On Thursday 13 January 2011 01:40:09 Dale wrote:
You got a crystal ball or something?
Not yet, my supplier is still awaiting new stock from the manufacturer...
--
Joost
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:59:19 +, Peter Humphrey wrote:
There's nothing gratuitous about it.
It's perfectly suited for the purpose, in this particular case.
No it is not: there's no need for it. it adds nothing useful, and it
makes one wince. The sense would not have been changed by
On 2011-01-12, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:33:02 +, Stroller wrote:
No longer updated can mean broken, but it can also mean finished.
Boot to BTFS filesystems?
Finished != complete
Maybe not on the right hand side of the pond, but here in the US
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:42 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Grant
Edwards did opine thusly:
On 2011-01-12, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:33:02 +, Stroller wrote:
No longer updated can mean broken, but it can also mean finished.
Boot to BTFS
That makes perfect fucking sense.
On Jan 12, 2011 6:18 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:42 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Grant
Edwards did opine thusly:
On 2011-01-12, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:33:02
Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub cannot be complete as there are always new file systems and boot methods
that could be added.
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be added in as
new things come out.
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:32 -0600, Dale wrote:
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be added in as
new things come out. I still wonder where computers will be in say 10
or 20 years.
If you'd asked
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub cannot be complete as there are always new file systems and boot methods
that could be added.
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be added
On 2011-01-12, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards did opine thusly:
On 2011-01-12, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 21:33:02 +, Stroller wrote:
No longer updated can mean broken, but it can also mean finished.
Boot to BTFS
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:32 -0600, Dale wrote:
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be added in as
new things come out. I still wonder where computers will be in say 10
or 20
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Tue, 11 Jan 2011 16:46:43 -0600, Dale wrote:
What is there to do with it? It's a bootloader that boots and loads,
what more do you want?
No longer updated can mean broken, but it can also mean finished.
My point
On 2011-01-13, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:32 -0600, Dale wrote:
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be added in as
new things come out. I
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:32 -0600, Dale wrote:
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be added in as
new things come out. I still wonder
Nuno J. Silva wrote:
At least in UNIX-like systems, one can always have a separate /boot in
ext2, and use other filesystem everywhere else. It makes a grub update
less urgent.
Also, if they change - again - the way hard drives are accessed, just
because some oh, 8GiB is so big, no disk will
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:32 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Dale did
opine thusly:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub cannot be complete as there are always new file systems and boot
methods that could be added.
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:13 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Nuno J.
Silva did opine thusly:
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:32 -0600, Dale wrote:
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished.
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:57 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Grant
Edwards did opine thusly:
Citations?
You want me to quote another assumed authority when I can just quote the one
that's already inside my head?
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
On Thursday 13 January 2011 00:17:42 Dale wrote:
They always improving things on puters.
Well, changing them, anyway.
--
Rgds
Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-01-13, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 17:32:32 -0600, Dale wrote:
That was my point earlier. With computers changing, nothing will ever
be finished. There will always be something that has to be
On Thursday 13 January 2011 00:00:53 Dale wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
If you'd asked that 10 or 20 years ago, the answer, as far as
booting is concerned, would have been exactly the same as now.
So we don't have new and faster processors? Larger hard drives?
Faster DVD type media? More
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 23:57:32 Grant Edwards wrote:
I checked both us english and world english versions.
Neither of which is acceptable in UK, the home of English. Not to me, at
any rate.
Colonials all...
--
Rgds
Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.
On 01/12/2011 04:17 PM, Dale wrote:
I just learned a long time ago to never say I am done with anything.
We never know what will happen that makes us go back and fix something
else.
I distinctly remember declaring There! I'm done with my 1982 tax return!
BIG mistake :(
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:13 on Thursday 13 January 2011, Nuno J.
Silva did opine thusly:
Well, I think it's still possible to use INT13 for disk access :-)
You horrible person.
I just went 13 years without hearing that thing's name
On Thursday 13 January 2011 01:02:30 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:35 on Thursday 13 January 2011,
Peter Humphrey did opine thusly:
On Wednesday 12 January 2011 23:22:12 Jacob Todd wrote:
That makes perfect fucking sense.
Would you please not use gratuitously
walt wrote:
On 01/12/2011 04:17 PM, Dale wrote:
I just learned a long time ago to never say I am done with anything.
We never know what will happen that makes us go back and fix something
else.
I distinctly remember declaring There! I'm done with my 1982 tax
return!
