Re: [gentoo-user] Merlin XU870
Am Sonntag 19 August 2007 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Sonntag 19 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Sonntag 19 August 2007 16:52:37 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Samstag 18 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Donnerstag 16 August 2007 20:28:43 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Donnerstag 16 August 2007 13:03:40 schrieben Sie: Am Mittwoch 15 August 2007 21:07:49 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Mittwoch 15 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Okay, I've found option.ko and airprime.ko. tail -f /var/log/messages still doesn't output anything. Might that be a configuration issue (syslog-ng? kernel?)? Which kernel do you use? suspend2-2.6.22-r1 I fact, this machine NEVER produced any output to /var/log/messages. It's completely empty. Its only content is the gzip-header when logrotate compresses the empty file once a week. /var/log/messages works now. (syslog-ng's sync had to be set to 1). Unfortunately, that does not solve my problem. airprime, option, usbserial and ftdi_sio are compiled as modules and loaded. Yet, I still don't get anything useful on tail -f /var/log/messages. Might it be due to the fact that I have to use an adapter (shipped with the card, works with Windows)? Just to complete the image, this is the output of umtsmon -v5 umtsmon version 0.6 . set verbosity level to 5 installing text SIGABRT handler INFO: '2.6 kernel found' INFO: 'sysfs found, mounted on /sys' USB iteration: vendorID/ProductID = 0x413c:a005 unknown USB Device '(null)' '(null)' BAD: 'no known USB device found' INFO: 'pcmcia_core kernel support (yenta) found' INFO: 'PCMCIA kernel module found - cardctl support possible' INFO: 'pcmcia browsing available' INFO: 'Detected NEC-based usb2serial PCMCIA card' INFO: 'subvendor equals vendor detected. Is there an adapter around your card?' INFO: 'Anyway, we think we can handle this one by doing direct USB analysis.' INFO: 'no serial_cs capable device found' INFO: 'No Phone Modem found' INFO: 'Nothing detected yet - let's check for usb2serial in general' BAD: 'no usbserial ports found that are linked to PCMCIA' KILLING: 'no USB2Serial found, I'm out of options now...' *** CRITICAL ERROR: Device detection not successful. *** umtsmon version 0.6 closed due to an unrecoverable program error. Do does /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 exist after inserting your Merlin - card? No, I used diff to compare the ls -l /dev output before and a after the insertion, there is no difference. If they do exist try to start umtsmon with: umtsmon --serial /dev/ttyUSB0 BTW: What color shows your Merlin card after inserting? White (initializing?), red, flashing red (no PIN) Ok. I will try my card with pcmcia - adapter tomorrow. Good morning... I just tried my Merlin Card with pcmcia adapter. Following Modules are used additional to normal usb modules: Module Size Used by option 11648 0 usbserial 36816 1 option Infos from my logfile: Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial Aug 20 08:01:35 mars USB driver usbserial lacks resume support. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registe red for generic Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic Aug 20 08:01:35 mars USB driver usbserial_generic lacks resume support. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registe red for GSM modem (1-port) Aug 20 08:01:35 mars option 6-1:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usb 6-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 20 08:01:35 mars Device driver ttyUSB0 lacks bus and class support for being resumed. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars option 6-1:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usb 6-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1 Aug 20 08:01:35 mars Device driver ttyUSB1 lacks bus and class support for being resumed. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usbcore: registered new interface driver option Aug 20 08:01:35 mars USB driver option lacks resume support. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/option.c: USB Driver for GSM modems: v0.7.1 And also devices /dev/ttyUSB[0|1] exist. So there seems to be no difference between using the express card with or without adapter. -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] SLAB or SLUB in the kernel?
Selon Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sunday 19 August 2007 01:32:27 pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Selon Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Samstag, 18. August 2007, Mick wrote: Which of the two is it suitable for a desktop? SLAB slub is still very experimental, not well tested and extremly buggy. Don't use slub except on test systems. I've been using slub since kernel 2.6.22 has been made available on an amd64 desktop. No problems. No feeling of speed increase either. By chance, are you running any ext4 partitons too? On the nntp server I mentioned, not only slub, but the partition that contains the news spool is formatted ext4. Never a problem... No, after a reiserfs3 disaster, I went back and stick to ext3. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] apache won't start due to libexpat
I've been struggling for a few hours with this... daevid ~ # /etc/init.d/apache2 start * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: /usr/sbin/apache2: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've done all the rev-dep rebuilding and all that crap, and it still doesn't seem to be working? revdep-rebuild --package-names --library libexpat.so.0 There's a ton of gnome and kde things listed, but I don't see any apache in the list. And when it's all said and done, the only thing that gets rebuilt is apr All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8 Please tell me what's wrong and how to fix it. Thanks, Daevid. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com not responding
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uh, right. I'm sorry, but after all the threads asking what happened to packages.gentoo.org and the like, I somehow thought this was another one... And that infrastructure announcement was linked from planet gentoo, this is how I got to read it (rss). I read something about that gentoo-wiki has a problem with their MySQL server. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGyVYvMmLQdC6jvocRAtonAJ9s5G4mTOSWAmHVjgTZVA+S+PAM/gCfSeK8 P4Akxmo4sZAqJ7mZG10MyaM= =swDD -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] apache won't start due to libexpat
