Re: [gentoo-web-user] Spam?

2006-05-16 Thread Paul Querna

Jeremy Brake wrote:
No offence to any of you, but could we please stop discussing the spam 
now? I'm sure the admins are aware of and can deal with it
Regardless, you should all be savvy enough to set up your own filtering 
software if you see the need.




Err -- Maybe we should only allow members of the list to post to the list?


Keep in mind that hundreds of other people are on this list aside from 
yourself, and every one of them has been sent all the same messages as you.


It may also pay to remember that if someone can post spam, then they can 
certainly monitor the lists and add your email addresses to their 
databases when you post.. (especially now that you've put up your hand 
as taking notice of their emails!)


This may well be a case of he who screams loudest gets first served (a 
steaming hot plate of spam and phish)


Jeremy



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[gentoo-user] flash drive mounting

2006-05-16 Thread dirk dil
Hi guys,

I'm having trouble mounting a jetflash 110 onto usb.  The stick is on a
usb port and my kernel supports usb mass storage and dos fs's.  I don't
think the stick needs a special driver.  In the manual it says I should
be able to mount with:

  mount -a -t msdos /dev/sda1 /mnt/jetflash

but there is no such thing as /dev/sda1.  No /dev/sd?? what so ever.

What am I missing?

Thanks for any pointers.

Dirk 

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Re: [gentoo-user] flash drive mounting

2006-05-16 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 16. Mai 2006 09:35 schrieb ext dirk dil:

 but there is no such thing as /dev/sda1.  No /dev/sd?? what so ever.

 What am I missing?

Kernel support for SCSI and SCSI disks, I'd guess.

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] flash drive mounting

2006-05-16 Thread Ryan Tandy

dirk dil wrote:

my kernel supports usb mass storage and dos fs's


Built-in, or modules?  If the latter, make sure they're loaded... ;) 
And as Dirk mentioned, make sure you have SCSI support and SCSI disk 
support (hint: what does the 'sd' in /dev/sd* stand for? :P).


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice with KDE icons (ooo-kde)

2006-05-16 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/14/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Is it an env problem?  I am really lost with this because I do not
understand how OOo links into the DE.


OOo looks at your environment to determine which desktop you are
running and tries to activate an appropriate plugin to integrate with
the DE.

You can override this with the OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP environment variable,
which can be 'kde', 'gnome', or 'none'.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Environment_Variables

So try something like:

OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde oowriter2

And see if you get different results.

-Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread wu chuanwen

2006/5/15, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Sunday 14 May 2006 13:32, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!':
 java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:

A 1.4 vm refuses to load the output from a 1.5 javac because of the
classfile format bump.  A 1.5 vm will load both 1.4 and 1.5 classfiles.
Try running w/ 1.5.

what does this mean?



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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread Uwe Klosa
Hi

You can find information about java on Gentoo here 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml. There are a lot of problems that can 
occur if
you use java 1.5 as system vm. Have a look here: 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml

I recommend to use the java migration-overlay 
https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/Using_migration-overlay

Uwe

wu chuanwen wrote:
 Hi!Everybody!
 I have emerge sun-jdk1.5.**(i download it and ebuild it by
 myself).Now, i want to emerge tomcat,and it is dependent of
 dev-java/commons-daemon-1.0.1 .But when i emerge it,errors just occur:
 
  enum in jdk1.5 is a keyword,but it is used as a variable in
 the dev-java/commons-daemon-1.0.1.
 
 So now is there anyway to emerge tomcat?
 Thanks in advance!
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] flash drive mounting

2006-05-16 Thread Sergio Polini
dirk dil:

 I'm having trouble mounting a jetflash 110 onto usb.

Please, check http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/usb-guide.xml and your flash
drive will work well ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Grrr: gentoo form of dependency hell was: [Bug 129864]

2006-05-16 Thread Richard Fish

On 5/15/06, maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Kernel panic! That's what happens.


Why?  Is it because it couldn't find your root device?  Did it detect
your hard drives correctly on boot?  Or was it because it found your
root, but failed to mount it?  Or is it something completely unrelated
to mounting root?

The specific panic message is significant here if you expect us to help you.


R. Fish, I didn't respond to your request for dmesg
output because I already had a couple days earlier:


No, you posted the *one line* from your dmesg that indicated that you
were booting from the wrong kernel.  That was even before you made the
claim that you were running the old kernel, but somehow booting from
the new kernel, which was the message that I was replying to.  The
dmesg output would have confirmed or contradicted that claim, and the
single line you posted earlier had nothing to do with verifying the
kernel version you booted from.

FYI, one of the first things the kernel does when it boots is to log
essentially the same information as uname produces.  It does this
before initializing devices, mounting filesystems, or much of anything
else.  It also shows up in /var/log/messages to, and looks something
like this:

Linux version 2.6.16-suspend2-r5 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.4.6
(Gentoo 3.4.6-r1, ssp-3.4.5-1.0, pie-8.7.9)) #25 SMP Sun May 14
03:19:08 MST 2006

The above tells you a lot...that I compiled my kernel at 03:19 on May
14th.  It also tells you that was the 25th time I compiled this kernel
version.  I was obviously up late trying a few things! :-)

So if you do a dmesg | grep 'Linux version' ; uname -a, and they
somehow report different things, then what you claimed could be true.

Now to be fair I did not actually ask you to post your dmesg output.
I asked how you checked that you were booting the new kernel, and
suggested that checking dmesg output would be the best.  Of course, if
you did not know what to look for there, posting the output would have
been fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] flash drive mounting

2006-05-16 Thread dirk dil
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 00:02 -0700, Ryan Tandy wrote:
 dirk dil wrote:
  my kernel supports usb mass storage and dos fs's
 
 Built-in, or modules?  If the latter, make sure they're loaded... ;) 
 And as Dirk mentioned, make sure you have SCSI support and SCSI disk 
 support (hint: what does the 'sd' in /dev/sd* stand for? :P).
 
stick disc?

 Ryan

Thanks Dirk, Sergio and Ryan,

scsi and modprobe did the trick.  I hadn't made the scsi connection.

Bye for now

dirk

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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread wu chuanwen

2006/5/16, Uwe Klosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi

You can find information about java on Gentoo here 
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml. There are a lot of problems that can 
occur if
you use java 1.5 as system vm. Have a look here: 
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml

I  have tried this way,but i can' t work.I think just it can't fix my
problem cause i have used jdk1.5 to compile many packages.


I recommend to use the java migration-overlay 
https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/Using_migration-overlay

Why i can't emerge  =java-config-2*


Uwe




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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread Uwe Klosa
You have to emerge java 1.4 and set this to your system vm first. Thena you can 
follow the migration-overlay description.

I also had once java 1.5 as system vm. But there have been problems like that 
you're describing. the solution was to use the
migration-overlay. Now I'm able to use java 1.5 without problems.

Uwe

wu chuanwen wrote:
 2006/5/16, Uwe Klosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi

 You can find information about java on Gentoo here
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml. There are a lot of problems
 that can occur if
 you use java 1.5 as system vm. Have a look here:
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml
 I  have tried this way,but i can' t work.I think just it can't fix my
 problem cause i have used jdk1.5 to compile many packages.

 I recommend to use the java migration-overlay
 https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/Using_migration-overlay
 Why i can't emerge  =java-config-2*

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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread wu chuanwen

2006/5/16, Uwe Klosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

You have to emerge java 1.4 and set this to your system vm first. Thena you can 
follow the migration-overlay description.

I also had once java 1.5 as system vm. But there have been problems like that 
you're describing. the solution was to use the
migration-overlay. Now I'm able to use java 1.5 without problems.


I mean one step is to emerge =java-config-1* =java-config-2*,but i
just can't find the java-config-2*?

Uwe

wu chuanwen wrote:
 2006/5/16, Uwe Klosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi

 You can find information about java on Gentoo here
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/java.xml. There are a lot of problems
 that can occur if
 you use java 1.5 as system vm. Have a look here:
 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/java/tiger-faq.xml
 I  have tried this way,but i can' t work.I think just it can't fix my
 problem cause i have used jdk1.5 to compile many packages.

 I recommend to use the java migration-overlay
 https://projects.gentooexperimental.org/expj/wiki/Using_migration-overlay
 Why i can't emerge  =java-config-2*

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[gentoo-user] External firewire drive...

2006-05-16 Thread Stroller

Hi there,

Can anyone give me some quick pointers to mounting an external  
firewire drive under Gentoo, please?


I've just installed 2006.0 on a new system, and pretty much used the  
exact same .config as the LiveCD's kernel when building my own  
(`zcat /proc/config.gz  /usr/src/linux.config`) so I'm guessing that  
all I'm missing is some modprobes.


I thought that under udev, the kernel was supposed to be quite clever  
about recognising devices. Do I need to emerge coldplug, or is there  
anything else I can do to help things along?


If I boot from a LiveCD or Knoppix these are always very good about  
finding all the devices in the system and making a mount point for  
them - are there any utilities for my installed Gentoo system that  
will do similar.


Many thanks in advance for any pointers,

Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] External firewire drive...

2006-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 May 2006 11:28:17 +0100, Stroller wrote:

 Can anyone give me some quick pointers to mounting an external  
 firewire drive under Gentoo, please?

Is the ohci1394 module loaded? Do you have hotplug support in your kernel?
CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y

 I thought that under udev, the kernel was supposed to be quite clever  
 about recognising devices. Do I need to emerge coldplug, or is there  
 anything else I can do to help things along?

 If I boot from a LiveCD or Knoppix these are always very good about  
 finding all the devices in the system and making a mount point for  
 them - are there any utilities for my installed Gentoo system that  
 will do similar.

Udev should recognise the drive and create a device node, but creating
mount points is not udev's job. You need a device manager for that. If
you use KDE, especially 3.5, it should handle it for you, provided you
have the hal USE flag set. With other WMs, use ivman.

You don't need a specific udev rule to use a fwdisk, but it does make the
naming of the device, and the mount point, more consistent. I use this
rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules, but you'll need to change the
model_id value, unless you have the same enclosure as me.

BUS==ieee1394, KERNEL==sd?1, SYSFS{model_id}==0x008034, NAME:=fwdisk, 
SYMLINK=%k


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Re: [gentoo-user] External firewire drive...

2006-05-16 Thread Stroller


On 16 May 2006, at 12:30, Neil Bothwick wrote:

...

I thought that under udev, the kernel was supposed to be quite clever
about recognising devices. Do I need to emerge coldplug, or is there
anything else I can do to help things along?



If I boot from a LiveCD or Knoppix these are always very good about
finding all the devices in the system and making a mount point for
them - are there any utilities for my installed Gentoo system that
will do similar.


Udev should recognise the drive and create a device node...


Having spent the last hour tinkering, it seems to do so only after  
I've emerged  started coldplug. Is there anything else I should be  
doing to get udev working, or should it just work with current  
kernels.



... but creating mount points is not udev's job.


Yes, I'm not quite so fussed about that, as long as I can find the  
drive in /dev/sda


What I'm having problems with right now is allowing users to write to  
the external drive.
Is this something as simple as `chmod 777 /mnt/sda1  chgrp users / 
mnt/sda1`?


I'm afraid I'm more used to using Linux on servers, and I don't  
recall encountering this issue.
I know I can change permissions in /etc/fstab, but I don't know yet  
whether I want to add this device to there (even with the noauto  
option) as it won't always be connected.



You need a device manager for that. If
you use KDE, especially 3.5, it should handle it for you, provided you
have the hal USE flag set. With other WMs, use ivman.


