Re: [gentoo-user] Listing directories with size greater than...

2005-07-24 Thread Chris Cox
On Friday 22 July 2005 09:17 am, Ryan Viljoen wrote:
 I need some help with listing home directories that are greater than i
 given size. I have tried
 find /home -type d -size +5k
 and
 find /home -type d -size +5k -iname *
 Both without much success...

 Any help will be :D
 Cheers
 Rav
Try this:

find /home/ -size +5  -exec ls -lahg {} \;

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[gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Ian K
Hi there,
I have an older laptop that I want to add to my network,
(its a 802.11B one) and I was wondering what brands/models
would work the best under Linux. Im fairly flexible, and would
really not like to tinker with too many drivers. Any good ideas?
Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Greg Bur
On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there,
 I have an older laptop that I want to add to my network,
 (its a 802.11B one) and I was wondering what brands/models
 would work the best under Linux. Im fairly flexible, and would
 really not like to tinker with too many drivers. Any good ideas?
 Thanks!

I've always had good luck with cards that use the Orinoco chipset and
the only time I've had to tinder with drivers was when I wanted to get
Kismet working with the card.  You should be able to pick one up for
under $50.  Check out http://www.proxim.com or
http://www.buffalotech.com for more details.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Colin


On Jul 24, 2005, at 2:54 AM, Greg Bur wrote:


On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi there,
I have an older laptop that I want to add to my network,
(its a 802.11B one) and I was wondering what brands/models
would work the best under Linux. Im fairly flexible, and would
really not like to tinker with too many drivers. Any good ideas?
Thanks!



I've always had good luck with cards that use the Orinoco chipset and
the only time I've had to tinder with drivers was when I wanted to get
Kismet working with the card.  You should be able to pick one up for
under $50.  Check out http://www.proxim.com or
http://www.buffalotech.com for more details.


Just remember, if the laptop isn't going too far, a good length of Ye  
Olde Cat5e is a much cheaper solution.  That being said...



Yeah, I picked up a great Orinoco (branded as Enterasys) at  
Rokland.com last month for roughly $50.  Atheros chipset, 802.11a/ 
SuperA/b/b+/g/SuperG... very nice.  It works in Windows (with the  
driver CD), Mac OS X (with the shareware OrangeWare driver--totally  
worth the $15 shareware fee) and, naturally, Linux (with MADWIFI).   
It picks up Channels 1 through 14, and can put out up to 100 mW of  
power (40 mW on A networks).


There's no antenna jack, though, but I hear most PCMCIA Orinocoes can  
be modded to include some kind of external jack;  I'm not that  
desperate for power, but with dial-up at home, I might do that mod  
and build a yagi antenna, get in my car, and... well, you get the  
idea. :-)


Still haven't had any luck with KisMAC (the OS X port of Kismet),  
though.  It finds my card but doesn't detect my wireless network...  
I'll figure it out eventually.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Ian K
Colin wrote:


 On Jul 24, 2005, at 2:54 AM, Greg Bur wrote:

 On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 I have an older laptop that I want to add to my network,
 (its a 802.11B one) and I was wondering what brands/models
 would work the best under Linux. Im fairly flexible, and would
 really not like to tinker with too many drivers. Any good ideas?
 Thanks!


 I've always had good luck with cards that use the Orinoco chipset and
 the only time I've had to tinder with drivers was when I wanted to get
 Kismet working with the card.  You should be able to pick one up for
 under $50.  Check out http://www.proxim.com or
 http://www.buffalotech.com for more details.


 Just remember, if the laptop isn't going too far, a good length of Ye 
 Olde Cat5e is a much cheaper solution.  That being said...


 Yeah, I picked up a great Orinoco (branded as Enterasys) at 
 Rokland.com last month for roughly $50.  Atheros chipset, 802.11a/
 SuperA/b/b+/g/SuperG... very nice.  It works in Windows (with the 
 driver CD), Mac OS X (with the shareware OrangeWare driver--totally 
 worth the $15 shareware fee) and, naturally, Linux (with MADWIFI).  
 It picks up Channels 1 through 14, and can put out up to 100 mW of 
 power (40 mW on A networks).

 There's no antenna jack, though, but I hear most PCMCIA Orinocoes can 
 be modded to include some kind of external jack;  I'm not that 
 desperate for power, but with dial-up at home, I might do that mod 
 and build a yagi antenna, get in my car, and... well, you get the 
 idea. :-)

 Still haven't had any luck with KisMAC (the OS X port of Kismet), 
 though.  It finds my card but doesn't detect my wireless network... 
 I'll figure it out eventually.
 -- 
 Colin

My other laptop has a nice atheros wireless card, very painless to set
up. I dont know what
chipsets are on what cards, so perhaps you could give me a model name
and brand? I really
just want to be able to goto futureshop and pick one up.. :)
Thank you for understanding my dumbness. :)
Ian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Ian K
Colin wrote:


 On Jul 24, 2005, at 2:54 AM, Greg Bur wrote:

 On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi there,
 I have an older laptop that I want to add to my network,
 (its a 802.11B one) and I was wondering what brands/models
 would work the best under Linux. Im fairly flexible, and would
 really not like to tinker with too many drivers. Any good ideas?
 Thanks!


 I've always had good luck with cards that use the Orinoco chipset and
 the only time I've had to tinder with drivers was when I wanted to get
 Kismet working with the card.  You should be able to pick one up for
 under $50.  Check out http://www.proxim.com or
 http://www.buffalotech.com for more details.


 Just remember, if the laptop isn't going too far, a good length of Ye 
 Olde Cat5e is a much cheaper solution.  That being said...

Oh, this laptop has absolutely no ethernet port, and the router is in my
parent's room, so just to be out of the way, i would like to go for a
wireless card. :)
Ian
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Greg Bur
 
 Just remember, if the laptop isn't going too far, a good length of Ye
 Olde Cat5e is a much cheaper solution.  That being said...

Changes the possible security implications too...

 
 
 Yeah, I picked up a great Orinoco (branded as Enterasys) at
 Rokland.com last month for roughly $50.  Atheros chipset, 802.11a/
 SuperA/b/b+/g/SuperG... very nice.  It works in Windows (with the
 driver CD), Mac OS X (with the shareware OrangeWare driver--totally
 worth the $15 shareware fee) and, naturally, Linux (with MADWIFI).
 It picks up Channels 1 through 14, and can put out up to 100 mW of
 power (40 mW on A networks).

I forgot about Enterasys and Atheros.  The Orinoco-based cards have
power output of around 24mW and the sensitivity is right around -83dB
which I've found works well in most situations.  I usually see about
3.5mbps of throughput when connected at 11mbps.  Could be better but
it gets the job done.  Btw, I think YDI (Terabeam) still sells an
Orinoco-based card.  They've got really good support should you need
it.

 There's no antenna jack, though, but I hear most PCMCIA Orinocoes can
 be modded to include some kind of external jack;  I'm not that
 desperate for power, but with dial-up at home, I might do that mod
 and build a yagi antenna, get in my car, and... well, you get the
 idea. :-)

I've got three or four of the cards back from the days when they were
still made by Lucent and with the proper pigtail you can connect an
external antenna.  In fact I used to use Orinoco PC cards with a PCI
adapter to deliver high-speed access to folks around here and they
worked quite well, then the telco showed up with DSL but that's
another story.  As for the newer cards, I believe the Proxim cards can
be modded by opening the antenna housing on the card to get to the
antenna connector.  If you want to go to an external antenna check
with YDI, I think they still make PC cards with external antenna
connectors.


 Still haven't had any luck with KisMAC (the OS X port of Kismet),
 though.  It finds my card but doesn't detect my wireless network...
 I'll figure it out eventually.

Maybe the drivers don't support monitor mode?  That's what I ran into
with Linux but that was only a kernel patch away and my experience
with KisMAC is exactly zero...



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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Greg Bur
On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My other laptop has a nice atheros wireless card, very painless to set
 up. I dont know what
 chipsets are on what cards, so perhaps you could give me a model name
 and brand? I really
 just want to be able to goto futureshop and pick one up.. :)
 Thank you for understanding my dumbness. :)
 Ian
 

http://tinyurl.com/9l9wl

That should work well for you ;)  I noticed on a previous page that
they offer an 802.11g card for $30 but I'm not sure about driver
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Ian K wrote:


My other laptop has a nice atheros wireless card, very painless to set
up. I dont know what
chipsets are on what cards, so perhaps you could give me a model name
and brand?



Unfortunately, neither does anybody else on this list.  This is because 
manufacturers have a habit of changing chipsets without changing model 
numbers.  So lot #1234 can be atheros, while #1235 can be intersil, 
#1236 can be, well you get the picture.


The best is to buy from a store with a liberal return/exchange 
policy...of course it always helps if it says supports linux on the box!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Colin


On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:56 AM, Richard Fish wrote:


Ian K wrote:


My other laptop has a nice atheros wireless card, very painless to  
set

up. I dont know what
chipsets are on what cards, so perhaps you could give me a model name
and brand?




Unfortunately, neither does anybody else on this list.  This is  
because manufacturers have a habit of changing chipsets without  
changing model numbers.  So lot #1234 can be atheros, while #1235  
can be intersil, #1236 can be, well you get the picture.


The best is to buy from a store with a liberal return/exchange  
policy...of course it always helps if it says supports linux on  
the box!


Yeah, if you've listened to this list, you'll know some chipsets are  
good, and some are just plain bad.  Bad chipsets (Broadcom, PrismGT,  
ACX100, ACX111) are not supported well if at all under Linux.  (Hell,  
even Windows choked on a Windows-only ACX111 card.)  You may have  
success with the Windows drivers and NDISwrapper, but more than  
likely this is one for shipping back to your e-tailer.  These  
chipsets being el cheapo, they pop up in a lot of low-end consumer  
wireless devices.   Good chipsets (Atheros, Atmel, Intersil, Orinoco,  
Prism, Prism2) are natively supported by Linux, and most of them can  
be loaded from the LiveCD with the modprobe command.  The rest are  
usually supported by building in support when you build the kernel.   
Sadly, these are more expensive because all the hardware is on the  
card, and nothing is emulated via a driver (remember Winmodems vs.  
hardware modems?  This is it all over again.)  But you do get what  
you pay for, as a lot of enterprise-level solutions have these  
chipsets, and they boast excellent reliability, compatibility and range.


Any other chipset, just Google.  Some manufacturers stick to one  
chipset (like Apple does Broadcom).  However, most manufacturers  
often change chipsets during production without warning, keeping the  
same model number and just tacking on a Revision B, often written  
on the card only but most do write it on the box in tiny print.  Just  
wait until no one's looking and open up the box and check :-)


As for supports Linux, there are far too many distros, drivers,  
hacks and configurations to test with.  Maybe they tested Debian with  
MADWIFI?  Slackware with NDISwrapper... and which Windows driver?  If  
it says Linux compatible, don't take it as a green light.  Take it as  
a yield sign instead--look first, then go.


If you've got a laptop, bring it and a LiveCD to the store (if you  
don't buy it online) and give it a whirl... with permission, of  
course.  And slip the boy at Best Buy a couple Alexander Hamiltons  
($10 bills, in case you forgot your U.S. history) for making him put  
up with you testing a million different cards and not finding  
anything that works. :-P

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Greg Bur
 Unfortunately, neither does anybody else on this list.  This is because
 manufacturers have a habit of changing chipsets without changing model
 numbers.  So lot #1234 can be atheros, while #1235 can be intersil,
 #1236 can be, well you get the picture.
 
 The best is to buy from a store with a liberal return/exchange
 policy...of course it always helps if it says supports linux on the box!
 
 -Richard

This is exactly why I stick with Proxim or Buffalotech, they aren't
the usual moving targets like some other vendors.  It's also nice to
have the ability to pick up the phone and talk to someone about the
product.  They are usually quite willing to help.  Speaking of
companies who are willing to help check out http://www.demarctech.com.
 They post right on their website whether or not a particular card has
Linux drivers available and they cater primarily to small, independent
WISPs.  Good bunch of people to work with.  I hope all of this
information has helped rather than furthered your confusion.