On Monday 20 August 2007, Daevid Vincent wrote: I've been struggling for a few hours with this... daevid ~ # /etc/init.d/apache2 start * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: /usr/sbin/apache2: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've done all the rev-dep rebuilding and all that crap, and it still doesn't seem to be working? revdep-rebuild --package-names --library libexpat.so.0 There's a ton of gnome and kde things listed, but I don't see any apache in the list. And when it's all said and done, the only thing that gets rebuilt is apr All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8 Please tell me what's wrong and how to fix it. To fix this sort of problem you need to search this ML: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/187124 -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] apache won't start due to libexpat
Am Montag 20 August 2007 10:41:11 schrieb Daevid Vincent: I've been struggling for a few hours with this... daevid ~ # /etc/init.d/apache2 start * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: /usr/sbin/apache2: error while loading shared libraries: libexpat.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory I've done all the rev-dep rebuilding and all that crap, and it still doesn't seem to be working? revdep-rebuild --package-names --library libexpat.so.0 There's a ton of gnome and kde things listed, but I don't see any apache in the list. And when it's all said and done, the only thing that gets rebuilt is apr All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8 Please tell me what's wrong and how to fix it. Thanks, Daevid. Look here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/187124/focus=187215 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] CXXABI error after gcc upgrade
On Monday 20 August 2007 02:54:39 Iain Buchanan wrote: aha! so the culprit is 05compiler, but who put it there? `equery belongs` doesn't tell me anything, in fact I have a lot of files in /etc/env.d that don't belong to anything, so is it safe to delete them?... eselect-compiler (which was a broken piece of shit which caused huge amounts of bug reports) put it there. but I don't have that installed... perhaps I used to, and an old clean got rid of it, I don't remember! eselect-compiler was masked about a year ago. Unfortunately during uninstall it did a remarkably bad job at cleaning up the mess it had created. Other than the 05compiler file I've had to manually remove wrappers for gcc it had created in /usr/bin/ and libstdc++.so* which it had copied to /usr/lib/. All of those have been causing problems at differing gcc bumps (4.1.1-4.1.2 and 4.1.2-4.2.0). -- Bo Andresen signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Merlin XU870
Am Montag 20 August 2007 08:15:57 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Sonntag 19 August 2007 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Sonntag 19 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Sonntag 19 August 2007 16:52:37 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Samstag 18 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Donnerstag 16 August 2007 20:28:43 schrieb Florian Philipp: Am Donnerstag 16 August 2007 13:03:40 schrieben Sie: Am Mittwoch 15 August 2007 21:07:49 schrieb Michael Gisbers: Am Mittwoch 15 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Okay, I've found option.ko and airprime.ko. tail -f /var/log/messages still doesn't output anything. Might that be a configuration issue (syslog-ng? kernel?)? Which kernel do you use? suspend2-2.6.22-r1 I fact, this machine NEVER produced any output to /var/log/messages. It's completely empty. Its only content is the gzip-header when logrotate compresses the empty file once a week. /var/log/messages works now. (syslog-ng's sync had to be set to 1). Unfortunately, that does not solve my problem. airprime, option, usbserial and ftdi_sio are compiled as modules and loaded. Yet, I still don't get anything useful on tail -f /var/log/messages. Might it be due to the fact that I have to use an adapter (shipped with the card, works with Windows)? Just to complete the image, this is the output of umtsmon -v5 umtsmon version 0.6 . set verbosity level to 5 installing text SIGABRT handler INFO: '2.6 kernel found' INFO: 'sysfs found, mounted on /sys' USB iteration: vendorID/ProductID = 0x413c:a005 unknown USB Device '(null)' '(null)' BAD: 'no known USB device found' INFO: 'pcmcia_core kernel support (yenta) found' INFO: 'PCMCIA kernel module found - cardctl support possible' INFO: 'pcmcia browsing available' INFO: 'Detected NEC-based usb2serial PCMCIA card' INFO: 'subvendor equals vendor detected. Is there an adapter around your card?' INFO: 'Anyway, we think we can handle this one by doing direct USB analysis.' INFO: 'no serial_cs capable device found' INFO: 'No Phone Modem found' INFO: 'Nothing detected yet - let's check for usb2serial in general' BAD: 'no usbserial ports found that are linked to PCMCIA' KILLING: 'no USB2Serial found, I'm out of options now...' *** CRITICAL ERROR: Device detection not successful. *** umtsmon version 0.6 closed due to an unrecoverable program error. Do does /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 exist after inserting your Merlin - card? No, I used diff to compare the ls -l /dev output before and a after the insertion, there is no difference. If they do exist try to start umtsmon with: umtsmon --serial /dev/ttyUSB0 BTW: What color shows your Merlin card after inserting? White (initializing?), red, flashing red (no PIN) Ok. I will try my card with pcmcia - adapter tomorrow. Good morning... I just tried my Merlin Card with pcmcia adapter. Following Modules are used additional to normal usb modules: Module Size Used by option 11648 0 usbserial 36816 1 option Infos from my logfile: Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usb 6-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial Aug 20 08:01:35 mars USB driver usbserial lacks resume support. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registe red for generic Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic Aug 20 08:01:35 mars USB driver usbserial_generic lacks resume support. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial Driver core Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/usb-serial.c: USB Serial support registe red for GSM modem (1-port) Aug 20 08:01:35 mars option 6-1:1.0: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usb 6-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB0 Aug 20 08:01:35 mars Device driver ttyUSB0 lacks bus and class support for being resumed. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars option 6-1:1.1: GSM modem (1-port) converter detected Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usb 6-1: GSM modem (1-port) converter now attached to ttyUSB1 Aug 20 08:01:35 mars Device driver ttyUSB1 lacks bus and class support for being resumed. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars usbcore: registered new interface driver option Aug 20 08:01:35 mars USB driver option lacks resume support. Aug 20 08:01:35 mars drivers/usb/serial/option.c: USB Driver for GSM modems: v0.7.1 And also devices /dev/ttyUSB[0|1] exist. So there seems to be no difference between using the express card with or without adapter. Hmm ... this morning I've got the idea that maybe USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup is the