Thanks! I'll take a look at ivman - I want to get KDE installed on  
this machine eventually, but I really want something that'll also  
work when I'm not booting to X. Are there any downsides to using  
`ivman` with USE=-hal KDE? I guess drives mounted by ivman might not  
appear on KDE desktops, so I might be better emerging both ivman  
_and_ USE=hal KDE but putting them in different runlevels?



...I use this
rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules, but you'll need to change the
model_id value, unless you have the same enclosure as me.

BUS==ieee1394, KERNEL==sd?1, SYSFS{model_id}==0x008034,  
NAME:=fwdisk, SYMLINK=%k


Running coldplug seems to have placed the drive at /dev/sda, which  
I'm perfectly happy with.


Thanks for your time,

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Re: [gentoo-user] flash drive mounting

2006-05-16 Thread Alexey Starinsky
Hello, dirk.

dirk dil   mount -a -t msdos /dev/sda1 /mnt/jetflash
dirk dil but there is no such thing as /dev/sda1.  No /dev/sd?? what so ever.
dirk dil What am I missing?

Just look what is in the
/var/log/messages, /var/log/kernel, e.t.c (depends on your system logger)
Inserting your flash drive must leave trace in your logs, just look
what is changed there after inserting your drive, post it in maillist.

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Re: [gentoo-user] package.mask and my thick skull

2006-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 15 May 2006 16:52:21 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote:

  But why would you want to do this? If a patch level update is
  released, there may be a good reason. I'd prefer to leave things
  alone until an update is realsed. Then check the Changelog and mask
  the specific version if I don't need it.

 So you can run emerge -uD world without fetching an 100MB file from
 the net and taking 7 hours to compile it?

That would only happen if you blindly ran emerge --update world with
--ask or --pretend. If you checked first, you would see the update and
be able to read the Changelog before deciding whether to mask that one
update. Running emerge --update automatically is potentially dangerous,
as is ignoring security updates. Combining the two is not something I'd
be prepared to risk.

There wouldn't be a big download anyway, not for a patch level upgrade,
unless you had cleared $DISTDIR.


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Re: [gentoo-user] External firewire drive...

2006-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 16 May 2006 12:59:48 +0100, Stroller wrote:

  Udev should recognise the drive and create a device node...
 
 Having spent the last hour tinkering, it seems to do so only after  
 I've emerged  started coldplug. Is there anything else I should be  
 doing to get udev working, or should it just work with current  
 kernels.

That depends on your udev version. The latest ~arch udev doesn't need
coldplug (in fact, it blocks it) but earlier versions do.

  ... but creating mount points is not udev's job.
 
 Yes, I'm not quite so fussed about that, as long as I can find the  
 drive in /dev/sda
 
 What I'm having problems with right now is allowing users to write to  
 the external drive.
 Is this something as simple as `chmod 777 /mnt/sda1  chgrp users / 
 mnt/sda1`?

That should work. Making directories globally writeable may not be
secure, but it's good for testing. However, using a device manager makes
life easier, as the mount point always belongs to the user running the
device manager.

 I know I can change permissions in /etc/fstab, but I don't know yet  
 whether I want to add this device to there (even with the noauto  
 option) as it won't always be connected.

With HAL/D-BUS/pmount  and KDE or ivman, you don't need anything in fstab.

  You need a device manager for that. If
  you use KDE, especially 3.5, it should handle it for you, provided you
  have the hal USE flag set. With other WMs, use ivman.
 
 Thanks! I'll take a look at ivman - I want to get KDE installed on  
 this machine eventually, but I really want something that'll also  
 work when I'm not booting to X. Are there any downsides to using  
 `ivman` with USE=-hal KDE? I guess drives mounted by ivman might not  
 appear on KDE desktops, so I might be better emerging both ivman  
 _and_ USE=hal KDE but putting them in different runlevels?

ivman has to run as the user, from desktop startup. I've not tried
running it without a desktop, but you could put something like 'killall
ivman' in KDE's autostart directory. then it should switch off ivman and
use its own device manager whenever you load the desktop. I don't run
without a desktop that often, not on machines that I would use with
removable devices, so I just use pmount from the command line in those
cases. pmount mounts as a user and creates the mount point, just as the
GUI device managers do.

  ...I use this
  rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/10-udev.rules, but you'll need to change the
  model_id value, unless you have the same enclosure as me.
 
  BUS==ieee1394, KERNEL==sd?1, SYSFS{model_id}==0x008034,  
  NAME:=fwdisk, SYMLINK=%k
 
 Running coldplug seems to have placed the drive at /dev/sda, which  
 I'm perfectly happy with.

I take it you don't use USB devices at the same time. Persistent naming
makes life a to easier if you have multiple devices, especially as pmount
(and so KDE and ivman) use the device name for the mount point. Whatever
else I may have plugged in, and whatever computer I am using (my desktop
uses sda for a hard disk) my firewire drive is always mounted
at /media/fwdisk. 

Anyway, I don't want removable disks having device names anything
remotely like my system disks. forgetting which computer I am using when
I type mkdosfs -F 32 /dev/sda1 could ruin my day :(


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[gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources 2.6.16-r7 and Hyperthreading = not working ?

2006-05-16 Thread Xavier MOGHRABI
Dear Gentoo Users and Dev,

I've just installed on my desktop the last gentoo-sources package ( in portage 
(2.6.16-r7). It seems that the hyperthreading is unvailable since when I do :
'cat /proc/cpuinfo', I can just see a single computer.

That is really strange since I was using the previous package 
(gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r6) with hyperthreading feature enabled.

To build my kernel, I use genkernel (with --menuconfig option). I keep the 
same configuration as the one for gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r6, that I loaded.

In my '.config' file, I have the following options, that as I know should make 
hyperthreading available. :
CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y
and
CONFIG_SMP=y
CONFIG_NR_CPUS=2
CONFIG_SCHED_SMT=y

My CPU is a single Pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT. Hereunder is the result 
of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' with the previous kernel:
processor   : 0
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 3
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
stepping: 4
cpu MHz : 3192.178
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
bogomips: 6391.31

processor   : 1
vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
cpu family  : 15
model   : 3
model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
stepping: 4
cpu MHz : 3192.178
cache size  : 1024 KB
physical id : 0
siblings: 2
core id : 0
cpu cores   : 1
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 5
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
bogomips: 6384.19

Does somebody know what is wrong in my case ?

Thanks for your answer !

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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 02:28, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote 
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!':
 2006/5/15, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sunday 14 May 2006 13:32, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
 
  about 'Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!':
   java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError:
 
  A 1.4 vm refuses to load the output from a 1.5 javac because of the
  classfile format bump.  A 1.5 vm will load both 1.4 and 1.5
  classfiles. Try running w/ 1.5.

 what does this mean?

javac compiles .java files into (one or more) .class files.  Multiple class 
files plus metadata files are zip'd into a .jar file.

.class files have a very specific format.  In particular there's the 
classfile magic (0xCAFEBABE) that confirms that a file with the .class 
extension is really in the classfile format, and can be used to identify 
un- or mis-named classfiles.

Further on in the classfile header (before the data specific to the .java 
file) is a classfile version.  Different versions of javac write out 
different classfile versions.  Presumably to make sure a vm can /safely/ 
load a class.  In particular, there've been at least 2 version bumps.  One 
from somewhere between 1.0 and 1.2 and one between 1.4 and 1.5.  I'm not 
sure on the /exact/ chanages associated with each of those bumps.

Each vm has a whitelist of classfile versions it will load.  The default 
version output by a 1.5 javac is not on the whitelist for a 1.4 vm.  You 
can change the classfile version output with the --target argument to 
javac.

Also, javac actually runs inside a vm, and will attempt to load classfiles 
that are used by your program, but not available on the source path, in an 
attempt to ensure you are using those classes correctly.  The classfiles 
must have a version loadable by javac's vm or you get the same error.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread wu chuanwen

2006/5/16, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

On Tuesday 16 May 2006 02:28, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!':
 2006/5/15, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Sunday 14 May 2006 13:32, wu chuanwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote



javac compiles .java files into (one or more) .class files.  Multiple class
files plus metadata files are zip'd into a .jar file.

.class files have a very specific format.  In particular there's the
classfile magic (0xCAFEBABE) that confirms that a file with the .class
extension is really in the classfile format, and can be used to identify
un- or mis-named classfiles.

Further on in the classfile header (before the data specific to the .java
file) is a classfile version.  Different versions of javac write out
different classfile versions.  Presumably to make sure a vm can /safely/
load a class.  In particular, there've been at least 2 version bumps.  One
from somewhere between 1.0 and 1.2 and one between 1.4 and 1.5.  I'm not
sure on the /exact/ chanages associated with each of those bumps.

Each vm has a whitelist of classfile versions it will load.  The default
version output by a 1.5 javac is not on the whitelist for a 1.4 vm.  You
can change the classfile version output with the --target argument to
javac.

Also, javac actually runs inside a vm, and will attempt to load classfiles
that are used by your program, but not available on the source path, in an
attempt to ensure you are using those classes correctly.  The classfiles
must have a version loadable by javac's vm or you get the same error.

Thank you very much!I have learned a lot.

Now my problem is :
I have both jdk1.5 and 1.4 now.
$ java-config -L
[sun-jdk-1.4.2.10] Sun JDK 1.4.2.10 (/etc/env.d/java/20sun-jdk-1.4.2.10)
[sun-jdk-1.5.0.06] Sun JDK 1.5.0.06 (/etc/env.d/java/20sun-jdk-1.5.0.06) *
I compiled all the dev-java packages by javac1.5.Now when i compile
commons-pool-1.2-r1,enum can't be recognized as a keyword.And when i
switch to jdk 1.4,the message is UnsupportedClassVersionError.
How can i fix this problem now besides re-emerge all the packages in dev-java?



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[gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Kris Kerwin
Hi folks,

Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Alexander Skwar
Kris Kerwin wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 

You mount it.

mount -o loop file.iso /some/path

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Gerhard Hoogterp
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 17:18, Kris Kerwin wrote:

 Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image:
 extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball,
 without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option
 somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel
 like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.

Mount and copy should be an option.. 
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Mounting_Iso_Files should help..

Gerhard


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RE: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Lee Packham
You can do:

mount -o loop /location/of/iso/file.iso /mnt/cdrom

That will mount it on the file system and allow you to grab stuff out.
You might have to specify a filesystem type, can't remember.

If that's the case:

mount -t iso9660 -o loop /location/of/iso/file.iso /mnt/cdrom

Lee.

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Sent: 16 May 2006 16:19
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

Hi folks,

Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.

Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Boris Fersing

2006/5/16, Kris Kerwin [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

Hi folks,

Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image:
extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball,
without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option
somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel
like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.

Thanks in advance.


Hi,
try :

mount myfile.iso /tmp -o loop

Boris.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 10:18 -0500, Kris Kerwin wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
 extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
 without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
 somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
 like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kris

I might have the syntax wrong, since I haven't done this in awhile, but
I think it goes like this:

mount -o loop someImage.iso someDirectory

This will allow you to mount the ISO and browse the files there as if
they were actually on a CD (or extraced on your hard drive).  The files
are read-only while they are inside the ISO image...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread John J. Foster

Kris Kerwin wrote:

Hi folks,

Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.



Maybe this will help.

http://www.linuxhelp.net/isos/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread John Jolet

Kris Kerwin wrote:


Hi folks,

Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.


Thanks in advance.