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[gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

2005-07-24 Thread Fabrizio Prosperi
Hi all, I am experiencing this strange problem.
Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
(mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 

Just doing cat /var/log/portage/that-log.log
is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.

I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
And why konsole is not affected by it?

Any help appreciated.
Fabrizio


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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

2005-07-24 Thread Fabrizio Prosperi
Me again, of course it wasnt't emerge --pretend, it was emerge --update
world :)
Fabrizio

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 10:52:06AM +0200, Fabrizio Prosperi wrote:
 Hi all, I am experiencing this strange problem.
 Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
 an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
 (mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
 
 Just doing cat /var/log/portage/that-log.log
 is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
 
 I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
 And why konsole is not affected by it?
 
 Any help appreciated.
 Fabrizio
 
 
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[gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
Hi guys,
I just bought a new PS/2 Trust optical mouse (3 buttons), but I can't
get it works under my gentoo:
I'm using gentoo-sources 2.6.12-r6 for amd64 and I think I configured
my kernel as well as possible for PS/2 mice support.
When system boots, it turns the red laser light off and when i try
cat /dev/input/mice or cat /dev/psaux i get some X on 1,2 and 3
button pressed.
I think there is probably a problem on hw detection on system booting,
but I really don't know where to put my hands on!!!
Can anybody help me please

TNX!
S.G.

PS: dmesg | grep PS/2:
PNP: PS/2 Controller... irq 1,12
 mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
 input ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

smoke3 wrote:


Hi guys,
I just bought a new PS/2 Trust optical mouse (3 buttons), but I can't
get it works under my gentoo:
I'm using gentoo-sources 2.6.12-r6 for amd64 and I think I configured
my kernel as well as possible for PS/2 mice support.
When system boots, it turns the red laser light off and when i try
cat /dev/input/mice or cat /dev/psaux i get some X on 1,2 and 3
button pressed.
 



Ok, so you get some characters when you read /dev/input/mice and 
/dev/psaux.  What doesn't work?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [Update] - was 1.) Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interupt handler

2005-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:32:19 -0400, Robert Crawford wrote:

 OK- if it doesn't happen during light computing stuff, and only with
 very cpu intensive stuff like compiling, I feel virtually certain it is
 a cpu heat issue.  IMHO, there's not really any other reasonable
 explanation. 

A duff power supply? That would also tend to suffer under heavy load.


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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
On 7/24/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, so you get some characters when you read /dev/input/mice and
 /dev/psaux.  What doesn't work?

I don't get any trash chars when i move my mouse and red light is off!
If i unplug and re-plug the mouse, i get red light turned on for just
a second and if i try to move the mouse, it gets off again.
What does work?
;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

2005-07-24 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:52:06 +0200
Fabrizio Prosperi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
 an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
 (mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
 
 Just doing cat /var/log/portage/that-log.log
 is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
 
 I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 

Hm, don't know about aterm and its memory management, but that's for
sure: _swappiness_ should have absolutely nothing to do with this. The
swap management isn't up to userspace applications, that's kernel's
matter. Well, there might be some small probability left that your swap
management is somewhat hosed due to bugs in the kernel but that is very
unlikely and wouldn't explain why these conditions only occur with
aterm and only affect aterm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

smoke3 wrote:


On 7/24/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


Ok, so you get some characters when you read /dev/input/mice and
/dev/psaux.  What doesn't work?
   



I don't get any trash chars when i move my mouse and red light is off!
If i unplug and re-plug the mouse, i get red light turned on for just
a second and if i try to move the mouse, it gets off again.
What does work?
;)

 



Ok, your original message wasn't clear to me.  Many mice have a 
two-stage LED that goes dim after a few seconds (not completely off 
though).  And I thought that X was a translation for the non-printing 
characters.


Did you set CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y or =m?  If =y, try rebuilding as a 
module.  This would let you remove and reload the driver (rmmod psmouse; 
modprobe psmouse) to see what happens.


Also, is this a real PS/2 mouse (not using a USB to PS/2 adapter), or do 
you use a KVM switch?


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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:


Hi,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:52:06 +0200
Fabrizio Prosperi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 


Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
(mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 


Just doing cat /var/log/portage/that-log.log
is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.

I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 
   



Hm, don't know about aterm and its memory management, but that's for
sure: _swappiness_ should have absolutely nothing to do with this. The
swap management isn't up to userspace applications, that's kernel's
matter. Well, there might be some small probability left that your swap
management is somewhat hosed due to bugs in the kernel but that is very
unlikely and wouldn't explain why these conditions only occur with
aterm and only affect aterm.

-hwh
 



This may be a shot in the dark, since I don't use aterm, but can you 
check /var/log/messages and see if maybe the kernel is killing aterm due 
to excessive memory usage?  The search string is oom for out-of-memory.


-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] switching to LCD monitor

2005-07-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 01:36:44AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
 050723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  LCD monitors are fixed-rate,
  so you have to buy one that has the resolution you like
  with CRT monitors where you buy the highest resolution
  and then display at a lower rate if you wish.
 
 Why would you want to display at lower resolution than the best available ?

to make the fonts look bigger.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 11:51 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 Jules Colding wrote:
  Hi,
  
  emerge --sync  emerge -vauDN today gave me the following error.
  
 [snip]
adding: content/cookie/contents.rdf (stored 0%)
  +++ making
 chrome 
 /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2/work/mozilla/extensions/cookie  = 
 ../../dist/bin/chrome/modern.jar
  zip warning: ../modern.jar not found or empty
adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/taskbar-cookie.gif (stored
 0%)
adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/status-cookie.gif (stored
 0%)
  +++ making chrome /var/tmp/portage/homedir
 = ../../dist/bin/chrome/classic.jar
  error: file './resources/skin/classic/taskbar-cookie.gif' doesn't
 exist at ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418.
 
 This seems like a continuation of the previous build problems that you
 have had with firefox (where we were discussing MAKEOPTS).  

Yes, that is my thought too.

 Assuming that others cannot reproduce this (sorry, I don't have my
 amd64 right now), there's still something wrong with your build system
 somewhere.  

I think that I am the only one that can show the problem so you might
very well be correct.

 This could be a shot in the dark, but I think that you should remerge
 your autoconf and automake packages to see if that affects this.

I'll be doing that.

Thanks,
  jules


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 23:26 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Hmm, since others with similar systems cannot duplicate the problem, I 
 decided to capture all of the build output on my system (P4) and 
 compare.  Jules, there is definitely something not right on your system, 
 but I don't know what yet.  You get the following:
 
 +++ overriding content/cookie/contents.rdf
   adding: content/cookie/contents.rdf (stored 0%)
 +++ making chrome 
 /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2/work/mozilla/extensions/cookie  = 
 ../../dist/bin/chrome/modern.jar
 zip warning: ../modern.jar not found or empty
   adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/taskbar-cookie.gif (stored 0%)
   adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/status-cookie.gif (stored 0%)
 +++ making chrome /var/tmp/portage/homedir  = 
 ../../dist/bin/chrome/classic.jar
 error: file './resources/skin/classic/taskbar-cookie.gif' doesn't exist at 
 ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418.
 
 The /var/tmp/portage/homedir is wrong.  

Sharp eyes. I didn't notice that one.

 On my system, I get:
 
 +++ overriding content/cookie/contents.rdf
   adding: content/cookie/contents.rdf (stored 0%)
 +++ making chrome 
 /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2/work/mozilla/extensions/cookie  = 
 ../../dist/bin/chrome/modern.jar
 zip warning: ../modern.jar not found or empty
   adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/taskbar-cookie.gif (stored 0%)
   adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/status-cookie.gif (stored 0%)
 +++ making chrome 
 /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2/work/mozilla/extensions/cookie  = 
 ../../dist/bin/chrome/classic.jar
 
 Using the wrong version of autoconf/automake is the only thing I can think of 
 that would cause this kind of thing.
 
 What do you get if you do:
 
 # which autoconf
omc-2 ~ # which autoconf
/usr/bin/autoconf

 # autoconf --version
omc-2 ~ # autoconf --version
autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59
Written by David J. MacKenzie and Akim Demaille.


I am trying to reemerge autoconf and automake as zac advised. BTW, the
homedir above is now empty, but is does still exists. It has other
permissions that the other directories. Like:

### snip ##
drwxr-xr-x  3 portage portage  72 Jul 21 03:05 grep-2.5.1-r6
drwxr-xr-x  3 portage portage  72 Jul 21 02:10 gzip-1.3.5-r5
drwxrws---  4 portage portage 120 Jul 22 20:58 homedir
drwxr-xr-x  3 portage portage  72 Jul 19 21:41 linux-headers-2.6.8.1-r4
### snip ##

Don't know if that is significant, but is sure does look suspicious...

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
On 7/24/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 Did you set CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y or =m?  If =y, try rebuilding as a
 module.  This would let you remove and reload the driver (rmmod psmouse;
 modprobe psmouse) to see what happens.

I tried it also as module: I even passed every type of proto to the
module during modprobe, but while i'm fetching the driver, the light
turns off and I can only cat buttons working

 Also, is this a real PS/2 mouse (not using a USB to PS/2 adapter), 

Yes it's a _real_ PS/2 mouse ;)


 or do
 you use a KVM switch?

What is a KVM switch? It's the first time i hear this!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 14:22 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:
 On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 11:51 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
  Jules Colding wrote:
   Hi,
   
   emerge --sync  emerge -vauDN today gave me the following error.
   
  [snip]
 adding: content/cookie/contents.rdf (stored 0%)
   +++ making
  chrome 
  /var/tmp/portage/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2/work/mozilla/extensions/cookie  
  = ../../dist/bin/chrome/modern.jar
   zip warning: ../modern.jar not found or empty
 adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/taskbar-cookie.gif (stored
  0%)
 adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/status-cookie.gif (stored
  0%)
   +++ making chrome /var/tmp/portage/homedir
  = ../../dist/bin/chrome/classic.jar
   error: file './resources/skin/classic/taskbar-cookie.gif' doesn't
  exist at ../../config/make-jars.pl line 418.
  
  This seems like a continuation of the previous build problems that you
  have had with firefox (where we were discussing MAKEOPTS).  
 
 Yes, that is my thought too.
 
  Assuming that others cannot reproduce this (sorry, I don't have my
  amd64 right now), there's still something wrong with your build system
  somewhere.  
 
 I think that I am the only one that can show the problem so you might
 very well be correct.
 
  This could be a shot in the dark, but I think that you should remerge
  your autoconf and automake packages to see if that affects this.
 
 I'll be doing that.

OK, I get a segfault doing that:

## snip ###
test -z /usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake || mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake
 /bin/install -c -m 644 'Config.pm' 
'/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake/Config.pm'
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/Automake'
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/Automake'
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/Automake'
Making install in am
make[2]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
test -z /usr/share/automake-1.9/am || mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/am
/bin/sh: line 1: 16093 Segmentation fault  mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/am
make[3]: *** [install-dist_amDATA] Error 139
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[2]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/automake-1.9.5 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 36, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.
## snip ###

Wouldn't it be a good idea on this point to reemerge coreutils or maybe
the whole of system? 

Is the correct way doing:

emerge -e system
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
emerge -e world

? or is a single emerge -e system sufficient?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread Michal Pronay
smoke3 wrote:
 On 7/24/05, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Did you set CONFIG_MOUSE_PS2=y or =m?  If =y, try rebuilding as a
module.  This would let you remove and reload the driver (rmmod psmouse;
modprobe psmouse) to see what happens.
 
 
 I tried it also as module: I even passed every type of proto to the
 module during modprobe, but while i'm fetching the driver, the light
 turns off and I can only cat buttons working
 
 
Also, is this a real PS/2 mouse (not using a USB to PS/2 adapter), 
 
 
 Yes it's a _real_ PS/2 mouse ;)
 
 
 
or do
you use a KVM switch?
 
 
 What is a KVM switch? It's the first time i hear this!
 