[gentoo-user] torrent issue
i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you have any ideea? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Merlin XU870
Am Montag 20 August 2007 schrieb Florian Philipp: Hmm ... this morning I've got the idea that maybe USB selective suspend/resume and wakeup is the problem but disabling it didn't change anything. At least it's not a gentoo-only problem. Knoppix didn't far any better. I'll try a second card, a second SIM card and a second laptop. In the meantime, could you please send me your kernel config? Thank you for your help! I sent you my .config by PM. -- Michael Gisbers http://www.lugor.de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
ionut cristian cucu escribió: i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you have any ideea? Have you tried revdep-rebuild or a stable version of the package? Abraham -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
On Monday 20 August 2007, ionut cristian cucu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about '[gentoo-user] torrent issue': i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you have any ideea? Check dmesg for anything related to your network (the hw specifically, but software could be at fault, too), before the crash occurs. (Even better if you sync-log it so you'll have it after the system crashes.) Assuming it's not your memory it is most likely the network card. You might want to check your memory with something other than memtest -- I know there have been some scripts posted to this list that claim to catch timing issues much better than memtest. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:15:09 +0200 Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ionut cristian cucu escribió: i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you have any ideea? Have you tried revdep-rebuild or a stable version of the package? Of what package? I tried many torrent clients, couldn't be that they all froze my system just because they're marker (~), also I've been running al my gentoos on (~arch) but i don't recall, other than nvidia driver, any progs to actualy freez my computer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
ionut cucu escribió: On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 15:15:09 +0200 Abraham Marín Pérez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ionut cristian cucu escribió: i have a strange issue with torrent clients: they freeze my computer. Sometimes i just start the legal download and my computer stops responding, other times at some point while downloading. Everything else works just fine. I did a memtest nothing came out wrong. I'm using an ~amd64 box with 2.6.21-gentoo-r3. Whether I use a C or a python client it crashes my system bad(only a hard reset works), even if X is not started a console client will freeze my computer. I used torrents before and worked fine but now, well now they don't. Do you have any ideea? Have you tried revdep-rebuild or a stable version of the package? Of what package? I tried many torrent clients, couldn't be that they all froze my system just because they're marker (~), also I've been running al my gentoos on (~arch) but i don't recall, other than nvidia driver, any progs to actualy freez my computer Well, I don't know the inner structure of torrent clients, by I guess they all could be depending on some common library. If this is the case and the version of that hypothetical library is still unstable you could have there the origin of you problem (I don't think an unstable package could freeze you box, but still it's an idea). Abraham -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mounting USB stick
070820 Mick wrote: On Sunday 19 August 2007, Philip Webb wrote: I copied a series of dirs to my USB stick as each one was done, they took successively longer to finish, tho' they were all roughly the same size. It must be something to do with the way the data is laid out on the stick. Is this the case when you sync after copying each dir to the stick? I haven't tried doing that (it wb a bit of a pain in ordinary usage): what difference might it make ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:37:27 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hm, is there a switch for analog vs. digital audio output? The screenshot only shows a few controls. Yes. Just tried to switch them but nothing changes. Hm. That would include playing with those settings: Master switch, as you can see, digital output (Playback) is enabled, digital input (Capture) is disabled: Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off] I think those two relate to input/capture only: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Monitor',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Valid',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] I'm not sure about the next two items, maybe playing with them is a good idea, too: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Analog' 'Digital' Item0: 'Digital' If alsamixer doesn't provide the according settings, you might want to use amixer sset control value, see man amixer for synopsis and examples. I really guess it's due to one of the IEC958 (i.e. digital in/out) settings. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: apache won't start due to libexpat
On 2007-08-20, Daevid Vincent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been struggling for a few hours with this... I spent much of the weekend cleaning up the breakage caused by libexpat being upgraded. On one machine running revdep-rebuild with appropriate parameters will take care of most of it, but there were a _lot_ of manual emerges that had to be done. On one machine, revdep-rebuild would find a whole bunch of xfce packages that depended on libexpat, then it would do nothing but emerge apr-utils no matter how many times I ran revdep-rebuild. There's a ton of gnome and kde things listed, but I don't see any apache in the list. And when it's all said and done, the only thing that gets rebuilt is apr Yup, I ended up just re-emerging a truckload of packages by hand. All prepared. Starting rebuild... emerge --oneshot =dev-libs/apr-util-1.2.8 Please tell me what's wrong and how to fix it. I wasn't aware that something was wrong. I thought that's just how upgrading worked... ;) -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! Are we wet yet? at visi.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs wont compile
