Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Dale <rdalek1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Actually, he is correct. >> Actually, he isn't, which is hard to demonstrate since everybody

Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 3:22 PM, Christopher Robinson wrote: > Thanks again for your response. After compiling I get the prompt: live cd # ~ > I do not know what command to use to boot the install. I looked through the > manual > but I did not see an answer for

Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Christopher Robinson wrote: > > Thank you for at least responding to my question. I did try creating a > password in root, > but I could not boot from there. If it isn't booting then passwords are the least of your problems. It

Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 11:35 AM, Dale wrote: > > Actually, he is correct. Actually, he isn't, which is hard to demonstrate since everybody is top-posting. > > On Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:47 AM, Neil Bothwick > wrote: > > You need to read chapter

Re: [gentoo-user] New Install

2016-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:13 AM, Christopher Robinson wrote: > After the files compile on the Minimal Install CD, I get a command line > prompt. > I assume I need to enter a username and then a password to boot the install, > but I have not succeeded in creating

Re: [gentoo-user] Infrastructure?

2016-09-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 5:16 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > Probably should clarify that I wasn't talking about patches. I just > remember the big git migration and was wondering if the syncing process > itself would be moved under anongit.gentoo.org at some point so that we >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

2016-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Philip Webb wrote: > 160918 Kai Krakow wrote: >> Try ... adding vim and other packages to the list: >> # emerge -1Dpuv perl >> # emerge -1Dpuv perl vim ... > > I got around the problem by using : > > emerge --backtrack=30 -pvtD perl I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Emerge interferes with Git (Was: Wlan disappeared after suspend)

2016-09-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > On Saturday, 17. Sep 2016, 10:31:17 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote: > > Am Tue, 13 Sep 2016 19:49:04 +0200 > > schrieb Bertram Scharpf : > > > > > The rfkill make suite looks for a version

Re: [gentoo-user] ext4 root-partition mounted read-only as "type none"

2016-09-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Holger Wünsche wrote: > > I think the problem might be fstab or the point, where the initramfs gives > controll to the kernel. The initramfs doesn't ever really give control to the kernel (well, at least not any more than any process

Re: [gentoo-user] ext4 root-partition mounted read-only as "type none"

2016-09-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Holger Wünsche wrote: > I installed gentoo bun ran into some problems: > - the root-partition is read-only but shown as read-write when directly > booting into gentoo, > - the type of the root-partition is "none", > - when only

Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge interferes with Git (Was: Wlan disappeared after suspend)

2016-09-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:12 AM, Bertram Scharpf wrote: > > The rfkill install interferes with Git! > > Error log: > P: /usr/portage/.git/index.lock > A: /usr/portage/.git/index.lock > R: /usr/portage/.git/index.lock > C: git update-index --refresh --unmerged >

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 2:25 PM, gevisz wrote: > > What you have just said implies that I had not had a problem > booting the system after adding a new drive had I used initramfs > correctly. Well, I do agree that, after loading the initramfs, the system > may find the kernel to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help! IP blocking not working

2016-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 12:39 PM, Grant wrote: > > I said I was under attack but it was really just an unthrottled and > very greedy bot. fail2ban would have gotten him. But while we're on > the subject, how would you recommend thwarting a DDoS attack against a > dedicated

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help! IP blocking not working

2016-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Grant wrote: Hi, my site is being ravaged by an IP but dropping the IP via shorewall is seeming to have no effect. I'm using his IP from nginx logs. IP blocking in shorewall has always worked before. What could be

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 7:57 AM, gevisz <gev...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2016-09-07 12:36 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org>: >> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org> wrote: >>> >>> grub-mkconfig is not finding an initramf

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 11:36 PM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > > grub-mkconfig is not finding an initramfs, as evidenced by the lack of > an "initrd" in in grub.cfg. > > If it is unable to find an initramfs, it will always output > root=/dev/sdX instead of root=UUID=... > For

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:57 PM, gevisz wrote: > > It seems that now I should edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg directly > without even knowing its commands. > Well, if nothing else you can certainly read it and see what it is putting in there. If you page down you'll hit the actual

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 06/09/2016 21:39, gevisz wrote: >> >> 2016-09-06 22:08 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org>: >>> >>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:01 PM, gevisz <gev...@gmail.