BIG mistake :(
Get off your high horse. If I wouldn't of said 'that makes perfect fucking
sense, ' what I was trying to convey wouldn't have had the emotion it
needed. 'That makes perfect sense' seems to 'off-hand,' without any real
feeling to the statement. What it really says is 'that doesn't make any
sense,
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:51, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
walt wrote:
On 01/10/2011 01:37 PM, Dale wrote:
pk wrote:
On 2011-01-10 14:05, walt wrote:
You guys may be losing interest in grub2, but I'm having fun, so...
Although I've not been involved in this discussion I still
On Tuesday 11 January 2011 15:18:53 Daniel da Veiga wrote:
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 22:51, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
walt wrote:
On 01/10/2011 01:37 PM, Dale wrote:
pk wrote:
On 2011-01-10 14:05, walt wrote:
You guys may be losing interest in grub2, but I'm having fun, so...
On 01/09/2011 11:07 AM, walt wrote:
NOTE: I can't recall exactly why but the ata* modules conflict with some
other modules, so *don't use them* unless you know what you are doing.
NOTE: if grub2 names your disks (ataN,N) instead of (hdN,N) that means
you are using the ata* grub2 modules -- I
On 2011-01-10 14:05, walt wrote:
You guys may be losing interest in grub2, but I'm having fun, so...
Although I've not been involved in this discussion I still enjoy your
progress (I've been meaning to try out grub2 myself since grub1 is
basically EOLed but haven't had the time yet)... please
pk wrote:
On 2011-01-10 14:05, walt wrote:
You guys may be losing interest in grub2, but I'm having fun, so...
Although I've not been involved in this discussion I still enjoy your
progress (I've been meaning to try out grub2 myself since grub1 is
basically EOLed but haven't had the
walt wrote:
On 01/10/2011 01:37 PM, Dale wrote:
pk wrote:
On 2011-01-10 14:05, walt wrote:
You guys may be losing interest in grub2, but I'm having fun, so...
Although I've not been involved in this discussion I still enjoy your
progress (I've been meaning to try out grub2 myself since
On 01/09/2011 04:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:44 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did
opine thusly:
I have not tried grub2 yet but I did fine these:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2
http://grub.enbug.org/grub.cfg
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's
a puny OS with one extra feature - it can bootload!
You remember the vi versus emacs wars?
walt wrote:
On 01/09/2011 04:10 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 02:44 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale
did
opine thusly:
I have not tried grub2 yet but I did fine these:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Grub2
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:48 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did
opine thusly:
It has support for jpeg, every fs under the sun, and the grub2 ebuild even
has
a truetype USE flag.
Does it support mp3 or ogg vorbis? Don't tell me I
walt w41...@gmail.com writes:
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader, it's
a puny OS with one extra feature - it can bootload!
You remember the vi versus emacs wars?
But at least emacs is running in the operating
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did
opine thusly:
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a bootloader,
it's a puny OS with one extra feature - it can bootload!
You remember the vi
On 01/09/2011 01:19 PM, Nuno J. Silva wrote:
Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com writes:
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:48 on Sunday 09 January 2011, Dale did
opine thusly:
It has support for jpeg, every fs under the sun, and the grub2 ebuild even has
a truetype USE flag.
Does it
On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:26:38 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did
opine thusly:
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a
bootloader, it's a puny OS with one
On Sunday 09 January 2011 23:26:38 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did
opine thusly:
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not a
bootloader, it's a puny OS with one
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes:
On Sunday 09 January 2011 21:26:38 Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:50 on Sunday 09 January 2011, walt did
opine thusly:
On 01/09/2011 12:04 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
grub2 now looks like GNU/grub (sarcasm intended). It's not
On 01/09/2011 01:11 PM, Dale wrote:
walt wrote:
my grub recipe book snipped for brevity
This sounds about as complicated as lilo.
Much more complicated, but also more nifty :)
Is this going to end up like hal?
I certainly hope so!
You know, so complicated that no one can use the
On 01/09/2011 11:07 AM, walt wrote:
One problem I encountered on my old amd32 machine is that I had to remove
the USB-related grub2 modules or grub2 would crash while probing for disks.
The newer amd64 machine works fine with the USB stuff included. Dunno why.
By trial-and-error I found that
On Sunday 09 January 2011 22:54:14 walt wrote:
This mess goes back to IBM's decision to use the Intel 8086 CPU in
their shiny new PC
What? Little-endian hardware? Crackers: backwards thinking, which
Americans seem to me to be prone to. And yes, I did spend two years
working in Minneapolis 20
On Jan 9, 2011 8:11 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
On Sunday 09 January 2011 22:54:14 walt wrote:
The result was a brain-dead booting scheme which has been holding
back the Intel/x86 world to this very day. (But they all made a
huge bundle of cash along the way.)
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