On Sunday 19 August 2007 08:50:26 Mick wrote: On Saturday 18 August 2007, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: NO! don't mask expat! There is some reason why it got stable. expats current form is out for ages. emerge latest expat, emerge fontconfig, emerge qt and everything else broken. Do as Volker says. After you run revdep-rebuild you will eventually come up to the XML error as you described. There's a whole thread about it in this ML (search for it in Gmane). The solution is to emerge -C XML-Parser emerge -uaDv XML-Parser before you continue. If I recall you may have to do the same with gettext. HTH. I did as I was told and all is fine now, it was a marathon compile weekend, 180 packages. I didn't run into the XML error stuff, am I storing up problems for the future? Thanks Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee CASEB ECIM Departamento de Ecologia, P. Universidad Catolica de Chile, Alameda 340, Santiago. CP 6513677 CHILE [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: meiochile.matthewlee.org %%% -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hans-Werner Hilse ha scritto: Hm. That would include playing with those settings: Master switch, as you can see, digital output (Playback) is enabled, digital input (Capture) is disabled: Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off] Where do you see that? I think those two relate to input/capture only: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Monitor',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Capture Valid',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] I'm not sure about the next two items, maybe playing with them is a good idea, too: Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 Capabilities: volume volume-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Limits: 0 - 3 Mono: 3 [100%] Simple mixer control 'IEC958 Playback Source',0 Capabilities: enum Items: 'Analog' 'Digital' Item0: 'Digital' If alsamixer doesn't provide the according settings, you might want to use amixer sset control value, see man amixer for synopsis and examples. I really guess it's due to one of the IEC958 (i.e. digital in/out) settings. I am extremly confused. How should those be set? I'm not that able to parse the amixer output, probably, so let me know more deeply. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kdelibs wont compile
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 10:56:58 -0400, Matthew R. Lee wrote: I did as I was told and all is fine now, it was a marathon compile weekend, 180 packages. I didn't run into the XML error stuff, am I storing up problems for the future? No, because the revision number of XML-Parser was bumped, forcing an automatic rebuild of it. -- Neil Bothwick I married your mother because I wanted children. Imagine my disappointment when you came along. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
Hi, Due to the age of my current desktop and to the latest woes with the soundcard, I'm planning of actually putting my old and slow AMD Duron 1800 at rest. I'm not that much an hardware guy, and my requisites are pretty simple. So, that's what I want: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. - I suppose I'll have to change the fan, I'd like something as silent as possible. - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported* soundcard or a reasonably inexpensive (60$) perfectly ALSA supported soundcard. It would be wonderful if it all can stay below 200-250 Euros (or dollars). I wait the flood of suggestions! Yours, M. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
Hi, On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 17:33:49 +0200 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined cswitch cswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Capture channels: Mono Mono: Playback [on] Capture [off] Where do you see that? Last line specifies the current settings. The mixer control IEC958 (which is the digital audio standard in use in the western world) is set to on for the Playback stream direction, and to off for the Capture stream direction. If alsamixer doesn't provide the according settings, you might want to use amixer sset control value, see man amixer for synopsis and examples. I really guess it's due to one of the IEC958 (i.e. digital in/out) settings. I am extremly confused. How should those be set? I'm not that able to parse the amixer output, probably, so let me know more deeply. first try setting the control 'IEC958' to off for the Playback direction: $ amixer sset 'IEC958',0 playback off if that doesn't work out well, try the settings - 'IEC958 Playback AC97-SPSA',0 (can be set to values ranging between 0-3) - 'IEC958 Playback Source',0 (can be set to values 'Analog' or 'Digital') for those two, the option playback is optional, since according to the output you have given, those controls are only present for the playback direction. I think those controls might be in alsamixer, too, but amixer tends to be the most reliable and supportable method -- the output you have given is complete, so that I can at least tell that all the usual settings seem to be correct. I think the problem is hidden in those extended settings. I might be wrong and it might just be a bug in the driver, but somehow I doubt that -- although my doubts are not supported by any obvious hints, yet. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Hi, Due to the age of my current desktop and to the latest woes with the soundcard, I'm planning of actually putting my old and slow AMD Duron 1800 at rest. I'm not that much an hardware guy, and my requisites are pretty simple. So, that's what I want: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 - I suppose I'll have to change the fan, I'd like something as silent as possible. - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported* soundcard or a reasonably inexpensive (60$) perfectly ALSA supported soundcard. an audigy2. Cheap as dirt on ebay. It would be wonderful if it all can stay below 200-250 Euros (or dollars). I wait the flood of suggestions! 50$ mainboard, 100$cpu, 50$ 1gb ram, 20$ card. for additionally 50€ another gb ram. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL isn't slotted. What to do?