 

Looks like your mouse is broken, try booting some livecd like knoppix
for example.

KVM means keyboard,video, mouse and stands for a switch between more pcs
and one console equipted with a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Such a
console can be mounted in a rack and you can control more servers with
it for example.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 01:02 +0200, Patrick Börjesson wrote:
 Although... I would suggest that the OP give a more explicit question,
 since I was really not sure if it was a anyone seen this before?, I'm
 a n00b, please solve this for me! or a where should I take this to get
 it solved? question. 

Being the OP it was a question in the line of 

Here might be a potential problem in the build but I don't know if it
is the source, my system, the ebuild or if I'm an idiot. Has anyone seen
this too? 

Sorry if I was to vague. I'll be more specific the next time :-) 


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Re: [gentoo-user] switching to LCD monitor

2005-07-24 Thread David Corbin
On Sunday 24 July 2005 06:21 am, Thomas Dickey wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 01:36:44AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
  050723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   LCD monitors are fixed-rate,
   so you have to buy one that has the resolution you like
   with CRT monitors where you buy the highest resolution
   and then display at a lower rate if you wish.
 
  Why would you want to display at lower resolution than the best available
  ?

 to make the fonts look bigger.

Why don't you change your default font to a larger font instead?

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Re: [gentoo-user] switching to LCD monitor

2005-07-24 Thread Michal Pronay
Thomas Dickey wrote:
 On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 01:36:44AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
 
050723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

LCD monitors are fixed-rate,
so you have to buy one that has the resolution you like
with CRT monitors where you buy the highest resolution
and then display at a lower rate if you wish.

Why would you want to display at lower resolution than the best available ?
 
 
 to make the fonts look bigger.
 

Sorry i missed the point. Why would you change the native resolution on
a LCD monitor to get bigger fonts, when you can change the font size to
a bigger one and leave the resolution native ? ;o)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beep holding CTRL

2005-07-24 Thread David Corbin
On Saturday 23 July 2005 10:11 pm, Michal Pronay wrote:
 Sound like accessibility support to me. Try to take a look in your kde
 control panel - Regional  Accessibility - Accessibility.

 M.

Well, that allows me to turn off the System Bell, but I'm curious as to why 
it's beeping in the first place.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
On 7/24/05, Michal Pronay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Looks like your mouse is broken, try booting some livecd like knoppix
 for example.

Easy way, but not the right one: my mouse is new and does function on
other computers running M$...

 
 KVM means keyboard,video, mouse and stands for a switch between more pcs
 and one console equipted with a monitor, keyboard and mouse. Such a
 console can be mounted in a rack and you can control more servers with
 it for example.

Ok, i remember i just heard something about it, but that wasn't the
name... However i thought it was a kind of enterprise stuff, not
really useful at home, with only one PC installed. ;)

Any ideas else?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] problems on AMD64

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 12:08 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
 On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:51:53 +0200
 Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Thank you for your advise. I got sound working by disabling ALSA and
  using OSS instead. I think this is an ALSA AMD64 issue.
  
 
 No, it's not.  The reason I can say that is I have a 2P Opteron with the same 
 chipset as
 your system and a SB Audigy 2.  Running alsa causes no problems.  It's either 
 a hardware
 issue or a kernel issue.

Obviously. The sound works perfect under XP with Creative drivers and
with the deprecated OSS drivers, so we seems to be left with some
kernel issue. Anyway, I have filed a detailed bug at alsa-project and I
hope it will help them to eventually track is down.


 At some point, the problem will need resolution as kernel OSS is going away.  

Yes.

 But for now I'm glad you have it working.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 11:51 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:
 This seems like a continuation of the previous build problems that you
 have had with firefox (where we were discussing MAKEOPTS).  Assuming
 that others cannot reproduce this (sorry, I don't have my amd64 right
 now), there's still something wrong with your build system somewhere.
 This could be a shot in the dark, but I think that you should remerge
 your autoconf and automake packages to see if that affects this.

Hmm... Among my USE flags is nptlonly. Might that be a problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:52:11 +0200
smoke3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On 7/24/05, Michal Pronay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  Looks like your mouse is broken, try booting some livecd like knoppix
  for example.
 
 Easy way, but not the right one: my mouse is new and does function on
 other computers running M$...

Hm, OK, other computers... What about the computer you want to use it
with? What does it do if you try another OS? When the mouse is
considered OK, then there's the computer left...

I'd also check
* BIOS settings regarding the mouse
* the right PS/2 plug (not that keyboard one...)
* dmesg output regarding the psaux driver
* another PS/2 mouse (this isn't clear from your postings if there was
  one before you bought the new one)

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
On 7/24/05, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hm, OK, other computers... What about the computer you want to use it
 with? What does it do if you try another OS? When the mouse is
 considered OK, then there's the computer left...

It's OK: I had winzoz installed from the seller i bought it from and
the mouse did function as well!

 
 I'd also check
 * BIOS settings regarding the mouse
Everything ok!

 * the right PS/2 plug (not that keyboard one...)
nice joke, but... no!

 * dmesg output regarding the psaux driver

dmesg | grep psaux -- nothing
dmesg | grep PS/2 -- 
 PNP: PS/2 Controller... irq 1,12
  mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
  input ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1

 * another PS/2 mouse (this isn't clear from your postings if there was
   one before you bought the new one)

Ok: I tried an older mouse (not optical) and it does function... cat
/dev/psaux sends me lots of trash when i move it. -- the PC is ok!
***
NEED
HELP
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Re: [gentoo-user] aterm do crash displaying long files, konsole don't: swappiness problem?

2005-07-24 Thread Fabrizio Prosperi
Thank you guys for the replies, I don't have access to the machine right
now but I'll check /var/log/messages for oom messages and get back to
you ASAP.

Fabrizio

On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 12:24:19PM +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:52:06 +0200
 Fabrizio Prosperi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
 
 Doing a long emerge -up world aterm kept crashing and I thought it was
 an emerge problem, but then I focused on a particular emerge
 (mozilla-firefox) and I realised it was it. 
 
 Just doing cat /var/log/portage/that-log.log
 is making aterm crash again, but not konsole.
 
 I guess I something with swappiness settings, but how to fix it? 

 
 
 Hm, don't know about aterm and its memory management, but that's for
 sure: _swappiness_ should have absolutely nothing to do with this. The
 swap management isn't up to userspace applications, that's kernel's
 matter. Well, there might be some small probability left that your swap
 management is somewhat hosed due to bugs in the kernel but that is very
 unlikely and wouldn't explain why these conditions only occur with
 aterm and only affect aterm.
 
 -hwh
  
 
 
 This may be a shot in the dark, since I don't use aterm, but can you 
 check /var/log/messages and see if maybe the kernel is killing aterm due 
 to excessive memory usage?  The search string is oom for out-of-memory.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:23:14 +0200
smoke3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's OK: I had winzoz installed from the seller i bought it from and
 the mouse did function as well!

Hm, OK, it definately _is_ a driver issue then...

  * the right PS/2 plug (not that keyboard one...)
 nice joke, but... no!

Well, seen it before, and I thought to mention it doesn't harm... :-)
 
 dmesg | grep PS/2 -- 
  PNP: PS/2 Controller... irq 1,12
   mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
   input ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1

Hm, OK. So it _is_ recognized then... Maybe the kernel choses a level
that's too high. From kernel docs (kernel-parameters.txt):

snip
psmouse.proto=  [HW,MOUSE] Highest PS2 mouse protocol extension to
probe for (bare|imps|exps).
psmouse.rate=   [HW,MOUSE] Set desired mouse report rate, in reports
per second.
psmouse.resetafter=
[HW,MOUSE] Try to reset the device after so many bad 
packets
(0 = never).
snip

So I'd try to begin with the proto setting. Note that this only applies
if the driver actually is compiled into the kernel instead of being a
module. In the latter case, you'd need to edit the module parameters.

On the grub kernel line (or LILO's parameter line, respectively),
append something like:

psmouse.proto=imps

And see what happens. Try with the other values (exps, bare), too. Of
course, this will need a reboot after modifiing the kernel command line.

As a side note, my dmesg reads:
Jul  2 12:59:52 sub00421 input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1


Last question: Does this mouse work for any (other) linux box? What
does the dmesg read there?


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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
On 7/24/05, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hm, OK, it definately _is_ a driver issue then...
 
   * the right PS/2 plug (not that keyboard one...)
  nice joke, but... no!
 
 Well, seen it before, and I thought to mention it doesn't harm... :-)

Ok ok! I'm a bit nervous on this mouse marrow...! ;)
 
  dmesg | grep PS/2 --
   PNP: PS/2 Controller... irq 1,12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
input ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse on isa0060/serio1
 
 Hm, OK. So it _is_ recognized then... Maybe the kernel choses a level
 that's too high. From kernel docs (kernel-parameters.txt):
 
 snip
 psmouse.proto=  [HW,MOUSE] Highest PS2 mouse protocol extension to
 probe for (bare|imps|exps).
 psmouse.rate=   [HW,MOUSE] Set desired mouse report rate, in reports
 per second.
 psmouse.resetafter=
 [HW,MOUSE] Try to reset the device after so many bad 
 packets
 (0 = never).
 snip
 
I tried all the protocols... I even modified psmouse-base.c in order
to get all the abbreviation for protos, but none of them did
function...

I dont' know how to use the latter params!!! Any explaination is appreciated!

 As a side note, my dmesg reads:
 Jul  2 12:59:52 sub00421 input: ImPS/2 Generic Wheel Mouse on isa0060/serio1
 Last question: Does this mouse work for any (other) linux box? What
 does the dmesg read there?

I'm downloading a knoppix 3.9... i'll upload any result!
For now none!


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Jules Colding wrote:


This could be a shot in the dark, but I think that you should remerge
your autoconf and automake packages to see if that affects this.
 


I'll be doing that.
   



OK, I get a segfault doing that:

## snip ###
test -z /usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake || mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake
/bin/install -c -m 644 'Config.pm' 
'/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/Automake/Config.pm'
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/Automake'
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/Automake'
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/Automake'
Making install in am
make[2]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[3]: Nothing to be done for `install-exec-am'.
test -z /usr/share/automake-1.9/am || mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/am
/bin/sh: line 1: 16093 Segmentation fault  mkdir -p -- 
/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/image//usr/share/automake-1.9/am
make[3]: *** [install-dist_amDATA] Error 139
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[2]: *** [install-am] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib/am'
make[1]: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/automake-1.9.5/work/automake-1.9.5/lib'
make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/automake-1.9.5 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 36, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status message.
## snip ###

Wouldn't it be a good idea on this point to reemerge coreutils or maybe
the whole of system? 


Is the correct way doing:

emerge -e system
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
emerge -e world

 



Well, since world includes system, if you want to rebuild *everything*, 
I would think the following should be sufficient


emerge --oneshot gcc binutils
(check gcc-config and binutils-config to ensure sanity)
emerge -e world

The above should ensure that everything gets rebuilt with the rebuilt 
version of gcc and binutils.


To save some time, you could try just system instead of world.  That 
*should* still give you a sane build environment, but if you get many 
more segfaults, I am going to start thinking that you have some hardware 
problems...


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Re: [gentoo-user] switching to LCD monitor

2005-07-24 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 06:45:56AM -0400, David Corbin wrote:
 On Sunday 24 July 2005 06:21 am, Thomas Dickey wrote:
  On Sun, Jul 24, 2005 at 01:36:44AM -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
   050723 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
LCD monitors are fixed-rate,
so you have to buy one that has the resolution you like
with CRT monitors where you buy the highest resolution
and then display at a lower rate if you wish.
  
   Why would you want to display at lower resolution than the best available
   ?
 
  to make the fonts look bigger.
 
 Why don't you change your default font to a larger font instead?

bitmap fonts only go so big - and there's not a matching bold for many of
the larger sizes.  I'm certain that some people sending bug-reports are
using lower screen resolutions because they're finding odd problems with
the small font sizes.  Some of those are because of hardware limitations,
but it is also likely that some are using lower screen resolutions because
the effective font sizes are larger (and more readable).