Kris
 

mount as loopback mount -o loopback i think.  but you have to have 
enabled the loopback fs in the kernel.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 10:18 -0500, Kris Kerwin wrote:
 Hi folks,
 
 Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
 extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
 without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
 somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
 like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kris
Hi,
Use mount -t iso9660 ISO-file-name.iso /mnt/cdrom -o loop
Then in /mnt/cdrom you'll have ISO-file contents. man mount
HTH.Rumen


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[gentoo-user] Gnome Sound

2006-05-16 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar

Hi everyone,

I am experiencing a real odd thing, I configured my kernel to alsa for
NVIDIA AC'97 sound card, the sound options had beeing done well since
cat /proc/asound/cards returns:
0 [CK804  ]: NFORCE - NVidia CK804
NVidia CK804 with ALC850 at 0xda003000, irq 11

nice,
XMMS plays my mp3 and ogg files, mplayer plays most part of my videos,
but mplayers always says at starttup that audio device is already in
use, but it plays video with audio.

Until there, no real problem, but gnome enviroment sounds just don't
work, if I change multimedia for alsa none of the other programs work
and gnome sound events sound shuttering.

What can I do to solve this issue ? anyone had a clue ?

Thanks for all the support, Allan.

PS. If anyone needs complementary information, just ask.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources 2.6.16-r7 and Hyperthreading = not working ?

2006-05-16 Thread Mike Myers
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Hi

If I remember correctly, I think you also need to make sure you have
ACPI enabled in the kernel too.

Xavier MOGHRABI wrote:
 Dear Gentoo Users and Dev,
 
 I've just installed on my desktop the last gentoo-sources package ( in 
 portage 
 (2.6.16-r7). It seems that the hyperthreading is unvailable since when I do :
 'cat /proc/cpuinfo', I can just see a single computer.
 
 That is really strange since I was using the previous package 
 (gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r6) with hyperthreading feature enabled.
 
 To build my kernel, I use genkernel (with --menuconfig option). I keep the 
 same configuration as the one for gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r6, that I loaded.
 
 In my '.config' file, I have the following options, that as I know should 
 make 
 hyperthreading available. :
 CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y
 and
 CONFIG_SMP=y
 CONFIG_NR_CPUS=2
 CONFIG_SCHED_SMT=y
 
 My CPU is a single Pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT. Hereunder is the result 
 of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' with the previous kernel:
 processor   : 0
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 3
 model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
 stepping: 4
 cpu MHz : 3192.178
 cache size  : 1024 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
 core id : 0
 cpu cores   : 1
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 5
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
 cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
 pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
 bogomips: 6391.31
 
 processor   : 1
 vendor_id   : GenuineIntel
 cpu family  : 15
 model   : 3
 model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
 stepping: 4
 cpu MHz : 3192.178
 cache size  : 1024 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings: 2
 core id : 0
 cpu cores   : 1
 fdiv_bug: no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug: no
 coma_bug: no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception   : yes
 cpuid level : 5
 wp  : yes
 flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca 
 cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc 
 pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
 bogomips: 6384.19
 
 Does somebody know what is wrong in my case ?
 
 Thanks for your answer !
 

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[gentoo-user] Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Setup:
Athlon64 running 32bit Gentoo

Running these use flags in make.conf:
[...]
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
USE=samba smb mysql symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr 
  emacs xinerama mbox apache2 hal logrotate objc 
  gcj sasl vmmouse wacom radeon tga vesa vga via 
  vmware -ipv6 -imap -maildir  -gnome

I'm running an update world after about 2 mnths of not updating and
keep hitting a snag when glibc takes its turn out of the 164 updates
left. 

The first error was apparently due to missing USE flags and said:

 checking glibc-powerpc-cpu-addon-v0.01.tgz ;-)
 * glibc-2.4 is nptl-only!

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1543:   Called dyn_setup
  ebuild.sh, line 660:   Called pkg_setup
  glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1080:   Called die

!!! please add USE='nptl nptlonly' to make.conf
[...]

1) So what does  powerpc have to do with my architecture anyway?


Taking the hint from error output I added those flags and then ran:

HOST:reader ~
root # USE=nptl nptlonly emerge -vuD glibc

Above command gets this error

[...]
checking for sed... sed
checking version of sed... 4.1.4, ok
checking for autoconf... autoconf
checking whether autoconf works... yes
configure: error:
*** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc
*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1527:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 931:   Called src_compile
  glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1180:   Called toolchain-glibc_src_compile
  glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 262:   Called glibc_do_configure 'nptl'
  glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 952:   Called die

!!! failed to configure glibc

=

It says a critical program (gcc) is missing... What?
I did check and am running the most recent version in portage.
(which was synced just prior to running the update)

Looking at the call stack it appears that something about `nptl' is
still causing problems.

Anyone spot the problem here?

Also what is nptl all about anyway?  Do I need that flag?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Steven Ringwald

Kris Kerwin wrote:

Hi folks,

Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.


Thanks in advance.

Kris
  

mount-tiso9660  -oloop  foobar.iso /mnt/cdrom


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Re: [gentoo-user] Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread James Ausmus

On 16 May 2006 11:11:18 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Setup:
Athlon64 running 32bit Gentoo

Running these use flags in make.conf:
[...]
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
USE=samba smb mysql symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr
  emacs xinerama mbox apache2 hal logrotate objc
  gcj sasl vmmouse wacom radeon tga vesa vga via
  vmware -ipv6 -imap -maildir  -gnome

I'm running an update world after about 2 mnths of not updating and
keep hitting a snag when glibc takes its turn out of the 164 updates
left.

The first error was apparently due to missing USE flags and said:

 checking glibc-powerpc-cpu-addon-v0.01.tgz ;-)
 * glibc-2.4 is nptl-only!

!!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1543:   Called dyn_setup
  ebuild.sh, line 660:   Called pkg_setup
  glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1080:   Called die

!!! please add USE='nptl nptlonly' to make.conf
[...]

1) So what does  powerpc have to do with my architecture anyway?


Taking the hint from error output I added those flags and then ran:

HOST:reader ~
root # USE=nptl nptlonly emerge -vuD glibc

Above command gets this error

[...]
checking for sed... sed
checking version of sed... 4.1.4, ok
checking for autoconf... autoconf
checking whether autoconf works... yes
configure: error:
*** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc
*** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.


My bet would be that the or too old bit is the important one - what
version of gcc are you running, and what version does it want to
install if you do an emerge -upv gcc?

HTH-

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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources 2.6.16-r7 and Hyperthreading = not working ?

2006-05-16 Thread Johnson, Maurice E CTR NSWCDL-K74
Title: RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources 2.6.16-r7 and Hyperthreading = not working ?






You need to enable:

CONFIG_X86_LOCAL_APIC=y



-Original Message-
From: Mike Myers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tue 5/16/2006 12:14 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-sources 2.6.16-r7 and Hyperthreading = not working ?

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Hi

If I remember correctly, I think you also need to make sure you have
ACPI enabled in the kernel too.

Xavier MOGHRABI wrote:
 Dear Gentoo Users and Dev,

 I've just installed on my desktop the last gentoo-sources package ( in portage
 (2.6.16-r7). It seems that the hyperthreading is unvailable since when I do :
 'cat /proc/cpuinfo', I can just see a single computer.

 That is really strange since I was using the previous package
 (gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r6) with hyperthreading feature enabled.

 To build my kernel, I use genkernel (with --menuconfig option). I keep the
 same configuration as the one for gentoo-sources-2.6.16-r6, that I loaded.

 In my '.config' file, I have the following options, that as I know should make
 hyperthreading available. :
 CONFIG_MPENTIUM4=y
 and
 CONFIG_SMP=y
 CONFIG_NR_CPUS=2
 CONFIG_SCHED_SMT=y

 My CPU is a single Pentium 4 3.2GHz with HT. Hereunder is the result
 of 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' with the previous kernel:
 processor : 0
 vendor_id : GenuineIntel
 cpu family : 15
 model : 3
 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
 stepping : 4
 cpu MHz : 3192.178
 cache size : 1024 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings : 2
 core id : 0
 cpu cores : 1
 fdiv_bug : no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug : no
 coma_bug : no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception : yes
 cpuid level : 5
 wp : yes
 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
 cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc
 pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
 bogomips : 6391.31

 processor : 1
 vendor_id : GenuineIntel
 cpu family : 15
 model : 3
 model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
 stepping : 4
 cpu MHz : 3192.178
 cache size : 1024 KB
 physical id : 0
 siblings : 2
 core id : 0
 cpu cores : 1
 fdiv_bug : no
 hlt_bug : no
 f00f_bug : no
 coma_bug : no
 fpu : yes
 fpu_exception : yes
 cpuid level : 5
 wp : yes
 flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca
 cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe constant_tsc
 pni monitor ds_cpl cid xtpr
 bogomips : 6384.19

 Does somebody know what is wrong in my case ?

 Thanks for your answer !


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[gentoo-user] Re: Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
James Ausmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 16 May 2006 11:11:18 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Setup:
  Athlon64 running 32bit Gentoo
 
  Running these use flags in make.conf:
  [...]
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
  USE=samba smb mysql symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr
emacs xinerama mbox apache2 hal logrotate objc
gcj sasl vmmouse wacom radeon tga vesa vga via
vmware -ipv6 -imap -maildir  -gnome
 
  I'm running an update world after about 2 mnths of not updating and
  keep hitting a snag when glibc takes its turn out of the 164 updates
  left.
 
  The first error was apparently due to missing USE flags and said:
 
   checking glibc-powerpc-cpu-addon-v0.01.tgz ;-)
   * glibc-2.4 is nptl-only!
 
  !!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
  Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1543:   Called dyn_setup
ebuild.sh, line 660:   Called pkg_setup
glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1080:   Called die
 
  !!! please add USE='nptl nptlonly' to make.conf
  [...]
 
  1) So what does  powerpc have to do with my architecture anyway?
 
 
  Taking the hint from error output I added those flags and then ran:
 
  HOST:reader ~
  root # USE=nptl nptlonly emerge -vuD glibc
 
  Above command gets this error
 
  [...]
  checking for sed... sed
  checking version of sed... 4.1.4, ok
  checking for autoconf... autoconf
  checking whether autoconf works... yes
  configure: error:
  *** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc
  *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.
 
 My bet would be that the or too old bit is the important one - what
 version of gcc are you running, and what version does it want to
 install if you do an emerge -upv gcc?

I did try to cover that in my initial post but stating here:

 It says a critical program (gcc) is missing... What?
 I did check and am running the most recent version in portage.
 (which was synced just prior to running the update)

That said, running your suggested command did verify that this problem
runs in a circle:

 root # emerge -vuDp gcc

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 [2.3.6-r3] USE=nls -build -glibc-omitfp 
-hardened -nptl -nptlonly -profile 0 kB

Note: No gcc is needed but it does want to (U) update to the very
glibc package that cries about gcc

So no relief there. Any other guesses would be most welcome.

 

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[gentoo-user] watchguard-kovpn?

2006-05-16 Thread Michael W. Holdeman
Anyone out there familiar with the watchguard vpn's? Can you configure kovpn 
or something similar to use the vpn with a Gentoo client? I don't see a muvpn 
client for linux...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread James Ausmus

On 16 May 2006 11:51:50 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

James Ausmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 16 May 2006 11:11:18 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Setup:
  Athlon64 running 32bit Gentoo
 
  Running these use flags in make.conf:
  [...]
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
  USE=samba smb mysql symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr
emacs xinerama mbox apache2 hal logrotate objc
gcj sasl vmmouse wacom radeon tga vesa vga via
vmware -ipv6 -imap -maildir  -gnome
 
  I'm running an update world after about 2 mnths of not updating and
  keep hitting a snag when glibc takes its turn out of the 164 updates
  left.
 