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: The issue is, I need to keep mysql 4.1.x version for my job. OTOH, say, last dev-libs/apr-util needs mysql 5.x version. The mysql package isn't slotted, and this fact is rather strange (4.0.x, 4.1.x and 5.x versions are _very_ different, and all are widely used in real servers). What to do? apr-util doesn't need Mysql unless you're doing your own db connection pool within Apache (I bet you aren't), it just has that USE flag set. echo dev-libs/apr-util -mysql /etc/portage/package.use kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported* soundcard or a reasonably inexpensive (60$) perfectly ALSA supported soundcard. It'd be good for you to explicitly state what your want from a sound card: stereo; stereo+subwoofersurround 7.1 all are possible and an advanced sound matrix vi the pc are not that much more expensive. You can even find these advanced sound chips on the mobo, if you do your research. MSI has mobos around $100 USD with gig ethernet, and 7.1 audio, combined with an amd64 processor, you'll never look back. Personally, a 5.1 or 7.1 surround setup with a small sub-woofer, makes the work area a much more pleasurable place to spend your time. Go on and treat yourself to the uplifting experience of an advance sound matrixas it is the best money you can spend, in my opinion. James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo? - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported* soundcard or a reasonably inexpensive (60$) perfectly ALSA supported soundcard. an audigy2. Cheap as dirt on ebay. OK It would be wonderful if it all can stay below 200-250 Euros (or dollars). I wait the flood of suggestions! 50$ mainboard, 100$cpu, 50$ 1gb ram, 20$ card. for additionally 50€ another gb ram. Isn't my already mounted RAM usable? My current mobo is an ASROCK k7s8xe+ m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
James ha scritto: - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported* soundcard or a reasonably inexpensive (60$) perfectly ALSA supported soundcard. It'd be good for you to explicitly state what your want from a sound card: stereo; stereo+subwoofersurround 7.1 all are possible and an advanced sound matrix vi the pc are not that much more expensive. You can even find these advanced sound chips on the mobo, if you do your research. MSI has mobos around $100 USD with gig ethernet, and 7.1 audio, combined with an amd64 processor, you'll never look back. Personally, a 5.1 or 7.1 surround setup with a small sub-woofer, makes the work area a much more pleasurable place to spend your time. Go on and treat yourself to the uplifting experience of an advance sound matrixas it is the best money you can spend, in my opinion. Well, I use to listen a lot of music, but I have no real audio setup. I use a 12-years-old Aiwa stereo for the output currently. Your suggestion makes me drool, but how much does a 5.1 setup cost? And how much space does it take? It could be best money I can spend, but my Italian Ph.D. student wage is REALLY low. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo? it really does not matter. Uli, Via, AMD, Nvidia. They are all supported. http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productListing4C.html?cat1=16cat2=329cat3=0tgid=223treeName=HARDWARELevel1=MainboardsLevel2=AMDLevel3=Sockel+AM2; from a quick check all boards on that site are supported. 50$ mainboard, 100$cpu, 50$ 1gb ram, 20$ card. for additionally 50€ another gb ram. Isn't my already mounted RAM usable? My current mobo is an ASROCK k7s8xe+ m. not really. the new am2 boards need ddr2 ram - which is already cheaper than ddr ram. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
On Montag, 20. August 2007, James wrote: On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Hi, Due to the age of my current desktop and to the latest woes with the soundcard, I'm planning of actually putting my old and slow AMD Duron 1800 at rest. I'm not that much an hardware guy, and my requisites are pretty simple. So, that's what I want: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 - I suppose I'll have to change the fan, I'd like something as silent as possible. - A matching, reasonably good mobo with a *perfectly ALSA supported* soundcard or a reasonably inexpensive (60$) perfectly ALSA supported soundcard. an audigy2. Cheap as dirt on ebay. It would be wonderful if it all can stay below 200-250 Euros (or dollars). I wait the flood of suggestions! 50$ mainboard, 100$cpu, 50$ 1gb ram, 20$ card. for additionally 50¤ another gb ram. videocard too. onboard ;) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: videocard too. onboard ;) I have an old but functional ATI Radeon 9200SE. Won't it work anymore? If there's something better, with decent 3D supported and onboard, let me know... m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo? it really does not matter. Uli, Via, AMD, Nvidia. They are all supported. http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productListing4C.html?cat1=16cat2=329cat3=0tgid=223treeName=HARDWARELevel1=MainboardsLevel2=AMDLevel3=Sockel+AM2; from a quick check all boards on that site are supported. Yes, I guessed so. But I know that sometimes there are little quirks here and there (I confusely remember something about nvidia boards...) Moreover, are there quality issues? 50$ mainboard, 100$cpu, 50$ 1gb ram, 20$ card. for additionally 50€ another gb ram. Isn't my already mounted RAM usable? My current mobo is an ASROCK k7s8xe+ m. not really. the new am2 boards need ddr2 ram - which is already cheaper than ddr ram. Oh, ok. I *really* am not an hardware guy :( m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL isn't slotted. What to do?
kashani wrote: Andrew Gaydenko wrote: The issue is, I need to keep mysql 4.1.x version for my job. OTOH, say, last dev-libs/apr-util needs mysql 5.x version. The mysql package isn't slotted, and this fact is rather strange (4.0.x, 4.1.x and 5.x versions are _very_ different, and all are widely used in real servers). What to do? apr-util doesn't need Mysql unless you're doing your own db connection pool within Apache (I bet you aren't), it just has that USE flag set. echo dev-libs/apr-util -mysql /etc/portage/package.use A bit more info after poking around on this. The DBD layer in apr-util 1.2.x can be used for Mysql auth and replaces mod_auth_mysql. That might be an issue if you're dependent on that sort of authentication. It does seem odd that vrtual-mysql5 is required for Mysql support in apr-util, but that is what is specified in the ebuild. kashani -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: On Montag, 20. August 2007, b.n. wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann ha scritto: - A dual/multi-core CPU with good virtualization capabilities (so to run everything I want under Xen, KVM, whatever...). No need for extreme performances. amd x2 Looks good. What mobo? it really does not matter. Uli, Via, AMD, Nvidia. They are all supported. http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productListing4C.html?cat1=16cat2=329cat3=0tgid=223treeName=HARDWARELevel1=MainboardsLevel2=AMDLevel3=Sockel+AM2; from a quick check all boards on that site are supported. Yes, I guessed so. But I know that sometimes there are little quirks here and there (I confusely remember something about nvidia boards...) Moreover, are there quality issues? 50$ mainboard, 100$cpu, 50$ 1gb ram, 20$ card. for additionally 50¤ another gb ram. Isn't my already mounted RAM usable? My current mobo is an ASROCK k7s8xe+ m. not really. the new am2 boards need ddr2 ram - which is already cheaper than ddr ram. Oh, ok. I *really* am not an hardware guy :( m. Usually current RAM is faster when it is time to buy a new mb. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] MySQL isn't slotted. What to do?