Of course if one chooses only scalable fonts (with the corresponding
performance degradation), this is irrelvant.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beep holding Shift

2005-07-24 Thread Benno Schulenberg
David Corbin wrote:
 On Saturday 23 July 2005 10:11 pm, Michal Pronay wrote:
  Sound like accessibility support to me. Try to take a look in
  your kde control panel - Regional  Accessibility -
  Accessibility.

 Well, that allows me to turn off the System Bell, but I'm curious
 as to why it's beeping in the first place.

Go to the Keyboard tab there, press Shift-F1, and click on 
Activation gestures.  You will see it wasn't Ctrl but Shift that 
beeps after 8 seconds.  You may want to read the relevant section 
in the Help Center.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread Matt Randolph

smoke3 wrote:


On 7/24/05, Hans-Werner Hilse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 


* the right PS/2 plug (not that keyboard one...)
   


nice joke, but... no!
 



Did you get the mouse working under M$ on this computer or a different 
one?  If you have never gotten it to work on this computer, you might 
try switching the mouse and keyboard anyway... regardless of what the 
little labels say.


I had a motherboard once where the bios was programmed wrong.  I 
couldn't get my keyboard to work at all.  It would come on at boot, and 
then it would stop working.  Or something like that.  I remember it was 
very mysterious.  It turned out they had gotten the keyboard and mouse 
ports mixed up in the bios.  I switched the mouse and keyboard so that 
they were each in the _wrong_ jack and then they both worked fine.  I 
think they fixed the problem in a bios update by making it not matter 
which jack you used for what.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 14:48 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Well, since world includes system, if you want to rebuild *everything*, 
 I would think the following should be sufficient
 
 emerge --oneshot gcc binutils

OK. What about glibc or is that just a part of world? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Jules Colding wrote:


On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 11:51 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:


This seems like a continuation of the previous build problems that you
have had with firefox (where we were discussing MAKEOPTS). Assuming
that others cannot reproduce this (sorry, I don't have my amd64 right
now), there's still something wrong with your build system somewhere.
This could be a shot in the dark, but I think that you should remerge
your autoconf and automake packages to see if that affects this.



Hmm... Among my USE flags is nptlonly. Might that be a problem?



Well, nptlonly seems to work for a lot of people, so I don't think that 
should be a problem.  I've only ever heard of it affecting old 
binary-only software.


The only change I would be tempted to make to your USE flags would be to 
add multilib, which would give you the ability to build/run both 32 and 
64-bit applications.  I don't see how this could fix your current 
problems...but I did notice that Bob Sanders (one of the two WFM reports 
on this thread) has this in his USE flags.  Of course he also doesn't 
have nptlonly, or userlocales, so who knows...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Jules Colding wrote:


On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 14:48 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 

Well, since world includes system, if you want to rebuild *everything*, 
I would think the following should be sufficient


emerge --oneshot gcc binutils
   



OK. What about glibc or is that just a part of world? 

 



It is part of world.  On my system it would be the 152nd package to be 
rebuilt.


Technically, both gcc and binutils are also part of world, and will be 
built twice with the above instructions, but since they generate just 
about everything else, you want to make sure those are sane before starting.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 15:20 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Jules Colding wrote:
  Hmm... Among my USE flags is nptlonly. Might that be a problem?
 
 
 Well, nptlonly seems to work for a lot of people, so I don't think that 
 should be a problem.  I've only ever heard of it affecting old 
 binary-only software.

I am seeing random crashes of Evolution. The backtrace originates, as
far I know, always in libpthread, so maybe this nptlonly is a bad idea
after all?


 The only change I would be tempted to make to your USE flags would be to 
 add multilib, which would give you the ability to build/run both 32 and 
 64-bit applications.  I don't see how this could fix your current 
 problems...but I did notice that Bob Sanders (one of the two WFM reports 
 on this thread) has this in his USE flags.  Of course he also doesn't 
 have nptlonly, or userlocales, so who knows...

Hmm... I am seeing (-multilib) when doing the emerge of gcc and
binutils, so multilib is disabled by my profile and shouldn't be enabled
manually, right?

Thanks,
  jules


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Rumen Yotov
Jules Colding wrote:

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 14:22 +0200, Jules Colding wrote:

On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 11:51 -0700, Zac Medico wrote:

Jules Colding wrote:

Hi,

emerge --sync  emerge -vauDN today gave me the following error.

[snip]

 adding: content/cookie/contents.rdf (stored 0%)
+++ making

chrome
/var/tmp/portage/mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2/work/mozilla/extensions/cookie
= ../../dist/bin/chrome/modern.jar

 zip warning: ../modern.jar not found or empty
 adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/taskbar-cookie.gif (stored

0%)

 adding: skin/modern/communicator/cookie/status-cookie.gif (stored

...SKIP...

!!! ERROR: sys-devel/automake-1.9.5 failed.
!!! Function src_install, Line 36, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status
message.
## snip ###

Wouldn't it be a good idea on this point to reemerge coreutils or maybe
the whole of system?

Is the correct way doing:

emerge -e system
emerge -e system
emerge -e world
emerge -e world

? or is a single emerge -e system sufficient?

Thanks,
 jules


Hi,
Don't have any new idea, but could you check if there are some
hardened USE-flags in your /etc/make.conf (like 'pic', 'pie',
'hardened' etc). Using some of them on a normal system may cause problems.
HTH. Rumen



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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 16:28 +0300, Rumen Yotov wrote:

 Hi,
 Don't have any new idea, but could you check if there are some
 hardened USE-flags in your /etc/make.conf (like 'pic', 'pie',
 'hardened' etc). Using some of them on a normal system may cause problems.
 HTH. Rumen

Nope, none.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Jules Colding wrote:


Hmm... I am seeing (-multilib) when doing the emerge of gcc and
binutils, so multilib is disabled by my profile and shouldn't be enabled
manually, right?
 



Could you double check the symlink /etc/make.profile.  AFAIK, you want 
it to point to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0.


But read this first before changing anything:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1chap=1

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Richard Fish wrote:


Jules Colding wrote:


Hmm... I am seeing (-multilib) when doing the emerge of gcc and
binutils, so multilib is disabled by my profile and shouldn't be enabled
manually, right?
 



Could you double check the symlink /etc/make.profile.  AFAIK, you want 
it to point to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0.


But read this first before changing anything:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1chap=1



Um, nevermind.  Going back to your original post:

Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2005.0, gcc-3.4.3, 
glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64)


But maybe you can try to follow their by hand instructions for to make 
sure that everything is sane for your profile.


I mean, multilib should be enabled by default, unless you are actually 
linked to the /no-multilib profile...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 15:51 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Jules Colding wrote:
 
 Hmm... I am seeing (-multilib) when doing the emerge of gcc and
 binutils, so multilib is disabled by my profile and shouldn't be enabled
 manually, right?
   
 
 
 Could you double check the symlink /etc/make.profile.  AFAIK, you want 
 it to point to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0.

It does:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls -l /etc/make.profile
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 50 Jul 19 20:22 /etc/make.profile - 
../usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0


 But read this first before changing anything:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1chap=1

Hmm... I am running 2005.0 (from stage1) and the only content of
2005.0/scripts is 2004.3-2005.0upgrade.sh so I guess that I shouldn't
need to upgrade anything?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Zac Medico

Jules Colding wrote:

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 15:20 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:


Jules Colding wrote:


Hmm... Among my USE flags is nptlonly. Might that be a problem?



Well, nptlonly seems to work for a lot of people, so I don't think that 
should be a problem.  I've only ever heard of it affecting old 
binary-only software.



I am seeing random crashes of Evolution. The backtrace originates, as
far I know, always in libpthread, so maybe this nptlonly is a bad idea
after all?



IMO that would be reading too much out of the a single segfault.  You certainly 
have some instability but it is most likely rooted elsewhere.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 15:58 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Richard Fish wrote:
  Could you double check the symlink /etc/make.profile.  AFAIK, you want 
  it to point to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0.
 
  But read this first before changing anything:
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1chap=1
 
 
 Um, nevermind.  Going back to your original post:
 
 Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2005.0, gcc-3.4.3, 
 glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64)
 
 But maybe you can try to follow their by hand instructions for to make 
 sure that everything is sane for your profile.
 
 I mean, multilib should be enabled by default, unless you are actually 
 linked to the /no-multilib profile...

I am not, but emerge insists on (-multilib). I don't think the manual
method will work either:

### snip #
omc-2 ~ # USE=multilib emerge -va gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3-r1  (-altivec) -bootstrap -boundschecking 
-build +fortran -gcj +gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) 
+nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -static 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no

Quitting.
### snip #

The existence of lib32 indicates multilib capabilities, right? I do got
both /usr/lib64 and /usr/lib32.

I think that I will let memtest86+ run overnight and see if it finds
something.

Thanks,
  jules


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[gentoo-user] transcode convertion

2005-07-24 Thread Luigi Pinna
Hello!
I have a problem to convert a video.
I need to use it in a DVD.
I create an animation with GIMP and exported as .fli file and after with 
mencoder as a mpeg file but it was no right for dvdauthor.
Now I tried to convert it with transcode (that has a DVD option -F 8) 
but it doesn't find the plug-in.
This is the output:

transcode -F 8 -y mpeg -i intro.mpeg -o prova
transcode v0.6.14 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. 
Bitterberg
[transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms
[transcode] auto-probing source intro.mpeg (ok)
[transcode] V: import format| MPEG-2  (V=vob|A=vob)
[transcode] V: AV demux/sync| (1) sync AV at initial MPEG sequence
[transcode] V: import frame | 720x576  1.25:1  encoded @ 4:3
[transcode] V: bits/pixel   | 0.174
[transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,3
[transcode] V: Y'CbCr   | YV12/I420
[transcode] A: import format| 0x50MPEG layer-2 [44100,16,2]  128 
kbps
[transcode] A: export format| 0x50MPEG layer-2 [44100,16,2]  128 
kbps
[transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3
[transcode] A: bytes per frame  | 7056 (7056.00)
[transcode] A: adjustment   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tc_memcpy: using libc for memcpy
[transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576
[import_vob.so] v0.6.0 (2003-10-02) (video) MPEG-2 | (audio) 
MPEG/AC3/PCM | (subtitle)
[transcode] warning : /usr/lib64/transcode/export_mpeg.so: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
[transcode] warning : (dl_loader.c) loading 
/usr/lib64/transcode/export_mpeg.so failed
[transcode] warning : (encoder.c) loading audio export module failed
[transcode] warning : failed to init export modules
[transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed

This is the transcode's FLAGS:
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r2  (-3dnow) +X +a52 
(-altivec) +avi (-divx4linux) +dv +dvdread +encode +fame +gtk 
+imagemagick +jpeg +lzo +mjpeg (-mmx) +mpeg -network +ogg (-pvm) 
+quicktime +sdl (-sse) (-sse2) +theora +truetype +v4l +vorbis +xml2 
+xvid
What can I do?
Or what can I do to export from GIMP in the format?
Thanks,
Luigi

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Rumen Yotov
Jules Colding wrote:

On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 15:58 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
  

Richard Fish wrote:


Could you double check the symlink /etc/make.profile.  AFAIK, you want 
it to point to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0.

But read this first before changing anything:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1chap=1

  

Um, nevermind.  Going back to your original post:

Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2005.0, gcc-3.4.3, 
glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64)

But maybe you can try to follow their by hand instructions for to make 
sure that everything is sane for your profile.

I mean, multilib should be enabled by default, unless you are actually 
linked to the /no-multilib profile...



I am not, but emerge insists on (-multilib). I don't think the manual
method will work either:

### snip #
omc-2 ~ # USE=multilib emerge -va gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3-r1  (-altivec) -bootstrap -boundschecking 
-build +fortran -gcj +gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) 
+nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -static 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no

Quitting.
### snip #

The existence of lib32 indicates multilib capabilities, right? I do got
both /usr/lib64 and /usr/lib32.

