, the contents of files pass through the journal as well, > ensuring that, at least as far as the filesystem's responsibility is > concerned, > the data will be intact in the event of a crash. a common misconception. But not

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:27:39 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > Honestly, I tend not to create separate partitions for separate mount >> > points these days. At least, not on personal systems. For servers, >> > it's can be

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:27:39 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > Honestly, I tend not to create separate partitions for separate mount > > points these days. At least, not on personal systems. For servers, > > it's can be beneficial to have /var separate from /, or /var/log > > separate from /var, or

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > The sad truth is that many (most?) users don't understand the idea of > unmounting. Even Microsoft largely gave up, having flash drives "optimized for > data safety" as opposed to "optimized for speed". While it'd be nice

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Thursday, September 01, 2016 04:21:18 PM J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Thursday, September 01, 2016 08:41:39 AM Michael Mol wrote: > > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:45:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: > > > >> Which NTFS system are you using? > > > >> > > > >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Thursday, September 01, 2016 09:35:15 AM Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > The defaults for vm.dirty_bytes and vm.dirty_background_bytes are, IMO, > > badly broken and an insidious source of problems for both regular Linux > > users

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Stroller
> On 31 Aug 2016, at 16:25, Grant wrote: > >> Yes, FAT. It works and works well. >> Or exFAT which is Microsoft's solution to the problem of very large >> files on FAT. > > FAT32 won't work for me since I need to use files larger than 4GB. I > know it's beta software but

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread J. Roeleveld
On Thursday, September 01, 2016 08:41:39 AM Michael Mol wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:45:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: > > >> Which NTFS system are you using? > > >> > > >> ntfs kernel module? It's quite dodgy and unsafe with writes > > >> ntfs-ng on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > The defaults for vm.dirty_bytes and vm.dirty_background_bytes are, IMO, badly > broken and an insidious source of problems for both regular Linux users and > system administrators. > It depends on whether you tend to yank

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > Honestly, I tend not to create separate partitions for separate mount points > these days. At least, not on personal systems. For servers, it's can be > beneficial to have /var separate from /, or /var/log separate from

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @system

2016-09-01 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 30 August 2016 22:51:47 Mick wrote: > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 15:30:51 Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 13:38:13 J. Roeleveld wrote: > > > On Tuesday, August 30, 2016 11:56:50 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > On Tuesday 30 Aug 2016 12:06:43 Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Thursday, September 01, 2016 12:09:09 PM gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 11:54 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : > > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:49:43 +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to > >> > repair it), *all* of your data is lost (instead

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Michael Mol
On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 11:45:15 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: > >> Which NTFS system are you using? > >> > >> ntfs kernel module? It's quite dodgy and unsafe with writes > >> ntfs-ng on fuse? I find that one quite solid > > > > I'm using ntfs-ng as opposed to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Dale
gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon : >> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: >>> I have bought an external 5TB Western Digital hard drive >>> that I am going to use mainly for backing up some files >>> in my home directory and carrying a very big files,

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 12:09:09 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > Have you considered LVM? You get the benefits of separate filesystems > > without the limitations of inflexible partitioning. > > I am afraid of LVM because of the same reason as described below: > > returning to the "old good times" of MS

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:04 AM, gevisz wrote: > > Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive > into smaller logical ones and why? > Assuming this is only used on Linux machines (you mentioned moving files around), here is what I would do: 1. Definitely create a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 12:01 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon : > On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: >> 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon : >>> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: > > [snip] > Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive into

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 10:44, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 10:23 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger : >> On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: >> >>> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >>> And a few more to mkfs it. >>> >>> Are you sure you aren't thinking of mkfs

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 10:59, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 11:03 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : >> On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:18:29 +0300, gevisz wrote: >> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. And a few more to mkfs it. >>> >>> Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 12:04 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:59:55 +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > You said you wanted to use this drive for backups, >> > surely doing it right is more important than doing >> > it quickly. It's not like you have to hold its hand >> > while

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 11:54 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:49:43 +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to >> > repair it), *all* of your data is lost (instead of just >> > one partition). That's the only disadvantage I can

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 11:55 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger : > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:44:19AM +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > Some people do a full systems check (i.e. badblocks) before entrusting a >> > drive with anything important. >> >> It is a good advice! I have already thought of this but

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:59:55 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > You said you wanted to use this drive for backups, > > surely doing it right is more important than doing > > it quickly. It's not like you have to hold its hand > > while mkfs is running. > > But I would have to keep my fingers crossed so

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 09:18, gevisz wrote: > 2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon : >> On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: [snip] >> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >> And a few more to mkfs it. > > Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt > that it

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 11:03 GMT+03:00 Neil Bothwick : > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:18:29 +0300, gevisz wrote: > >> > it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >> > And a few more to mkfs it. >> >> Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt >> that it will take seconds to create a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 11:44:19AM +0300, gevisz wrote: > > Some people do a full systems check (i.e. badblocks) before entrusting a > > drive with anything important. > > It is a good advice! I have already thought of this but I am sorry to > acknowledge that, since the "old good times" of MS

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 11:49:43 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to > > repair it), *all* of your data is lost (instead of just > > one partition). That's the only disadvantage I can think > > of. > > That is exactly what I am afraid of! > > So, the

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 10:30 GMT+03:00 Matthias Hanft : > gevisz wrote: >> >> But what are disadvantages of not partitioning a big >> hard drive into smaller logical ones? > > If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to > repair it), *all* of your data is lost (instead of just >

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 10:23 GMT+03:00 Frank Steinmetzger : > On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. >> And a few more to mkfs it. >> >> Are you sure you aren't thinking of mkfs with ext2 (which did take hours >> for a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 10:18:29 +0300, gevisz wrote: > > it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. > > And a few more to mkfs it. > > Just to partition - may be, but I very much doubt > that it will take seconds to create a full-fledged > ext4 file system on these 5TB via USB2 connention.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Matthias Hanft
gevisz wrote: > > But what are disadvantages of not partitioning a big > hard drive into smaller logical ones? If your filesystem becomes corrupt (and you are unable to repair it), *all* of your data is lost (instead of just one partition). That's the only disadvantage I can think of. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
On Thu, Sep 01, 2016 at 08:13:23AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > it will take about 5 seconds to partition it. > And a few more to mkfs it. > > Are you sure you aren't thinking of mkfs with ext2 (which did take hours > for a drive that size? Some people do a full systems check (i.e. badblocks)

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
2016-09-01 9:13 GMT+03:00 Alan McKinnon : > On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: >> I have bought an external 5TB Western Digital hard drive >> that I am going to use mainly for backing up some files >> in my home directory and carrying a very big files, for >> example a

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 08:04, gevisz wrote: > I have bought an external 5TB Western Digital hard drive > that I am going to use mainly for backing up some files > in my home directory and carrying a very big files, for > example a virtual machine image file, from one computer > to another. This hard drive

[gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread gevisz
I have bought an external 5TB Western Digital hard drive that I am going to use mainly for backing up some files in my home directory and carrying a very big files, for example a virtual machine image file, from one computer to another. This hard drive is preformatted with NTFS. Now, I am going to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 01/09/2016 05:42, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On August 31, 2016 11:45:15 PM GMT+02:00, Alan McKinnon > wrote: >> On 31/08/2016 17:25, Grant wrote: > Is there a > filesystem that will make that unnecessary and exhibit better > reliability than NTFS?