=== On Monday 20 August 2007, kashani wrote: === kashani wrote: ... apr-util doesn't need Mysql unless you're doing your own db connection pool within Apache (I bet you aren't), it just has that USE flag set. echo dev-libs/apr-util -mysql /etc/portage/package.use A bit more info after poking around on this. The DBD layer in apr-util 1.2.x can be used for Mysql auth and replaces mod_auth_mysql. That might be an issue if you're dependent on that sort of authentication. It does seem odd that vrtual-mysql5 is required for Mysql support in apr-util, but that is what is specified in the ebuild. kashani Thanks! - Done. I haven't apache installed at all, and apr-util package was installed as subversion's dependence-from (last one is installed without 'apache2' useflag also). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mounting USB stick
On Monday 20 August 2007, Philip Webb wrote: 070820 Mick wrote: On Sunday 19 August 2007, Philip Webb wrote: I copied a series of dirs to my USB stick as each one was done, they took successively longer to finish, tho' they were all roughly the same size. It must be something to do with the way the data is laid out on the stick. Is this the case when you sync after copying each dir to the stick? I haven't tried doing that (it wb a bit of a pain in ordinary usage): what difference might it make ? I've noticed on some CF devices IO buffering caused increasingly longer copying times. This was over an older 1.1 interface, not the faster USB2.0. I never bottomed out if this has something to do with the CF onboard controller or the PC USB controller. Small files went across fine, it was the larger 700MB+ that started splattering. Ultimately, the copying would complete, but take increasingly longer to get there. Running sync will write all cached data into the card. Anyway, just a thought to see if loading the cache with successive files causes it. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] building a box for Gentoo (update)
Those (at least) who kindly responded will remember my request for advice re the new machine I am designing to run Gentoo. After reading the replies making some Internet inquiries, I've revised my list of likely hardware to the following (prices CAD): (1) Machine (a) CPU -- Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 65 nm 2,67 GHz 4 MB : $ 235 (b) Mobo -- Asus P5K-VM DDR2 1066 MHz graphics : $ 134 (c) Memory -- Kingston DDR2 1066 MHz 2 x 512 MB dc kit : $ 132 (d) Graphics card -- none : graphics chip on mobo (e) HDD -- Seagate 320 GB 16 MB 5-yr warranty : $ 86 (f) DVD-RW -- Samsung SH-S183A/BEBN DVD-W 8x CD-W 40x: $ 35 (g) Case -- CC Radiant P4 Mid 500 W : $ 36 (2) LCD Monitor Samsung SyncMaster 931BW 19 in 1440x900 2 ms: $ 223 I plan to buy the pieces in the 2nd half of September, hopefully after a further round of price cuts (grin). My comments : (1a) The Intel CPUs do indeed look better at present than the AMDs : they seem to have as much speed, but make less heat; also, the Intel has a 4 MB L2 cache usable by either processor, whereas the AMD has 2 x 1 MB L2 caches, 1 for each processor; also, the latest Intels support 1066 memory, which is now affordable; last, Intel's PDF is dated 2007, but AMD's is 2005 looks rather old. (1bd) The mobo listed is described on the ASUS site under 'VGA' as Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 3100 integrated High-definition video processing with maximum resolution 2048 x 1536 bpp @ 75 Hz ; maximum shared memory 256 MB ; supports OpenGL 1.5, Pixel Shader 2.0 . It appears that with this mobo I don't need a separate graphics card unless I want very high-performance gaming or similar; also, it uses open-source drivers (can anyone confirm?). (1c) I'm usually using 300 - 400 / 1000 MB memory at present, so this sb enough, while giving me higher speed + certified dual-channel. (1e) Seagate does indeed have a much better warranty than WD. The extra CAD for 250 - 320 GB is proportionally much less than for 320 - 500 GB : currently, I'm happy with 40 GB (wry smile). (1f) The store I go to in downtown Toronto has had a very good record with everything I've bought since 2000 , so I'm willing to trust their in-house cheap case + PSU to start with. If it overheats, I can replace the PSU with a brand-name at that time. There seems no reason to pay for a shiny exterior, extra bays, etc. (2) My Samsung SyncMaster 550S CRT continues to give good service after being in use continually for nearly 7 years. Any further comments, suggestions or warnings are very welcome. I hope the info is useful to others planning new boxes for Gentoo. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user]About VT
Hi, Do Gentoo support Virtualization like RHEL5 if so what are the tools like kernel -xen for RHEL5 required for making Gentoo work in VT(Virtualization) mode - Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.
Re: [gentoo-user]About VT
Balaviswanathan Vaidyanathan wrote: Hi, Do Gentoo support Virtualization like RHEL5 if so what are the tools like kernel -xen for RHEL5 required for making Gentoo work in VT(Virtualization) mode Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how. http://in.rd.yahoo.com/tagline_mail_5/*http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html/ Gentoo supports Xen just fine. The kernel package is xen-sources; you can find out how to use it at the Gentoo wiki: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Xen_and_Gentoo -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-wiki.com not responding
On Mon, 2007-08-20 at 10:52 +0200, Jan Seeger wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Uh, right. I'm sorry, but after all the threads asking what happened to packages.gentoo.org and the like, I somehow thought this was another one... And that infrastructure announcement was linked from planet gentoo, this is how I got to read it (rss). I read something about that gentoo-wiki has a problem with their MySQL server. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFGyVYvMmLQdC6jvocRAtonAJ9s5G4mTOSWAmHVjgTZVA+S+PAM/gCfSeK8 P4Akxmo4sZAqJ7mZG10MyaM= =swDD -END PGP SIGNATURE- Right, well, it looks like everythings fine with both gentoo-portage.com and gentoo-wiki.com. Thank goodness! I don't know what I'd do without gentoo-wiki :P Dan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Thanks. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/21/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Yes. But all hashes are works. May be this is not actually md5? -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения на базе Linux http://greenmice.info/
[gentoo-user] cdrom and usb automounting problem..
for some reason automounting on a new gentoo install with KDE don't work.. i tried numerous forums but didnt found the right answer, even tried ivman and autofs but neither of'em don't work as i expect them too. hal-0.5.9.1-r1, dbus-1.0.2-r2, udev-114-r1 are installed and maybe trouble can be in kernel config so i meant to ask which kernel options need to be enabled to take adventage of cdrom and usb automounting? thnxx all -- purple..