I think that I will let memtest86+ run overnight and see if it finds
something.

Thanks,
  jules


  

Hi,
No experience with 64-bits, but a USE-flag in () means not supported by
the profile. Have you changed profiles?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 17:43 +0300, Rumen Yotov wrote:
 No experience with 64-bits, but a USE-flag in () means not supported by
 the profile. Have you changed profiles?

No.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2 (AMD64 users please help)

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Jules Colding wrote:


On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 15:58 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 


Richard Fish wrote:
   

Could you double check the symlink /etc/make.profile.  AFAIK, you want 
it to point to /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/amd64/2005.0.


But read this first before changing anything:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/amd64/howtos/index.xml?part=1chap=1

 


Um, nevermind.  Going back to your original post:

Portage 2.0.51.22-r2 (default-linux/amd64/2005.0, gcc-3.4.3, 
glibc-2.3.5-r0, 2.6.12-gentoo-r6 x86_64)


But maybe you can try to follow their by hand instructions for to make 
sure that everything is sane for your profile.


I mean, multilib should be enabled by default, unless you are actually 
linked to the /no-multilib profile...
   



I am not, but emerge insists on (-multilib). I don't think the manual
method will work either:

### snip #
omc-2 ~ # USE=multilib emerge -va gcc

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-3.4.3-r1  (-altivec) -bootstrap -boundschecking 
-build +fortran -gcj +gtk -hardened -ip28 (-multilib) -multislot (-n32) (-n64) 
+nls -nocxx -nopie -nossp -objc -static 0 kB

Total size of downloads: 0 kB

Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no

Quitting.
### snip #

The existence of lib32 indicates multilib capabilities, right? I do got
both /usr/lib64 and /usr/lib32.

 



How about /emul/linux/x86/lib?

Argh, I don't get it.  /u/p/p/default-linux/amd64/2005.0/use.mask 
contains multilib, but with a comment stating it is forced on when 
MULTILIB_ABIS is defined, and make.defaults has MULTILIB_ABIS=x86 amd64.


Can any AMD64 users shed some light on this please?

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] transcode convertion

2005-07-24 Thread Zac Medico

Luigi Pinna wrote:

Hello!
I have a problem to convert a video.
I need to use it in a DVD.
I create an animation with GIMP and exported as .fli file and after with 
mencoder as a mpeg file but it was no right for dvdauthor.
Now I tried to convert it with transcode (that has a DVD option -F 8) 
but it doesn't find the plug-in.

This is the output:

transcode -F 8 -y mpeg -i intro.mpeg -o prova
transcode v0.6.14 (C) 2001-2003 Thomas Oestreich, 2003-2004 T. 
Bitterberg

[transcode] (probe) suggested AV correction -D 0 (0 ms) | AV 0 ms | 0 ms
[transcode] auto-probing source intro.mpeg (ok)
[transcode] V: import format| MPEG-2  (V=vob|A=vob)
[transcode] V: AV demux/sync| (1) sync AV at initial MPEG sequence
[transcode] V: import frame | 720x576  1.25:1  encoded @ 4:3
[transcode] V: bits/pixel   | 0.174
[transcode] V: decoding fps,frc | 25.000,3
[transcode] V: Y'CbCr   | YV12/I420
[transcode] A: import format| 0x50MPEG layer-2 [44100,16,2]  128 
kbps
[transcode] A: export format| 0x50MPEG layer-2 [44100,16,2]  128 
kbps

[transcode] V: encoding fps,frc | 25.000,3
[transcode] A: bytes per frame  | 7056 (7056.00)
[transcode] A: adjustment   | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
tc_memcpy: using libc for memcpy
[transcode] V: video buffer | 10 @ 720x576
[import_vob.so] v0.6.0 (2003-10-02) (video) MPEG-2 | (audio) 
MPEG/AC3/PCM | (subtitle)
[transcode] warning : /usr/lib64/transcode/export_mpeg.so: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
[transcode] warning : (dl_loader.c) loading 
/usr/lib64/transcode/export_mpeg.so failed

[transcode] warning : (encoder.c) loading audio export module failed
[transcode] warning : failed to init export modules
[transcode] critical: plug-in initialization failed

This is the transcode's FLAGS:
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/transcode-0.6.14-r2  (-3dnow) +X +a52 
(-altivec) +avi (-divx4linux) +dv +dvdread +encode +fame +gtk 
+imagemagick +jpeg +lzo +mjpeg (-mmx) +mpeg -network +ogg (-pvm) 
+quicktime +sdl (-sse) (-sse2) +theora +truetype +v4l +vorbis +xml2 
+xvid

What can I do?
Or what can I do to export from GIMP in the format?
Thanks,
Luigi



I'm not sure about that specific library problem you're having but I may have a 
solution for you.  I've noticed that dvdauthor is quite picky about the format 
of the mpeg files that you give it.  In my case, I used ffmpeg to convert an 
avi to mpg but then dvdauthor did not like it.  I found a workaround though.  I 
used tccat and tcextract to demux the mpg into separate audio/video files and 
then I remuxed them with mplex.

Here is the relevant section from my script:

set -x -e
ffmpeg -i ${INPUT_AVI_FILE} -vcodec mpeg2video -b 1500 -r ntsc -s 352x240 -aspect 4:3 
-acodec mp2 -ar 48000 -ac 1 ${TEMP_VOB_FILE}
tccat -i ${TEMP_VOB_FILE} | tcextract -x mpeg2 -t vob -a video_track  
${TEMP_M2V_FILE}
tccat -i ${TEMP_VOB_FILE} | tcextract -x mp2 -t vob -a audio_track  
${TEMP_MPA_FILE}
rm -f ${TEMP_VOB_FILE}
mplex -f 8 -o ${OUTPUT_MPG_FILE} ${TEMP_M2V_FILE} ${TEM   ffmpeg -i 
${INPUT_AVI_FILE} -vcodec mpeg2video -b 1500 -r ntsc -s 352x240 -aspect 4:3 -acodec mp2 -ar 48000 -ac 1 
${TEMP_VOB_FILE}
tccat -i ${TEMP_VOB_FILE} | tcextract -x mpeg2 -t vob -a video_track  
${TEMP_M2V_FILE}
tccat -i ${TEMP_VOB_FILE} | tcextract -x mp2 -t vob -a audio_track  
${TEMP_MPA_FILE}
rm ${TEMP_VOB_FILE}
mplex -f 8 -o ${OUTPUT_MPG_FILE} ${TEMP_M2V_FILE} ${TEMP_MPA_FILE}

It's not really elegant but it worked.  Note that I used mp2 because I ran into 
some troubles with some avi files and the ac3 encoder.  However, ac3 worked 
fine with most files.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2

2005-07-24 Thread neil

Jules Colding wrote:


Hmm... Among my USE flags is nptlonly. Might that be a problem?



I don't think so as I have that too.


Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beep holding Shift

2005-07-24 Thread David Corbin
On Sunday 24 July 2005 08:58 am, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
 David Corbin wrote:
  On Saturday 23 July 2005 10:11 pm, Michal Pronay wrote:
   Sound like accessibility support to me. Try to take a look in
   your kde control panel - Regional  Accessibility -
   Accessibility.
 
  Well, that allows me to turn off the System Bell, but I'm curious
  as to why it's beeping in the first place.

 Go to the Keyboard tab there, press Shift-F1, and click on
 Activation gestures.  You will see it wasn't Ctrl but Shift that
 beeps after 8 seconds.  You may want to read the relevant section
 in the Help Center.

You're right of course, it was the Shift key.  

However, my help center documentation doesn't have any information on 
Activation Gestures, and worse, even if I uncheck Use gestures for 
activating the above features and APPLY, it still beeps.

Furthermore, even though I've unchecked Use System Bell, I get an audible 
bell and no visible bell (despite having checked that).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Stroller


On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:44 am, Greg Bur wrote:


On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

My other laptop has a nice atheros wireless card, very painless to set
up. I dont know what
chipsets are on what cards, so perhaps you could give me a model name
and brand? I really
just want to be able to goto futureshop and pick one up.. :)
Thank you for understanding my dumbness. :)
Ian



http://tinyurl.com/9l9wl


AIRSTATION 11MBPS WIRELESS PCMCIA LAPTOP CARD PC/MAC


That should work well for you ;)  I noticed on a previous page that
they offer an 802.11g card for $30 but I'm not sure about driver
compatibility.


The Macintosh-compatible 802.11g card uses the same Broadcom chipset as 
Apple's Airport Extreme products - I know, because I sold three of 
these cards to another Mac-reseller last week. I believe that there are 
no open-source drivers for this chipset, and have seen NDISwrapper 
referred to in many forums articles relating to it.


This is not a comment on the 802.11b 11MBPS card that your link points 
to - for all I know that may use the excellently-supported Prism 
chipset.


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Stroller


On Jul 24, 2005, at 1:49 am, Ian K wrote:


I have an older laptop that I want to add to my network,
(its a 802.11B one) and I was wondering what brands/models
would work the best under Linux. Im fairly flexible, and would
really not like to tinker with too many drivers. Any good ideas?


Currently available are cards using the Ralink chipset, as this 
manufacturer has open-sourced their own drivers and there is a strong 
GPL project that will (I believe) eventually join the main kernel tree.


I have tested CNet cards using this chipset, and indeed I supply them 
to Windows customers as they're very good value, however I prefer the 
Belkin under Linux, as they just seem to behave slightly better. The 
difference is nearly intangible, but the CNet cards would sometimes not 
start properly when called by the /etc/init.d scripts, only to work 
perfectly when restarted manually. I could not make any rhyme nor 
reason of this, although I expect they'll work perfectly in a year or 
two when the rt2500 driver is more mature.


Some others have suggested finding a supplier with a liberal returns 
policy and have suggested that no-one can guarantee that a model will 
have a specific chipset. I'm associated with the famous UK cartoon IT 
consultant, Network Ned, and can vouch that he does indeed test every 
batch of wireless cards that he receives for Linux compatibility. He 
offers these on a guaranteed to work with Linux basis - 
http://networkned.co.uk/hardware.php - but is aware that his website 
isn't CSS-compliant, thankyouverymuch.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Stephan Grein
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Stroller wrote:


 On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:44 am, Greg Bur wrote:

 On 7/23/05, Ian K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 My other laptop has a nice atheros wireless card, very painless
 to set up. I dont know what chipsets are on what cards, so
 perhaps you could give me a model name and brand? I really just
 want to be able to goto futureshop and pick one up.. :) Thank
 you for understanding my dumbness. :) Ian


 http://tinyurl.com/9l9wl


 AIRSTATION 11MBPS WIRELESS PCMCIA LAPTOP CARD PC/MAC

 That should work well for you ;) I noticed on a previous page
 that they offer an 802.11g card for $30 but I'm not sure about
 driver compatibility.


 The Macintosh-compatible 802.11g card uses the same Broadcom
 chipset as Apple's Airport Extreme products - I know, because I
 sold three of these cards to another Mac-reseller last week. I
 believe that there are no open-source drivers for this chipset, and
 have seen NDISwrapper referred to in many forums articles relating
 to it.

 This is not a comment on the 802.11b 11MBPS card that your link
 points to - for all I know that may use the excellently-supported
 Prism chipset.

 Stroller.

Get an Atheros or Prism54 based chipset, then all will be good. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
Ok, some news:

1. Knoppix recognize the mouse as an ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse
and I cannot get it working even with this livecd!!!

2. I think the problem is with the 2.6.*  kernels: it seems mouse is
always recognized, but the optical lens shuts down as soon  as i begin
moving it...



On 7/24/05, Matt Randolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Did you get the mouse working under M$ on this computer or a different
 one?  If you have never gotten it to work on this computer, you might
 try switching the mouse and keyboard anyway... regardless of what the
 little labels say.
 