  The first error was apparently due to missing USE flags and said:
 
   checking glibc-powerpc-cpu-addon-v0.01.tgz ;-)
   * glibc-2.4 is nptl-only!
 
  !!! ERROR: sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 failed.
  Call stack:
ebuild.sh, line 1543:   Called dyn_setup
ebuild.sh, line 660:   Called pkg_setup
glibc-2.4-r3.ebuild, line 1080:   Called die
 
  !!! please add USE='nptl nptlonly' to make.conf
  [...]
 
  1) So what does  powerpc have to do with my architecture anyway?
 
 
  Taking the hint from error output I added those flags and then ran:
 
  HOST:reader ~
  root # USE=nptl nptlonly emerge -vuD glibc
 
  Above command gets this error
 
  [...]
  checking for sed... sed
  checking version of sed... 4.1.4, ok
  checking for autoconf... autoconf
  checking whether autoconf works... yes
  configure: error:
  *** These critical programs are missing or too old: gcc
  *** Check the INSTALL file for required versions.

 My bet would be that the or too old bit is the important one - what
 version of gcc are you running, and what version does it want to
 install if you do an emerge -upv gcc?

I did try to cover that in my initial post but stating here:

 It says a critical program (gcc) is missing... What?
 I did check and am running the most recent version in portage.
 (which was synced just prior to running the update)

That said, running your suggested command did verify that this problem
runs in a circle:

 root # emerge -vuDp gcc

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.4-r3 [2.3.6-r3] USE=nls -build -glibc-omitfp 
-hardened -nptl -nptlonly -profile 0 kB

Note: No gcc is needed but it does want to (U) update to the very
glibc package that cries about gcc


OK, what does the output of gcc-config -l (ell) show you - what
version of gcc is currently being used? Did gcc get updated prior to
the glibc update attempt? If so, was env-update  source /etc/profile
run after the gcc update?


-James



So no relief there. Any other guesses would be most welcome.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-16 Thread Grant

 I'd like it to
 behave that way as much as possible so my Gentoo router can handle as
 many of the router duties as possible.  I've disabled the Westell's
 firewall.  What other types of things should I look for in the
 Westell's configuration screen to disable?  Is there anything that
 might prevent this modem/router from behaving like a modem for all
 intents and purposes so my Gentoo router can behave like a router
 connected to a modem?

Some routers have a DMZ Port or DMZ Host option that will make the
router automatically forward all ports to the machine configured on that
port.  If you like, you can even disable things like name serving and
internal DHCP and let your Gentoo router handle those (if you followed
the Home Router guide and used dnsmasq).  If you have no Windows boxes
on your network, you can safely disable WINS and/or NetBIOS name resolution.

Ryan


Sounds good to me.  Could this be the same type of feature as the DMZ Port/Host:

###
Static NAT

Set Up an IP Address to be your Default NAT Destination.

Static NAT Device or specify IP Address

All unsolicited inbound traffic will be sent to the above device.
Note: Static Nat and IP Passthrough are mutually exclusive features.
###

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[gentoo-user] USE flags for amd64 (running in 32 bit)

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm running 32bit gentoo on an amd athlon64 would the architeture USE
flag still be ~x86? or something else?

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags for amd64 (running in 32 bit)

2006-05-16 Thread John Jolet

Harry Putnam wrote:


I'm running 32bit gentoo on an amd athlon64 would the architeture USE
flag still be ~x86? or something else?

 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread Richard Fish

On 16 May 2006 12:44:37 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

So it appears then that something is wrong with this update process.
emerge -v -uDp gcc doesn't want to update the current gcc which is
3.3.6  yet the glibc it wants to install  requires a newer
gcc bad.


No, you already have gcc 3.4 installed.  But you need to follow the
gcc 3.3 to 3.4 migration guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml

*DANGER*: if you simply use gcc-config to select the 3.4 compiler and
do not follow the migration guide, you will likely end up with a
broken system.


In fact running emerge -v -uDp gcc only wants to (U) update glibc to a
version that requires a newer gcc to be installed.  Something is very
wrong in this picture.


Run it again without the '-u' option, and it will show you that you
already have gcc 3.4 installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fruityloops on gnu/linux!

2006-05-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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 Cool. I'll try it ASAP. But, by the way: has anyone figured out a way to
 run the real FL with Wine? I manage to have it starting, but there are
 serious issues with sound output (it has a latency of *seconds* and it's
 quite distorted...in practice, it's totally unusable).

nope, sorry :( - but it works ok on vmware.

 Anyway if Hydrogen works at least basically, it would be most cool (I
 just can't stand the trackers anymore)... people could begin to add
 support for windows VST plugins, after :D.

Well,
if you use layman, and add the pro-audio overlay, you'll find lmms.

I don't QUITE like it yet, but it's probably me. It's a great fruityloops-like 
software, but I like
hydrogen a bit more.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 12:44:37PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked:
  [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 *
  [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6-hardened
  [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6-hardenednopie
  [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6-hardenednopiessp
  [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6-hardenednossp
  [6] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6
  [7] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardened
  [8] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopie
  [9] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednopiessp
  [10] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.6-hardenednossp
 
snip
 I've looked through the INSTALL file for glibc and it does specify a
 newer version of gcc than I am running.
 
Recommended Tools for Compilation
=
 
[...]
 
 * GCC 3.4 or newer, GCC 4.1 recommended
 
snip
 I'm tempted to try installing a newer gcc like maybe gcc-4* and see if
 that cures this problem do you think that would be wise?
 

No need. You already have the required version of GCC installed. Just
run
  gcc-config 6
and follow the instructions to 
  source /etc/profile
and re-run the emerge. 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Circular mess with glibc update (-u world)

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 16 May 2006 12:44:37 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So it appears then that something is wrong with this update process.
  emerge -v -uDp gcc doesn't want to update the current gcc which is
  3.3.6  yet the glibc it wants to install  requires a newer
  gcc bad.
 
 No, you already have gcc 3.4 installed.  But you need to follow the
 gcc 3.3 to 3.4 migration guide:
 
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gcc-upgrading.xml
 
 *DANGER*: if you simply use gcc-config to select the 3.4 compiler and
 do not follow the migration guide, you will likely end up with a
 broken system.

Thanks for that pointer.
 
  In fact running emerge -v -uDp gcc only wants to (U) update glibc to a
  version that requires a newer gcc to be installed.  Something is very
  wrong in this picture.
 
 Run it again without the '-u' option, and it will show you that you
 already have gcc 3.4 installed.

And so it does.

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Re: [gentoo-user] device-mapper driver version in gentoo-sources 2.4.32-r4 kernel

2006-05-16 Thread Joe Harvell

Never mind, I figured it out.

Joe Harvell wrote:

Is there a way I can tell which device-mapper version is in this kernel?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Alexander Skwar

Lee Packham wrote:


mount -o loop /location/of/iso/file.iso /mnt/cdrom

That will mount it on the file system and allow you to grab stuff out.
You might have to specify a filesystem type, can't remember.


No, you don't HAVE to. You can, but you're not forced to.

But that's actually nothing special - it's perfectly fine to
mount normal filesystems without specifiyng the filesystemtype.

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Re: [gentoo-user] dlloader USE flag

2006-05-16 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Willie Wong wrote:
 On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 09:27:16AM -0500, Penguin Lover Boyd Stephen Smith 
 Jr. squawked:
 
From what I understand there's not one.  I believe X.org 7 ONLY supports 
the ELF loader.  It could be for the unusual case that you are running an 
X based off of the xf86 tree which, IIRC, only supported the dll loader.

 
 
 The otherway around. Xorg 7 only uses the dlloader. cf.
  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/modular-x-howto.xml
 
 Also, the dlloader is compatible with hardened systems, while
 elfloader fails horribly when it comes to PIC code. 
  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/hardened/hardenedxorg.xml
 
 I think the difference is basically that elfloader is built from
 scratch by the X team, while dlloader just uses ld-linux.so from
 glibc. 
 
 W
 
Thanks guys.  From what I've read, dlloader, while not quite
experimental, is not used very much yet.  Perhaps for the future.  The
only packages I would need it for are xorg-x11 and nvidia-glx.  So I
think I'll just enable it for those two only and not globally in make.conf.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice with KDE icons (ooo-kde)

2006-05-16 Thread Mick

On 16/05/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 5/14/06, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it an env problem?  I am really lost with this because I do not
 understand how OOo links into the DE.

OOo looks at your environment to determine which desktop you are
running and tries to activate an appropriate plugin to integrate with
the DE.

You can override this with the OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP environment variable,
which can be 'kde', 'gnome', or 'none'.

http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Environment_Variables

So try something like:

OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde oowriter2

And see if you get different results.


Yeay!  Result!  Gnome and KDE look cool.  'none' looks yukky.  So, I
guess mine picks up none, which is puzzling given my USE flags - I
mean, what's the point setting flags then?  How can I make OOo pick a
particular desktop env permanently?  Where can I set it up?

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Thomas Kirchner
* On May  9 19:33, Neil Bothwick (gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org) wrote:
 I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I
 thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your
 most/least favourite X terminals, and why?

I use aterm exclusively.  It opens instantly, never lags, looks good, 
uses less resources than any other terminal I've seen, and is pretty 
customizable.

Not sure what else you could want, honestly.  Just add screen, rinse, 
repeat.

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[gentoo-user] Re: USE flags for amd64 (running in 32 bit)

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
 
 I'm running 32bit gentoo on an amd athlon64 would the architeture USE
 flag still be ~x86? or something else?
 
 
 k8
 -- 

Sorry to be a pest on this, but I was unable to verify this
information on a google of  site:gentoo.org ACCEPT_KEYWORDS k8

In fact there seems to be a fair bit of confusion on this.
I suspect my /etc/make.conf is wrong in several ways.

First let me explain:  I switched computers due to my main linux box
giving up the ghost.  I grabbed an athlon64 +3400 running winxp and
pirated it for my main gentoo desktop.

I switched over lots of stuff from the salvaged HDDs to the athlon.
Not sure now what I may have edited into /etc/make.conf.  Somehow I
still got some amd stuff in it.  probably from a 'from scratch
install' using a stage.

Anyway cutting to the chase I have this in there, I added everthing
below ALSA_CARDS I think:
==
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built 
this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS=-Os -march=athlon-xp -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
ALSA_CARDS=via82xx
GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo 
http://gentoo.cs.lewisu.edu/gentoo/;
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
USE=samba smb mysql symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr emacs 
xinerama mbox apache2 hal logrotate objc gcj sasl 
vmmouse wacom radeon tga vesa vga via vmware nptl 
nptlonly -ipv6 -imap -maildir  -gnome

===

Note that I am NOT running 64bit gentoo but 32bit gentoo on this
athlon64.

It shows architecture as athlon xp which it is not.  That is also 64
bit but from what I understand is still different than athlon64.
The xp mobos etc are cheaper, and not socket 754 I don't think.

Mine is socket 754 with K8V mobo chipset K8T800.  I'm guessing that is
where the `k8' comes from.

I've been running with above make.conf with no (noticed) problems for
about 2 mnths.  But now updating so would like to get it right.