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: Your suggestion makes me drool, but how much does a 5.1 setup cost? And how much space does it take? It could be best money I can spend, but my Italian Ph.D. student wage is REALLY low. Well you can find a mobo with 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 audio chips onboard, for very little extra cost. Advanced audio chips usually support downward compatibility all the way to stereo (2 speakers). Make sure the board works well with Linux, Google a while, then when you find a board, ask on the list if the chipsets are supported. Many mobo sites list all chipsets on the boards, except for the proprietary SOC chips... Speakers. Well, since you are a grad student, you can use most any speakers as long as they are not too big and they have the small analog plugs (like what is found on a cheap set of stereo pc speakers). You can solder wires from speakers you find at a garage sale or just lying around, as long as they are not too big. Stay analog on the (speaker/chip)outputs to keep the costs low. Being a phd student/candidate this is right up your alley. Most Universities I've been around have lots of old gear (small analog speakers) around. Check the EE department or volunteer your services over at another part of campus, in exchange for old gear. Lots of Music departments throw away old amplifiers and such. Make sure the old gear is impedance matched on the speakers and the speakers are impedance matched or compatible with the audio card (mobo chip) Ebay is also your friend (or the euro equivalent) hth, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/20/07, Vladimir Rusinov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/21/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. Is anyone else experiencing the same issue? Yes. But all hashes are works. May be this is not actually md5? -- Vladimir Rusinov GreenMice Solutions: IT-решения на базе Linux http://greenmice.info/ A possibility, but the point of hashing a password is that the hash will be the same each time, allowing one to compare a user submitted password to a securely stored one. -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/20/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. These are all password-recognizers, not md5 hash strings (ok, they are in part). The $1$ identifies a salt lead-in, the next part is the salt for your password (generated randomly) up to the next $, then the hash of your password + salt (to the end of the string). Given the secret salt, Grub (or anything else using this method) can combine it with the candidate password and check the hash. But since the salt is random you get a different hash every time. This behavior is desirable in case you have two or more password recognizers in the same config file (or in files accessable to the same untrusted reader). It prevents identical passwords from being detected (as you demonstrated) by reading the recognizer strings. So no, not broken, just not what you expected. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Audio system? (was: [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?)
James ha scritto: b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: Your suggestion makes me drool, but how much does a 5.1 setup cost? And how much space does it take? It could be best money I can spend, but my Italian Ph.D. student wage is REALLY low. Well you can find a mobo with 5.1, 6.1 or 7.1 audio chips onboard, for very little extra cost. Advanced audio chips usually support downward compatibility all the way to stereo (2 speakers). What of these audio chips are supported with Linux? Googling or consulting the ALSA matrix is not enough. My current card should work with ALSA intel8x0 driver, yet it always has problems. Currently it doesn't work at all. Not the first time it happens, but now I'm unable to fix it (see the other thread). Make sure the board works well with Linux, Google a while, then when you find a board, ask on the list if the chipsets are supported. Many mobo sites list all chipsets on the boards, except for the proprietary SOC chips... What SOC chips are? Speakers. Well, since you are a grad student, you can use most any speakers as long as they are not too big and they have the small analog plugs (like what is found on a cheap set of stereo pc speakers). You can solder wires from speakers you find at a garage sale or just lying around, as long as they are not too big. Stay analog on the (speaker/chip)outputs to keep the costs low. Yes, but I have no idea of how does a surround 5.1 set is made or how does it look like. What to choose etc. Being a phd student/candidate this is right up your alley. Most Universities I've been around have lots of old gear (small analog speakers) around. Check the EE department or volunteer your services over at another part of campus, in exchange for old gear. Lots of Music departments throw away old amplifiers and such. Ehm. You really have no idea of what the University in Italy looks like. There is NO thing like a campus. Nothing. Zero. University is just a bunch of buildings scattered all within the city, usually one or two for each department, where lessons take place and research is made. Most students (except a few ones having excellent grades AND poor economic conditions) are expected to live by themselves, usually by renting a room somewhere in the city. And grad students have no coverage whatsoever, apart from monthly 800 Euros, nor are hosted somewhere near the university. They're basically underpaid researchers. Sad truth. Things like a university campus etc. are just dreams for us. When we watch a movie like Animal House, we simply don't understand. The movie is fun etc. but the whole environment for us is alien. And, oh, there is NO music department. There are artistic departments covering music, but they have no equipments -just books. Make sure the old gear is impedance matched on the speakers and the speakers are impedance matched or compatible with the audio card (mobo chip) Oh, ok. That's something I didn't know about. I'll ask about how does it work... Ebay is also your friend (or the euro equivalent) Right. Thanks, m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ALSA hell : master channel permanently at zero volume, no sound
b.n. ha scritto: I think I have to try with the Portage alsa drivers. Ok, alsa-driver does not compile. Now I feel really lost. m. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub md5crypt broken
On 8/20/07, Don Jerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/20/07, Dan Cowsill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I started having problems with my boot password not too long after I changed it and I stumbled upon something altogether weird. The following is a copy of what grub is giving me for an md5 hash: -- grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$vhwK6$dV.xpYBymjq7.cZVnFZYe0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$miwK6$BKU11//PyeKMxtgiCbEeZ0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$njwK6$3KqXwDtPqGm6cBGQgSl2.0 grub md5crypt Password: Encrypted: $1$YkwK6$QCQguFhrGofbJXYnA62J91 grub -- Now, keep in mind that the word I'm typing is 'test'. No capitalization, no spaces, no nonsense. And yet the hashes md5crypt returns are all different. Now, that's no good if you ask me. These are all password-recognizers, not md5 hash strings (ok, they are in part). The $1$ identifies a salt lead-in, the next part is the salt for your password (generated randomly) up to the next $, then the hash of your password + salt (to the end of the string). Given the secret salt, Grub (or anything else using this method) can combine it with the candidate password and check the hash. But since the salt is random you get a different hash every time. This behavior is desirable in case you have two or more password recognizers in the same config file (or in files accessable to the same untrusted reader). It prevents identical passwords from being detected (as you demonstrated) by reading the recognizer strings. So no, not broken, just not what you expected. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Right, not what I expected to be sure. I would like to know how they did that, though! Thanks for enlightening me, Dan -- Dan Cowsill http://www.danthehat.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom and usb automounting problem..