No, on this computer all was good with M$... apart form my
consciousness and my pride!!! ;)

Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

2005-07-24 Thread Stroller


On Jul 24, 2005, at 6:23 pm, C.Beamer wrote:


hda1 is DOS
hda2 is /boot
hda3 is swap
hda4 is my extended partition
hda5 is /root

The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:

default 0
timeout 30

splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6

root (hda0, 1)
kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc 
ramdisk=8192

real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6


I haven't tried booting with a RAM disk, so I can't comment on the 
other lines, but in the first there should be no space after the comma. 
IE:

   root (hda0,1)

as you've done correctly below:


title=DOS
root (hda0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1




...
Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?


I always do so by booting from the Gentoo LiveCD, mounting /dev/hda2 to 
/mount/gentoo, editing grub.conf with `nano` and then rebooting. You 
can experiment amply like this until you get it right.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2 (AMD64 users please help)

2005-07-24 Thread Bob Sanders
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:06:49 +0200
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
 Argh, I don't get it.  /u/p/p/default-linux/amd64/2005.0/use.mask 
 contains multilib, but with a comment stating it is forced on when 
 MULTILIB_ABIS is defined, and make.defaults has MULTILIB_ABIS=x86 amd64.
 
 Can any AMD64 users shed some light on this please?
 

multilib can be, or it used to be able to, turned off so that only 64-bit 
versions of the
libs get built.

Normally, it should be turned on and set in the USE string, for most folks on a 
x86_64
platform.  But, on a system without multilib, turning it on means that, as a 
minimum an -

emerge -uDav --newuse system

will need to be performed to rebuild gcc, glibc and all the base system libs so 
that the following
get created - 

/lib64
/lib32
/usr/lib32
/usr/lib64

and a few other items.

Bob
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Greg Bur
On 7/24/05, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 On Jul 24, 2005, at 8:44 am, Greg Bur wrote:
 

 The Macintosh-compatible 802.11g card uses the same Broadcom chipset as
 Apple's Airport Extreme products - I know, because I sold three of
 these cards to another Mac-reseller last week. I believe that there are
 no open-source drivers for this chipset, and have seen NDISwrapper
 referred to in many forums articles relating to it.

That answers my question of compatibility. 
 
 This is not a comment on the 802.11b 11MBPS card that your link points
 to - for all I know that may use the excellently-supported Prism
 chipset.

I'm pretty sure it uses a supported chipset but I can't help but
wonder if maybe Buffalo changed horses somewhere along the line and is
now using Broadcom chipsets in all of their PC Cards.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

2005-07-24 Thread Martins Steinbergs
remove space in root (hda0, 1)

my kernel line also has devfs=nomount  but probably this isnt needed if using 
latest genkernel, dont know.

Martins


On Sunday 24 July 2005 20:23, C.Beamer wrote:
 Hi All,

 After getting side-tracked by a power outage in the middle of a Gentoo
 install a couple of weeks ago, I finally got back to doing a Gentoo
 install trial run.

 All seemed to go well.  When I rebooted I got the menu with the two
 selections listed (Gentoo and DOS).  The computer will boot into DOS
 okay, but I can't get it to boot into Gentoo.  Ergo, I think the grub
 install is fine, but I made an error in my grub.conf file.

 Since I'm only moderately savvy about editing configuration files, I
 relied on the examples in the Gentoo Handbook.

 Details are as follows:

 I have a dual boot system:

 hda1 is DOS
 hda2 is /boot
 hda3 is swap
 hda4 is my extended partition
 hda5 is /root

 The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:

 default 0
 timeout 30

 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6

 root (hda0, 1)
 kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
 real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
 initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6

 title=DOS
 root (hda0,0)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1

 I put the initrd line in the grub.conf file even though when I ran the
 command

 'ls /boot/kernel* /boot/initrd*'

 as instructed in the Handbook, I got told that there was no initrdfile.

 Have I missed something or done something wrong?

 Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?

 I tried selecting the Gentoo line from the menu and pressing 'e' to
 edit, but no matter what changes I made, I still get an error message
 when I try to boot into Gentoo that says:

 Error 15:  File not found

 This displays immediatedly after the line

 kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
 real_root=/dev/hda5 udev

 Any assistance would be appreciated.  And please remember, I am not
 stupid, but I'm not a computer science grad.  I've been running Linux at
 home for about 3 years and dabbling with it for a couple of years before
 that, but I've always used Redhat or Fedora.  However, I'm finding that
 with each release of Fedora, more quirks appear.  Things that I was
 able to do with no problem in a previous release, I now can't do without
 letting some blood.  Hence, I wanted to try Gentoo because I can
 install the software from source using emerge.  This will be a learning
 curve for me, but I can conquer it - I have come a long way since a
 friend first mentioned Linux to me and I asked what it was!

 Anyway, the point of the previous paragraph is to ask that complete
 details be stated for any help that is provided.  And if you tell me
 that I screwed up royally and have to start all over, that's okay.
 That's what this exercise was for - to learn what I needed to know
 before installing Gentoo on a production system.

 BTW, I did a Stage 3 install.  Since it was my first time and I don't
 know anything about optimizations, I didn't want to get in over my
 head.  :-)

 Thanks in advance for any assistance.

 Respectfully,

 Colleen
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't emerge mozilla-firefox-1.0.6-r2 (AMD64 users please help)

2005-07-24 Thread Jules Colding
On Sun, 2005-07-24 at 11:10 -0700, Bob Sanders wrote:
 On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 17:06:49 +0200
 Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  
  Argh, I don't get it.  /u/p/p/default-linux/amd64/2005.0/use.mask 
  contains multilib, but with a comment stating it is forced on when 
  MULTILIB_ABIS is defined, and make.defaults has MULTILIB_ABIS=x86 amd64.
  
  Can any AMD64 users shed some light on this please?
  
 
 multilib can be, or it used to be able to, turned off so that only 64-bit 
 versions of the
 libs get built.
 
 Normally, it should be turned on and set in the USE string, for most folks on 
 a x86_64
 platform.  But, on a system without multilib, turning it on means that, as a 
 minimum an -
 
   emerge -uDav --newuse system
 
 will need to be performed to rebuild gcc, glibc and all the base system libs 
 so that the following
 get created - 
 
   /lib64
   /lib32
   /usr/lib32
   /usr/lib64

All of those are present on my system, but I am still seeing
(-multilib) when I do e.g. emerge -va glibc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Martins Steinbergs wrote:


remove space in root (hda0, 1)

 



Actually, that should be (hd0,1), like you have for the splashimage.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED - CONCLUSION] - was 1.) Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interupt handler

2005-07-24 Thread Joseph
Summary: 
For those who didn't follow up the thread, I was investigating an error
message:
Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler.  where
the computer comes to a complete freeze, the only thing that works is
the power switch.

The error appears only under heavy load like compiling.  This is a new
box Asus A8V, AMD64, 1Gb or RAM (PC3200 DDR400 Kingston RAM)  and Sata
200Gb
I was able to find out that Aiee is a hardware error, Intel has a nice
article about it:
http://resource.intel.com/telecom/support/tnotes/tnbyos/2000/tn062.htm

So following this lead I was looking and trying to pin-point hardware
error.
It took me one week to investigate trying different solutions like:

1.) I Run memtest86 first time, got some errors, so I run the same test
on individual sticks (I have 2 x 512Mb), the individual sticks passed
the test without errors.
I exchanged the sticks between two slots and run the memtest86 again
overnight.  The test completed 17-passes without any error.
So I excluded Memory as a culprit. 

2.) I disabled Network controller on the motherboard and installed
another
one on PCI bus - this eliminated possible IRQ conflict, the Sata Drive
on channel-0 was sharing an IRQ with Network controller.
But it didn't help.

3.) I removed the heatsink, cleaned it with 99% isopropyl alcohol and
applied a
thin layer of new heatsink grease.
Did not help.  But I still wanted to try  as per Robert C. suggestion:
some arctic silver compound instead. It's good for a 3-5C. drop from
the regular stuff.  
Anyhow, I opened the box cover, and the temp. of the CPU dropped from
about 40C to about 35C / 36C so I decided to follow some other leads
first.

4.) I removed SATA drive and tried to install Gentoo on
standard IDE drive; this would eliminate SCSI problem and/or buggy
driver.
Did not help, I haven't had a chance to do a complete base installation
when I got the same error message:
Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler.  

I got a lead from Francesco T.
''Sometimes memtest doesn't stress enough the hardware, see:
http://people.redhat.com/dledford/memtest.html 
...

So it made me think again about the memory. I swapped the two sticks
with the two sticks from one of my Backup Server PC2100 2x512Mb

So I downloaded some linux source  kernel but it needs to be modified as
the Red Hat memtest.sh is looking for linux top-level directory not
some linux-2.6.-something. 
Instead of modifying the script it is easier to just modify the
kernel-source (as per Richard F help):
tar -xzvf linux.tar.gz
mv linux-* linux
tar -czvf linux.tar.gz linux

and one more thing, change the first line of the script:
 #!/bin/bash2
to:
 #!/bin/bash

I run the RedHad memory test on my main server (different box 20-passes
standard script setup) and it went just fine.  It finished with an empty
line no error as weg-page suggest:
---quote
How do you know if your memory passed?

Very simple. If you run that script from the command line on your
computer and it completes without ever spewing a single message onto
your screen, then you passed. If you get messages from diff about
differences between files or any other anomolies such as that, then you
failed.
---end quote-

I run some compiling and did not receive any errors or kernel panic I
did run the RedHat memory test on the memory stick from my backup server
and it finished without spilling a single error message.

So, at this point I know the problem is the memory stick
I put back the original memory stick, the Sata Drive, and used the on
board Network controller.
I tried to run the RedHad memtest.sh it freeze with the same kernel
panic:
Kernel panic - not syncing: Aiee, killing interrupt handler.

It appears that the test only made into fourth-round when it freeze.
It did not spill any message into the screen it just freeze with the
kernel panic as always.  So I wasn't 100% sure that this would qualify
as failed memory test: 
...f you get messages from diff about differences between files or any
other anomolies such as that, then you failed.
But I suppose, it would qualify, you be the judge.

Anyhow, I replaced the pair of stick with two new once run memtest.sh
30-passes it passed without spilling single error on the the line,
clean finish.
I was able to emerge kde-meta and it finished without a single hiccup.

Thank you ALL for all your suggestions help, it appears another mystery
has been solved.
So my conclusion: Do not rely on memtest86  

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On Sat, 2005-07-23 at 20:23 +0200, Richard Fish wrote:
 Joseph wrote:
 
 [...]
 
 
 -bash: ./memtest.sh: /bin/bash2: bad interpreter: No such file or
 directory
 
 On both boxes the I have bash-3.0 so what is it looking for?
   
 
 Correct the first line of the script from #!/bin/bash2 to 
 #!/bin/bash and everything will be fine.
 
 Ciao
 Francesco
 
 
 
 Thank you, yes that is what I did as soon as I posted the message.
 Though it puzzle me whey it runs on my main server and not on 

Re: [gentoo-user] Recommend me a good PCMCIA wireless network card

2005-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:00:27 +0100, Stroller wrote:

 The Macintosh-compatible 802.11g card uses the same Broadcom chipset as 
 Apple's Airport Extreme products - I know, because I sold three of 
 these cards to another Mac-reseller last week. I believe that there are 
 no open-source drivers for this chipset, and have seen NDISwrapper 
 referred to in many forums articles relating to it.

The driver for the Broadcom chip in the Airport Extreme card is indeed
closed source. You can use it with ndiswrapper on x86, but not in an
Apple laptop.

 This is not a comment on the 802.11b 11MBPS card that your link points 
 to - for all I know that may use the excellently-supported Prism 
 chipset.

The Airport card uses a different chipset from the Airport extreme, one
for which an open source driver is available.