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel does not boot after adding a new SATA drive

2016-09-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 3:01 PM, gevisz wrote: > > I have already looked into this file but did not find where to set the > UUID of the root partion. > It depends. :) Usually you end up with root=UUID=abc on your kernel command line. It looks like grub-mkconfig is supposed to

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 6:59 AM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:54:40 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > Bind mounts? I thought you would use btrfs subvolumes! >> > >> >> Often the bind mounts point to btrfs subvolumes.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 6:35 PM, Kai Krakow <hurikha...@gmail.com> wrote: > Am Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:59:02 -0400 > schrieb Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org>: > >> >> That depends on the mode of operation. In journal=data I believe >> everything gets written tw

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:58 PM, gevisz <gev...@gmail.com> wrote: > 2016-09-01 14:55 GMT+03:00 Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org>: > >> 2. Set it up as an LVM partition. Unless you're using filesystems >> like zfs/btrfs that have their own way of doing volume managem

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:09 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > a common misconception. But not true at all. Google a bit. Feel free to enlighten us. My understanding is that data=journal means that all data gets written first to the journal. Completed writes will

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 1:42 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 09:27:39 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > >> > Honestly, I tend not to create separate partitions for separate mount >> > points these days. At least, not on personal syste

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > The sad truth is that many (most?) users don't understand the idea of > unmounting. Even Microsoft largely gave up, having flash drives "optimized for > data safety" as opposed to "optimized for speed". While it'd be nice

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:41 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > The defaults for vm.dirty_bytes and vm.dirty_background_bytes are, IMO, badly > broken and an insidious source of problems for both regular Linux users and > system administrators. > It depends on whether you tend to yank

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 8:51 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > Honestly, I tend not to create separate partitions for separate mount points > these days. At least, not on personal systems. For servers, it's can be > beneficial to have /var separate from /, or /var/log separate from

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive?

2016-09-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 1, 2016 at 2:04 AM, gevisz wrote: > > Is it still advisable to partition a big hard drive > into smaller logical ones and why? > Assuming this is only used on Linux machines (you mentioned moving files around), here is what I would do: 1. Definitely create a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:12:15 AM Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >> Am 30.08.2016 um 23:59 schrieb Rich Freeman: >> > >> > That depends on the mode of operation. In journal=data I bel

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Alarig Le Lay wrote: > On Wed Aug 31 08:47:11 2016, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> Have you considered using cloud storage for the files instead? That also >> gives you the option of version control with some services. > > Seriously, why cloud? The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > the journal does not add any data integrity benefits at all. It just > makes it more likely that the fs is in a sane state if there is a crash. > Likely. Not a guarantee. Your data? No one cares. > That

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:42 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > > There's nothing in Gentoo that guarantees everybody has ext2 support > in their kernels. That said, I agree that ext2 (or perhaps ext3 with > journalling disabled -- I've always been a bit fuzzy on whether

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Grant wrote: >> >> ext2 is on every system, exfat not. ext2 is very stable, tested and well >> aged. exfat is some fuse something crap. New, hardly tested and unstable >> as it gets. >> > > If I use ext2 on the USB stick, can I mount and use

Re: [gentoo-user] USB crucial file recovery

2016-08-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 1:35 AM, Azamat Hackimov wrote: > > I would recommend to use F2FS filesystem, since you have only Linux systems. > As a user of immature filesystems, I would not recommend F2FS unless you want to be a user of immature filesystems. Remember how

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot -> efibootmgr

2016-08-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 2:12 AM, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > On Monday, August 22, 2016 02:59:55 PM Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Håkon Alstadheim >> >> <ha...@alstadheim.priv.no> wrote: >> > Booting straight

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot -> efibootmgr

2016-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > I've no idea how tightly bootctl (as gummibot is now called after its > assimilation in the the systemd collective) is bound to systemd. It may > well be feasible to create an ebuild that builds bootctl from the systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Gummiboot -> efibootmgr