So do you know if:
  CFLAGS=-Os -march=athlon-xp -pipe  
is wrong?

And if I wanted to run ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~XXX keeping in mind I'm not
running 64bit gentoo, what would the `XXX' be?

/proc/cpuinfo below:

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family  : 15
model   : 4
model name  : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
stepping: 8
cpu MHz : 2255.376
cache size  : 1024 KB
fdiv_bug: no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug: no
coma_bug: no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp  : yes
flags   : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov 
pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 syscall nx mmxext lm 3dnowext 3dnow
bogomips: 4516.25


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[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-embedded] LVM install fails to boot in 2006.0 with no-nptl/2.4 profile

2006-05-16 Thread Joe Harvell

Mike:

Since the problem I am having with LVM is in an initrd environment, I 
suspect the problem may be related to something magical missing in the 
minimal initrd environment.  It seems like a group that discusses 
embedded environments would have the expertise to figure out what might 
be missing from my initrd environment.


Mike Frysinger wrote:
i dont know why you e-mailed the gentoo-embedded list seeing as how none of 
what you're doing involves us

-mike
  


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Re: [gentoo-user] cause jdk1.5 emerge tomcat error!

2006-05-16 Thread wu chuanwen

2006/5/16, Uwe Klosa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

You have to emerge java 1.4 and set this to your system vm first. Thena you can 
follow the migration-overlay description.

I also had once java 1.5 as system vm. But there have been problems like that 
you're describing. the solution was to use the
migration-overlay. Now I'm able to use java 1.5 without problems.

I can't download the package  javatoolkit-0.1.8.tar.bz2 from
http://www.kerami-tek.com/~chewi/chewi-overlay/distfiles/javatoolkit-0.1.8.tar.bz2.
I just wonder if you can send it to my mailbox and it will be very
appreciated(maybe it's still in your /usr/portage/distfiles).
Thanks in advance!


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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice with KDE icons (ooo-kde)

2006-05-16 Thread Richard Fish

Yeay!  Result!  Gnome and KDE look cool.  'none' looks yukky.  So, I
guess mine picks up none, which is puzzling given my USE flags - I
mean, what's the point setting flags then?


Well the use flags just add the ability to support (and add
dependancies on) the given environment by building the plugin.  If you
check the output of ldd /usr/lib/openoffice/program/*, you will see
several libraries that depend upon KDE components.  Removing the kde
use flag would prevent those libraries from being built with
openoffice.

The choice is made at runtime whether to *use* those libraries.  As
far as I can tell (I have not checked the OOo sources), OOo decides to
use KDE based on the KDE_FULL_SESSION environment variable.  Mine is
set to 'true'.  Do you have something else?  Maybe you are not running
a the full KDE environment somehow?


How can I make OOo pick a particular desktop env permanently?  Where can I set 
it up?


The easiest would be to modify your ~/.profile and add:

export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde

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[gentoo-user] Re: Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Peter
On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:18:53 -0500, Kris Kerwin wrote:

 Hi folks,
 
 Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
 extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
 without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
 somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
 like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Kris

OR, without using mount at all!

Use mc in a terminal, highlight the file and press [Enter]. It will open
it up like a directory. Other Virtual File System managers can also do
this. Try Nautilus or the KDE file manager. In addition you can use avfs
with fuse. All without having to issue a mount command :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags for amd64 (running in 32 bit)

2006-05-16 Thread John Jolet

Harry Putnam wrote:


John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 


Harry Putnam wrote:

   


I'm running 32bit gentoo on an amd athlon64 would the architeture USE
flag still be ~x86? or something else?


 


k8
--
   



Sorry to be a pest on this, but I was unable to verify this
information on a google of  site:gentoo.org ACCEPT_KEYWORDS k8

In fact there seems to be a fair bit of confusion on this.
I suspect my /etc/make.conf is wrong in several ways.

First let me explain:  I switched computers due to my main linux box
giving up the ghost.  I grabbed an athlon64 +3400 running winxp and
pirated it for my main gentoo desktop.

I switched over lots of stuff from the salvaged HDDs to the athlon.
Not sure now what I may have edited into /etc/make.conf.  Somehow I
still got some amd stuff in it.  probably from a 'from scratch
install' using a stage.

Anyway cutting to the chase I have this in there, I added everthing
below ALSA_CARDS I think:
==
# These settings were set by the catalyst build script that automatically built 
this stage
# Please consult /etc/make.conf.example for a more detailed example
CFLAGS=-Os -march=athlon-xp -pipe
CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
ALSA_CARDS=via82xx
GENTOO_MIRRORS=ftp://ftp.ussg.iu.edu/pub/linux/gentoo 
http://gentoo.cs.lewisu.edu/gentoo/;
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86
USE=samba smb mysql symlinks kde qt dvd alsa cdr emacs 
   xinerama mbox apache2 hal logrotate objc gcj sasl 
   vmmouse wacom radeon tga vesa vga via vmware nptl 
   nptlonly -ipv6 -imap -maildir  -gnome


===

Note that I am NOT running 64bit gentoo but 32bit gentoo on this
athlon64.

It shows architecture as athlon xp which it is not.  That is also 64
bit but from what I understand is still different than athlon64.
The xp mobos etc are cheaper, and not socket 754 I don't think.

Mine is socket 754 with K8V mobo chipset K8T800.  I'm guessing that is
where the `k8' comes from.

I've been running with above make.conf with no (noticed) problems for
about 2 mnths.  But now updating so would like to get it right.

So do you know if:
 CFLAGS=-Os -march=athlon-xp -pipe  
is wrong?


And if I wanted to run ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~XXX keeping in mind I'm not
running 64bit gentoo, what would the `XXX' be?

 

maybe that was my misunderstading..on a brand-new opteron 64-bit...the 
architecture use flag i use is k8.  I see no real reason to run 32-bit 
gentoo on a 64-bit box...64-bit support in gentoo was why we switched 
distros when we switched to 64-bit servers.  my -march is k8 for those 
boxes.  again, that's with a 64-bit opteron...if you're running 
something else, you might need a different flag.  i believe, to your 
last question, it would still be i386.

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Penguin Lover Jure Varlec squawked:
  I use yakuake. It's the the best drop-down terminal I've ever used, and I 
  believe I tried almost all of them (there really aren't many). Off the top 
  of 
  my head, I recall yeahconsole and kuake. There's also tilda, but I never 
  tried it.
  
 I also looked for a drop-down term. Couldn't find one that I really
 liked, so just made a wrapper myself for aterm in fvwm using a
 borderless window, key binding for focus and shading, and EdgeCommand. 
 
 It is quite convenient. 

What do you guys mean by `drop-down'?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags for amd64 (running in 32 bit)

2006-05-16 Thread James Ausmus

maybe that was my misunderstading..on a brand-new opteron 64-bit...the
architecture use flag i use is k8.  I see no real reason to run 32-bit
gentoo on a 64-bit box...64-bit support in gentoo was why we switched
distros when we switched to 64-bit servers.  my -march is k8 for those
boxes.  again, that's with a 64-bit opteron...if you're running
something else, you might need a different flag.  i believe, to your
last question, it would still be i386.


OK, to cut short the confusion, Harry, your march setting in your
CFLAGS should be k8, and the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS should be either x86, or
~x86, depending on if you want to run stable.

HTH-

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice with KDE icons (ooo-kde)

2006-05-16 Thread Abhay Kedia
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 02:32, Philip Webb wrote:

 BTW my problem is that the menu(-bar) fonts are too large:
 does anyone else experience this  does anyone have a solution ?

Have you tried reducing scaling in view settings. You can also over-ride 
system wide font settings by using OOo default fonts.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gnome2_src_unpack: command not found

2006-05-16 Thread Jason Ausmus
 -Original Message-
 From: Jason Ausmus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 11:12 AM
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] gnome2_src_unpack: command not found
 
 Hi,
 
 I have a number of ebuilds failing on the gnome2_src_unpack command.
 Any thoughts, or what further info should I post?
 
 Thanks,
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I love YaKuake.  It's better than Kuake in that it's just Konsole on a 
 miniblinds widget.  It's superior because of its ultra-accessibility.  
 Anywhere you can just hit your key combination and *pop* there's trusty old 
 YaKuake.  It supports multiple console tabs, which is almost a total 
 necessity in my point of view.

Just a little info you might like if you are a keycombo fan.

Get xbindkeys and call any app with your own keycombos.  Its on
portage.

You'll need to start it with X in whatever way your x allows one to do
that.

One problem can be setting combos that kde or whatever wants.

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[gentoo-user] Re: USE flags for amd64 (running in 32 bit)

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
James Ausmus [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 OK, to cut short the confusion, Harry, your march setting in your
 CFLAGS should be k8, and the ACCEPT_KEYWORDS should be either x86, or
 ~x86, depending on if you want to run stable.

Thank you James.

I was beginning to wonder if those settings were involved in the glibc
problem you were helping with in another thread.

Do you mind pointing me to the source of that answer?

Also, I'm wondering if when I change the march setting to k8 in the
mindle of an update world what that might do.

It may be a good time to do it but I wonder if I need to do anything
to already compiled updates.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 16 May 2006 15:25:58 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

  I love YaKuake.  It's better than Kuake in that it's just Konsole on
  a miniblinds widget.  It's superior because of its
  ultra-accessibility. Anywhere you can just hit your key combination
  and *pop* there's trusty old YaKuake.  It supports multiple console
  tabs, which is almost a total necessity in my point of view.
 
 Just a little info you might like if you are a keycombo fan.
 
 Get xbindkeys and call any app with your own keycombos.  Its on
 portage.
 
 You'll need to start it with X in whatever way your x allows one to do
 that.
 
 One problem can be setting combos that kde or whatever wants.

If you only use KDE, you may as well define all your key bindings in
KHotkeys.

However, Yakuake is a little more than a hot key as the terminal is
always running, the hotkey only makes it appear and disappear. That's not the 
same as using a hotkey to start a new konsole instance.


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[gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Using vmware on winxp and I see gentoo is not listed as a supported OS
like Suse is.  

I'm currently running Suse from vmware for that reason.  I did try to
get gentoo running there sometime ago and don't remember what the
problems were now.

I'm wondering if anyone here is running gentoo inside vmware on winxp
and if they might coach me on that. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] evolution gnome notification applet / systray integration

2006-05-16 Thread Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila
On 01:05 Mon 15 May , Bennet Gedan wrote:
 Hello there,
 
though this is not a gnome mailing list, i'd like to ask if anyone
 knows if there is a way to integrate evolution into the gnome system
 tray and get notifications about new mails, apointments, tasks and so on
 even if the evolution window is closed. (Like it's done with gaim for
 example.) I did search on google without any helpful results.
I would be grateful for any hints.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 
 Bennet
 
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emerge -av mail-notification

That's just for new mail notification tray and summary popup ... Evolution must 
be running.

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[gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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People,

I'm working on a new portage browser, and I was looking for ideas from 
USERS, that's why I'm
posting here.

I've never found a program that would allow me to browse portage 
categories, then packages, showing
in one window description, version, etc, etc.

Thus, I'm working on one now, but I want to develop something that will 
run in console and X, too,
like suse's yast.

So, I would like to know:

1) do you prefer a console, a GUI, or both?
2) what additional functionality would you like? (mask/unmask packages, 
install/remove, emerge
command generator [much like nmapfe], etc)

If you have any idea regarding development (because of the both console 
and X-compatible
script/program), please let me know. If not, I may end up writing an API, and 
two different programs.