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Mark Shields
I recently got my home server back up and running after the power
supply went out.  I put some more memory in it, and it shows up fine
as 1048576 KB (1 gigabyte).  Gentoo, however, is only showing it as
904336 KB (883.14 MB) .  I'm curious as to why it's not detecting
140.86 MB.  Originally the server had a 512mb stick of generic PC2700
memory; I put 2 sticks of 256 MB (Mushkin, PC3200).  The FSB is set to
133 mhz and cpu/mem ratio is set 1:1 (Athlon XP 2400+ for the
processor).  It's running in a dual channel memory config.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:   904336 kB
MemFree: 91224 kB

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

2005-07-24 Thread C.Beamer
Hi,

Thanks all for noticing the typo.  However, this was a typo in the
e-mail, not in the boot.conf file.  :-)

Regards,

Colleen

Richard Fish wrote:

 Martins Steinbergs wrote:

 remove space in root (hda0, 1)




 Actually, that should be (hd0,1), like you have for the
 splashimage.

 -Richard


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Colin


On Jul 24, 2005, at 3:46 PM, Mark Shields wrote:


I recently got my home server back up and running after the power
supply went out.  I put some more memory in it, and it shows up fine
as 1048576 KB (1 gigabyte).  Gentoo, however, is only showing it as
904336 KB (883.14 MB) .  I'm curious as to why it's not detecting
140.86 MB.  Originally the server had a 512mb stick of generic PC2700
memory; I put 2 sticks of 256 MB (Mushkin, PC3200).  The FSB is set to
133 mhz and cpu/mem ratio is set 1:1 (Athlon XP 2400+ for the
processor).  It's running in a dual channel memory config.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:   904336 kB
MemFree: 91224 kB

Any ideas?


Hm, now this is a toughie.  Barring any BIOS misconfigurations, I'd  
say that you might have a defective stick of RAM.  Try booting  
another OS and see if it can detect the full gigabyte;  if it happens  
then it's probably a hardware problem, not a Gentoo issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Kai Ole Schultz
On Sunday 24 07 2005 21:46 Mark Shields wrote:
 I put some more memory in it, and it shows up fine
 as 1048576 KB (1 gigabyte).  Gentoo, however, is only showing it as
 904336 KB (883.14 MB) .

Did you enable high Memory Support in your kernel?

HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Rumen Yotov
Mark Shields wrote:

I recently got my home server back up and running after the power
supply went out. I put some more memory in it, and it shows up fine
as 1048576 KB (1 gigabyte). Gentoo, however, is only showing it as
904336 KB (883.14 MB) . I'm curious as to why it's not detecting
140.86 MB. Originally the server had a 512mb stick of generic PC2700
memory; I put 2 sticks of 256 MB (Mushkin, PC3200). The FSB is set to
133 mhz and cpu/mem ratio is set 1:1 (Athlon XP 2400+ for the
processor). It's running in a dual channel memory config.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal: 904336 kB
MemFree: 91224 kB

Any ideas?

Hi,
There's an option in kernel-config to enable the remaining memory you
have. Check it.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:46:10 -0400, Mark Shields wrote:

 I recently got my home server back up and running after the power
 supply went out.  I put some more memory in it, and it shows up fine
 as 1048576 KB (1 gigabyte).  Gentoo, however, is only showing it as
 904336 KB (883.14 MB) . 

You need to set CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G=y in your kernel config.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Help

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

C.Beamer wrote:


Hi,

Thanks all for noticing the typo.  However, this was a typo in the
e-mail, not in the boot.conf file.  :-)

 



So, what does you actual boot.conf file contain? (hd0,1) or (hda0,1)?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Mark Shields
No I do not, as I was under the impression it's not required unless
you have at least 4gb (sorry for the poor formatting, copying from
putty/terminal to a text box doesn't format very well):

Linux Kernel v2.6.11-gentoo-r6 Configuration
 ──


 ┌─── 
High Memory Support
 ┐
 │  Use the arrow keys to navigate this window or press the hotkey of │
 │  the item you wish to select followed by the SPACE BAR. Press│
 │  ? for additional information about this option. │
 │ ┌┐ │
 │ │(X) off │ │
 │ │( ) 4GB │ │
 │ │( ) 64GB│ │
 │ ││ │
 │ ││ │
 │ ││ │
 │ └┘ │
 ├┤
 │   Select   Help│
 └┘

All 3 memory sticks appear fine.  The motherboard is an A7N8X Deluxe,
my main PC has an A7N8X-E Deluxe; both of them are capable of using
3gb of memory, 1gb per stick (3 slots for memory).  The 2 x 256 mb
sticks came from my main PC which I upgraded with 2 x 512mb sticks.
The 512mb stick has been in use by the server for 4 months. I could
understand if it was possible that they're incompatible, but then it
wouldn't show a gig of RAM when the PC shows the bios screen.
Regardless, I'll run memtest86 overnight to be sure.  I'll also see
what an ubuntu or knoppix livecd shows.





On 7/24/05, Kai Ole Schultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 24 07 2005 21:46 Mark Shields wrote:
  I put some more memory in it, and it shows up fine
  as 1048576 KB (1 gigabyte).  Gentoo, however, is only showing it as
  904336 KB (883.14 MB) .
 
 Did you enable high Memory Support in your kernel?
 
 HTH
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Jarry

Mark Shields wrote:

No I do not, as I was under the impression it's not required unless
you have at least 4gb (sorry for the poor formatting, copying from
putty/terminal to a text box doesn't format very well):


Actually, help says:

 CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM: 


 If you are compiling a kernel which will never run on a machine with
 more than 1 Gigabyte total physical RAM, answer off here

It looks to me, that up to 1GB (including) the answer should be off.
But maybe boundary condition is not correctly defined, and for exactly
1GB it is necessary to select CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM = 4GB...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Sunday 24 July 2005 22:21, Mark Shields wrote:
 No I do not, as I was under the impression it's not required unless
 you have at least 4gb (sorry for the poor formatting, copying from
 putty/terminal to a text box doesn't format very well):

well the -mm kernel does not have this option anymore, but IIRC you need to 
select 4G support to enable the rest of your memory. 

 Linux Kernel v2.6.11-gentoo-r6 Configuration
  ┌───
 High Memory Support
  ┐
  │  Use the arrow keys to navigate this window or press the hotkey of │
  │  the item you wish to select followed by the SPACE BAR. Press│
  │  ? for additional information about this option. │
  │ ┌┐ │
  │ │(X) off │ │
  │ │( ) 4GB │ │
  │ │( ) 64GB│ │
  │ ││ │
  │ ││ │
  │ ││ │
  │ └┘ │
  ├┤
  │   Select   Help│
  └┘

did you read the help asociated with each item?

 All 3 memory sticks appear fine.  The motherboard is an A7N8X Deluxe,
 my main PC has an A7N8X-E Deluxe; both of them are capable of using
 3gb of memory, 1gb per stick (3 slots for memory).  The 2 x 256 mb
 sticks came from my main PC which I upgraded with 2 x 512mb sticks.
 The 512mb stick has been in use by the server for 4 months. I could
 understand if it was possible that they're incompatible, but then it
 wouldn't show a gig of RAM when the PC shows the bios screen.
 Regardless, I'll run memtest86 overnight to be sure.  I'll also see
 what an ubuntu or knoppix livecd shows.

I'm sure you will not see any hardware failures, it has something todo with 
the split user/kernel that you only see ~800MB of ram.

enable highmem support for 4G and you will be able to use all of your memory.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Sven Köhler
 No I do not, as I was under the impression it's not required unless
 you have at least 4gb (sorry for the poor formatting, copying from
 putty/terminal to a text box doesn't format very well):
 
 Linux Kernel v2.6.11-gentoo-r6 Configuration
  
 ──
 
 
  ┌─── 
 High Memory Support
  ┐
  │  Use the arrow keys to navigate this window or press the hotkey of │
  │  the item you wish to select followed by the SPACE BAR. Press│
  │  ? for additional information about this option. │
  │ ┌┐ │
  │ │(X) off │ │
  │ │( ) 4GB │ │
  │ │( ) 64GB│ │
  │ ││ │
  │ ││ │
  │ ││ │
  │ └┘ │
  ├┤
  │   Select   Help│
  └┘

You definetly have to say 4GB here. The Linux Kernel (Gentoo is not
responsible for detecting your RAM) will otherwise not access all RAM
available. Usually, if you execute dmesg the first lines talks about
LOWMEM and HIGHMEM. On a machine with 1GB of RAM, it will usually read
like that:

750MB LOWMEM
150MB HIGHMEM

Using off will result in something like that:

750MB LOWMEM
0MB HIGHMEM

which is what you're experiencing.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Mark Shields
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1034284 kB
MemFree:953172 kB


Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.

On 7/24/05, Rudmer van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sunday 24 July 2005 22:21, Mark Shields wrote:
  No I do not, as I was under the impression it's not required unless
  you have at least 4gb (sorry for the poor formatting, copying from
  putty/terminal to a text box doesn't format very well):
 
 well the -mm kernel does not have this option anymore, but IIRC you need to
 select 4G support to enable the rest of your memory.
 
  Linux Kernel v2.6.11-gentoo-r6 Configuration
   ┌───
  High Memory Support
   ┐
   │  Use the arrow keys to navigate this window or press the hotkey of │
   │  the item you wish to select followed by the SPACE BAR. Press│
   │  ? for additional information about this option. │
   │ ┌┐ │
   │ │(X) off │ │
   │ │( ) 4GB │ │
   │ │( ) 64GB│ │
   │ ││ │
   │ ││ │
   │ ││ │
   │ └┘ │
   ├┤
   │   Select   Help│
   └┘
 
 did you read the help asociated with each item?
 
  All 3 memory sticks appear fine.  The motherboard is an A7N8X Deluxe,
  my main PC has an A7N8X-E Deluxe; both of them are capable of using
  3gb of memory, 1gb per stick (3 slots for memory).  The 2 x 256 mb
  sticks came from my main PC which I upgraded with 2 x 512mb sticks.
  The 512mb stick has been in use by the server for 4 months. I could
  understand if it was possible that they're incompatible, but then it
  wouldn't show a gig of RAM when the PC shows the bios screen.
  Regardless, I'll run memtest86 overnight to be sure.  I'll also see
  what an ubuntu or knoppix livecd shows.
 
 I'm sure you will not see any hardware failures, it has something todo with
 the split user/kernel that you only see ~800MB of ram.
 
 enable highmem support for 4G and you will be able to use all of your memory.
 
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On Jul 24 15:46, Mark Shields (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 Any ideas?

All the comments about enabling 4G highmem are correct - the kernel can't 
address a full gig without it.  However, enabling this slightly slows 
down your memory, and some people choose to keep it off for speed unless 
they're using the full gig.  Another option, better imho, is to use a 
kernel with the 1g_lowmem patch (originally from -ck patchset) or to 
patch it in yourself, which enables exactly 1 gig of memory at full 
speed.

The patch for kernel 2.6.12 is available here:
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/2.6.12/2.6.12-ck3/patches/1g_lowmem1_i386.diff
If you need it for a different kernel version, start here:
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/
Tom


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Re: [gentoo-user] Beep holding Shift

2005-07-24 Thread Benno Schulenberg
David Corbin wrote:
 However, my help center documentation doesn't have any
 information on Activation Gestures,

Indeed, it doesn't here either.  Time for a doc-patch?  :)

 and worse, even if I 
 uncheck Use gestures for activating the above features and
 APPLY, it still beeps.

Hmm, sounds like this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97425
What version of KDE are you using now?  Here 3.4.1.

 Furthermore, even though I've unchecked Use System Bell, I get
 an audible bell and no visible bell (despite having checked
 that).

This all works fine here, in every combination: beep, song, flash.  
And I can disable all that too.

But holding Shift for eight seconds doesn't actually enable Slow 
keys, also there is no confirmation dialog (although it is ticked). 
Pressing Shift five times _does_ activate Sticky keys (and it asks 
first when ticked). Hmm, there is definitely something wrong with 
these Accessibility things.

Maybe kcmaccessibilty depends on extra things, other split ebuilds, 
some of which I've installed but you don't?