2016-08-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > Booting straight into linux on an EFI system without a boot-loader means > you have no way to provide command-line or initramfs as far as I can > tell, all modules must be compiled in, and default command-line

Re: [gentoo-user] What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Sunday 21 Aug 2016 07:28:17 Rich Freeman wrote: > >> ... there is nothing wrong with having some internal QA on kernel >> releases. 4.1 had a nasty memory leak a release or two ago that

Re: [gentoo-user] What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 6:20 AM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > On Sunday 21 Aug 2016 05:55:06 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> > wrote: >> > After this morning's sync, both versio

Re: [gentoo-user] What's happened to gentoo-sources?

2016-08-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 5:12 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > After this morning's sync, both versions 4.4.6 and 4.6.4 of gentoo-sources > have disappeared. Is this just finger trouble in the server chain? I get the > same with UK and US sync servers. > No idea, but upstream

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about genkernel's default kernel config

2016-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 6:41 PM, Raymond Jennings <shent...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 1:32 AM, Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> wrote: >> >> And since it uses udev it is fairly robust against things like adding >> a drive and now the kernel r

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't create valid btrfs on NVMe

2016-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > 4.1.30 - then I realised that sysrescd defaults to an older kernel (my > rescue version in /boot always boots to the alt kernel). I tried the alt > kernel, which is 4.4.17, and it worked! > Hmm, that longterm is

Re: [gentoo-user] Can't create valid btrfs on NVMe

2016-08-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 8:57 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Wednesday, August 17, 2016 11:26:13 PM Neil Bothwick wrote: >> I'm putting together a new desktop using a Samsung SM951 NVMe drive. I >> booted sysrescd, partitioned the drive and ran >> >> mkfs.btrfs /dev/nvme0n1p3 >>

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Tuesday 16 Aug 2016 16:58:20 hw wrote: > >> The messages are cryptic, and you have to guess what they are trying to >> tell you. > > *Guess?* Good God, man. You don't guess - you use your experience and your >

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 11:02 AM, Michael Mol wrote: > > My workstation updates on a cron job every day at 6PM. I check my email in the > morning to see if it ran into any trouble, correct whatever it complained > about, and let it try again the next evening. > I think you're

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 8:13 AM, hw wrote: > > Every three months is not infrequently. > >... > > Seriously, update every day? > As Neil has mentioned, there seems to be a mismatch in expectations. Every day updates are probably fairly typical for Gentoo users. I don't update all

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:23 AM, hw wrote: > Neil Bothwick schrieb: >> >> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 16:08:34 +0200, hw wrote: >> >>> infrequently update Gentoo because I´m *always* running into problems >>> like this. >> >> Every time, or is that just hyperbole? > > every time Keep in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about genkernel's default kernel config

2016-08-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 5:06 AM, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > On Monday, August 15, 2016 04:32:29 AM Rich Freeman wrote: >> >> It is also somewhat dependent on a correct fstab. Don't take that for >> granted: the kernel doesn't look at fstab at all when mo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Question about genkernel's default kernel config

2016-08-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 4:10 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > The ones created by genkernel or dracut always need a few iterations before > they work semi-reliably and are not flexible enough. > I have 2 disks in my laptop. Both are encrypted using LUKS and the same > passphrase.

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 10:08 AM, hw wrote: > > I infrequently update Gentoo because I´m *always* running into problems > like this. 'Infrequently' means about every 3 months at home, and not > since, IIRC, 2015-02 here at work. The last update at home got stalled > because perl

Re: [gentoo-user] EAPI packages

2016-08-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Aug 10, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 08/10/2016 06:54 AM, hw wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I´m trying to upgrade portage because I´m getting a message that it >> needs to be able to work with EAPI 6 packages and can only do EAPI 5. >> >> I´m running into merge

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 29, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Mick wrote: > Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. I am > running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running > MySQL on a number of websites. Let's which one goes sideways

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 1:31 PM, J. Roeleveld <jo...@antarean.org> wrote: > On Monday, August 01, 2016 11:01:28 AM Rich Freeman wrote: >> Neither my employer nor the big software provider >> in question is likely to attract top-notch DB talent (indeed, mine has >> steadil