Sincerely,

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[gentoo-user] Can't compile OpenOffice 2.0.2-r1 with Java support

2006-05-16 Thread Xavier MOGHRABI
Hi folks,

I'd to install OpenOffice using the source package.

I have in my USE variable java set.

I'm using blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03 as the default Java Environement set by 
java-config.

When I emerge openoffice I get the hereunder error message.
I've attached the file hs_err_pid10707.log.

What should I do to prevent this error ?

Thanks for your help.

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java -classpath 
/var/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r1/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.9/build/OOO_2_0_2/solver/680/unxlngi4.pro/bin/xt.jar:/var/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r1/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.9/build/OOO_2_0_2/solver/680/unxlngi4.pro/bin/xercesImpl.jar:../../../../../../unxlngi4.pro/class/cfgimport.jar
 -Dcom.jclark.xsl.sax.parser=org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser 
com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver 
MathCommands.xcu ../../../../../../util/data_val.xsl 
../../../../../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/MathCommands.val
 
xcs=/var/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r1/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.9/build/OOO_2_0_2/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/../../../../../../registry/schema/org/openoffice/Office/UI/MathCommands.xcs
 
schemaRoot=/var/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r1/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.9/build/OOO_2_0_2/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/../../../../../../registry/schema
#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x01010101, pid=10707, tid=3084957376
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (Blackdown-1.4.2-03 mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  0x01010101
#
# An error report file with more information is saved as hs_err_pid10707.log
#
# If you would like to submit a bug report, please visit:
#   http://www.blackdown.org/cgi-bin/jdk
#
Abort
dmake:  Error code 134, while 
making 
'../../../../../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI/MathCommands.xcu'
'---* tg_merge.mk *---'

ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while 
making 
/var/tmp/portage/openoffice-2.0.2-r1/work/ooo-build-2.0.2.9/build/OOO_2_0_2/officecfg/registry/data/org/openoffice/Office/UI
make: *** [stamp/build] Error 1

!!! ERROR: app-office/openoffice-2.0.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 230, Exitcode 2
!!! Build failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, NOT this status 
message.

#
# An unexpected error has been detected by HotSpot Virtual Machine:
#
#  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0x01010101, pid=10707, tid=3084957376
#
# Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (Blackdown-1.4.2-03 mixed mode)
# Problematic frame:
# C  0x01010101
#

---  T H R E A D  ---

Current thread (0x080e2f78):  JavaThread main [_thread_in_Java, id=10707]

siginfo:si_signo=11, si_errno=0, si_code=1, si_addr=0x01010101

Registers:
EAX=0xaf9fffb0, EBX=0xaf9fffb0, ECX=0xabe1ce70, EDX=0x01010101
ESP=0xbfe68ecc, EBP=0xbfe68f00, ESI=0xaf9ef970, EDI=0xbfe68f38
EIP=0x01010101, CR2=0x01010101, EFLAGS=0x00010246

Top of Stack: (sp=0xbfe68ecc)
0xbfe68ecc:   b39e1e6b 0030  ab9550a8
0xbfe68edc:   ab955168 abe1ce70 bfe68ee4 af9ef970
0xbfe68eec:   bfe68f38 af9eff60  af9ef730
0xbfe68efc:   bfe68f2c bfe68f58 b39e1e6b 
0xbfe68f0c:   0001   
0xbfe68f1c:   002f 0030  ab9550a8
0xbfe68f2c:   abe1ce70 ab9550a8 abe14c28 ab955168
0xbfe68f3c:   bfe68f3c af9ef414 bfe68f68 af9eff60 

Instructions: (pc=0x01010101)
0x010100f1:   
[error occurred during error reporting, step 100, id 0xb]

Stack: [0xbfc7c000,0xbfe6e000),  sp=0xbfe68ecc,  free space=1971k
Native frames: (J=compiled Java code, j=interpreted, Vv=VM code, C=native code)
C  0x01010101
j  java.net.URL.init(Ljava/net/URL;Ljava/lang/String;)V+4
j  sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.checkResource(Ljava/lang/String;ZLjava/util/jar/JarEntry;)Lsun/misc/Resource;+9
j  sun.misc.URLClassPath$JarLoader.getResource(Ljava/lang/String;Z)Lsun/misc/Resource;+17
J  sun.misc.URLClassPath.getResource(Ljava/lang/String;Z)Lsun/misc/Resource;
j  java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run()Ljava/lang/Object;+26
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
V  [libjvm.so+0x1554e5]
V  [libjvm.so+0x21f244]
V  [libjvm.so+0x155337]
V  [libjvm.so+0x1bd0f1]
C  [libjava.so+0x83ce]  Java_java_security_AccessController_doPrivileged__Ljava_security_PrivilegedExceptionAction_2Ljava_security_AccessControlContext_2+0x3e
j  java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Ljava/lang/String;)Ljava/lang/Class;+13
j  java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Ljava/lang/String;Z)Ljava/lang/Class;+43
j  sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Ljava/lang/String;Z)Ljava/lang/Class;+94
j  java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Ljava/lang/String;)Ljava/lang/Class;+3
j  java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(Ljava/lang/String;)Ljava/lang/Class;+2
v  ~StubRoutines::call_stub
V  [libjvm.so+0x1554e5]
V  [libjvm.so+0x21f244]
V  [libjvm.so+0x155337]
V  [libjvm.so+0x154edd]
V  [libjvm.so+0x154fe0]
V  [libjvm.so+0x256b10]
V  [libjvm.so+0x256289]
V  [libjvm.so+0x2552cf]
V  [libjvm.so+0x2550ca]
V  [libjvm.so+0x1cbc39]
V  [libjvm.so+0x1bacc9]


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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 16 May 2006 15:25:58 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
   I love YaKuake.  It's better than Kuake in that it's just Konsole on
   a miniblinds widget.  It's superior because of its
   ultra-accessibility. Anywhere you can just hit your key combination
   and *pop* there's trusty old YaKuake.  It supports multiple console
   tabs, which is almost a total necessity in my point of view.
  
  Just a little info you might like if you are a keycombo fan.
  
  Get xbindkeys and call any app with your own keycombos.  Its on
  portage.
  
  You'll need to start it with X in whatever way your x allows one to do
  that.
  
  One problem can be setting combos that kde or whatever wants.
 
 If you only use KDE, you may as well define all your key bindings in
 KHotkeys.

Maybe you haven't noticed that KHotkeys is painfully slow to use for
more than one setting.  Or that it cannot set several dozen Keycombos
at once.  

Xbindkeys has the beauty of a text based config.  Which means one could
introduce dozens of keycombos before X even starts.  Once its running
they are in place.
 
 However, Yakuake is a little more than a hot key as the terminal is
 always running, the hotkey only makes it appear and disappear.

Oh, I see, yes different.  but really my comments were not aimed at
Yakuaka so much as at the joy of doing things with key combos.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Steven Susbauer
On Tue, 16 May 2006, Harry Putnam wrote:

 Using vmware on winxp and I see gentoo is not listed as a supported OS
 like Suse is.

 I'm currently running Suse from vmware for that reason.  I did try to
 get gentoo running there sometime ago and don't remember what the
 problems were now.

 I'm wondering if anyone here is running gentoo inside vmware on winxp
 and if they might coach me on that.



I am writing this from Gentoo running in VMware workstation on Windows
Server 2003. It works just fine, just install it like a normal install
except you need to use lspci to find what hardware vmware is showing
Gentoo, and compile accordingly. I have had problems installing the vmware
tools in Gentoo though, they will install but will not run.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Harry Putnam wrote:
 I'm wondering if anyone here is running gentoo inside vmware on winxp
 and if they might coach me on that. 

I usually set it to other linux 2.6 kernel, and done :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 18:29 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
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 People,
 
   I'm working on a new portage browser, and I was looking for ideas from 
 USERS, that's why I'm
 posting here.
 
   I've never found a program that would allow me to browse portage 
 categories, then packages, showing
 in one window description, version, etc, etc.
 
   Thus, I'm working on one now, but I want to develop something that will 
 run in console and X, too,
 like suse's yast.
 
   So, I would like to know:
 
   1) do you prefer a console, a GUI, or both?

I would prefer both.
   2) what additional functionality would you like? (mask/unmask packages, 
 install/remove, emerge
 command generator [much like nmapfe], etc)
I'd say as much as you can put in it.
 
   If you have any idea regarding development (because of the both console 
 and X-compatible
 script/program), please let me know. If not, I may end up writing an API, and 
 two different programs.
 
   Sincerely,
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OpenOffice with KDE icons (ooo-kde)

2006-05-16 Thread Mick

On 16/05/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Well the use flags just add the ability to support (and add
dependancies on) the given environment by building the plugin.  If you
check the output of ldd /usr/lib/openoffice/program/*, you will see
several libraries that depend upon KDE components.  Removing the kde
use flag would prevent those libraries from being built with
openoffice.


Yes, I've spotted at  least a couple of dozens of kde libs scrolling by.


The choice is made at runtime whether to *use* those libraries.  As
far as I can tell (I have not checked the OOo sources), OOo decides to
use KDE based on the KDE_FULL_SESSION environment variable.  Mine is
set to 'true'.  Do you have something else?  Maybe you are not running
a the full KDE environment somehow?


Where/how do you check that?  I am running fluxbox and a number of KDE
apps which I launch as and when needed.  More rarely I launch the full
KDE as a DE (BTW, are you running KDE as a DE?).  It is worth
mentioning that when I launch OOo after KDE has started it readilly
assumes the KDE icons.  However, launching it from within fluxbox with
no KDE running it assumes the none env.  This was not the case in the
past when the ooo-kde flag worked beautifully.  Now it is of course
ignored.  :-(


 How can I make OOo pick a particular desktop env permanently?  Where can I 
set it up?
The easiest would be to modify your ~/.profile and add:
export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde


Thanks I'll check that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Unpacking an ISO Image

2006-05-16 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:40:52 -0400
Peter wrote:

 On Tue, 16 May 2006 10:18:53 -0500, Kris Kerwin wrote:
 
  Hi folks,
  
  Quick question. Is there any way that one can unpack an ISO image: 
  extracting the data that is contained within it like a tarball, 
  without having to burn it to a CD? I'm sure there's an option 
  somewhere within either the mkisofs or cdrecord man pages, but I feel 
  like I'm searching for a needle in a haystack.
  
  Thanks in advance.
  
  Kris
 
 OR, without using mount at all!
 
 Use mc in a terminal, highlight the file and press [Enter]. It will open
 it up like a directory. Other Virtual File System managers can also do
 this. Try Nautilus or the KDE file manager. In addition you can use avfs
 with fuse. All without having to issue a mount command :)
 
 

I have often thought that would be useful, but in my mc it doesn't work. what 
am i missing? I know for example that if I emerge rpm it works on
rpm files. What do I need to do to make it work for iso?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ equery uses mc
[ Searching for packages matching mc... ]
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend: Left column  (U) - USE flags from make.conf  ]
[   : Right column (I) - USE flags packages was installed with ]
[ Found these USE variables for app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r14 ]
 U I
 + + gpm : Adds support for sys-libs/gpm (Console-based mouse driver)
 + + nls : unknown
 + + samba   : Adds support for SAMBA (Windows File and Printer sharing)
 + + ncurses : Adds ncurses support (console display library)
 - - X   : Adds support for X11
 - + slang   : Adds support for the slang text display library (it's like 
ncurses, but different)
 - - unicode : Adds support for Unicode
 - - 7zip: add support for 7zip archives
 - - debug   : Tells configure and the makefiles to build for debugging. 
Effects vary across packages, but generally it will at least add -g to CFLAGS. 
Remember to set FEATURES=nostrip too



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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 18:29 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
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 People,
 
   I'm working on a new portage browser, and I was looking for ideas from 
 USERS, that's why I'm
 posting here.
 