$ grep kde /var/lib/portage/world | sort
kde-base/kaddressbook
kde-base/kappfinder
kde-base/kate
kde-base/kbabel
kde-base/kde-i18n
kde-base/kdebase-startkde
kde-base/kdelibs
kde-base/khelpcenter
kde-base/khexedit
kde-base/khotkeys
kde-base/kmail
kde-base/kmenuedit
kde-base/kmix
kde-base/konqueror
kde-base/konsole
kde-base/kopete
kde-base/kpat
kde-base/kpdf
kde-base/ksnapshot
kde-base/kstart
kde-base/ksysguard
kde-base/kuickshow
kde-base/kwalletmanager
kde-base/kxkb
kde-misc/kdiff3
kde-misc/ksensors


And this is my ~/.kde/share/config/kaccessrc:

[Bell]
ArtsBell=true
ArtsBellFile=/usr/share/sounds/Borealis/Question.ogg
SystemBell=true
VisibleBell=true
VisibleBellColor=255,0,0
VisibleBellInvert=true
VisibleBellPause=200

[Keyboard]
BounceKeys=false
BounceKeysDelay=500
GestureConfirmation=true
Gestures=true
SlowKeys=false
SlowKeysDelay=500
StickyKeys=false
StickyKeysLatch=true

[Mouse]
MKCurve=0
MKDelay=160
MKInterval=5
MKMaxSpeed=500
MKTimeToMax=1000
MouseKeys=false


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Richard Fish

Mark Shields wrote:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1034284 kB
MemFree:953172 kB


Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.
 



I am pretty sure this is actually correct, and depends upon your BIOS 
options.  All of those cache this or that ROM into memory options eat 
some some ram.  You can disable those to try and get some more memory, 
but your system performance will probably suffer overall.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Colin


On Jul 24, 2005, at 5:04 PM, Richard Fish wrote:


Mark Shields wrote:



[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1034284 kB
MemFree:953172 kB


Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.




I am pretty sure this is actually correct, and depends upon your  
BIOS options.  All of those cache this or that ROM into memory  
options eat some some ram.  You can disable those to try and get  
some more memory, but your system performance will probably suffer  
overall.


Modern operating system like Linux 2.6 and WinXP bypass the BIOS  
after the initial bootup, so caching the system/video BIOSes is just  
a waste of memory if you're using Gentoo.  Caching video RAM was nice  
back in the days of ISA video cards, but with PCI/AGP/PCI-X video  
cards, shut off that option.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Mark Shields
I'm fairly sure those options are disabled by default (I think).  No
way to check from my work though (ssh-enabled BIOS, or BIOS
configurable from linux, would be nice).

On 7/24/05, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip

 Modern operating system like Linux 2.6 and WinXP bypass the BIOS
 after the initial bootup, so caching the system/video BIOSes is just
 a waste of memory if you're using Gentoo.  Caching video RAM was nice
 back in the days of ISA video cards, but with PCI/AGP/PCI-X video
 cards, shut off that option.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Mark Shields
I'm fairly sure those options are disabled by default (I think).

On 7/24/05, Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 17 minutes ago, yes.
 
 On 7/24/05, Brett I. Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Did you build the kernel with high memory?
   snip
 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Sunday 24 July 2005 22:52, Mark Shields wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
 MemTotal:  1034284 kB
 MemFree:953172 kB

 Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.

that's better than here:

rudmer:~ # cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1026304 kB
MemFree: 79152 kB

that's almost 22MB...
and that's what Richard already said probably a BIOS setting which you 
shouldn't try to disable to get a couple of MB's more.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Tim Igoe


Rudmer van Dijk wrote:
 On Sunday 24 July 2005 22:52, Mark Shields wrote:
 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1034284 kB
MemFree:953172 kB

Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.
 

Could it be shared ram taken for an on board graphics card?

I know the one in this box used to be anywhere from 4MB to 64MB iirc -
replaced it with a seperate board now.

 
 that's better than here:
 
 rudmer:~ # cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
 MemTotal:  1026304 kB
 MemFree: 79152 kB
 
 that's almost 22MB...
 and that's what Richard already said probably a BIOS setting which you 
 shouldn't try to disable to get a couple of MB's more.
 
   Rudmer

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:38:24 +0200, Jarry wrote:

 Actually, help says:
 
   CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM: 
 
   If you are compiling a kernel which will never run on a machine with
   more than 1 Gigabyte total physical RAM, answer off here
 
 It looks to me, that up to 1GB (including) the answer should be off.
 But maybe boundary condition is not correctly defined, and for exactly
 1GB it is necessary to select CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM = 4GB...

Keep reading, the next paragraph says

   If the machine has between 1 and 4 Gigabytes physical RAM,
   then answer 4GB here.

The wording is ambiguous, both apply to a 1GB machine. The first should
say 1GB or more instead of more than 1GB.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Matt Nordhoff

Colin wrote:


On Jul 24, 2005, at 5:04 PM, Richard Fish wrote:


Mark Shields wrote:



[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1034284 kB
MemFree:953172 kB


Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.




I am pretty sure this is actually correct, and depends upon your BIOS 
options.  All of those cache this or that ROM into memory options 
eat some some ram.  You can disable those to try and get some more 
memory, but your system performance will probably suffer overall.


Modern operating system like Linux 2.6 and WinXP bypass the BIOS after 
the initial bootup, so caching the system/video BIOSes is just a waste 
of memory if you're using Gentoo.  Caching video RAM was nice back in 
the days of ISA video cards, but with PCI/AGP/PCI-X video cards, shut 
off that option.


Just to point out, PCI Express is abbreviated PCIe. PCI-X is a 
different thing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Tero Grundström

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005, Thomas Kirchner wrote:


* On Jul 24 15:46, Mark Shields (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:

Any ideas?


All the comments about enabling 4G highmem are correct - the kernel can't
address a full gig without it.  However, enabling this slightly slows
down your memory, and some people choose to keep it off for speed unless
they're using the full gig.  Another option, better imho, is to use a
kernel with the 1g_lowmem patch (originally from -ck patchset) or to
patch it in yourself, which enables exactly 1 gig of memory at full
speed.

The patch for kernel 2.6.12 is available here:
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/2.6.12/2.6.12-ck3/patches/1g_lowmem1_i386.diff
If you need it for a different kernel version, start here:
http://ck.kolivas.org/patches/2.6/
Tom


He could also emerge ck-sources, which include the full ck patchset and
genpatches base.

I've been using them for about a year now on my desktop machine. In my
experience, and according to the ck mailing-list, the patches are very 
stable these days.


There is also a server version of the patchset. To get this with emerge 
you have to enable the 'ck-server' USE flag.


Kernel patch homepage of Con Kolivas:
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/

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Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse not working

2005-07-24 Thread smoke3
On 7/24/05, smoke3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm downloading a knoppix 3.9... i'll upload any result!
 For now none!

Ok, some news:

1. Knoppix recognize the mouse as an ImExPS/2 Generic Explorer Mouse
and I cannot get it working even with this livecd!!!

2. I think the problem is with the 2.6.*  kernels: it seems mouse is
always recognized, but the optical lens shuts down as soon  as i begin
moving it...

S.G:

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Re: [gentoo-user] Beep holding Shift

2005-07-24 Thread David Corbin
On Sunday 24 July 2005 04:56 pm, Benno Schulenberg wrote:

  and worse, even if I
  uncheck Use gestures for activating the above features and
  APPLY, it still beeps.

 Hmm, sounds like this bug: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=97425
 What version of KDE are you using now?  Here 3.4.1.

3.4.1 

 Maybe kcmaccessibilty depends on extra things, other split ebuilds,
 some of which I've installed but you don't?

 $ grep kde /var/lib/portage/world | sort

When I get that, all I get is:
kde-base/kde

I had 3.3 installed, and simply did an emerge -uavD world.


 And this is my ~/.kde/share/config/kaccessrc:


Ah!  I see what's happened to me (at least in part).  When I run the control 
center, it prompts me for the root password, which I gave it.  And which 
means my root now has those settings.  This seems like a mistake in the KDE 
world - it seems like there's a mix of things in the control center that are 
system-like settings, and user preferences.

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[gentoo-user] wxGTK compile crash

2005-07-24 Thread Paweł Madej
I have fetched sunday morning src file for wxGTK-2.6.1 and compile it 
and everytime i got this error:


##
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../crt1.o: In function `_start':
init.c:(.text+0x18): undefined reference to `main'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [.pch/wxprec_basedll/wx/wxprec.h.gch] B³±d 1

!!! ERROR: x11-libs/wxGTK-2.6.1 failed.
!!! Function configure_build, Line 46, Exitcode 2
!!! emake failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.



What should i do to compile it and install??
Refeching sources could help?

Thanks for any help
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RE: [gentoo-user] Help

2005-07-24 Thread Alex A. Smith MCP
Hi,

Have you made sure of the filenames of the init ram disk and the kernel?

Only reason I say this is because the other day when I did a Stage 3
Genkernel the files were named something completely different from what is
in the handbook. (I think initrd was something along the lines of
initramdisk-more text and the both included genkernel in the file name)

I had myself wondering over that for a while :)

hth

Alex A. Smith

p.s. im installing a gentoo 2.6.12-r6 Stage 3 genkernel atm so I'll let you
know when its done if the above didn't help ya.

-Original Message-
From: C.Beamer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 24 July 2005 18:24
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Help

Hi All,

After getting side-tracked by a power outage in the middle of a Gentoo
install a couple of weeks ago, I finally got back to doing a Gentoo
install trial run.

All seemed to go well.  When I rebooted I got the menu with the two
selections listed (Gentoo and DOS).  The computer will boot into DOS
okay, but I can't get it to boot into Gentoo.  Ergo, I think the grub
install is fine, but I made an error in my grub.conf file.

Since I'm only moderately savvy about editing configuration files, I
relied on the examples in the Gentoo Handbook.

Details are as follows:

I have a dual boot system:

hda1 is DOS
hda2 is /boot
hda3 is swap
hda4 is my extended partition
hda5 is /root

The grub.conf file that I entered is as follows:

default 0
timeout 30

splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Genoo Linux 2.6.12-r6

root (hda0, 1)
kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
real_root=/dev/hda5 udev
initrd /initrd-2.6.12-gentoo-r6

title=DOS
root (hda0,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

I put the initrd line in the grub.conf file even though when I ran the
command

'ls /boot/kernel* /boot/initrd*'

as instructed in the Handbook, I got told that there was no initrdfile.

Have I missed something or done something wrong?

Is there a way to fix the grub.conf file?

I tried selecting the Gentoo line from the menu and pressing 'e' to
edit, but no matter what changes I made, I still get an error message
when I try to boot into Gentoo that says:

Error 15:  File not found

This displays immediatedly after the line

kernel /kernel-2.6.12-gentoo-r6 root=/dev/ram0 init=linuxrc ramdisk=8192
real_root=/dev/hda5 udev

Any assistance would be appreciated.  And please remember, I am not
stupid, but I'm not a computer science grad.  I've been running Linux at
home for about 3 years and dabbling with it for a couple of years before
that, but I've always used Redhat or Fedora.  However, I'm finding that
with each release of Fedora, more quirks appear.  Things that I was
able to do with no problem in a previous release, I now can't do without
letting some blood.  Hence, I wanted to try Gentoo because I can
install the software from source using emerge.  This will be a learning
curve for me, but I can conquer it - I have come a long way since a
friend first mentioned Linux to me and I asked what it was!

Anyway, the point of the previous paragraph is to ask that complete
details be stated for any help that is provided.  And if you tell me
that I screwed up royally and have to start all over, that's okay. 
That's what this exercise was for - to learn what I needed to know
before installing Gentoo on a production system.

BTW, I did a Stage 3 install.  Since it was my first time and I don't
know anything about optimizations, I didn't want to get in over my
head.  :-)

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

Respectfully,

Colleen

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo not detecting full amount of memory

2005-07-24 Thread Daniel Drake

Hi,

Mark Shields wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /proc/meminfo | grep Mem
MemTotal:  1034284 kB
MemFree:953172 kB


Thanks for the tip.  But strangely, 12mb is still missing.


That sounds perfectly normal. The kernel usually secures 10-20mb RAM for 
itself, which isn't available to the rest of the system.


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