--- purple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: for some reason automounting on a new gentoo install with KDE don't work.. i tried numerous forums but didnt found the right answer, even tried ivman and autofs but neither of'em don't work as i expect them too. hal-0.5.9.1-r1, dbus-1.0.2-r2, udev-114-r1 are installed and maybe trouble can be in kernel config so i meant to ask which kernel options need to be enabled to take adventage of cdrom and usb automounting? thnxx all Post your /etc/fstab. Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. http://mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Minor udev bug?
Just updated udev to 114 and it left me an einfo with the following: You still have the directory /etc/dev.d on your system. This is no longer used by udev and can be removed. However I _DO NOT_ have an /etc/dev.d. Should I file a bug report on this? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Minor udev bug?
well I'm sorry but the key you have sent is not working. I have tried to enter it in several different places and it keeps telling me that Sorry, this key has already been used. I don't know how else I can try to make this work. Thanks On 8/21/07, Anthony E. Caudel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just updated udev to 114 and it left me an einfo with the following: You still have the directory /etc/dev.d on your system. This is no longer used by udev and can be removed. However I _DO NOT_ have an /etc/dev.d. Should I file a bug report on this? -- Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. -- Benjamin Franklin -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Audio system? (was: [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?)
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: What of these audio chips are supported with Linux? Well, in general when you use lspci -v or lshw, you see the information about the main chip that is central to the device driver for that piece of hardware. For example on my ethernet, lspci reveals: 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller The 'chip is a Realtek RTL8111 If I go to www.realtek.com and look around, I can find the published data sheet to that chipset: http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1PFid=5Level= 5Conn=4ProdID=142DownTypeID=1GetDown=falseDownloads=true Then you go to the sources : /usr/src/linux and look for drivers for that chipset or by the name of the board: for example in /usr/src/linux/sound/pci I see this driver: intel8x0.c Looking at the comments in the driver: ALSA driver for Intel ICH (i8x0) chipsets This code also contains alpha support for SiS 735 chipsets provided by Mike Pieper [EMAIL PROTECTED]. We have no datasheet for SiS735, so the code is not fully functional. Now you see that the one company chooses not to publish their data on a particular chipset (this is the root of trouble for linux) *assholes* only publish their specifications to large clients Often even those clients have to sign very restrictive documents about their (Intellectual Property) so the data is not published. As much as possible, you want to search out these details, particularly related to the key interfaces/features you want of a given mobo. Googling or consulting the ALSA matrix is not enough. Google is a challenge and I learn new tricks all the time, so be patient with the net search engines What SOC chips are? The general category is System On a Chip. They can be ASICs or FPGA, or other forms of microprocessors in a package. for example, if you want to build a product, you can license and ARM core from Arm Limited or one of their partners, and go to Realtek and license and ethernet core (cores are 100% software that a hardware engineer (computer or EE) puts on an ASIC or FPGA or such and build an entire system that you do not even know what the components(cores) are that comprise the SOC. All you know is what the vendor wants you to know Yes, but I have no idea of how does a surround 5.1 set is made or how does it look like. What to choose etc. 5.1 surround is made of 4 speakers, 2 in the front, 2 in the back, a voice channel in the center front(hence the 5) and one subwoofer(hence the .1) for 5.1 surround. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surround http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surround_sound#Creating_surround_sound Ehm. You really have no idea of what the University in Italy looks like. There is NO thing like a campus. Nothing. Zero. University is just a bunch of buildings scattered all within the city, usually one or two for each department, where lessons take place and research is made. Most students (except a few ones having excellent grades AND poor economic conditions) are expected to live by themselves, usually by renting a room somewhere in the city. And grad students have no coverage whatsoever, apart from monthly 800 Euros, nor are hosted somewhere near the university. They're basically underpaid researchers. Been there done that, worked many jobs while in engineering school, not to mention fishing boats and construction jobs in the summer Builds character and instills resolve to become successful later in life Nothing like working 20 hours a day in the freezing cold handling 300 pound fish, gutting and cleaning them, to get motivated to return to school in the fall. Sad truth. Things like a university campus etc. are just dreams for us. When we watch a movie like Animal House, we simply don't understand. The movie is fun etc. but the whole environment for us is alien. Well, at least you still have some industry in Europe. Being in America, as an engineer, I do not know a single engineer that is encouraging their children into engineering here in the US. Welcome to globalization. The elites get richer and the middle class of the (industrialize world) loose their jobs Very sad here stateside. I was just talking to a mechanical engineerthe other day, he's running a hotdog stand And, oh, there is NO music department. There are artistic departments covering music, but they have no equipments -just books. Hey, come on, they do not need instruments in Italy...All of those beautiful singing voices, ripe with wine and romantic passion for any female that happens to walk by.I spent a few summers in europe on the trains and even stayed in dorm rooms in Rome... Wonderful summer, lots of young beautiful skirts to chase. be happy, find a girl and share a bottle of wine You know, I have a friend that is a Savant EE. He grew up as poor as they come here in the states. He rummaged through garbage cans to find old
Re: [gentoo-user] torrent issue
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Audio system? (was: [OT] advices about motherboard+cpu+fan(+soundcard) combo?)
b.n. brullonulla at gmail.com writes: What of these audio chips are supported with Linux? In: /usr/src/linux/sound/pci/ca0106 look at this file: ca0106_main.c snip Driver CA0106 chips. e.g. Sound Blaster Audigy LS and Live 24bit FEATURES currently supported: Front, Rear and Center/LFE. Surround40 and Surround51. Capture from MIC an LINE IN input. SPDIF digital playback of PCM stereo and AC3/DTS works. (One can use a standard mono mini-jack to one RCA plugs cable. or one can use a standard stereo mini-jack to two RCA plugs cable. Plug one of the RCA plugs into the Coax input of the external decoder/receiver.) end/snip Just munge around the kernel sources reading source files about what you are interested in. The guys that write these driver are usually very verbose about how things work or don't. hth, James -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