   I've never found a program that would allow me to browse portage 
 categories, then packages, showing
 in one window description, version, etc, etc.

Yes! 
 

   Thus, I'm working on one now, but I want to develop something that will 
 run in console and X, too,
 like suse's yast.
 
   So, I would like to know:
 
   1) do you prefer a console, a GUI, or both?

GUI primarily, but a console for scripting.

   2) what additional functionality would you like? (mask/unmask packages, 
 install/remove, emerge
 command generator [much like nmapfe], etc)

mask/unmask would be nice, but it's not absolutely necessary
install/remove is necessary ;-)
emerge command generator might be useful in a scripting application

 
   If you have any idea regarding development (because of the both console 
 and X-compatible
 script/program), please let me know. If not, I may end up writing an API, and 
 two different programs.

Python can handle both scripting and GUI, and of course portage is
written (mostly? completely?) in python, so I'd suggest ... python
(surprise!). I might consider jython if there is a compelling reason to
use Java.

--- Vladimir

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Palo Alto, CA 94306
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Harry Putnam wrote:
  I'm wondering if anyone here is running gentoo inside vmware on winxp
  and if they might coach me on that. 
 
 I usually set it to other linux 2.6 kernel, and done :)

Uh excuse the density of my skull but you'd usually set WHAT to WHAT?

What is `other' in this case.  And what is being set?

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Christoph Eckert
Hi,


 I'm working on a new portage browser, and I was looking for ideas
 from USERS, that's why I'm posting here.

as I'm a Desktop user, I'll speak up ;-) .

 I've never found a program that would allow me to browse
 portage categories, then packages, showing in one window description,
 version, etc, etc.

 Thus, I'm working on one now, but I want to develop something

Great to hear!

 that will run in console and X, too, like suse's yast.

 So, I would like to know:

 1) do you prefer a console, a GUI, or both?

Both would be great.

 2) what additional functionality would you like? (mask/unmask
 packages, install/remove, emerge command generator [much like
 nmapfe], etc)

There already are some projects which try to do frontends for 
configuring a Gentoo system. If you write a portage frontend then yes, 
I'd enjoy to have all settings right at my fingertips. Otherwise I'd 
better stay with 4 shells open ;-) .

 If you have any idea regarding development (because of the
 both console and X-compatible script/program), please let me know. If
 not, I may end up writing an API, and two different programs.

I'm not sure what you plan exactly, but it sounds as it was reasonable 
to keep the tool as desktop independent as possible.

What about using Qt4? You can use it for shell only programming as well 
as for GUI programming (introduced in Qt4), it is independent from KDE 
or Gnome, and it allows you to divide the data from the frontend. 
Finally, it offers a concept similar to model view controller and a 
thread save signal/slot concept.

Just my two cents,


ce

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On 16 May 2006 16:35:23 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:

  If you only use KDE, you may as well define all your key bindings in
  KHotkeys.
 
 Maybe you haven't noticed that KHotkeys is painfully slow to use for
 more than one setting.  Or that it cannot set several dozen Keycombos
 at once.

No, I hadn't noticed that. I've used xbindkeys in the past, but decided
it was better to use just one program to handle hotkeys, to avoid the
sort of conflicts you have experienced. I don't set up or change hotkeys
very often, so the slightly longer time required isn't an issue for me.

 Xbindkeys has the beauty of a text based config.  Which means one could
 introduce dozens of keycombos before X even starts.  Once its running
 they are in place.

KHotkeys uses a text config file, although it's layout is even more
arcane than that of xbindkeys.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-16 Thread Grant

snip

 I'd like it to
 behave that way as much as possible so my Gentoo router can handle as
 many of the router duties as possible.  I've disabled the Westell's
 firewall.  What other types of things should I look for in the
 Westell's configuration screen to disable?  Is there anything that
 might prevent this modem/router from behaving like a modem for all
 intents and purposes so my Gentoo router can behave like a router
 connected to a modem?

Some routers have a DMZ Port or DMZ Host option that will make the
router automatically forward all ports to the machine configured on that
port.  If you like, you can even disable things like name serving and
internal DHCP and let your Gentoo router handle those (if you followed
the Home Router guide and used dnsmasq).  If you have no Windows boxes
on your network, you can safely disable WINS and/or NetBIOS name resolution.


Are you sure I can disable internal DHCP?  My Gentoo router needs to
use DHCP to get an IP address from the Westell modem/router right?

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread b.n.


1) do you prefer a console, a GUI, or both?



GUI primarily, but a console for scripting.


I agree.


2) what additional functionality would you like? (mask/unmask packages, 
install/remove, emerge
command generator [much like nmapfe], etc)


mask/unmask would be nice, but it's not absolutely necessary
install/remove is necessary ;-)
emerge command generator might be useful in a scripting application


Everything you can think about, however I'd find most useful:
- mask/unmask
- install/remove
- list of all installed packages
- use flags for each package + description of what an use flag is doing
- dependencies for each package


If you have any idea regarding development (because of the both console 
and X-compatible
script/program), please let me know. If not, I may end up writing an API, and 
two different programs.


Python can handle both scripting and GUI, and of course portage is
written (mostly? completely?) in python, so I'd suggest ... python


I'd suggest Python too.
You can write an API and then 2 wrappers:
- a console-based ncurses one
- an X-based wxpython one (I recommend wx because it's quite easy to 
program, powerful and it works really well)


I have some Python knowledge and I did some (very elementary) thing with 
wxPython, so if you want I could help development (I guess the thing 
will be free software :D )


I personally think a Synaptic-like GUI would be the best (familiar to 
Debian/Ubuntu users;easy to use)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 02:56:46PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked:
  I also looked for a drop-down term. Couldn't find one that I really
  liked, so just made a wrapper myself for aterm in fvwm using a
  borderless window, key binding for focus and shading, and EdgeCommand. 
  
  It is quite convenient. 
 
 What do you guys mean by `drop-down'?
 

Do you play FPS? Think how in many of those games you can hit ~ to
bring down a console that convers half the screen... 

The basic idea (for me, at least) is a terminal window that is sticky
(so persists between desktops) and, normally, is shaded. It should be
able to react to a keyboard trigger so it unrolls from the top of the
screen and stays always on top and doesn't lose focus when it is
unrolled. 

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[gentoo-user] OT - Rosegarden View issue

2006-05-16 Thread Michael Sullivan
This may be a stupid question, but here goes:  In Rosegarden in the
notation editor, is it possible to view more than one measure at a time,
and if so, how do I do it?  Mine only shows me one measure at a time,
but a picture in the Rosegarden handbook showed multiple measures in the
same screen and the handbook seemed to think that this feature was on by
default, but I can't figure out how to turn it on...

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Steven Susbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I am writing this from Gentoo running in VMware workstation on Windows
 Server 2003. It works just fine, just install it like a normal install
 except you need to use lspci to find what hardware vmware is showing
 Gentoo, and compile accordingly. I have had problems installing the vmware
 tools in Gentoo though, they will install but will not run.

Well, that's encouraging... thanks.

Let me ask a few more things please.  Sorry about the verbosity level
but I'm kind of confused about how to go at this.

My vmware installs were perforumed on a laptop running a P4 3.2 gh.

That was due to being on the road at the time.  My main desktop
machine has been a gentoo box for some time now, an older p4 with a
now meager, 2ghz, but the box gave up the ghost a few weeks ago.

I commandered an athlon64 3400+ that was running winxp and being used
to crunch video transforamtions from one kind of output to another and
other intensive chores like running adobe photoshop or especially
adobe  After Effects which is really cpu and ram hungry.

I just highhandedly moved all that to 2 other winxp machines both p4
3.2ghz that also process and edit video or related graphics, and am
using it for gentoo. 

As time has worn on I'm seeing the result of using such a powerhouse
for an OS that doesn't need it.

I'm missing the ability to pass intensive (video related) tasks to the
athlon such as basic video editing while doing the effects on one of 
the other  winxp boxes all across a gigabit lan.  Or vice versa.

Linux (no judgement here) simply does not offer the applications that
can hold a candle to adobe products.

So I don't need all that horsepower for gentoo or any other linux, and
am now missing the firepower of the athlon64 for video work.

So I'm thinking I could solve this problem by reinstalling winxp and
putting gentoo in a vmware. (or getting another machine entirely, used
and cheap for linux)

I think I'm liking the first of those since it would be applicable to
any powerfull machine in any circumstance, given a powerfull machine
and lots of space.  But I recall not being able to get gentoo
installed in a vmware setup.  I don't recall why now.

I'll probably eventually follow the second course too when I run into
somethbing being sold cheaply or given away.

So cutting to the chase here:

Do you think this being an athlon64 will have a bad effect on gentoo
install or will it install as on any other machine and maybe even
allow me to use the 64bit version if I felt adventurous?

Do you think running gentoo as a main desktop as I have been when it
owned the machine, doing all mail and most web related stuff like
keeping a site up or just browsing, running most backup related stuff
with rsync etc etc will work out in a vmware setting?

Considering some rsyncing can be pretty labor intensive or compiling
something like a kernel or emacs will this just bog down other work
the athlon may be doing?

The athlon is an athlon64 3400+ at 2.2ghz (socket 754).  It is about
the equivalent of a p4 at 3.2ghz in my experience.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Jeff Rollin

 1) do you prefer a console, a GUI, or both?

I would like to suggest a GUI, ncurses (console) functionality, and
also commandline functionality (a la cfdisk/fdisk/sfdisk, but rolled
into one)

Jeff.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OpenOffice with KDE icons (ooo-kde)

2006-05-16 Thread Philip Webb
060517 Abhay Kedia wrote:
 On Tuesday 16 May 2006 02:32, Philip Webb wrote:
 BTW my problem is that the menu(-bar) fonts are too large:
 does anyone else experience this  does anyone have a solution ?
 Have you tried reducing scaling in view settings.

That ( 80 % ) reduces the menu(-bar) fonts to a normal size,
but also reduces the text in the window by the same amount (grimace).
I can then restore the window text via the box in the top toolbar ( 125 % ),
but that will be a pain, if I have to adjust it every time.

 You can also over-ride system font settings using OOo default fonts.

My system font settings are ok, there's no problem elsewhere.
Possibly, it's a bug (feature?) which has appeared in OO 2.0.2 .

Further suggestions welcome.

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[gentoo-user] Re: OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On 16 May 2006 16:35:23 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
 
   If you only use KDE, you may as well define all your key bindings in
   KHotkeys.
  
  Maybe you haven't noticed that KHotkeys is painfully slow to use for
  more than one setting.  Or that it cannot set several dozen Keycombos
  at once.

 No, I hadn't noticed that. I've used xbindkeys in the past, but decided
 it was better to use just one program to handle hotkeys, to avoid the
 sort of conflicts you have experienced. I don't set up or change hotkeys
 very often, so the slightly longer time required isn't an issue for me.

I've periodically redone lots of combos in the past.  Looking to get
it down to the most usefull and best settings so it has been handy to
edit xbindkeyrc.

 KHotkeys uses a text config file, although it's layout is even more
 arcane than that of xbindkeys.

Where is it?

I'm surprised you think xbindkeysrc is arcane, I usually have lots of
trouble understanding different kinds of edit requirements but fell
right into xbindkeysrc.