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 7:18 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > So the original article very much seems to have been written with a skewed > bias and wrong focus. That's bias as in "shifted to one side as used in > math" not bias as in "opinionated asshat beating some special

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 12:49 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On Monday, August 01, 2016 08:43:49 AM james wrote: > >> Sure this part is only related to >> transaction processing as there was much more to the "five 9s" legacy, >> but imho, that is the heart of what was the precursor

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-08-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Aug 1, 2016 at 3:16 AM, J. Roeleveld wrote: > > Check the link posted by Douglas. > Ubers article has some misunderstandings about the architecture with > conclusions drawn that are, at least also, caused by their database design and > usage. I've read it. I don't

Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL Vs MySQL @Uber

2016-07-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 30, 2016 at 6:24 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 29/07/2016 22:58, Mick wrote: >> >> Interesting article explaining why Uber are moving away from PostgreSQL. >> I am >> running both DBs on different desktop PCs for akonadi and I'm also running >> MySQL on a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Holy Quran in all languages Available

2016-07-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 10:45 PM, wabe wrote: > I think that we don't need any religious discussions here. > > Apart from that, top posting sucks. ;-) > Thank you for adding a healthy dose of irony with that juxtaposition... -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Delete /tmp content

2016-07-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 15, 2016 at 7:43 AM, Hogren wrote: > > After several strange problems, I discovered that my /tmp content was never > deleted. > > Is there a natif mechanism (with fstab or other option) and it's just a > misconfiguration or there isn't, and I need to use a systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] Gitlab experiences

2016-07-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 9:19 AM, Ralf wrote: > I recommend to deploy gitlab inside a Debian LXC/Docker container as > Gitlab guys provide and maintain precompiled .deb packages. You do not > want to compile it on your own as it comes with a load of

Re: [gentoo-user] Gitlab experiences

2016-07-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 8:44 AM, James wrote: > > Has anyone attempted to install a self hosted gitlab on gentoo server(s)? > A small gentoo cluster/container setup? Using a Distributed File System, > like cephfs, orangefs or other DFS? > I know the Gentoo Infra team

Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate USE flags

2016-07-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:31 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 5:10 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote: >> Hello list, >> >> Can anyone tell me why we have two USE flags for the same thing? Geoloc and >> geolocation both switch on geolocation but

Re: [gentoo-user] Call for opinions and/or use cases regarding games.eclass

2016-07-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Róbert Čerňanský wrote: > > I'm not sure what are all the features it provides. But I do like that > (at least) some games share scores between users (in /var/games). It is > "nice to have" feature. > > Also it is great advantage that emerge

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Me, and how to troll LIKE A BOSS.

2016-06-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:28 AM, »Q« wrote: > On Sun, 26 Jun 2016 00:46:38 +0200 > Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> On 26/06/2016 00:14, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > >> > Am Samstag, 25. Juni 2016, 16:31:22 schrieb Alan Grimes: >> >> Hello, Let me introduce

Re: [gentoo-user] booting - I don't anystand how the (Linux) world works anymore

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 3:51 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > [1] It's also one of the reasons persistent device naming came into > udev, to try guarantee the same device will always have the same name > This is also one of the reasons why an initramfs is useful. Linus

Re: [gentoo-user] booting - I don't anystand how the (Linux) world works anymore

2016-06-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 2:33 PM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > I don't understand the 'root=' option on the boot line like > kernel /boot/vmlinuz-4.7.0-rc4 root=/dev/sda1 > It is pretty simple. If you're not using an initramfs, the kernel attempts to find the device you list

Re: [gentoo-user] inittab changes sysvinit-2.88-r7 to sys-apps/sysvinit-2.88-r9

2016-06-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 4:17 AM, Luigi 'Comio' Mantellini wrote: > > you can find the answer here: > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=487384 > Ironically, the comment trace shows an unnecessary 2 year sleep in there. :) -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 4:01 AM, Mick wrote: > On Thursday 16 Jun 2016 21:25:01 J. García wrote: > > How does Nix compare to flatpack, docker, snap, et al. from a gentoo > perspective? > Nix is a similar sort of approach. I don't think they run apps in containers

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 3:16 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:35:24 -0400 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >> I don't follow this stuff, so this may be a stupid question... how >> does a "container" or "docker" differ from a chroot or a QEMU VM with a >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is supporting officially Snap packages?

2016-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I don't see the part where all these latest fancy container thingymagicies > are not really just "embed everything in everything" > > We've known for years the dangers of embedding stuff in packages (it hardly >

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Change from udev to eudev?

2016-06-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 3:06 AM, Marc Joliet wrote: > Perhaps somebody with more systemd expertise will now feel compelled to > respond ;-) . I think I've gotten burned out talking about the advantages of systemd on Gentoo lists. If anybody wants to chat about it feel free to

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd to manage (DNS) security?

2016-06-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:29 PM, James wrote: > > This is about the most scary idea I have every heard of in unix/linux, > in long time. > > I guess all of those conspiracy theories were correct:: > prepare to be assimilateD! > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 9:37 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I did take your suggestion and check for rc-service though. I shouldn't > count on openrc being in @system forever. > I suspect it would still work if openrc weren't installed: bash -c "/etc/init.d/cups-browsed status

Re: [gentoo-user] Safe systemd "reload" command

2016-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 6:48 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > I'm planning on adding USE=cron to mail-filter/spamassassin to perform > nightly updates. I have a script that works for OpenRC, > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/SpamAssassin#Daily_updates > > but I've commented where I

Re: [gentoo-user] backing up linux to azure storage

2016-05-01 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, May 1, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Sun, 01 May 2016 10:02:30 -0400, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > >> Hi. I want to backup linux to Microsoft azure storage and could only >> find duplicity to do this. However, the gentoo version is obsolete, so >> how

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CDEPEND

2016-04-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 10:54 PM, Sam Jorna wrote: > On Tue, Apr 26, 2016 at 02:41:23AM +, James wrote: >> Do you have a definition of exactly what a CDEPEND is? > > CDEPEND is a commonly used name for COMMON_DEPEND - dependencies shared > between > DEPEND and RDEPEND

Re: [gentoo-user] why emerge sucks nuts:

2016-04-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Alan Grimes wrote: > > Now I'm uninstalling packages like a madman hoping to clear through this... > You know that posting ACTUAL emerge output might be more useful if you want help, or if you think there is some improvement that could be

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: 回复:Re: [gentoo-user] About the kdbus with gentoo-sources 4.3.6, of the greate memory usage.

2016-03-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 26, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > because it is broken by design, a security nightmare and seriously not > needed at all? > While there is general interest in a better design, Linus believes it is in fact needed and intends to merge the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to find which version of $package supports $USE ?

2016-03-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 12:18 PM, Daniel Frey wrote: > > I have it built here using 7.1_p2, maybe there was a regression in the > new version? > You might want to upgrade: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576954 hpn is a large external patch so it isn't surprising that

Re: [gentoo-user] local shared directory

2016-03-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > umask is just not viable either, as a) it's global and affects all files > a user creates and b) by definition umask is modifiable by the user > (it's a feature to help users out so they don't need to chmod every

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] About the kdbus with gentoo-sources 4.3.6, of the greate memory usage.

2016-03-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Mar 11, 2016 at 10:08 AM, Nicol TAO wrote: > yes. it was not updated later any only support linux kernel 4.3 branch. > it seems kdbus can speed up communication, why not actively devel and > update? > It will come back in some different form. Linus supports the

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as kvm guest with virtio

2016-03-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:10 AM, hw wrote: > > livecd linux # grub2-install /dev/vda > Installing for i386-pc platform. > installation beendet. Keine Fehler aufgetreten. > > Do you think it claims to have worked but actually didn't? > You wouldn't be getting kernel errors if there

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo as kvm guest with virtio

2016-03-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 12:41 PM, hw wrote: > > I'm stuck with 'Could not find the root block device > in UUID= ...' when trying to boot the guest. > > Is grub2 unable to work with virtio devices? > Are you sure that is a grub2 message? It seems more likely that this is a message