But you are right to point out that for convienience and for occassional
use KHotkeys is good, and since it is integrated into kde doesn't
suffer from conflicting combos easily.

This has wondered far from thread topic at my hand but thanks for the
usual good input inspite of my wonderings.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Bennet Gedan
Hi Arturo

On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 18:29 -0300, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman wrote:
 I've never found a program that would allow me to browse portage 
 categories, then packages, showing in one window description, 
 version, etc, etc.

you do know kuroo [1]?

It's very kde-ish, but (or because of that) does not provide any
functionality in console. It's not the tool i prefer. I used it some
time ago and i have to say it's a very ambitious project. Maybe you
could get some impressions for your own work from their website or even
help in the development of kuroo itself.

Regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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b.n. wrote:
 I'd suggest Python too.

Yep, it was definitely the way to go it seems.

 You can write an API and then 2 wrappers:
 - a console-based ncurses one
 - an X-based wxpython one (I recommend wx because it's quite easy to
 program, powerful and it works really well)

Well, this was my idea, too. Cool, we're in sync :)

 I have some Python knowledge and I did some (very elementary) thing with
 wxPython, so if you want I could help development (I guess the thing
 will be free software :D )

Of course! GNU GPL'ed et al.

 I personally think a Synaptic-like GUI would be the best (familiar to
 Debian/Ubuntu users;easy to use)

I have not touched a Debian GNU/Linux system for the last half decade, and 
taking into account I
started with gnu/linux in late 1994 that's something to say :P

Okey, if anybody has a mailing list server, contact me. And you, bn, send me an 
email. I'd love to
start this project with you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] evolution gnome notification applet / systray integration

2006-05-16 Thread Bennet Gedan
Hi Johám-Luís,

On Tue, 2006-05-16 at 23:23 +0200, Johám-Luís Miguéns Vila wrote:
 emerge -av mail-notification

Comes close to what i am searching. Thank you.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Jonathan Chocron wrote:
 QT4 is a great idea ! However, as I said, it would be great if the tool colud 
 be used in the early stage of an install. That is, if it could be used with 
 just portage and ncurses/slang emerged.

QT4 catches my attention, but as we're going to develop with python, QT4 may 
still be not that
supported. Au contrair, ncurses and wxGTK is quite supported in python.

I just want to clarify that, in the mid-term view, the tool will NOT be a 
gentoo system
configuration tool. It could, yes, and we could develop it to have enough 
modularity, but I don't
want to spend time on that aspect yet.

And now, I leave everyone for dinner. I'm an argentinian parrilla lover, and I 
have just found a new
place :) (if you can read spanish, check out http://www.buanzo.com.ar/rec/ if 
you plan on visiting
buenos aires)

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[gentoo-user] more CFLAG

2006-05-16 Thread Harry Putnam
Taking the opportunity of a major update to adjust CFLAGS in
/etc/make.conf and I found something that looks like it might be a
typo of mine.

   CFLAGS=-Os -march=athlon-xp -pipe

Does the `O' (uppercase oh) have an `s' component?

gcc man says the `O' is to set levels and I think this may be supposed
to be a 2.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Spam, spam, spam

2006-05-16 Thread Jonathan Chocron
Le Mercredi 17 Mai 2006 01:03, JimD a écrit :
 Is there a good spam filter out there?  One that is not a pain to setup
 and use?

 My current setup is postfix, procmail and bogofilter.  Maybe I haven't
 trained bogofilter enough or something.  After three weeks, I have yet
 to have one spam marked as spam.  It gets marked unsure, for which I
 have procmail stick those in a maildir folder.

 I want something easy to setup and use.  Right now I have a Spam
 maildir.  Under that folder I have mark-bad, mark-good and unsure.  I
 move email to mark-bad/mark-good as needed and have a cronjob that tells
 bogofilter to check those folders and update.

 What is really frustrating is that I keep getting the same spam in my
 inbox.  Some viagra junk.  I have told bogofilter it is spam about 10
 times in the last 2 weeks.

 So, what is a good _home user_ setup?  I don't want to use the built-in
 junk filter of Thunderbird because I get my emails over IMAP from
 different locations, so I want 1 spam solution.

 Danka for any help :-)

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I'd go with spamassassin. It is quite easy to set up, features auto-learning, 
and is very efficient (Ever since I turned it on, I haven't got a single 
spam, and I have so few false positive that I just tell it to trash the mail 
it marks as spam).

If I may suggest two things :
- Use spamassassin through its daemon (spamd), it's faster.
- You should consider dropping procmail in favour of courier-maildrop, since 
you seem to be using courier-imap. I find it more flexible and better 
integrated with the imap server. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread James Ausmus

On 16 May 2006 17:56:14 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


So cutting to the chase here:

Do you think this being an athlon64 will have a bad effect on gentoo
install or will it install as on any other machine and maybe even
allow me to use the 64bit version if I felt adventurous?


Nope - VMWare doesn't give the guest OS a hardware copy of what the
host machine is - it does software emulation of the entire computer -
BIOS, CPU, Video Card, Hard Drive (unless you go for RAW access to a
specified hard drive), sound, etc etc. IIRC the CPU it emulates is a
Pentium-III - don't remember how fast...

Hang on, hang on - just was reading the VMWare website to get the
speed - evidently in VMWare Workstation 5.5 (I assume you're talking
about using Workstation and not one of the other product lines?), they
do offer 64-bit CPU virtualization for the guest OS if your actual CPU
is on their whitelist (available in PDF at
http://www.vmware.com/pdf/processor_check.pdf ). So, I suppose, you
might just be able to do a 64 bit install on the system. Let me know
if it works. ;)



Do you think running gentoo as a main desktop as I have been when it
owned the machine, doing all mail and most web related stuff like
keeping a site up or just browsing, running most backup related stuff
with rsync etc etc will work out in a vmware setting?


It should, I didn't run into any userland issues that could be
attributed to VMWare once I had the system up and the kernel
configured/built properly to support the hardware.



Considering some rsyncing can be pretty labor intensive or compiling
something like a kernel or emacs will this just bog down other work
the athlon may be doing?


There will be a performance impact to the actual OS on the system -
it has to share hardware resources with essentially a second OS - but
not only that, it also has to do the work of virtualizing all the
hardware that the second OS is using - so you will see a (probably
quite) noticable performance impact on your host OS and the other apps
that it is running - however, how noticableit is, and whether or not
the noticability of it is determined to be too high for the other
purposes that this machine will be serving, will have to be determined
through experimentation.

HTH - now I'm going to have to go and read up on the other new
features in version 5.5, see if I stuck my foot in my mouth anywhere
else. grin

-James





The athlon is an athlon64 3400+ at 2.2ghz (socket 754).  It is about
the equivalent of a p4 at 3.2ghz in my experience.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Rosegarden View issue

2006-05-16 Thread Mark Knecht

On 5/16/06, Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This may be a stupid question, but here goes:  In Rosegarden in the
notation editor, is it possible to view more than one measure at a time,
and if so, how do I do it?  Mine only shows me one measure at a time,
but a picture in the Rosegarden handbook showed multiple measures in the
same screen and the handbook seemed to think that this feature was on by
default, but I can't figure out how to turn it on...


Michael,
  In my use of RG it has never been a problem to see more than one
measure. The only time I've seen a single measure is when the track
has only a single measure of MIDI data. Sometimes a default track will
show up this way.

  If that's the case then in track view extend the region to have
more measures and even with no data in them you should see more
measures in the notation view.

  Note that I haven't been using RG in quite awhile and it's possible
that something has changed or a bug has crept in. I suspect that Chris
and the other RG devs are still very much able to answer these
questions best on the RG-users list.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo ADSL wireless router (3 questions)

2006-05-16 Thread Ryan Tandy

Grant wrote:
Sounds good to me.  Could this be the same type of feature as the DMZ 
Port/Host:


###
Static NAT

Set Up an IP Address to be your Default NAT Destination.

Static NAT Device or specify IP Address

All unsolicited inbound traffic will be sent to the above device.
Note: Static Nat and IP Passthrough are mutually exclusive features.
###

- Grant



Perfect.  Just make sure your Gentoo router's external IP is static, not 
DHCP-assigned.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Steven Susbauer
On Tue, 16 May 2006, James Ausmus wrote:

 On 16 May 2006 17:56:14 -0500, Harry Putnam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  So cutting to the chase here:
 
  Do you think this being an athlon64 will have a bad effect on gentoo
  install or will it install as on any other machine and maybe even
  allow me to use the 64bit version if I felt adventurous?
 
 Nope - VMWare doesn't give the guest OS a hardware copy of what the
 host machine is - it does software emulation of the entire computer -
 BIOS, CPU, Video Card, Hard Drive (unless you go for RAW access to a
 specified hard drive), sound, etc etc. IIRC the CPU it emulates is a
 Pentium-III - don't remember how fast...

At least in my situation, Gentoo only sees the real cpu (/proc/cpuinfo
shows model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz blah blah). I
have built everything accordingly and used it as a 3.2ghz P4 with no
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] gentoo inside vmware on winxp

2006-05-16 Thread Steven Susbauer
Harry Putnam writes:

 Do you think this being an athlon64 will have a bad effect on gentoo
 install or will it install as on any other machine and maybe even
 allow me to use the 64bit version if I felt adventurous?

It should install as on any other machine. Install an i586 or i686 build I
would think. I'm not sure if you can use a 64 bit guest OS in a 32 bit
vmware install, that would be worth looking into or at least testing.

 Do you think running gentoo as a main desktop as I have been when it
 owned the machine, doing all mail and most web related stuff like
 keeping a site up or just browsing, running most backup related stuff
 with rsync etc etc will work out in a vmware setting?

Yes, I think that would work out quite well, even if vmware-tools won't
work for you (the only reason I thought to install it was because of a
clock sync issue).

 Considering some rsyncing can be pretty labor intensive or compiling
 something like a kernel or emacs will this just bog down other work
 the athlon may be doing?

It is usually pretty good at sharing, but doing tons of things in the
guest and host OS at once can bog down the resources. The best thing I
could say for that is take a break from the video work when you want to
update world. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] New Portage browser

2006-05-16 Thread Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
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Michael Sullivan wrote:
 I have mailman.  I'll start a mailing list for you on it if you like.
 You should be forewarned that my wife and I are moving this weekend, so
 there might be a slight disruption in service (perhaps an hour on Friday
 if the ISP doesn't screw up)...

Don't worry about it. Move in peace! Congratulations

I'll apply for a sourceforge project. However, I still take suggestions on this 
matter!

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[gentoo-user] Uninstalling portage

2006-05-16 Thread Rennie deGraaf
I am trying to build a number of minimal Gentoo images without portage
installed.  The approach I was taking was to build a master image with
all the software that I need according to the standard Gentoo
installation instructions, and then remove portage and create the
minimal images.  If I ever decide that I need to install new software or
upgrade something, I'll make the changes to the master and generate new
minimal images.

My question is, how do I correctly uninstall portage?  My main concern
is the several hundred megabytes taken up by /usr/portage,
/var/cache/edb, /var/db/pkg, /var/lib/portage and wherever else portage
stores data; I'm not really concerned with the binaries, but would
prefer to remove them as well, just to be tidy.  Will emerge -C
portage clean up everything safely, or will I have to clean up some
directories manually?

For that matter, what are all the directories used for data by portage,
that I could delete on a system that doesn't use portage?

Thanks,
Rennie deGraaf

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