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 8:05 AM, Håkon Alstadheim <ha...@alstadheim.priv.no> wrote: > On 03. mars 2016 12:26, Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:15 AM, Håkon Alstadheim >> <ha...@alstadheim.priv.no> wrote: >>> Would "revdep-rebuild.sh -i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 3, 2016 at 3:15 AM, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > Would "revdep-rebuild.sh -i -L "libssl\.so.*" -- -f" before emerging, be > sufficient ? I.e. that should obviate the need for compiling wget with > gnutls ? > No, and no. The problem is the ABI is silently

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 2:11 PM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > Excuse me, but I did not criticize anyone. I know. It was really meant to temper my remarks, since email is easy to misconstrue. It wasn't really directed at yo

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Choice of graphics card

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Not just the computing power, though: Gentoo support will be important over > the life of the system. If the life of this current box is any guide, that > could stretch to 10 years. Well, maybe. > So, I can't speak

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 11:06 AM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > >> They changed ABI without changing SONAME, which is an absolutely >> braid-dead thing for upstream to do, because it causes exactly this >> kind

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 02/03/2016 17:49, Rich Freeman wrote: >> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-7886940.html >> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=576128 >> >> They changed ABI without changi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: openssl upgrade may miss some needed rebuilds

2016-03-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Mar 2, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 02/03/16 16:41, walt wrote: >> >> Today's upgrade of openssl to 1.0.2g-r1 may cause some necessary >> rebuilds to fail due to missing symbol errors. >> >> Example: libcurl was broken and caused the rebuilds of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Solved: ABI_X86=

2016-02-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 16:59:27 + (UTC), James wrote: > >> Is there a provision (mechanism) to have this autoset, if a package >> dependency call for it? The system was fine for a quite a while until I >> forced it to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Also, it has been a while since I read anything - what is the current > state of BTRFS vs ZFS? Is it stable/mature enough to use for production? > What can ZFS do that it cannot? > This is obviously a topic people

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: using package.provided

2016-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:15 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > Yes, which is what I recommended. Don't block 4.1.x security/bugfix patches. > Just block 4.2 and above. > ++ 4.1 is a longterm series, so if your goal is minimum disruption you can stay on it until Sep 2017. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: beegfs goes opensource!

2016-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 2/26/2016 12:04 PM, James wrote: >> Excellent point about the license. Did the license stop zfs folks >> from enjoying zfs? I know the zfs license stops some commercial folks >> from

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 2:06 PM, Mick <michaelkintz...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday 24 Feb 2016 19:08:42 Rich Freeman wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger <war...@gmx.de> wrote: >> > Well my concern was more that SGX would

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Attic (cvs) -> ???(git)

2016-02-25 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 4:49 PM, James <wirel...@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > >> If I were doing anything too >> crazy with all this I'd probably use the python git module. > > dev-python/git-python ??? Any others or related docs/

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Any thoughts on Intel Skylake SGX?

2016-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Well my concern was more that SGX would provide leverage for even more > eavesdropping, rather than prohibit it. > Yeah, I'm one of those persons who tends to consider most fears of TPMs and UEFI overblown, but these

Re: [gentoo-user] Help installing skype

2016-02-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I agree with Ralf, a small VM with Windows or an Ubuntu/Mint/whatever > appliance solely for use with skype is probably a better use of your > time. It's a huge PITA to keep abi_x86_32 under control and not bloat,

Re: [gentoo-user] Attic (cvs) -> ???(git)

2016-02-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 2:49 PM, James wrote: > > So using wget to fetch {package/files} from the gentoo attic was/is a reliable > exercise to build things removed from the tree, into one's > /usr/local/portage tree. It still works, but I'm guessing there is a now a >

Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Allow work from home?

2016-02-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 5:55 AM, lee <l...@yagibdah.de> wrote: > Rich Freeman <ri...@gentoo.org> writes: > >> develop. (Before somebody points out LUKS, be aware that Bitlocker >> lets you do full-disk encyption that is secure without having to >> actuall

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